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Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 10:31pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
MrMontella: Thanks Stop equating sexual cohabitation with marriage. They are not the same. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by MrMontella(m): 10:39pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
felixomor: like i said... ''Animal laws are not up to ours''.... The society there accepts it... The parents may not ''formally'' give ''consent'' but they do not/are not against such relations either....i.e can be aware and not bat an eye... The penguins dont have to meet another penguin on a pulpit who says ''you may kiss your bride'' before you term it ''accepted'' Birds bathe in waters..sometimes in half clean waters...we still say those species of birds are interested about thier cleanliness..although in the human setting..it is silly... Get? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 10:44pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
MrMontella: My dear, its not marriage. If u cant call ur relationship with your cohabiting girlfriend marriage, sorry u Cant call that marriage. Sorry 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 11:03pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
The owner of www.salon.com is David Talbot and He is an atheist. No wonder he dedicated his small tabloid to disproving that true story as that would prove the Jonah tale was possible ![]() https://twitter.com/davidtalbot1/status/312016712285446145 https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Salon cc kingebuksblog felixomor randomperson dalaman Liars will have their place in Hell |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 11:07pm On Dec 17, 2016 |
damogul: Na them them. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 1:48am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: Why must you keep telling lies. He is the founder of salon.com but he has since left the media group. If liars will find their place in Hell then you'll also be there in hell because you are a liar. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 2:06am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: Shown you what? Spoken to you? Describe his voice to us. How does it sound? |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 2:19am On Dec 18, 2016 |
Dalaman you are a deceiver and a fraud who uses biased Atheist news sites to refute stories that add credence to the Jonah story. Keep up with your lies and deception |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 2:22am On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: That is his deistic idea of God that just created and left. We are talking about the Gd of theism specifically christianity since that is the God you guys are defending. Let's just make it clear. I wonder why you keep defending the deistic concept of God when you are NOT a deist. It sparks of dishonesty. The christian God wants people to know him and be in a relationship with him so having his signature in nature is another way for people to get to know him. You are NOT a deist so stop dishonestly using their God concept to defend yours that has nothing in common with theirs. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by hahn(m): 2:27am On Dec 18, 2016 |
dalaman: If Bubu the omo mummy is not careful with this his "deist stage" he will find himself in a market ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 2:28am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: Joan Walsh the editor in chief is a christian. So another lie from.you that before you work there you smust be an atheist. The story about the guy swallowed by a whale is a lie. Investigation More recently the facts have been carefully investigated by historian Edward Davis who pointed out many inconsistencies. The ship in the story is The Star of the East; a British ship by the same name existed and sailed during the time in which the incident allegedly occurred and could have been near the Falklands at the right time, but the real "Star of the East" was not a whaling vessel and its crew list did not include a "James Bartley".[1] Moreover, Mrs. John Killam, the wife of the Captain, wrote a letter stating that "there is not one word of truth in the whale story. I was with my husband all the years he was in the Star of the East. There was never a man lost overboard while my husband was in her. The sailor has told a great sea yarn." Davis suggested that the story may have been inspired by the "Gorleston whale", a 30-foot rorqual killed near Great Yarmouth shortly before in June 1891 that generated a lot of publicity. While the veracity of the story is in question, it is physically possible for a sperm whale to swallow a human whole, as they have been known to swallow giant squid whole.[8][9 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bartley 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 2:33am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: You've been running from pillar to post, including posting satirical post all because you want to give credence to mythology and fiction. You still haven't shown me the ichthyologists that told you all.the lies you spewed here earlier. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 7:12am On Dec 18, 2016 |
dalaman: Obviously you do not know that wikipedia is never an authority in these matters as they are simply a gathering of anyones ideas which your precious salon newspaper stole from and used as an authority in writing their false story debunking a true event. A Notable Naval website authenticated the story and even cited it being documented in the British Admiralty and written on the tombstone of the dead James Bartly and you do not know that anything documented in the British admiralty is fact The Admiralty was the government department [1][2] responsible for the command of the Royal Navy in the Kingdom of England, and later in Great Britain, and from 1709 [3] and until 1964 in the United Kingdom and former British Empire. Originally exercised by a single person, the Lord High Admiral, the Admiralty was, from the early 18th century onwards, almost invariably put "in commission" and exercised by the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty, who sat on the Board of Admiralty. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:52am On Dec 18, 2016 |
dalaman: Mister man even Christians say that God is not a man . Or God does not think like men . Numbers 23:19 19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? So yes , God does not resemble man in form or in mind Deists also believe that God can interact with men and have a relationship with Him and even believe God can be worshiped . So show me what kind of signature that God would leave in nature and stop this pathetic attempt to evade the question |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 7:57am On Dec 18, 2016 |
dalaman: LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE Joan Walsh Is not a Christian. She is an Agnostic Deist and has left Salon since 2015 because they frustrated her out. She has slammed her old newspaper repeatedly for that. Since she was not in favor of much of how they wrote anything they frustrated her out and she is now with THE NATION MAGAZINE, Before you can work for Salon you need to have an atheistic leaning. Link http://www.salon.com/2015/03/19/ive_had_a_really_fun_life_joan_walsh_opens_up_on_her_childhood_career_and_online_critics/ Extract Do you believe in the afterlife? Does your spirituality extend to that? I think it’s more I-don’t-know. I can’t see it all ending completely; I think I am one of those people who believes in Something Else, but I don’t know what it is— a kind of Buddhist, we-are-all-united kind of oneness that we will rejoin or become conscious of that we don’t have. I sound like a nut! You’re making me sound like a nut! As you make decisions, do you think about God? I think as I’ve gotten older I definitely still pray but I don’t think of God as directing me in a particular direction. I don’t see it that way. I think prayer is very good for self-calming and as a way of organizing your thinking about what you want. I don’t know that I think it actually creates an outcome — not to get too touchy-feely about it — but just in case… I’m a little bit of a just-in-case prayer. Stop lying for Atheism cc kingebukasblog 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:32am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: You lied and said for a person to work in salon the person must be an atheist. Joan Walsh isn't an atheist. From the link you dropped she said she believes in God and always will. " I believe in God, I definitely believe in God. I always have, I’ve never had a doubt. That’s weird, right? I think it’s psychological; that’s the way my mind and psyche formed" Where is it stated that before you work in salon.com you must be an atheis? Did you just make it up as usual? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:36am On Dec 18, 2016 |
dalaman: I suppose you do not know who an agnostic deist is and that the only difference between an atheist and an agnostic deist is on the issue of creation. You really are not so bright are you? Its either you are an atheist or you have an atheistic leaning before you can work for www.salon.com Since she said she believed in God did you not read the extract i provided free of charge from the same interview? Does that sound to you like someone who is a Christian despite "believing" in God? She believes in the God idea but not the God of Religion. You really need to wake up. Why not showw me other writers who are Christian and working for salon. Can you? |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:40am On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Read the bible and you have God acting jut like a man. He gets angry, he's jealous, he throws anger tantrums, he fights with men and kills them, he boast about killing men etc he is very emotional like a.man and does things that men do. He even wears clothing like men. So what exactly is the point that God is not a man when he acts like.men in almost every page of the bible. A God that communicates with humans as claimed does that because he wants them to know him and have a relationship with him. The bible talks about believers having signs so that unbelievers will see and believe. Why not just have those signs in nature. We have different Gods laying claim to creation. Does any of them want us to really know who truly created? We have muslims telling us that Allah created and as such we have his name written on some mountains, rocks, plants, animal body etc If you want to use nature as evidence of God then it will be senselessif you don't pointout God's signature in a nature. Remember there are different Gods all claiming to have created. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 8:43am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: You said before a person works for Salon.com the person must be an atheist. Where did you get that from? Did you just make it up the way you made the ichthyologists stuff up? Yes you did. Go to church and dash your pastor and his wife mobey and stop digging a hole for your self here. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:51am On Dec 18, 2016 |
Dalaman Glenn Greenwald who writes for salon is an ANTI-THEIST Mary Elizabeth Williams who works for salon is an atheist Amanda Marcotte who works for salon is an atheist Heather Digby Parton who works for salon is an atheist Scott Timberg who works for salon is an atheist Michele Filgate who works for salon is an atheist David Daley who is now the chief editor in salon is an atheist Should i continue? www.salon.com is known everywhere as an Atheist media Can you deny it? |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:55am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: Dalaman is one compulsive liar . His special subterfuge is to accuse you of lying then tell barefaced lies as a rebuttal . ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:57am On Dec 18, 2016 |
Andrew O'Hehir who is the Executive editor of salon is an atheist |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 8:58am On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Dont mind the liar. Using an atheist sponsored and commandeered media to refute a true occurrence simply because it would add credence to the Jonah story 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by MrMontella(m): 9:03am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul:baba this is a lie o... Agnostic deists can be evolutionists as well as believe in creation.. Agnostic deists believe in a deistic god...whose nature is unknown.. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:05am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: LILY BURANA writes for Salon.com and she's a christian. Here is he work on the site. http://www.salon.com/2016/11/19/jesus-wept-how-can-you-call-yourself-a-christian-if-you-voted-for-donald-trump/ So you have been caught lying again. You said a person must be an athiests to work on the site. I've shown you two people that are not atheist that work there. Go and dash your pastor money and stop digging a hole for your self. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 9:05am On Dec 18, 2016 |
MrMontella: Did you read her interview? Or are you also blind |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by felixomor: 9:06am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul: I have since left the guy, he has no honor. He says something, when u tell him to provide backup, he calls u liar. When u provide ur own backup, he mentions u without addressing what u have presented. And still claim he is making a point. The guy made claims on koran, bacteria, marriage, God on this thread without a single backup. Then he keeps screaming liar, liar. I doubt his mental capacity as of now. Honestly. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by MrMontella(m): 9:06am On Dec 18, 2016 |
damogul:i dont care about her interview! I only care about your wrong definition of agnostic deists! |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:13am On Dec 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Brother where I lie na? At least I didn't make up and story about any ichthyologists. Our brother here did yet am the liar? You've broken my heart with this false allegations of yours. Am sad. I won't talk to you again. ![]() ![]() Oya go church go dash your pastor money.why are you here agruing with atheist when you are supposed to be dropping money for your pastor and his wife. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by dalaman: 9:22am On Dec 18, 2016 |
felixomor: What is this one saying? How did you jump from God to bacteria? Has a bacteria ever told you anything? What about God. Do you communicate with any God? Where did the Koran claim that Jesus is the son of God or support his resurrection? The Koran clearly states that Jesus is not the son of God and he wasn't crucified. Why do you keep bringing that debunked issue up? As for marriage it's human beings that thought themselves how to.marry each other based on different traditions. That is why there are different types of marriages and different types of marriage contract ranging from monogamy, to polygamy to, polyandry to gay marriage. A question for you. How did marriage amonghumans come about? Pls answer it As for God where is the God that exist without human input? Point to it already. |
Re: Why Do Atheists Shift The Burden Of Proof? by damogul: 9:23am On Dec 18, 2016 |
dalaman: Chauncey Devega is a contributing writer to salon and he is an atheist I pity you sometimes when you make shallow arguments and lie anyhow Lily Burana Just got Saved and restored to her faith as christian. She was an Atheist originally with salon Read her write up and the caption and the bottom when you are done http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-burana-christian-progressive-20160501-story.html Caption on the bottom Lily Burana is a novelist and memoirist. She is at work on a book about her journey back to faith Extract You have to understand: I work, socialize and post in circles where the only Sunday sacrament is brunch. I move mostly in the world of “nones,” otherwise known as the “spiritual-but-not-religious. “ Many of them don’t look kindly on Christians; they don't even think they know any. So I sometimes feel I’m on the wrong side of history, and that makes me self-conscious about opening conversations about faith. But sharing posts, memes and tweets makes me feel like I might be able to, at the very least, let the nones know that Christianity isn't what they may think it is. |
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