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Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by MrMontella(m): 9:47pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:

You are the one who failed. If u say God must be indoctrinated into man, Who then indoctrinated the first man on earth? Who taught man to marry woman? Provide proof for your claim of indoctrination.
U failed again.
even animals ''marry'' without being taught anything...
E.g penguins!
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 9:48pm On Dec 17, 2016
randomperson:

it's scientifically impossible to live inside a live whale for three days. the methane in the stomach and the corrosion caused by digestive enzymes will kill the person... and Jonah was unscathed when he came out, Bartley was not. either way, the Jonah story was utter bollocks

Was God not involved? Must God subscribe to science?

The Question you should be asking is if its impossible for a whale to swallow a man whole
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 9:48pm On Dec 17, 2016
MrMontella:

even animals ''marry'' without being taught anything...

E.g penguins!

U are the one who weds them?
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:50pm On Dec 17, 2016
damogul:
Randomperson and dalaman i hope you are both reading

An interesting sidepoint is that Jonah says:

"Weeds were wrapped about my head
at the roots of the mountains." (2:5)

Geologist Harold L. Levin wrote:

"Eighteenth-century scientists had little knowledge of the topography of the ocean floors. They lived at a time when depth measurements were made by letting down a lead weight on the end of a rope. Not only was this method time consuming, but in the open ocean it was virtually impossible to prevent error from lateral drifting of the weight, or the ship, or both. As a result of these problems, only a limited number of soundings were made except in bays and offshore areas where such information was vital for safe navigation. Oceanographers interpreted the few measurements available as indicating that the ocean floors were monotonous flat plains. With the advent of continuous topographic profiles from echo-sounding devices, it was shown that the ocean floors are as irregular as the surface of the continents. Beneath the waves lay canyons deeper than the Grand Canyon, and mountain systems more magnificent than the Rockies."
(Levin 1981 p. 320

I don't imagine that Jonah saw the "roots of the mountains" in the Mediterranean Sea by peeking out of the mouth of the fish. Perhaps he guessed; perhaps he was "inspired". At any rate he got it right.

Brother go and sleep na wetin? Hiya!
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by MrMontella(m): 9:53pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:


U are the one who weds them?
seriously i hope you dont intend to be funny by asking me of penguin church wedding services and receptions undecided
??

Penguins ''marry'' and stay faithful..
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 9:53pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


Brother go and sleep na wetin? Hiya!

You needed credibility i am giving them to you. So read up since you refused to research but would rather shout liar liar everywhere
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by MrMontella(m): 9:54pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


First man on earth? Scientifically speaking there is nothing like that. Human anthropology has shown us that humans started worshipping natural agents of nature like the sun, the moon, mountains, rivers etc before they started worshipping spirits and later to invisible beings.

If there is anything like the first man then he invented what ever concept of God he worshipped and others after him kept inventing their own various God/Gods concept.

Sex is natural it exist in nature. If you place 20 years old a man that has never seen a woman in his life beside a Nked woman he'll get an erection. If the woman touches him he will respond. He will not have to be tought to have an erection. It will be automatic.

If all the people in the world are to be presented with the bible on their 20th birthday and told that it is the word of God for example many will just laugh and very few will accept it.
i have this feeling the worship of yahweh started with the observance of volcanic mountains...

Maybe mount sinai was volcanic or so

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Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 9:54pm On Dec 17, 2016
MrMontella:

seriously i hope you dont intend to be funny by asking me of penguin church wedding services and receptions undecided
??

Penguins ''marry'' and stay faithful..

Quiet.
The fact u put the "marry" in quote is enough for me.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:55pm On Dec 17, 2016
damogul:


You needed credibility i am giving them to you. So read up since you refused to research but would rather shout liar liar everywhere

You clearly do not know what you are posting that's why I said you should go and sleep. What am I to do with the spin of the Christian apologist you are spamming the thread with?
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:56pm On Dec 17, 2016
MrMontella:

i have this feeling the worship of yahweh started with the observance of volcanic mountains...

Maybe mount sinai was volcanic or so

grin
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by randomperson: 9:57pm On Dec 17, 2016
damogul:


Was God not involved? Must God subscribe to science?

The Question you should be asking is if its impossible for a whale to swallow a man whole
Even if it was impossible... U would say, god was involved so he enlarged the throat... U believe in impractical stories that u didn't witness, I examine stories on a scientific and factual basis...
Ergo, it was impossible for Jonah to survive for three days in a whale's belly. U should have used the god excuse and not try to prove the event scientifically because it was obviously a very bad idea
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 9:57pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


You clearly do not know what you are posting that's why I said you should go and sleep. What am I to do with the spin of the Christian apologist you are spamming the thread with?

Are you now blind that you cannot read?
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by MrMontella(m): 9:58pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:


Quiet.
The fact u put the "marry" in quote is enough for me.
must you always sound insultive?

Did you try to research it to see if im wrong??


I put it in quote because it cannot be 100% similar to human marriage...eg paying of bride price,,consent of parents and other human inputs...
Thats all..

The basics are the same for both penguins and humans..
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 10:00pm On Dec 17, 2016
randomperson:

Even if it was impossible... U would say, god was involved so he enlarged the throat... U believe in impractical stories that u didn't witness, I examine stories on a scientific and factual basis...
Ergo, it was impossible for Jonah to survive for three days in a whale's belly. U should have used the god excuse and not yet to prove the event scientifically because it was obviously a very bad idea

Oga as long as god was involved anything is possible. Enlarging the throat is the least of it all. Besides sperm whales already have enlarged throaats so what are you saying?

Science is beneath God and God does not subscribe to science...Science on the other hand is trying to understand the works of His hands.

The moment you stop trying to use science to analyze God that is when sense will hit you
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 10:02pm On Dec 17, 2016
I am done. You can both read the detailed link i gave and knock yourselves out
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 10:02pm On Dec 17, 2016
MrMontella:

must you always sound insultive?

Did you try to research it to see if im wrong??


I put it in quote because it cannot be 100% similar to human marriage...eg paying of bride price,,consent of parents and other human inputs...
Thats all..

The basics are the same for both penguins and humans..

Animals dont marry.
They may have mating partners and some try stay faithful.

Please dont because of argument, bend it to "marriage".
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by randomperson: 10:08pm On Dec 17, 2016
damogul:


Oga as long as god was involved anything is possible. Enlarging the throat is the least of it all. Besides sperm whales already have enlarged throaats so what are you saying?

Science is beneath God and God does not subscribe to science...Science on the other hand is trying to understand the works of His hands.

The moment you stop trying to use science to analyze God that is when sense will hit you
Yh... Science is beneath god. That's why
- Light was made before the sun wink
- god was scared they would build a tower to meet him in heaven smiley
- Noah packed millions of species into the boat sad
- Noah packed both carnivores and herbivores into the boat, he was disposing of their poo, and put the animals in the boat for hundreds of days even though some animals live that long
- Noah's boat was at the level of mount Everest and he could still breathe fine
Should I continue?

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Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by randomperson: 10:09pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:


Animals dont marry.
They may have mating partners and some try stay faithful.

Please dont because of argument, bend it to "marriage".
That's marriage now, except for the legal aspect of course
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 10:11pm On Dec 17, 2016
randomperson:

That's marriage now, except for the legal aspect of course

Keeping a mating partner is marriage to you.

I am not surprised.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by randomperson: 10:15pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:


Keeping a mating partner is marriage to you.

I am not surprised.
They communicate, interact, procreate and nurture offsprings... Is that not marriage?
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 10:15pm On Dec 17, 2016
randomperson:

They communicate, interact, procreate and nurture offsprings... Is that not marriage?

No
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by randomperson: 10:17pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:


No
What is marriage then?
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 10:18pm On Dec 17, 2016
randomperson:

What is marriage then?

Get a dictionary.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by MrMontella(m): 10:19pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:

Animals dont marry. They may have mating partners and some try stay faithful.
whats the essense of marriage if not the underlined?
What other basics are involved/needed? Living together... Make children? Take care of the children made together?

What else?
Penguins do all these..
Please dont because of argument, bend it to "marriage".
it is.. And it is a fact in many other animals too
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by MrMontella(m): 10:19pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:


Damogul please go and sleep I beg you. Don't yu see that this was under satire? Didn't you see the satire as the heading on the link. What is wrong with you my brother? From.fiction to satire. Please go and sleep it's past your bed time.

you sire...
Are a very funny man! gringrin
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 10:20pm On Dec 17, 2016
MrMontella:

whats the essense of marriage if not the underlined?

What other basics are involved/needed?
Living together...
Make children?
Take care of the children made together?


What else?

Penguins do all these..


it is..
And it is a fact in many other animals too

So get a girl, reproduce and put her in your house.
Then come back and tell me you are married.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by randomperson: 10:21pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:


Get a dictionary.
U no even sabi book. ... The only thing different between their marriage and ours is the legal recognition, apart from that, it's marriage... Sorry, ehn
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 10:24pm On Dec 17, 2016
randomperson:

U no even sabi book. ... The only thing different between their marriage and ours is the legal recognition, apart from that, it's marriage... Sorry, ehn

The "only thing", "apart"

Yet it's marriage.

I told u, u have reading problem. U wont heed.

because even a single "only" is enough to nullify a definition.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by MrMontella(m): 10:26pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:

So get a girl, reproduce and put her in your house. Then come back and tell me you are married.
this is the part i was talking about bro.. Parents consent and all that...

Animal laws are not up to our standards are they?
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 10:27pm On Dec 17, 2016
MrMontella:

this is the part i was talking about bro..
Parents consent and all that...


Animal laws are not up to our standards are they?


E fit not be panadol, e no fit be panadol.
I guess u have heard it before.

Case closed.
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by MrMontella(m): 10:27pm On Dec 17, 2016
dalaman:

Her name is Joan Walsh. She is a popular on air personality in the USA.
grin grin grin
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by MrMontella(m): 10:29pm On Dec 17, 2016
felixomor:

E fit not be panadol, e no fit be panadol. I guess u have heard it before.
Case closed.
your initial question revolved around the idea of what i've explained to you..
''Who taught man how to marry''
notwithstanding bro... Believe what you want

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