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Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by omonnakoda: 6:56am On Dec 24, 2016
Just a simple question for those with genuine experience which will cost more ,foundation or decking?
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by asamaigho(m): 6:59am On Dec 24, 2016
bebe2:


Location is opic estate , badagry express way, agbara axis.

It's a dry land. So regular upstairs foundation.

I think the blocks are too much, 2000 blocks to foundation?? How many blocks would then then finish the house?

And if iron bender is 18k a ton, am using 1/4 and 3/4 which is a total of 2tons approximately, which should be 18x2=36k , so why am I being charged almost 200k?

Will upload the plan


the blocks can't be too much haba, I was even expecting 2500block
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by Durosure(m): 6:59am On Dec 24, 2016
AM LEARNING
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by Frankgoz(m): 7:00am On Dec 24, 2016
[quote author=Chekitaut post=52146630]Location?
Which type of foundation are you doing?
Available Drawing?

Iron bender labour 18k/ton, meanwhile you are buying the rings already price have to come down
Carpenter is high
block setting is N50/block
Setting out N10,000
Granite 20tons N110,000
Sand 20tons N50,000
2x3 N350each
Binding wire 10kg N3000

10k for setting out is not ok, I would rather you don't mislead the client. Is probably a one unit shop u can set out with that amount.

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Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by Dauraking: 7:00am On Dec 24, 2016
The OP should please give me the phone number of the architect that drew the plan. I have a 90ft by 150ft land to build similar building. Thanks
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by kuntash: 7:02am On Dec 24, 2016
EngrOsas:
Its a very fair quote. Your Engineer is honest


I was almost going to say that ..
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by ChikezieU(m): 7:02am On Dec 24, 2016
Seek assistance from a Quantity Surveyor nearby. Although its a fair price
bebe2:
Hello all

I want to your opinion on this estimate, i think it's its high but my contractor insists there is no west we could do it cheaper.

Foundation for 6 flats, i.e Of 2bedroom each. 3flats ground floor and 3flats upstairs.

Is there any area of this estimate that we might be able to reduce to make a saving?

Spydder880
Mufutau55
Erico2k2

All experienced builders in the house pls chip in smiley
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by Frankgoz(m): 7:06am On Dec 24, 2016
bebe2:


Bro sorry wats an overcast??

There is no filing in this quotation oo, just to set the foundation out.

obviuosly there is not and look at the whole quotation itself!!!!. The client should be carefull nt to be deceived. U shouldn't necessarily award contracts to d lowest bidders. Most contractors wil quote ridiculously low just to get d job.The quotation is not all encompassing its kinda unprofessional and crappy!!

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Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by AngelicBeing: 7:12am On Dec 24, 2016
agarawu23:
U never reach anywhere, u don dey complain, u better go build bungalow
grin grin grin
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by Tiffbuxas: 7:12am On Dec 24, 2016
madame é b like say everybody wan hustle for your head o..... grin
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by Tiffbuxas: 7:13am On Dec 24, 2016
madame é b like say everybody was hustle for your head o..... grin
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by Trustworthiness: 7:18am On Dec 24, 2016
From the picture of your plan you posted, the partitioning is much. You can also do a little simple mathematics.

1. Sum up all the length from you ground floor plan. The length, breath and all partitioning within the plan. Divide it by 18 inches, if the measurements is in inches. If the measurements is in millimeters, divide it by equivalent of the 18 inches in millimetres.

2. Multiply the number you arrived at in 1 above by the number of coaches your foundation will have.

That will give you an appropriate of blocks your need for the foundation. This value is usually like 5 to 10 percent higher than the actual as the cement mixture space to hold the blocks together not considered.

Note:
If you are not sure of the price given to you by your Engineer, consult two more Engineers and compare the quotations and ask questions based on the differences of item and price quoted.
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by lakesider(m): 7:20am On Dec 24, 2016
the bill is very unprofessional as the quantity of work and quality of material and specification is not giving.there is a high chance that you will be deceived into starting the project and eventually spend more for a less quality job .
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by Debbime(f): 7:21am On Dec 24, 2016
But why not mold your blocks yourself? I believe it will be cheaper and stronger than buying.....just saying




bebe2:
Hello all

I want to your opinion on this estimate, i think it's its high but my contractor insists there is no west we could do it cheaper.

Foundation for 6 flats, i.e Of 2bedroom each. 3flats ground floor and 3flats upstairs.

Is there any area of this estimate that we might be able to reduce to make a saving?

Spydder880
Mufutau55
Erico2k2

All experienced builders in the house pls chip in smiley
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by VictorRomanov: 7:23am On Dec 24, 2016
Chekitaut:
Location?
Which type of foundation are you doing?
Available Drawing?

Iron bender labour 18k/ton, meanwhile you are buying the rings already price have to come down
Carpenter is high
block setting is N50/block
Setting out N10,000
Granite 20tons N110,000
Sand 20tons N50,000
2x3 N350each
Binding wire 10kg N3000


in short all is questionable
anywhere in Lagos

rushing to have an opinion on a matter when u don't have all the details, either makes u look foolish or appear as a bad belle. I doubt with the plan above that the quotation will even be enough. That quote is half the actual price. And u re saying it's too much.


Bebe2, I suggest u get a professional QS or an experienced civil engineer or builder to give u a better estimate. The materials and labour are underestimated.

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Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by mohisd(m): 7:25am On Dec 24, 2016
Abeg give d guy d money make e start work
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by baconline(m): 7:28am On Dec 24, 2016
U are not serious, that quotation is too small , u will spend Double of that and even more b4 u do d DPC, u think building a storied building is child's play, your so called contractor does not have d experience that's why he gave u what will not even do the foundation, my advice u will spend 3m nothing less except u want to be heading for sub standard work, I guest the building does not even have a structural drawing as the granite u want to use is too small

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Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by johnson232: 7:30am On Dec 24, 2016
Chekitaut:
Location?
Which type of foundation are you doing?
Available Drawing?

Iron bender labour 18k/ton, meanwhile you are buying the rings already price have to come down
Carpenter is high
block setting is N50/block
Setting out N10,000
Granite 20tons N110,000
Sand 20tons N50,000
2x3 N350each
Binding wire 10kg N3000


in short all is questionable
anywhere in Lagos
Stop saying what u don't know @bold...
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by akeensbussy(m): 7:34am On Dec 24, 2016
bebe2:
Hello all

I want to your opinion on this estimate, i think it's its high but my contractor insists there is no west we could do it cheaper.

Foundation for 6 flats, i.e Of 2bedroom each. 3flats ground floor and 3flats upstairs.

Is there any area of this estimate that we might be able to reduce to make a saving?

Spydder880
Mufutau55
Erico2k2

All experienced builders in the house pls chip in smiley

The truth is that your contractor has given you a good and the best estimate so far...Yes, u can use 6" block in your foundation and that will be only internal demarcation while the 9 inches block will be use for external and it will work perfectly.

Let your contractor carry go... nairaland will mislead you. To the best of my knowledge, u are on the right tract.

That your contractor is sincere with you.
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by donikky(f): 7:34am On Dec 24, 2016
bebe2:
Hello all

I want to your opinion on this estimate, i think it's its high but my contractor insists there is no west we could do it cheaper.

Foundation for 6 flats, i.e Of 2bedroom each. 3flats ground floor and 3flats upstairs.

Is there any area of this estimate that we might be able to reduce to make a saving?

Spydder880
Mufutau55
Erico2k2

All experienced builders in the house pls chip in smiley
sir,that's my mum's job..she is a supplier, I'm not a scammer, Her shop is in mushin,you can pay when you've seen d goods
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by akeensbussy(m): 7:38am On Dec 24, 2016
[quote author=bebe2 post=52145958]Hello all

I want to your opinion on this estimate, i think it's its high but my contractor insists there is no west we could do it cheaper.

Foundation for 6 flats, i.e Of 2bedroom each. 3flats ground floor and 3flats upstairs.

Is there any area of this estimate that we might be able to reduce to make a saving?

Spydder880
Mufutau55
Erico2k2

All experienced builders in the house pls chip in smiley[/quote


The truth is that your contractor has given you a good and the best estimate so far...Yes, u can use 6" block in your foundation and that will be only internal demarcation while the 9 inches block will be use for external and it will work perfectly.

Let your contractor carry go... nairaland will mislead you. To the best of my knowledge, u are on the right tract.

That your contractor is sincere with you

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Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by dunmotuscana(m): 7:51am On Dec 24, 2016
bebe2:


Location is opic estate , badagry express way, agbara axis.

It's a dry land. So regular upstairs foundation.

I think the blocks are too much, 2000 blocks to foundation?? How many blocks would then then finish the house?

And if iron bender is 18k a ton, am using 1/4 and 3/4 which is a total of 2tons approximately, which should be 18x2=36k , so why am I being charged almost 200k?

Will upload the plan
madam 1/4 +3/4 is unity.....means 1. they charge 18k/ton. Almost everything here is high,get another quote then compare both. You can drive down to agbara to check price yourself.
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by jeftalene(m): 7:59am On Dec 24, 2016
EngrOsas:



Dude what's the meaning of that statement?
We are two different people and its obvious.

My great colleague, I was just trying to clarify a growing misconception.
Very sorry if you weren't comfortable with that.

Compliments of the season to you!

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Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by Xano(m): 8:00am On Dec 24, 2016
Your builder is honest. The BOQ is fair.
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by jeftalene(m): 8:07am On Dec 24, 2016
bebe2:


Ur website is quite detailed and helpful if someone is purchasing materials but wen it comes to certain part of labour it's abit confusing.

For example , most iron benders contract the job and will not accept day pay. In my case , how much is an ideal payment for the iron work on the foundation?
however , i

1. What is available on the website now is labour rates per day. We are still putting together the labour rate (on contract) per ton of rebars and so on. Always visit www.engineerosaz..com to check for updates. Its work in progress!

2. Genrally for labour rates, the cost normally hovers around 15% of the cost of materials. Considering the quote, the cost of all the materials for the Steel work is about 201600. It is therefore safe to conclude that the 30k would have being a better deal. However the extra 15k may have been included to cover supervisions, if supervision fee is not quoted separately.

3. From the quantity of reinforcement i see in the list, i could easily deduce that the land is perceived to be very stable at shallow depth and perhaps a traditional strip foundation with blocks and columns is to be adopted. If this is true, my advice is for you to also pad the strip. overtime, we have observed that buildings of this size (or load) built on this type of foundation begins to deflect and crack within the first 5-10 years after completion. it is therefore safer to also pad the strip. Here is a link on how to do this; http://engineerosaz..com/2016/10/on-foundations-it-is-safer-to-pad-strip_30.html
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by twinskenny(m): 8:13am On Dec 24, 2016
Good luck madam
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by InvertedHammer: 8:25am On Dec 24, 2016
bebe2:
Hello all

I want to your opinion on this estimate, i think it's its high but my contractor insists there is no west we could do it cheaper.

Foundation for 6 flats, i.e Of 2bedroom each. 3flats ground floor and 3flat

Is there any area of this estimate that we might be able to reduce to make a saving?

Spydder880
Mufutau55
Erico2k2

All experienced builders in the house pls chip in smiley
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If in doubt, get 3 different quotes and compare.
But ensure the competency of the contractors is not under question.

It is an open market. You can go and get the prices of these items yourself. When push comes to shove, you can import workers from out of state. Some people do import skilled workers from the middle belt.

If I may ask, why 6" block in a foundation?
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Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by Aburumah75: 8:25am On Dec 24, 2016
my friend, I have only one suggestion to offer:
never use 6 inch block for foundation. in fact, the whole ground floor must be made of 9 inches blocks. if not you will come to regret later.
even here in the north where the soil is a bit more stable we do not take such a risk.
I rest my case!
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by Minlax(m): 8:25am On Dec 24, 2016
That amount won't get you to dpc, the contractor didn't want to scare you.
Re: Estimated Cost Of My 6flat Foundation. Overpriced?? by delzbaba(m): 8:27am On Dec 24, 2016
Community 100k,haba,and those thieves go still come when the building proper wan start.
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