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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by munezo(m): 8:26am On Dec 20, 2016
If you follow this forum always, you will see that people post stop rates at the end of a bidding day. Those stop rates for the different terms (91 days, 180 days and 364 days) will be a guide for you in choosing your own rate for the next bidding day

iamoasa:
Please if I want to choose my rate by using the previous rate, do I go by the marginal rate or the true yield rate posted on the CBN website? CBN website posts marginal rates and true yield rate for each term

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Houstency(m): 9:42am On Dec 20, 2016
MrTour:
Mine is even worse off compared to yours, one of their incompetent staff debited my account for no reason and made me lose about 50K.

BUT

In the last couple of months I made N1m through their competent team's advice when all other Banks refused to advice wisely. If you look closer at what you consider evil you may discover some pretty damn good thing about it wink

They rectified it after I did what I advised you earlier, they are good at problem solving, it took about two weeks for mine to be completely resolved but I knew within 48 hours it was an incompetent person's mistake.



Thanks sir for your prompt replies. Done as you advised. Please, do you mind sharing what investment you did with them to generate such interesting interests, so we key in? Thanks plenty

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by battleaxe: 2:33pm On Dec 20, 2016
iamoasa:
Please if I want to choose my rate by using the previous rate, do I go by the marginal rate or the true yield rate posted on the CBN website? CBN website posts marginal rates and true yield rate for each term


Just to make it clear for you, you use the marginal rate not the yield when quoting your rates for TB.

As the interest is upfront, the true yield gives you a correct rate indication factoring in the fact that the interest was paid ahead of time; such that for example you could reinvest same if you wanted.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by olujaidi: 3:33pm On Dec 20, 2016
battleaxe:


Just to make it clear for you, you use the marginal rate not the yield when quoting your rates for TB.

As the interest is upfront, the true yield gives you a correct rate indication factoring in the fact that the interest was paid ahead of time; such that, for example, you could reinvest same if you wanted.

Not quite correct. True yield is as a result of the fact that TBs are purchased at a discount. e.g. if you invest 1m @ 10% for a year, your interest would be 100k. The true yield on this would be 11.11% (100k/900k*364/364). Thus, the bank will debit you 900k leaving the 100k in your account or debit you the 1m and later credit you with 100k (net 900k).

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by awesomeJ(m): 8:06pm On Dec 20, 2016
^^so, what's wrong in the post you quoted?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Mpeace(m): 9:46pm On Dec 20, 2016
I heard that the last auction was under subscribed. It means the next would be higher o.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Ibukun003(m): 10:03pm On Dec 20, 2016
Please when is the next bidding
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by manlikegb: 12:26am On Dec 21, 2016
MrTour:
Mine is even worse off compared to yours, one of their incompetent staff debited my account for no reason and made me lose about 50K.

BUT

In the last couple of months I made N1m through their competent team's advice when all other Banks refused to advice wisely. If you look closer at what you consider evil you may discover some pretty damn good thing about it wink

They rectified it after I did what I advised you earlier, they are good at problem solving, it took about two weeks for mine to be completely resolved but I knew within 48 hours it was an incompetent person's mistake.



@MrTour, could you please share an idea of what this team advice is? Information is KEY. Help me(us) grow too. Incase its not ok to divulge on here and to not deviate from the original thread, you can PM me. Thanks and God bless.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by victor54: 6:16am On Dec 21, 2016
Pls when is the next auction taking place
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Kentrasso(f): 3:28pm On Dec 21, 2016
I was expecting the transaction to occur today. Can I ask them at the bank? I'm at UBA now
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by samkay12(m): 6:28pm On Dec 21, 2016
Anyone know if any TB auction happened today? Or when the next auction will be?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by yak(m): 8:04pm On Dec 21, 2016
hello house, what is the minimum one can invest in TB because I heard 100k and others say 1m
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by victor54: 8:22pm On Dec 21, 2016
Kentrasso:
I was expecting the transaction to occur today. Can I ask them at the bank? I'm at UBA now
How far, did u ask them?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by victor54: 5:55am On Dec 22, 2016
I seriously doubt if there was any auction yesterday, I made my request on 20th and haven't been debited.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Mfunkynation(m): 7:56am On Dec 22, 2016
Which bank? @ what rate?
victor54:
I seriously doubt if there was any auction yesterday, I made my request on 20th and haven't been debited.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by victor54: 9:11am On Dec 22, 2016
Mfunkynation:
Which bank? @ what rate?
GTB @ 13.8 for 91days
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Mfunkynation(m): 9:55am On Dec 22, 2016
Pls hope gtb allow some1 to place his own bid rate?
victor54:

GTB @ 13.8 for 91days
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by victor54: 9:59am On Dec 22, 2016
Mfunkynation:
Pls hope gtb allow some1 to place his own bid rate?
Yes sir
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by victor54: 10:01am On Dec 22, 2016
I actually used my own rate which is slightly above theirs. But I dnt knw what CBN finally used.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Kentrasso(f): 1:38pm On Dec 22, 2016
victor54:

How far, did u ask them?

I did. They said they would check but nothing yet. My account was not debited
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Kentrasso(f): 1:42pm On Dec 22, 2016
If there was no auction yesterday does this mean they would take the money for the next one? I specified auction for the 21st December for 364 days at 18.5%
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Mfunkynation(m): 2:05pm On Dec 22, 2016
Pls which bank?
Kentrasso:
If there was no auction yesterday does this mean they would take the money for the next one? I specified auction for the 21st December for 364 days at 18.5%
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by X21: 2:53pm On Dec 22, 2016
Auction Date Security Type Tenor Auction No. Auction Week Maturity Date Succesful Bid Rate
12/21/2016 NTB 91 21-12-2016 - 91 Day Primary Market 4th Week 3/23/2017 13.0000 - 14.0000
12/21/2016 NTB 182 21-12-2016 - 182 Day Primary Market 4th Week 6/22/2017 16.0000 - 17.5000
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by X21: 2:55pm On Dec 22, 2016
Kentrasso:
If there was no auction yesterday does this mean they would take the money for the next one? I specified auction for the 21st December for 364 days at 18.5%


364 days was not offered for sale yesterday
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Kentrasso(f): 3:20pm On Dec 22, 2016
X21:



364 days was not offered for sale yesterday

So would it be taken at the next auction or what exactly should I do?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by X21: 3:44pm On Dec 22, 2016
Kentrasso:


So would it be taken at the next auction or what exactly should I do?


talk to your bank. I have not had similar experience
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by PETERiCHY(m): 5:10pm On Dec 22, 2016
X21:



have fidelity debited you. yet to get any alert from them on 91 days order placed below 13.99% rate

After 2 unsuccessful bids Fidelity finally debited my account today based Dec 14th primary auction at my own discount of rate of 18.65% on 365% Tenor.

They even left the yield in my acct, Honestly I felt like someone that robbed CBN grin

Glory be to God almighty. cheesy

*ThE OcToPuS*

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by X21: 5:13pm On Dec 22, 2016
PETERiCHY:


After 2 unsuccessful bids Fidelity finally debited my account today based Dec 14th primary auction at my own discount of rate of 18.65% on 365% Tenor.

They even left the yield in my acct, Honestly I felt like someone that robbed CBN grin

Glory be to God almighty. cheesy

*ThE OcToPuS*



congratulations
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Kentrasso(f): 5:53pm On Dec 22, 2016
Mfunkynation:
Pls which bank?

UBA
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Winneygirl(f): 7:22pm On Dec 22, 2016
Kentrasso:


So would it be taken at the next auction or what exactly should I do?

I don't know how UBA works, but in my experience, when a bid is unsuccessful, you'd be informed and then advised of what is obtainable at d secondary market.
If you would not want your money lying fallow till the next date, you might choose to go that way.

However, I don't think the bank will save your request, and automatically take it to the next auction.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Mfunkynation(m): 8:42am On Dec 29, 2016
Pls what are first bank rate for 91 days,182 days n 364 days? Who has bid any tenor wit them b4? Help
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by BizErikah: 8:58am On Dec 29, 2016
So i just submitted to keystone bank for tbills.
91 days at 13.99% 1.5m.
But I'm nervous d next auction rate might be lower than 13.99

What do you guys suggest? ?
This is my first time investing.

The last rate for 21 dec was 14% stop rate

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