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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Idyllic: 10:13pm On Dec 22, 2016
The mistake is with the summation of her O'level result. From what the distinguished Prof. posted above. The summation of her O'level result should be 50/64 not 44/64. Therefore her O'level score should be 78.1%. Since her JAMB is 320/400. That is 40/50=80%. 78.1+80/2=79.05%. Which is above the merit cut off. She should be on merit list sir.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Drdonzeez(m): 10:13pm On Dec 22, 2016
Kendzyma:
This is coming from a nairalander with d Monika Adesegunfat


My name is Adesegun Fatusi, and I am the Provost of the College of Health Sciences, OAU, Ile-Ife. The case of the Aror Oghenerukewve has just been brought to my notice. To throw more light on her case, I will present the detaild fact here.

With a score of 320, her mark from UTME amounts to 80% (i.e. 320/400 x 100)
Her school cert results are: English A1 (=8 marks); Biology C4 (=5 marks); Chemistry B3 (=6 marks); Maths B3 (=6 marks); Physics C4 (=5 marks); Physics C4 (=5 marks); Further Maths B2 (=7marks), and Civic Educ A1 (=8 marks). That gives her 45 points, or 70.3% (i.e. 44/64x100)

So her overall average - as OAU did a combination of 50% mark from JAMB and 50% mark from School Cert - is: (80+70.3)=75.15% (which we rounded up to 75.2%).

With that mark, she ranks number 103 on the list of the students who took Medicine as first Choice.

The total admission quota for Medicine in OAU is 100, and that includes UTME and Direct Entry).

Clearly although Aror did well, her mark was NOT good enough to earn her admission on merit to read Medicine in Ife. Her mark of 75.2% is clearly below our cut-off mark (which was initially 78%, but we later reduced to 77.7%). Between her mark of 75.2% and 77.7%, by the way, there were 56 other candidates who scored higher than her but did not make the cut-off. For example, two people had 77.6%, two other people had 77.5%, four people had 77.4% etc.
Having presented the detailed facts about Aror's case, let me also help the many young Nigerians who may be accessing this site with more information on admission as I see a lot of misrepresentation, falsehood, and misunderstanding from the comments that various people had made on this case.

1. Admission into Nigerian Universities are considered on three grounds based on the nationally specified criteria (which I think ought to be reviewed now, by the way):
A. Merit =45% (This covers all candidates from the country - and it is automatic admission once you meet the cut-off mark)
B. Catchment = 35% (this refers to those in the states specified as catchment area for each University: For OAU, that is Lagos, Ogun, Ondo, Oyo, Osun and Ekiti)
C. Educationally disadvantaged states (ELDS)=20% = This refers to all the 19 Northern States, and Ebonyi, Rivers and Bayelsa.

So, someone from Delta such as Aror with 75.2% will not get admission into Medicine in OAU automatically as she is only considered on merit criterion and she does NOT meet the specified cut-off, but someone with the same mark from Kwara (which is in the North Central zone) may get automatic admission with the same mark based on the consideration of ELDS if 75.2% is the specified cut-off for ELDS for Medicine.

2. When a candidate chooses a highly competitive course like Medicine in a top-rated University like OAU, the competition is very intense. Believe it or not, many of the candidates that made our merit mark had an average of six A1s in school cert coupled with very high UTME mark (above 300). So, a candidate must carefully think over his choice of course and university. For example, if Aror had chosen ANY other course as her first choice for OAU, whe would have made the merit mark and gotten automatic admission, and she would have made the merit mark for Medicine on merit for most Nigerian universities too (but NOT OAU unfortunately).

3. Because of the high demand and competition for very limited spaces, the College of Health Sciences does not consider second choices as a general rule. OAU, for example, was only able to offer admission on UTME platform (Merit + Catchment + ELDS) to less than 3% of her applicants for Medicine, and less than 2% of her applicants for Nursing Science this year.

4. For cases like Aror where the candidadte has made a high mark but does not make the cut-off, what the candidate can sometimes do is to come to the University and try and see if he or she can be considered for other courses. A candidadte DOES NOT get considered automatically for a course she has not applied to in JAMB. A candidadte is ONLY automatically considered for the course he or she has applied for with respect to a particular university.

Unfortunately, Aror has left her case too late as all admission lists have been submitted for this year.
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Source:https://www.nairaland.com/3532584/girl-laments-over-inability-secure/4
Cc:mynd44,lalasticlala,fynestboi
The system actually computed 7 instead of 8 subjects..pls do something about it.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by sheunsheun(m): 10:14pm On Dec 22, 2016
With a score of 320 in jamb i expected her O level to be better than that.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Nobody: 10:14pm On Dec 22, 2016
She don use her Jamb score do MMM. You should have chosen Delsu. Them for dey praise u there buy now.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Idyllic: 10:14pm On Dec 22, 2016
Kendzyma:
This is coming from a nairalander with d Monika Adesegunfat


My name is Adesegun Fatusi, and I am the Provost of the College of Health Sciences, OAU, Ile-Ife. The case of the Aror Oghenerukewve has just been brought to my notice. To throw more light on her case, I will present the detaild fact here.

With a score of 320, her mark from UTME amounts to 80% (i.e. 320/400 x 100)
Her school cert results are: English A1 (=8 marks); Biology C4 (=5 marks); Chemistry B3 (=6 marks); Maths B3 (=6 marks); Physics C4 (=5 marks); Physics C4 (=5 marks); Further Maths B2 (=7marks), and Civic Educ A1 (=8 marks). That gives her 45 points, or 70.3% (i.e. 44/64x100)

So her overall average - as OAU did a combination of 50% mark from JAMB and 50% mark from School Cert - is: (80+70.3)=75.15% (which we rounded up to 75.2%).

With that mark, she ranks number 103 on the list of the students who took Medicine as first Choice.

The total admission quota for Medicine in OAU is 100, and that includes UTME and Direct Entry).

Clearly although Aror did well, her mark was NOT good enough to earn her admission on merit to read Medicine in Ife. Her mark of 75.2% is clearly below our cut-off mark (which was initially 78%, but we later reduced to 77.7%). Between her mark of 75.2% and 77.7%, by the way, there were 56 other candidates who scored higher than her but did not make the cut-off. For example, two people had 77.6%, two other people had 77.5%, four people had 77.4% etc.
Having presented the detailed facts about Aror's case, let me also help the many young Nigerians who may be accessing this site with more information on admission as I see a lot of misrepresentation, falsehood, and misunderstanding from the comments that various people had made on this case.

1. Admission into Nigerian Universities are considered on three grounds based on the nationally specified criteria (which I think ought to be reviewed now, by the way):
A. Merit =45% (This covers all candidates from the country - and it is automatic admission once you meet the cut-off mark)
B. Catchment = 35% (this refers to those in the states specified as catchment area for each University: For OAU, that is Lagos, Ogun, Ondo, Oyo, Osun and Ekiti)
C. Educationally disadvantaged states (ELDS)=20% = This refers to all the 19 Northern States, and Ebonyi, Rivers and Bayelsa.

So, someone from Delta such as Aror with 75.2% will not get admission into Medicine in OAU automatically as she is only considered on merit criterion and she does NOT meet the specified cut-off, but someone with the same mark from Kwara (which is in the North Central zone) may get automatic admission with the same mark based on the consideration of ELDS if 75.2% is the specified cut-off for ELDS for Medicine.

2. When a candidate chooses a highly competitive course like Medicine in a top-rated University like OAU, the competition is very intense. Believe it or not, many of the candidates that made our merit mark had an average of six A1s in school cert coupled with very high UTME mark (above 300). So, a candidate must carefully think over his choice of course and university. For example, if Aror had chosen ANY other course as her first choice for OAU, whe would have made the merit mark and gotten automatic admission, and she would have made the merit mark for Medicine on merit for most Nigerian universities too (but NOT OAU unfortunately).

3. Because of the high demand and competition for very limited spaces, the College of Health Sciences does not consider second choices as a general rule. OAU, for example, was only able to offer admission on UTME platform (Merit + Catchment + ELDS) to less than 3% of her applicants for Medicine, and less than 2% of her applicants for Nursing Science this year.

4. For cases like Aror where the candidadte has made a high mark but does not make the cut-off, what the candidate can sometimes do is to come to the University and try and see if he or she can be considered for other courses. A candidadte DOES NOT get considered automatically for a course she has not applied to in JAMB. A candidadte is ONLY automatically considered for the course he or she has applied for with respect to a particular university.

Unfortunately, Aror has left her case too late as all admission lists have been submitted for this year.
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Source:https://www.nairaland.com/3532584/girl-laments-over-inability-secure/4
Cc:mynd44,lalasticlala,fynestboi
The mistake is with the summation of her O'level result. From what the distinguished Prof. posted above. The summation of her O'level result should be 50/64 not 44/64. Therefore her O'level score should be 78.1%. Since her JAMB is 320/400. That is 40/50=80%. 78.1+80/2=79.05%. Which is above the merit cut off. She should be on merit list sir.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Guru9ja(m): 10:15pm On Dec 22, 2016
I just heard a some1 with 66 in post utme and 223 in jamb still got admission into OAU to study medicine.

I never liked OAU and I do tell ma fans not to pick OAU when applying through Jamb.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by tellwisdom: 10:15pm On Dec 22, 2016
Op, what does this mean... Are you minister of finance?sad
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by eph12(m): 10:16pm On Dec 22, 2016
Josephnice:
I don't just buy into this vague calculus theorem of the so called provost to deny this girl her admission. Lecturers are so smart in formulating excuses in cover up of their partiality. Whichever way u solve the equation, this girl deserve a place in the merit list
Hmmm
Why don't you confirm first? What if truly there are others that had better grades?
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by khalebzy(m): 10:16pm On Dec 22, 2016
Y
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by wisdomagbai(m): 10:17pm On Dec 22, 2016
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Jlow2: 10:17pm On Dec 22, 2016
sumone up north with 50 in jamb gets medicine, southerners wakeup.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by micfoley: 10:18pm On Dec 22, 2016
Sir , some people eg kwekutu state that there was an error in the computation of her points. Kindly recheck please .

I really feel for the young brilliant lady.

Also, sir I agree with you that this point system should be reviewed

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by miqos02(m): 10:18pm On Dec 22, 2016
hmmm
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by ebuclassic18(m): 10:18pm On Dec 22, 2016
if properly investigated most of them been admitted bought their way in,and she might still have higher marks than them

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by kstix(m): 10:19pm On Dec 22, 2016
XXLDICK:
the explanation is convincing enough

Post UTME shouldn't have been scrapped. Jamb should havd been scrapped instead
I second that motion of scrapping jamb and retaining post utme. This way one can apply in at most three different institutions directly. And the preferable one u are giving admission is where u go and the slot giving u by the non preferable school(s) is given to someone else who didn't quite make d merit list. This way thousands of ppl waiting to write exams yearly would reduce

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by teamv: 10:19pm On Dec 22, 2016
too bad a deltan can get admitted into oau except via merit list next time try uniben or delsu girl

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Nickizoe(f): 10:19pm On Dec 22, 2016
Nonsense.....

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by SaintzPeter(m): 10:19pm On Dec 22, 2016
undecided
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Kendzyma(m): 10:20pm On Dec 22, 2016
Idyllic:
Sir, there is a mistake in the summation of her own level results. 8+5+6+6+5+5+7+8=50 not 44 sir. So her O level score should be 50/60=83.3% not 70.3%. So her aggregate will be 83.3+ 80= 81.6% sir.
I also think there was a mistake in the computationa..maybe u should create a thread for that and mention him

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Nobody: 10:21pm On Dec 22, 2016
I am impressed with the prompt and detailed response of OAU.

A lot of folks just blindly commented in the morning and they still insist on arguing with the facts provided.

The young girl just was unlucky, though it's still likely some undeserving students would slip through the cracks and get admitted by nepotism.

Those still arguing OAU should have still gone ahead to give her admission just are not ready to face the facts provided here.

Good luck to the girl

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by lonelydora: 10:21pm On Dec 22, 2016
Josephnice:
I don't just buy into this vague calculus theorem of the so called provost to deny this girl her admission. Lecturers are so smart in formulating excuses in cover up of their partiality. Whichever way u solve the equation, this girl deserve a place in the merit list

FG and NUC did that
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by bizza45: 10:22pm On Dec 22, 2016
damn if the student had hope b4 , d provost don 4k am up so badly.... she don fall d babe moral ....no b who first call police dey win case
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Carmal90(m): 10:22pm On Dec 22, 2016
Guru9ja:
I just heard a some1 with 66 in post utme and 223 in jamb still got admission into OAU to study medicine.

I never liked OAU and I do tell ma fans not to pick OAU when applying through Jamb.

What is d best possible route and university for hnd graduate, mechanical engineering,upper credit..pls not part time ohh
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Godprotectigbos(f): 10:23pm On Dec 22, 2016
Rubbish




Even if is true y not give her lower course



Tribalism in highest order

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by eph12(m): 10:23pm On Dec 22, 2016
Idyllic:
Sir, there is a mistake in the summation of her own level results. 8+5+6+6+5+5+7+8=50 not 44 sir. So her O level score should be 50/60=83.3% not 70.3%. So her aggregate will be 83.3+ 80= 81.6% sir.
Did you see that physics was mistakenly written twice?

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by AZeD1(m): 10:24pm On Dec 22, 2016
Guru9ja:
I just heard a some1 with 66 in post utme and 223 in jamb still got admission into OAU to study medicine.

I never liked OAU and I do tell ma fans not to pick OAU when applying through Jamb.

POST UME?

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by thinkative: 10:27pm On Dec 22, 2016
Vcojuro:


Smh there are lots of candidates that didn't meet up to the cutoff point for the department of Medicine, and yet they were admitted.
If you have any doubt go to the various department and check if the admission process is really transparent as they claim to be.
I will challenge the school management to paste the list of admitted students on daily newspapers and school websites.
That's how it's done in the University of Ibadan and this will give no room for manipulation.

Ife also pastes admission list like Ibadan. the admission process is relatively transparent. I can vouch for that. I gained admission in 2008 to read accounting. most people found it hard to believe that I knew no lecturer. in fact, I had only stepped foot in the school once before my admission...for post utme

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Omudia11: 10:28pm On Dec 22, 2016
you're very right.
Drdonzeez:
This man doesn't know maths..Its obvious from the modality that the girl had 79% .

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by paulemi(m): 10:29pm On Dec 22, 2016
ok then

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by cstr19: 10:30pm On Dec 22, 2016
That her jamb score is high enough to get her a place on the merit list.
A 320 JAMB SCORE is no mean feat.
Btw, what she is doing applying for OAU?. That is her first mistake. OAU is not her catchment area.
As a deltan, University Of Benin should be your end-point.

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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Tstone1(m): 10:31pm On Dec 22, 2016
You see some people that has never been to OAU or at one time or the other denied admission throwing the first stone. We are talking about OAU here and medicine for that matter. That was the conclusion of the analysis and it's such a great one from the provost. I saw the thread this morning and I knew there would be response (quick and articulate one) for that matter!

See, let's learn to always know that although it's a faceless forum but we have people here. You can't be emotional about this. For the fact that you were denied admission does not translate to nepotism or the school being bias. The provost made mention of the merit, catchment and the educational less developed states: These are long time criteria for any reasonable federal institution in NIGERIA.
I was denied admission then in OAU and then I tried again! Now it all a bye gone looking back after 5 years.

My advice to the applicant(s); don't get carried away with the social media! You're too young for that. I became active on Nairaland after my first degree so you had better face your academics for now.

Don't stop trying, I wish you the very best in your pursuit of a great and excellent career!!!

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