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Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by BraniacX(m): 1:12am On Dec 23, 2016
baum1:


Bros, the ethnic diversity in the west is greater, for sure...There are more easterners, northerners etc in eastern and northern schools than there are westerners in western schools..

In lagos and U.I yes and to a much lesser extent O.A.U but the rest are largely monoethnic and it is not because of dearth of applications from other ethnic groups, Unillorin is a point in case and this isn't limited to the southwest alone, in the north aside A.B.U the rest are same and that is largely the case in the southeast so i wouldn't even vouch for any school there, Uniben stands out in this case and it is reflected in the number of applications they get from all over Nigeria which is second only to Unillorin for obvious reasons, other schools may have sprinklings of ethnic diversity but not at a level which give it statistical significance and bring notice of it to the forefront.

I as a niger deltan from delta state has equal chances of gaining admission into uniben with you and an edo indegene from benin city in any given course on merit, this is my argument
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by baum1: 1:13am On Dec 23, 2016
daneni1:


ENGLISH A1=8
BIOLOGY C4=5
CHEMISTRY B3=6
MATHS. B3=6
physics. C4=5
Further maths B2=7
civic edu. A1=8

Adding all togeda will result to 45 which makes extra. subject "physics'' make it a total of 50.


8+5+6+6+5+7+8=45.

Go thru it again.

Bro, just log into your facebook, search the profs name and send him a message on these issues.

We all should do that, not just for us to vent here, abeg go facebook now.
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Phi001(m): 1:13am On Dec 23, 2016
mtto:

Her OL is actually better than that. She attached a copy to her original post. Please find it and check.
The girls has 3 A1s, 4 Bs and 2 C4s.

The professor wrote nonsense and calculated nonsense for her.

There is God ooo
What concern Civic/Painting with medicine?
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by baum1: 1:14am On Dec 23, 2016
BraniacX:


In lagos and U.I yes and to a much lesser extent O.A.U but the rest are largely monoethnic and it is not because of dearth of applications from other ethnic groups, Unillorin is a point in case and this isn't limited to the southwest alone, in the north aside A.B.U the rest are same and that is largely the case in the southeast so i wouldn't even vouch for any school there, Uniben stands out in this case and it is reflected in the number of applications they get from all over Nigeria which is second only to Unillorin for obvious reasons, other schools may have sprinklings of ethnic diversity but not at a level which give it statistical significance and bring notice of it to the forefront.

I as a niger deltan from delta state has equal chances of gaining admission into uniben with you and an edo indegene from benin city in any given course on merit, this is my argument

bros. this argument makes sense. Thanks. As you rightly said, I was restricting my south west to lagos, UI and IFE..very myopic indeed
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Phi001(m): 1:14am On Dec 23, 2016
Nalikedis:
how on earth will someone score 320 and be denied admission. meanwhile someone with 220 and 202 will be admitted into same program. Thats absolute injustice and non sense. Infact candidates with such high marks should be given automatic admission... waec or no waec. what if the 320 is as a result of a whole year tedious preparation, meanwhile waec was written without any special effort. God punish elds...
What if the jamb score was obtained through ill-gotten means?
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by baum1: 1:15am On Dec 23, 2016
Phi001:

What concern Civic/Painting with medicine?

Bro, everything is used for the GPA calculation now..No subject segregation. Look at the prof's post again.
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by baum1: 1:16am On Dec 23, 2016
Phi001:

What if the jamb score was obtained through ill-gotten means?

Can you prove this? We can't, so we have to go with 'it was obtained through her brains. her O'levels are very good too.
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Phi001(m): 1:17am On Dec 23, 2016
baum1:


Bro, everything is used for the GPA calculation now..No subject segregation. Look at the prof's post again.
Maybe, but I saw her e-transcript, she put only 7 subjects...


She is to be blamed.


If I find it again, I'll modify...


Modified:

Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by bamidell(m): 1:18am On Dec 23, 2016
Mrs....? Is she married.... even young girls of now a days can't get half of that scores. God help these and the unborn generation
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Phi001(m): 1:18am On Dec 23, 2016
baum1:


Can you prove this? We can't, so we have to go with 'it was obtained through her brains. her O'levels are very good too.
Really?


Is that how people now conclude?
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by daneni1(m): 1:20am On Dec 23, 2016
baum1:


Bro, just log into your facebook, search the profs name and send him a message on these issues.

We all should do that, not just for us to vent here, abeg go facebook now.

What will I send to the provost? According to him, "it is unfortunate that admission request has closed''. I feel the applicant pain but no matter want we post here, the issue had been dealt with.
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Adezzy007: 1:20am On Dec 23, 2016
Imagine a provost with very poor calculation skills. The girl had 77.87 not 75.whatever see leg over.... Hmmmm OAU again nonsense.
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by ekolina(m): 1:21am On Dec 23, 2016
Drdonzeez:
This man doesn't know maths..Its obvious from the modality that the girl had 79% .
Your calculation is very correct. I fink the school needs to recalculate the her scores
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Phi001(m): 1:21am On Dec 23, 2016
Adezzy007:
Imagine a provost with very poor calculation skills. The girl had 77.87 not 75.whatever see leg over.... Hmmmm OAU again nonsense.
Do tell how you obtained the extra 2.87%
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Carlmax(m): 1:24am On Dec 23, 2016
I don't get this - Educationally disadvantaged states - crap. what exactly does it take into consideration, your state of Origin? or the State you were educated? because if it is the former, then Nigeria is official a cesspit built solely for the damnation of people from a particular region. With such idiotic and partial Criteria, I can never be a Nationalist nor ever pray for this cursed Union... Just let my People GO!!!
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by baum1: 1:25am On Dec 23, 2016
Phi001:

Really?


Is that how people now conclude?

How else do you want to conclude that she cheated? Provide a compelling argument that does not involve retesting and I will agree with you if it makes sense. No jokes here.
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by BraniacX(m): 1:27am On Dec 23, 2016
thinkative:


regarding the ranking. she ranked 103 among the jambites. 100 students were admitted in all for medicine. but those 100 were not all jambites. direct entry admissions were included. ur logic here does not take the direct entries into consideration.

and I don't think its nice to call the provost names. he should be applauded for showing concern (if its really is true that the reply is from him). most university dons I know wouldn't care a hoot cos they know there's nothing anyone can do about it in this Godforsaken country!

I think direct entry should be into 200l not 100l or has that changed? undecided correct me if i'm wrong
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by baum1: 1:28am On Dec 23, 2016
daneni1:


What will I send to the provost? According to him, "it is unfortunate that admission request has closed''. I feel the applicant pain but no matter want we post here, the issue had been dealt with.

APOLOGIES are not out of place. If they made a mistake, they must own up. If they prove that they didn't make a mistake, their argument must be compelling enough to douse the suspicion of intelligent people in the country. Simple.

What to send -

Dear prof, we thank you for taking time to provide your views on this important matter regarding this smart girl. We have gone through your insightful comments, but we notice an oversight in the compution of the studen't O'level GPA..Her scores actually beat the merit cut off..And then you provide some sentences to prove this..Simple

Apologies are not out of place. The wrong person, whether the school or the girl, must be known.
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by baum1: 1:29am On Dec 23, 2016
BraniacX:


I think direct entry should be into 200l not 100l or has that changed? undecided correct me if i'm wrong

Nice point...May be they just calculate all students admitted newly, irrespective of whether it is into first or second year..Read new
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by BraniacX(m): 1:30am On Dec 23, 2016
Oluwapresley:
dude, chk it again. physics was repeated twice. prof is right. summation is 45
Then it should be 45/56 not 45/64
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Phi001(m): 1:30am On Dec 23, 2016
baum1:


How else do you want to conclude that she cheated? Provide a compelling argument that does not involve retesting and I will agree with you if it makes sense. No jokes here.
I can't ever remember saying she cheated. I merely replied a speculation with a speculation.
A mere comparison of what ifs.
Check the screenshot below...


However, if you're interested, I can provide compelling argument on why she was not admitted though.

Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Phi001(m): 1:32am On Dec 23, 2016
BraniacX:


I think direct entry should be into 200l not 100l or has that changed? undecided correct me if i'm wrong
I think the total sum of students admitted both from jamb/direct entry was 100.
53 from jamb, 47 from A levels...
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by baum1: 1:32am On Dec 23, 2016
Phi001:

I can't ever remember saying she cheated. I merely replied a speculation with a speculation.
A mere comparison of what ifs.
Check the screenshot below...


However, if you're interested, I can provide compelling argument on why she was not admitted though.

Bro, your last sentence is the most important. Yes, I am interested. i don too invest in this girl matter for internet, i don even contact her sef...Anything that will prove why she wasn't admitted will cool our boiling blood
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by baum1: 1:33am On Dec 23, 2016
Phi001:

I think the total sum of students admitted both from jamb/direct entry was 100.
53 from jamb, 47 from A levels...

Which of the A'levels and what are their requirements? is it up to AAA or A*A*A* or less?
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Phi001(m): 1:34am On Dec 23, 2016
BraniacX:


Then it should be 45/56 not 45/64
They were asked to provide their best 8 subjects and she submitted only 7
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by Phi001(m): 1:35am On Dec 23, 2016
baum1:


Which of the A'levels and what are their requirements? is it up to AAA or A*A*A* or less?
Oya discuss that one with the provost...
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by BraniacX(m): 1:35am On Dec 23, 2016
Phi001:

I think the total sum of students admitted both from jamb/direct entry was 100.
53 from jamb, 47 from A levels...

My point is that A levels go directly to 200l not 100l, 100l admissions is strictly o'levels
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by baum1: 1:36am On Dec 23, 2016
Phi001:

They were asked to provide their best 8 subjects and she submitted only 7

Bro, I see your point..But were the candidates aware that this O'level GPA stuff will be used? How person no go supply all 8 if she know say e go favour her?
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by akoko11: 1:37am On Dec 23, 2016
Let do d computation of her score again, in ur computation physics was repeated twice. Below is d computation.

With a score of 320, her mark from UTME amounts to 80% (i.e. 320/400 x 100)
Her school cert results are: English A1 (=8 marks); Biology C4 (=5 marks); Chemistry B3 (=6 marks); Maths B3 (=6 marks); Physics C4 (=5 marks); Further Maths B2 (=7marks), and Civic Educ A1 (=8 marks).

8+5+6+6+5+7+8 = 45
(45/56)*100 = 81.2%
Now taking d average of utme n school cert.
We have 81.2+80= 161.2/2 =80.2%


I disagree with d provost completely, this girl pass d cut off mark. OAU Pls give her her admission.
#give aror her admission
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by AK481(m): 1:37am On Dec 23, 2016
Kendzyma:
This is coming from a nairalander with d Monika Adesegunfat


My name is Adesegun Fatusi, and I am the Provost of the College of Health Sciences, OAU, Ile-Ife. The case of the Aror Oghenerukewve has just been brought to my notice. To throw more light on her case, I will present the detaild fact here.

With a score of 320, her mark from UTME amounts to 80% (i.e. 320/400 x 100)
Her school cert results are: English A1 (=8 marks); Biology C4 (=5 marks); Chemistry B3 (=6 marks); Maths B3 (=6 marks); Physics C4 (=5 marks); Physics C4 (=5 marks); Further Maths B2 (=7marks), and Civic Educ A1 (=8 marks). That gives her 45 points, or 70.3% (i.e. 44/64x100)

So her overall average - as OAU did a combination of 50% mark from JAMB and 50% mark from School Cert - is: (80+70.3)=75.15% (which we rounded up to 75.2%).

With that mark, she ranks number 103 on the list of the students who took Medicine as first Choice.

The total admission quota for Medicine in OAU is 100, and that includes UTME and Direct Entry).

Clearly although Aror did well, her mark was NOT good enough to earn her admission on merit to read Medicine in Ife. Her mark of 75.2% is clearly below our cut-off mark (which was initially 78%, but we later reduced to 77.7%). Between her mark of 75.2% and 77.7%, by the way, there were 56 other candidates who scored higher than her but did not make the cut-off. For example, two people had 77.6%, two other people had 77.5%, four people had 77.4% etc.
Having presented the detailed facts about Aror's case, let me also help the many young Nigerians who may be accessing this site with more information on admission as I see a lot of misrepresentation, falsehood, and misunderstanding from the comments that various people had made on this case.

1. Admission into Nigerian Universities are considered on three grounds based on the nationally specified criteria (which I think ought to be reviewed now, by the way):
A. Merit =45% (This covers all candidates from the country - and it is automatic admission once you meet the cut-off mark)
B. Catchment = 35% (this refers to those in the states specified as catchment area for each University: For OAU, that is Lagos, Ogun, Ondo, Oyo, Osun and Ekiti)
C. Educationally disadvantaged states (ELDS)=20% = This refers to all the 19 Northern States, and Ebonyi, Rivers and Bayelsa.

So, someone from Delta such as Aror with 75.2% will not get admission into Medicine in OAU automatically as she is only considered on merit criterion and she does NOT meet the specified cut-off, but someone with the same mark from Kwara (which is in the North Central zone) may get automatic admission with the same mark based on the consideration of ELDS if 75.2% is the specified cut-off for ELDS for Medicine.

2. When a candidate chooses a highly competitive course like Medicine in a top-rated University like OAU, the competition is very intense. Believe it or not, many of the candidates that made our merit mark had an average of six A1s in school cert coupled with very high UTME mark (above 300). So, a candidate must carefully think over his choice of course and university. For example, if Aror had chosen ANY other course as her first choice for OAU, whe would have made the merit mark and gotten automatic admission, and she would have made the merit mark for Medicine on merit for most Nigerian universities too (but NOT OAU unfortunately).

3. Because of the high demand and competition for very limited spaces, the College of Health Sciences does not consider second choices as a general rule. OAU, for example, was only able to offer admission on UTME platform (Merit + Catchment + ELDS) to less than 3% of her applicants for Medicine, and less than 2% of her applicants for Nursing Science this year.

4. For cases like Aror where the candidadte has made a high mark but does not make the cut-off, what the candidate can sometimes do is to come to the University and try and see if he or she can be considered for other courses. A candidadte DOES NOT get considered automatically for a course she has not applied to in JAMB. A candidadte is ONLY automatically considered for the course he or she has applied for with respect to a particular university.

Unfortunately, Aror has left her case too late as all admission lists have been submitted for this year.
...
Source:https://www.nairaland.com/3532584/girl-laments-over-inability-secure/4

1. she came 103 while tge cut off was 100, there were Just 2 CAndidatea that did better than her but werent shortlisted

2.in another statement she said the cut off was 77.7 while sshe scored 75.2 and from 77.7 to her 75.2 there are 56 other candidates before her

you see there is no perfect liar.
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by AZeD1(m): 1:38am On Dec 23, 2016
Guru9ja:
Yes my brother
I don't think there was post UME this year.
Re: Provost Of Health Sciences Oau Gives Reasons Why Mrs Aror Wasnt Admitted by BraniacX(m): 1:39am On Dec 23, 2016
baum1:


Nice point...May be they just calculate all students admitted newly, irrespective of whether it is into first or second year..Read new

No, this was the list of students admitted into 100l through jamb and o'level results and she should have qualified on merit if the o'level results which i'm just getting to see were actually what was computed which mind you, it wasn't

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