bykebyke:

Since we are looking at the grand scheme of things and legacy.

Xavi,Iniesta>Cristina.

Legacy wise o,Talent wise o.

thats an insult to xavi and iniesta

why not compare ronaldo with Pedro and david Villa

even though Pedro and Villa were/are still more rellivant to their teams play than Ronaldo

Goldeno:
thats an insult to xavi and iniesta

why not compare ronaldo with Pedro and david Villa

even though Pedro and Villa were/are still more rellivant to their teams play than Ronaldo

Cristiano Ronaldo earned 745 points from the votes, more than the combined points of Messi (316) and Griezmann (198)



Cc:Nihilist

bigkesh:
Cristiano Ronaldo earned 745 points from the votes, more than the combined points of Messi (316) and Griezmann (198)



Cc:Nihilist

Oh wow...

Ronaldo (745) is twice the player Messi(316) is


NB- 316 ×2=632

Best player ever in Portugal like saying someone is near ever Czech player

raumdeuter:
Best player ever in Portugal like saying someone is near ever Czech player

Name one Czech player with a balon d'or

Messi needs to win UCL outside Barcelona to stake a claim. Ronaldo has won it with different clubs and leagues.

Ronaldo is not better than Messi,not in this life time and definitely definitely not the next.

codeb:
Messi needs to win UCL outside Barcelona to stake a claim. Ronaldo has won it with different clubs and leagues.

messi doesn't need to prove himseft to the likes of you

codeb:
Messi needs to win UCL outside Barcelona to stake a claim. Ronaldo has won it with different clubs and leagues.

Shoro niyen?


That Maldini chose to play only for Milan means he's not great?
That Francesco Totti chose to only play for Roma means he's not great?
Or Carlos Puyol's decision to retire at Barça means he doesn't stake a claim?

Just hear yourself

Nihilist:


Name one Czech player with a balon d'or

Pavel Nedved


I said his sense was paining him he thought i was joking

raumdeuter:


EPL more prestigios nikan ni? Why not more indegenous
The same EPL wey Leicester dey win, Wey Man city dey win and still flogged black and blue for EUrope

Read my original post again. The prestige is about the cash prize and not about the winner or how the winner performs in Europe.

And, please don't even talk about Leicester not being good enough. They were one of the finest teams in the group phase and had more points than big guns like Bayern, Real Madrid and PSG.

Debroslink:


You called a player who played 37 out of 38 League games in 2004/2005 title winning season a peripheral figure?

2005/2006, he played 33 matches out of 38

2006/2007, he played 37 matches out of 38

You no know ball

Shekpe FC fan spotted.

Hahahahahah joker. I see you've done some Google work there. Nice one!

However, I can tell you for free that, over 70% of those appearances were from the bench and most times he came on, Ronaldinho and company would have raped the opponent already. Little wonder why he didn't start Barca's first UCL final appearance in over a decade in 2006 against Arsenal.

Trust me bro, he was way down the order then. Everyone knows this except you.

barackodam:



Shoro niyen?


That Maldini chose to play only for Milan means he's not great?
That Francesco Totti chose to only play for Roma means he's not great?
Or Carlos Puyol's decision to retire at Barça means he doesn't stake a claim?

Just hear yourself

Messi can't win anything outside Barcelona. He has had 4 chances and blown all.

Ororo stays slaying from EPL, to UCL, to Euros. 3 teams and still a winner. Messi without support from iniesta, xavi, Neymar and Suarez has not achieved anything tangible.

onuwaje:

Pavel Nedved


I said his sense was paining him he thought i was joking

Why are you getting yourself so worked up?

Messi can't win anything outside Barcelona. He has had 4 chances and blown all.

Ororo stays slaying from EPL, to UCL, to Euros. 3 teams and still a winner. Messi without support from iniesta, xavi, Neymar and Suarez has not achieved anything tangible.[/quote]c troll

ElDeeVee:



Hahahahahah joker. I see you've done some Google work there. Nice one!

However, I can tell you for free that, over 70% of those appearances were from the bench and most times he came on, Ronaldinho and company would have raped the opponent already. Little wonder why he didn't start Barca's first UCL final appearance in over a decade in 2006 against Arsenal.

Trust me bro, he was way down the order then. Everyone knows this except you.

So having 28 starts in 37 League appearances equals 70% bench warming according to your analysis

In addition, we all know that his coming on against Arsenal changed the game to Barcelona's favour.


Like I stated previously, trying to pitch Lampard with Iniesta is like using straw to drink Atlantic Ocean.

onuwaje:

Pavel Nedved


I said his sense was paining him he thought i was joking

lmao... sometimes they just rush to write, they don't think

10d0ve:
lmao... sometimes they just rush to write, they don't think

Actually, your guy is the one that doesn't think. Balon Do'r in 2003 was the European Player of the Year not WPOTY. Balon D'or in popular usage refers to WPOTY of the year which was the case until the split this year.

Nihilist:


Messi can't win anything outside Barcelona. He has had 4 chances and blown all.

Ororo stays slaying from EPL, to UCL, to Euros. 3 teams and still a winner. Messi without support from iniesta, xavi, Neymar and Suarez has not achieved anything tangible.

I don't get it why you guys keep attributing Messi's success to others, but never attribute cr7's to any, like he's an 11/1

barackodam:



I don't get it why you guys keep attributing Messi's success to others, but never attribute cr7's to any, like he's an 11/1

3 different title winning teams have Ororo in common.

Messi outside Barca can't win a pin.

These are just facts.

The debate surrounding Messi and Ororo is different to the debate around any other player.

Afterall, Fernando Torres has won the WC, Euros, UCL, Europa league and so on, and Pedro has won every major competition there is in the game, but nobody is bringing them into the conversation.

Ororo and Messi are the two greatest players of the modern age, so every single aspect of their career has to be dissected to establish who is the better player.

Nihilist trying to weaken us before January 11th so we would be too mentally exhausted to type anything.

bykebyke:
Nihilist trying to weaken us before January 11th so we would be too mentally exhausted to type anything.

Nihilist:


Actually, your guy is the one that doesn't think. Balon Do'r in 2003 was the European Player of the Year not WPOTY. Balon D'or in popular usage refers to WPOTY of the year which was the case until the split this year.

you asked if any czech player has won "balloon d'or" you didn't lay emphasis on wpoty...which everyone knows was a different award b4 their marriage n eventual separation now...Owen is a winner , sheva n Nedved too...

Playing with Scholes, giggs, Tevez, Rooney, ozil, Di Maria, modric, kaka, Kroos, James, bale, van nistelroy, n a lot more great players, Ronaldo has played alongside wc players everywhere he's been to...Teammates is a very lame excuse ...so y'all can narrow ur arguments to make more sense

10d0ve:
you asked if any czech player has won "balloon d'or" you didn't lay emphasis on wpoty...which everyone knows was a different award b4 their marriage n eventual separation now...Owen is a winner , sheva n Nedved too...

Your guy clearly does not know as you can see here:

onuwaje:
Guys i am not understanding

Which one is balon dor
Which one is FIFA player of the year?

Have they gone back to their okd ways?!!

Cc airmark dmcdad

The team Ronaldo played with at United is the best English side in the past 16 years. He moved to Real, The greatest club on earth...I think it's him whose been served on a platter

Nihilist:


Your guy clearly does not know as you can see here:

He was only asking that question to verify if the ve separated the awards once more....it seems you are even to tell us No Brazilian has won wpoty just to win an argument for Cris...it's absolutely uncalled for

10d0ve:
He was only asking that question to verify if the ve separated the awards once more....it seems you are even to tell us No Brazilian has won wpoty just to win an argument for Cris...it's absolutely uncalled for

When you say Messi has won 5 Balon D'ors, its because he won WPOTY + 4 Fifa Balon D'ors. Stop being pedantic.

Nihilist:


When you say Messi has won 5 Balon D'ors, its because he won WPOTY + 4 Fifa Balon D'ors. Stop being pedantic.

stop making gaffes oga. Who originally owned the name balloon d'or?

Up Barka movement on the defensive ! ! !


Good job sir Nihilist!


Ororo>>>>>>>Midget

Only world cup remain to crown him the legend of a thousand years to come!