raumdeuter:


Roman money bought the key pieces of the Chelsea team Cech, Carvalho, Cashley Makelele Ballack, Drogba all who were top 5 in their position at their peak

That was what saved Lampard from being another Jody Morris

So what position was Ronaldinho, eto, deco, xavi, Messi, who surrounded Iniesta over the years?

SIRcumalot:
but na for West Ham Lampard win this trophy
that should count for something.

Inter toto is the Carling cup of continental trophies, SO useless that it has 3 winners every year

"The cup billed itself as providing both an opportunity for clubs who otherwise would not get the chance to enter the UEFA Cup and as an opportunity for sports lotteries (or pools) to continue during the summer.[2] This reflects its background, which was as a tournament solely for football poolsThe cup billed itself as providing both an opportunity for clubs who otherwise would not get the chance to enter the UEFA Cup and as an opportunity for sports lotteries (or pools) to continue during the summer.[2] This reflects its background, which was as a tournament solely for football pools"

hensben:
So what position was Ronaldinho, eto, deco, xavi, Messi, who surrounded Iniesta over the years?

Most of these players you mentioned were nobodies before getting to Barcelona. They were made in Barca. Unlike Lampards mates
Before joining Chelsea
Cech was best keeper in at EUro 2004
Carvalho was a CL winner with Porto
Cashley was a CL finalis at Arsenal
Makelele was a CL winner at Madrid
Ballack was a CL finalist at Leverkusen
Drogba was UEFA cup winner and one of Europes best strikers

raumdeuter:


Inter toto is the Carling cup of continental trophies, SO useless that it has 3 winners every year

"The cup billed itself as providing both an opportunity for clubs who otherwise would not get the chance to enter the UEFA Cup and as an opportunity for sports lotteries (or pools) to continue during the summer.[2] This reflects its background, which was as a tournament solely for football poolsThe cup billed itself as providing both an opportunity for clubs who otherwise would not get the chance to enter the UEFA Cup and as an opportunity for sports lotteries (or pools) to continue during the summer.[2] This reflects its background, which was as a tournament solely for football pools"

The uselessness isn't the question.(Westham fans probably disagrees)
The question na
Shey Lampard don win any European style tourney without babaolowo's money
The answer na Yes.

raumdeuter:


Most of these players you mentioned were nobodies before getting to Barcelona. They were made in Barca. Unlike Lampards mates
Before joining Chelsea
Cech was best keeper in at EUro 2004
Carvalho was a CL winner with Porto
Cashley was a CL finalis at Arsenal
Makelele was a CL winner at Madrid
Ballack was a CL finalist at Leverkusen
Drogba was UEFA cup winner and one of Europes best strikers

i didn't ask you what their previous team achieved cos football is not lawn tennis. Tell me, individually, what was their position in world football then? You said ballack and co were top 5 so what was the position of Ronaldinho and co when they were surrounding iniesta? Abi you wan change topic again?

hensben:
i didn't ask you what their previous team achieved cos football is not lawn tennis. Tell me, individually, what was their position in world football then? You said ballack and co were top 5 so what was the position of Ronaldinho and co when they were surrounding iniesta? Abi you wan change topic again?

Before Ronaldinho joined Barca he wasnt top 5 in the world
Before Etoo joined Barca he wasnt top 5 inthe world
Before Xavi joined Barca he wasnt top 5 in the world
Before Messi joined Barca he wasnt top 5 in the world

Before joining Chelsea

Cech was best keeper in at EUro 2004
Carvalho was a CL winner with Porto
Cashley was a CL finalis at Arsenal
Makelele was a CL winner at Madrid
Ballack was a CL finalist at Leverkusen
Drogba was UEFA cup winner and one of Europes best strikers

raumdeuter:


Before Ronaldinho joined Barca he wasnt top 5 in the world
Before Etoo joined Barca he wasnt top 5 inthe world
Before Xavi joined Barca he wasnt top 5 in the world
Before Messi joined Barca he wasnt top 5 in the world

When Ronaldinho came to Barca Iniesta wasn't a starter. Tell me, when he became a starter what position Ronaldinho, deco and co were?

hensben:
When Ronaldinho came to Barca Iniesta wasn't a starter. Tell me, when he became a starter what position Ronaldinho, deco and co were?

Most of those players you are mentioning became stars at Barca unlike at Chelsea where they were ready made world beaters before joining

raumdeuter:


Most of those players you are mentioning became stars at Barca unlike at Chelsea where they were ready made world beaters before joining

You are so funny Bros..... The way you find a way to exaggerate stuffs is always interesting......twale baba....

diggz:
You are so funny Bros..... The way you find a way to exaggerate stuffs is always interesting......twale baba....

Dont just twaile, send money join

raumdeuter:


Dont just twaile, send money join

Elenu kpa.....

Debroslink:


Iniesta won the league before Messi started playing for Barcelona.

Iniesta won the league and Copa after Xavi left.

No Sugar daddy there.

Show me what Lampard won before Abramovich's billions saved him.

My friend will you shut the fcuck up. Iniesta won with Ronaldinho, Suarez, Messi etc.

Iniesta has never played with subpar players in his life. He was born with silver spoon.

What did Luka Modric win without Madrids billions?

Show me what Boateng won before Bayerns billions.

Lampard at 36 went to Man City and was their top performing midfielder despite his old age, you are here typing crap about Romans billions. Why not Sheikh Mansoors billions?

Lampard has more goals in just 5 years pre-Roman than Pius Iniesta has in his whole career. That should be enough to bury the eunuchs head in shame.

Ibime:
Show me what Boateng won before Bayerns billions.

The biggest trophy in football The world cup

raumdeuter:


Before Lampard started making Chelsea team, they won thee Winners cup, won the Super cup beating Real Madrid, they got to the CL quarter finals where they lost to Barcelona in extra time

So Chelsea was achieving things before lampard joined them, Lampard joined and in Europe they cant beat Vikings of Norway cant beat Hapoel Telaviv UNTIL the messiah Roman arrived to save Lampard from going the direction of Jody Morris

Fat Frank if-not-for-Roman Lampard

My friend will you shut the Bleep up? Which year did Chelsea win Cup winners Cup et al and which year did Lampard join Chelsea?

This is not like Pep who turned Bayern from UCL winners to 7-0 disgrace in one summer. We are talking of a team of 30+ pensioners in 1998 that were largely all retired or past it by the time Lampard landed in Chelsea 3 years later.

Ibime:


My friend will you shut the fcuck up. Iniesta won with Ronaldinho, Suarez, Messi etc.

Iniesta has never played with subpar players in his life. He was born with silver spoon.

What did Luka Modric win without Madrids billions?

Show me what Boateng won before Bayerns billions.

Lampard at 36 went to Man City and was their top performing midfielder despite his old age, you are here typing crap about Romans billions. Why not Sheikh Mansoors billions?

Lampard has more goals in just 5 years pre-Roman than Pius Iniesta has in his whole career. That should be enough to bury the eunuchs head in shame.

1st, I don't discuss Boateng

2nd, Iniesta at 22 had more impact than Ronaldinho in our UCL win against Arsenal.

3rd, Iniesta won the league title without Messi or Xavi beside him in 2 different full seasons.

4th, Ronaldinho was a Madrid reject when he joined Barca. He wasn't a superstar then.

5th, Lampard would have been a nobody without Abramovich's billions. Show me the titles he won without Abramovich's money.

Debroslink:


1st, I don't discuss Boateng

2nd, Iniesta at 22 had more impact than Ronaldinho in our UCL win against Arsenal.

3rd, Iniesta won the league title without Messi or Xavi beside him in 2 different full seasons.

4th, Lampard would have been a nobody without Abramovich's billions. Show me the titles he won without Abramovich's money.

You are very foolish. Iniesta had more impact than Ronaldinho? Why not Henrik Larsson or Belletti. Please remind me where Iniesta charted in WPOTY that year? Fool.

Iniesta won the league with Ronaldinho the best player in the world, Eto the best striker, Deco the best midfielder, Suarez the best striker, Neymar the best winger not named Messi or Ronaldo. You must be very stewpid claiming Iniesta did something without Xavi or Messi when all the players I just mentioned are better than anything Lampard ever played with even in Romans team. What you need to do is show us what Iniesta won with Albacete, mugu.

Lampard was the highest decorated player in the team he played for - he was 2nd in the world and no one else at Chelsea finished top 10.

Iniesta played with several WPOTY winners and top charters like Ronaldinho, Suarez, Neymar, Messi, Henry et al.

Lampard was the only top charter in his team. You cannot compare the quality they played with, yet the Eunuch was outproduced 6 to 1.

Ibime:


My friend will you shut the Bleep up? Which year did Chelsea win Cup winners Cup et al and which year did Lampard join Chelsea?

This is not like Pep who turned Bayern from UCL winners to 7-0 disgrace in one summer. We are talking of a team of 30+ pensioners in 1998 that were largely all retired or past it by the time Lampard landed in Chelsea 3 years later.

Shut up you obese Arrow

Those 30+ men made the CL quarters and lost in extra time to Barca Lampard got to Chelsea and suddenly Chelsea is losing to Vikings and Hapoel Telaviv

I actually see Chelsea doing a continuous win till end of January.... at d end of d season it should be a Total of 32 wins 3 draws and 3 loses=99 points

diggz:


Ogbeni 2 by 4, I don't know what kind of crazy spiders you have running all over your head! But, in trying to defend why your life seems fixed on borrowing N100 airtime repeatedly from all mobile networks, you are exposing yourself more and more.

There is no shame to be broke homesteady....I am sure you are not the first or won't be the last. Trying to use the distance from your house to your village in Ogbomosho as an excuse to turn into a serial N100 airtime Oni gbese won't simply work ..... What happened to your so called quickteller or your bank's short code e.g *737# for gtb or internet banking? This forum must look like your village town hall filled with ignorant modafvckers like yourself,right?

I am having difficulties keeping up with your bottomless show of steeewpidity today, so if you choose to post your statement of account(that is , if you have any though) or airtime balance, I won't be surprised either.

Mr Einstein aka Homesteady......are you claiming that you never posted how tired you have become of this country(Nigeria),over the choice of mobile networks to increase their petty loans from 10% to 15%? Come tell us differently , you pig-headed eeedioooot......

This guy is a nut case
Can't you just accept that your ploy has woefully failed? You seem hell bent on bringing disgrace to your lineage!
Are you trying to tell us that your teachers in school didn't teach you with examples?

Forcing 'brokeness' on someone on the net is so ancient and childish just stop it.

raumdeuter:


Most of those players you are mentioning became stars at Barca unlike at Chelsea where they were ready made world beaters before joining

Deco, a ucl winner became a star at Barca but carvalho was already a top player when it is Lampard huh or is it eto who was scoring for fun for both Mallorca and Cameroon or is it Ronaldinho, a World Cup winner, who knocked out England with a sublime free kick. Tell that to a ten year old child. Marquez, Henry, Ibra, van brokhoust..,

raumdeuter:


Shut up you obese Arrow

Those 30+ men made the CL quarters and lost in extra time to Barca Lampard got to Chelsea and suddenly Chelsea is losing to Vikings and Hapoel Telaviv

Mugu, the previous season before Lampard arrived, the team went out to St Gallen in UEFA Cup.

1999/2000 when they got to UCL quarters was the last of the 1997 team. Lampard arrived 2 seasons later.

Hapoel Tel Aviv loss when Lampard arrived was because senior players refused to travel to Israel after Israeli minister was assassinated. It was mostly youth team players that played that match.

Debroslink:


1st, I don't discuss Boateng

2nd, Iniesta at 22 had more impact than Ronaldinho in our UCL win against Arsenal.

3rd, Iniesta won the league title without Messi or Xavi beside him in 2 different full seasons.

4th, Ronaldinho was a Madrid reject when he joined Barca. He wasn't a superstar then.

5th, Lampard would have been a nobody without Abramovich's billions. Show me the titles he won without Abramovich's money.

Ronaldinho was rejected due to some non footballing reason. so that doesn't hold water here. If he wasn't good enough barca won't have convinced him to join after he had already agreed to join Man Utd.

I guess the final match against arsenal was the only game barca played to win the UCL that year.

Ibime:


You are very foolish. Iniesta was a substitute in that final . Iniesta the sub had more impact than Ronaldinho? Why not Henrik Larsson or Belletti. Please remind me where Iniesta charted in WPOTY that year when Ronaldinho was winning and Lampard second? Fool.

Iniesta won the league with Ronaldinho the best player in the world, Eto the best striker, Deco the best midfielder, Suarez the best striker, Neymar the best winger not named Messi or Ronaldo. You must be very stewpid claiming Iniesta did something without Xavi or Messi when all the players I just mentioned are better than anything Lampard ever played with even in Romans team. What you need to do is show us what Iniesta won with Albacete, mugu.

1st, Instead of trading insult, why not show me what Ronaldinho did in the full 90 mins? And I'll tell you that Iniesta orchestrated our equalizer.

2nd, I think it is very phoolish of you to ask what Iniesta as a 10 year old child won @ Albacete

3rd, you called Deco best midfielder, but I didn't see him in Balon D'or podium. That's to tell you that Iniesta was the future then. That's why we sold him to your club and retained Iniesta.

Did Iniesta win the league without Messi or Ronaldinho or Eto'o or Xavi?

YES HE DID!

Did Lampard win titles without Abramovich's billions?

Debroslink:


Did Iniesta win the league without Messi or Ronaldinho or Eto'o or Xavi?

The money spent on your education was a waste.

Tell me the season Iniesta mutually and exclusively won the league without these players mentioned? If it wasn't Ronaldinho, it was Messi.

From 2006 to 2008 when Ronaldinho dropped his level to Drogba level, tell me what Iniesta contributed to his team. Without Ronaldinho and pre-Messi becoming the best player, what did Iniesta contribute? Was his 3 goals and 3 assists per season then enough to stop him being bitchslapped by Mamadou Diarra, Emerson and co?

Do not ever compare a difference maker to a carryalong eunoch.

Iniesta has never for one season played without several top 5 Balon Dor players in his team. Lampard was the only top 5 Balon Dor player in his team. Do not compare khaki with leather.


The worst team Iniesta ever played in is better than the best team Lampard ever played in so I don't know what crap you keep talking about Romans billions.

When Ronaldinho dropped his level from 2006 to 2008, Guti was bitchslapping Iniesta into 3rd place in la liga. What was his contribution then?

hensben:
Deco, a ucl winner became a star at Barca but carvalho was already a top player when it is Lampard huh or is it eto who was scoring for fun for both Mallorca and Cameroon or is it Ronaldinho, a World Cup winner, who knocked out England with a sublime free kick. Tell that to a ten year old child. Marquez, Henry, Ibra, van brokhoust..,

Etoo was not a top 5 striker in the world, Ronaldinhos career was just stagnant before going to Barca where he exploded. What did Ibra achieve at Barca

Ibime:


Mugu, the previous season before Lampard arrived, the team went out to St Gallen in UEFA Cup.

1999/2000 when they got to UCL quarters was the last of the 1997 team. Lampard arrived 2 seasons later.

Hapoel Tel Aviv loss when Lampard arrived was because senior players refused to travel to Israel after Israeli minister was assassinated. It was mostly youth team players that played that match.

players refused to travel fat Ibime said yet the Chelsea lineup that faced Hapoel in Israel had Babayaro Hasselbaink, Zola, Lampard, Terry Zenden Melchiot

When Chelsea lost to Vikings This was the 11 that played
Cudicini, Huth, Gallas, Terry, Le Saux, Stanic, Lampard, Petit, Gronkjaer, Zola, Hasselbaink

raumdeuter:


players refused to travel fat Ibime said yet the Chelsea lineup that faced Hapoel in Israel had Babayaro Hasselbaink, Zola, Lampard, Terry Zenden Melchiot

Name the rest of the players. For example, the starting centreback was even one Ugandan boy that was playing nonleague football one year later. Can't remember his name. Kitamire or something like that.

Zenden was a fat unfit substitute, Stanic was just returning from ACL, and Terry was still a youth team player - that was his first full season and he only became part of the team later that year.

raumdeuter:


Etoo was not a top 5 striker in the world, Ronaldinhos career was just stagnant before going to Barca where he exploded. What did Ibra achieve at Barca

Eto was top striker in Europe and Balon Dor 3rd place in his 1st season in Barca.

Iniesta has never played a season without several Balon Dor contestants in his team. Lampard was the only Balon Dor contestant in his team.

The worst team Iniesta played in is better than the best team Lampard ever played in. FACT.

raumdeuter:


Etoo was not a top 5 striker in the world, Ronaldinhos career was just stagnant before going to Barca where he exploded. What did Ibra achieve at Barca

Why you always like to shift post like this ehn. What ibra achieved or if he was a top player then? Ronaldinho was one of the most wanted player after his exploit in 2002 wc. Eto who walked into Barca IV wasn't a top player but drogba who was benched when he first came to CFC was a top player right. Continue.

Ibime:


Name the rest of the players. For example, the starting centreback was even one Ugandan boy that was playing nonleague football one year later. Can't remember his name. Kitamire or something like that.

Zenden was a fat unfit substitute, Stanic was just returning from ACL, and Terry was still a youth team player - that was his first full season and he only became part of the team later that year.

Those are 7 players I listed by the time you add Stanic to it thats 8. vs an Israeli team. ANd Fat Frank was giving the excuse of not having first team members Basically without ROman billions Fat Frank is useless

Mehn, You people ehn.