tdayof:
Jeffrey Smith ‏@Smith_JeffreyT 2h2 hours ago
"Who the hell is ECOWAS to tell me to leave my own country?" -#Gambia's Yahya Jammeh on state TV right now.

give him what he deserve

Nok234:

give him what he deserve

Military response?

Hrmnn:
Yesterday Beegeagle's Blog Twitter account posted the following photo of NAF Panhard vehicles (AML-60s and VBLs) in a staging point. There are ERC 90s in the background, too.

The photo was posted with the comment:

"Largest assemblage of Panhard AMLs of the NA which I have seen for 25+ years. Gladdens the heart. Where are the Panhard AML 90s?

I have not spotted ONE unit of legacy hardware system (Panhard AML 90) throughout the duration of this war. Ditto the ENGESA EE9 Cascavel"

It's an interesting point. I remember seeing news photos of NAF AML-90s in action during the ECOWAS involvement with Sierra Leone but that's been a while. I've never once seen an NAF Cascavel. Perhaps they've been in storage or are simply unserviceable.

Judging by the new paint and large numbers it would seem someone dragged them out of storage and reactivated them

Something I said should be done ages ago!

Enemy using technicals? Then whip out the OG technical!!

Panhard is one of the kings of the African battle-space

tdayof:


Military response?

YES if is the only way, siriously Im very sick and tired of JUJU CRAZY leaders in Africa.

gees9:


Is this a status thing with rich ogas? Even a guy I see on Instagram that imports cars to Naija at times has a police escort/driver, so what's the deal here? And is it a prevalent thing?

the police use it to generate revenue. we have private security companies but i've never seen them carrying guns, so those who have money go for police protection instead.

the last pic gives me joy. (capture bh fvckers)

Exercise Eagle Eye


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmcE3UXV5Iw

Hrmnn:
Yesterday Beegeagle's Blog Twitter account posted the following photo of NAF Panhard vehicles (AML-60s and VBLs) in a staging point. There are ERC 90s in the background, too.

The photo was posted with the comment:

"Largest assemblage of Panhard AMLs of the NA which I have seen for 25+ years. Gladdens the heart. Where are the Panhard AML 90s?

I have not spotted ONE unit of legacy hardware system (Panhard AML 90) throughout the duration of this war. Ditto the ENGESA EE9 Cascavel"

It's an interesting point. I remember seeing news photos of NAF AML-90s in action during the ECOWAS involvement with Sierra Leone but that's been a while. I've never once seen an NAF Cascavel. Perhaps they've been in storage or are simply unserviceable.

The Israeli company Saymar has done sterling work upgrading the Kenyan AML-90s. I think they've done work on Ugandan/Rwandan ones too?
That's why it pisses me off we got rid of all our Elands and replaced them with Rooikats we can't transport in C-130. Meanwhile those Elands are still serving well with the Chadians, Moroccans, Senegalese and Gabonese.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZtU96lzhbA

Patchesagain:


Judging by the new paint and large numbers it would seem someone dragged them out of storage and reactivated them

Something I said should be done ages ago!

Enemy using technicals? Then whip out the OG technical!!

Panhard is one of the kings of the African battle-space

Meanwhile in 1990/1 Mechem came up with the MC-90 as a Eland replacement and we didn't pursue it. And in 2015 what did Panhard do? Came up with the Crab. Looking at it, it's very clear where the inspiration lies.
One could write a book on all the abandoned/incomplete projects the SA defence industry has churned out since 1990.

NTA reporters need to go and learn proper defence coverage from their colleagues at TVC, as evidenced by Oga Fynline's post.

Not singing kumbaya here, because even TVC can improve more but dem try abeg!

tdayof:

Military response?

you still dey ask.
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DaV8King:
NTA reporters need to go and learn proper defence coverage from their colleagues at TVC, as evidenced by Oga Fynline's post.

Not singing kumbaya here, because even TVC can improve more but dem try abeg!

kk brother you are trying,have given up on NTA, jst dey manage channels for now

We should still have Elands lying around SANDF depots. If you look at the nr.s exported and the nr.s produced there should be a lot left. Problem is they'd have to be brought back and upgraded with diesels etc. Denel already has a modern fire control upgrade for that turret. You'd only have to modify it for the 90mm.

A couple of squadrons would be enough, but the troops still need to be trained and new units stood up. Then there's the issue of 90mm ammo stocks. I doubt they have been replenished over the years and the Ratel 90's must have burnt through a lot. I doubt Denel would reopen production and the SANDF's ammo standards are much higher than some of the other countries operating them, so they won't buy surplus.

frumentius:


Meanwhile in 1990/1 Mechem came up with the MC-90 as a Eland replacement and we didn't pursue it. And in 2015 what did Panhard do? Came up with the Crab. Looking at it, it's very clear where the inspiration lies.
One could write a book on all the abandoned/incomplete projects the SA defence industry has churned out since 1990.

61mech:
We should still have Elands lying around SANDF depots. If you look at the nr.s exported and the nr.s produced there should be a lot left. Problem is they'd have to be brought back and upgraded with diesels etc. Denel already has a modern fire control upgrade for that turret. You'd only have to modify it for the 90mm.

A couple of squadrons would be enough, but the troops still need to be trained and new units stood up. Then there's the issue of 90mm ammo stocks. I doubt they have been replenished over the years and the Ratel 90's must have burnt through a lot. I doubt Denel would reopen production and the SANDF's ammo standards are much higher than some of the other countries operating them, so they won't buy surplus.

2 troops in Bangui would've done brilliantly. None lying around unfortunately. 235 remained in 1998 (Defence Review) and by 2010, all scrapped. Some question the 90mm gun, but in the context of technicals, more than sufficient. And yes, the ammo would present problems.

In the highly unlikely event the MC-90 were to be resurrected, what do you think of Denel's 30mm cannon?

giles14:
kk brother you are trying,have given up on NTA, jst dey manage channels for now

Same here bro. Seeing as our Defence establishment and PR organs are fixated on spreading word through NTA,it definitely needed saying tbh.

Nigerian Air Force

Nigerian navy 30mm secondary gun on NNS Centenary.

DaV8King:
NTA reporters need to go and learn proper defence coverage from their colleagues at TVC, as evidenced by Oga Fynline's post.

Not singing kumbaya here, because even TVC can improve more but dem try abeg!

TVC makes NTA reporters look like a bunch of amateurs.

Nigerian army

AMISOM

Henry240:
Nigerian army

The kind of person I want watching my 6, this guy has primary and secondary knives.

frumentius:


The Israeli company Saymar has done sterling work upgrading the Kenyan AML-90s. I think they've done work on Ugandan/Rwandan ones too?
That's why it pisses me off we got rid of all our Elands and replaced them with Rooikats we can't transport in C-130. Meanwhile those Elands are still serving well with the Chadians, Moroccans, Senegalese and Gabonese.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZtU96lzhbA

Saymar's done work on Panhard vehicles for Kenya, Burma, and (I've heard) Burundi. Possibly Lesotho as well. The current curator of the Israeli Armored Corps Museum used to be involved in the Saymar project to upgrade those AML-90s, he's a wonderful chap I had the pleasure of meeting once at the Latrun.

We didn't get rid of all our Elands and the SANDF could reactivate a full squadron if it wanted tomorrow.

Visit Tempe Base in Bloemfontein sometime, you'll see dozens of Eland-90s. They're just sitting in empty lots, being used as sign posts, or collecting rust in that athletic field to the left of the main gatehouse at the end of Furstenburg Road. I saw them when I was on the base about three years ago.

Some of the ones remaining in the SANDF's inventory still run and are used for firing off gun salutes on special occasions. I've included a few photos of these surviving cars below.

61mech:
We should still have Elands lying around SANDF depots. If you look at the nr.s exported and the nr.s produced there should be a lot left. Problem is they'd have to be brought back and upgraded with diesels etc. Denel already has a modern fire control upgrade for that turret. You'd only have to modify it for the 90mm.

A couple of squadrons would be enough, but the troops still need to be trained and new units stood up. Then there's the issue of 90mm ammo stocks. I doubt they have been replenished over the years and the Ratel 90's must have burnt through a lot. I doubt Denel would reopen production and the SANDF's ammo standards are much higher than some of the other countries operating them, so they won't buy surplus.

For what it's worth, a Belgian firm still makes the ammo for the same 90mm gun.

See here: http://www.mecar.be/content.php?langue=english&cle_menus=1156856595

Like I said, there's tons of Elands just sitting around Tempe Base. A few (mostly reserve) units also have them for parades and the like.

Hrmnn:


Saymar's done work on Panhard vehicles for Kenya, Burma, and (I've heard) Burundi. Possibly Lesotho as well. The current curator of the Israeli Armored Corps Museum used to be involved in the Saymar project to upgrade those AML-90s, he's a wonderful chap I had the pleasure of meeting once at the Latrun.

We didn't get rid of all our Elands and the SANDF could reactivate a full squadron if it wanted tomorrow.

Visit Tempe Base in Bloemfontein sometime, you'll see dozens of Eland-90s. They're just sitting in empty lots, being used as sign posts, or collecting rust in that athletic field to the left of the main gatehouse at the end of Furstenburg Road. I saw them when I was on the base about three years ago.

Some of the ones remaining in the SANDF's inventory still run and are used for firing off gun salutes on special occasions. I've included a few photos of these surviving cars below.

I know about the ceremonial Elands and the others collecting rust and on "guard duty". However, if that were the criteria, many other vehicles we could rescuscitate in a pinch.
My point is about the short-sighted decision to scrap our "light" armour capability. Hell, one year DoD even issued a press release celebrating R40million plus realised from selling noddies for scrap. The premature sale of Elands, the 707s and the Transalls still grates my carrots.

jakeporeshenko:

The kind of person I want watching my 6, this guy has primary and secondary knives.

He looks dope, i agree.

Nigerian navy ship

OFF-TOPIC

Something to have Henry spluttering in his egusi, cos he loves these vehicles so much:
Canadian Special Forces has chosen the Polaris DAGOR as their rdrv! Quoted at $150K in 2014, not exactly cheap.

kenya army

frumentius:
OFF-TOPIC

Something to have Henry spluttering in his egusi, cos he loves these vehicles so much .

this got me pretty bad

frumentius:
OFF-TOPIC

Something to have Henry spluttering in his egusi, cos he loves these vehicles so much:
Canadian Special Forces has chosen the Polaris DAGOR as their rdrv! Quoted at $150K in 2014, not exactly cheap.

Ma mehn!!!

These are my type of vehicles. You seem to know so much about us, i don't think you can handle our food though, they aren't exactly noodles!!

The Polaris vehicles at $150k are quite expensive, but it's polaris. The world's top ATV maker.

It's beautiful too. Nice vehicle.

Someone on another forum said they saw a whole parking lot full of them on a base in Bloem recently. Can't remember the details.

I never understood why they never bought the EMAK35 for the Badger. It was the original gun meant for Hoefyster. 35mm is almost double as powerful as most 30mm rounds and much more available. It could also be upgraded to 50mm supershot by just swapping the barrel

frumentius:


2 troops in Bangui would've done brilliantly. None lying around unfortunately. 235 remained in 1998 (Defence Review) and by 2010, all scrapped. Some question the 90mm gun, but in the context of technicals, more than sufficient. And yes, the ammo would present problems.

In the highly unlikely event the MC-90 were to be resurrected, what do you think of Denel's 30mm cannon?

Fynline:
Exercise Eagle Eye


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmcE3UXV5Iw

THATS NOT BEAUTIFUL ?