ianSweet:


Pls, what is the % population of muslims in Kenya? Which ethnic groups are muslims in Kenya?

something about 11.1%. Mainly Somalis, Coastal people are a mix of Christianity and Islam, so no specific tribe here, yes, and the Borana Oromos.

@muafrica2 and mtumsuper you are mistaken that our recent elections were a tribal gangup between the Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba against goodluck Jonathan. The regions Jonathan lost in 2015 he won in 2011 (except for.two northern regions). Now for convenience of politics Nigeria is usually divided into six geographical regions namely north west, north east, north central, south west, south east and south south.
NW
This zone consists of jigawa, Kaduna, Kano, Katsina, kebbi, sokoto and zamfara state. This region is president buhari's home state Katsina. They are almost all Hausa/Fulani and Muslim here so it's no brainer they would vote for buhari.
NE
This has Adamawa, Bauchi, bornu, gombe, taraba and yobe state. Though there is a Muslim majority this zone is quite ethnically diverse with tribes like the kanuris, Fulanis, jukuns, safewas to mention a few. Here I guess you can say religion and some tribal sentiments might have influenced votes for buhari but goodluck's mishandling of the boko Haram crises certainly helped his cause.
NC
This consists of Benue, kogi, Kwara, nasarrawa, niger and plateau state. This is the most ethnically diverse zone of the country with tribes like Nupe, igala, tiv, idoma, berom, igbirra, gbagyi, igede, Yoruba among hundreds with a sizeable Hausa/Fulani population. In this zone there was no clear advantage for either candidate ethnic or religious wise. Jonathan won this zone comfortably in 2011 but lost it slimly to buhari in 2015.
SW
Ekiti, Lagos, ogun, ondo, osun and Oyo state Almost exclusively Yoruba with sizeable Igbo, Hausa, ijaw communities. Voted overwhelming for Jonathan in 2011 but choose buhari also by a slim margin in 2015 due to goodluck's poor performance. You might say it was because a Yoruba man was running mate to buhari but a Yoruba man was also his running Mate in 2011 when he lost.
SE
Abia, anambra, ebonyi, enugu, imo state Predominantly Igbo voted massively for Jonathan not because they liked him per se but buhari represented all they disliked and distrust in a Hausa/Fulani Muslim.
SS
Another ethnically diverse region containing akwa ibom, bayelsa, cross river, delta, Edo and rivers state dominated by former president Jonathan's ijaw tribe and others like Bini, urhobo, itsekiri, isoko, ogoni, Efik, Ibibio, ikwerre, ogoja and some Igbo communities among others. The people identified with goodluck as a fellow minority and voted for him massively.
In conclusion yes candidates might have been voted for because of ethnic or religious sentiments (which election isn't like that) but generally speaking the Nigerian electorate made their choice devoid of those factors

Muafrika2:

Nigerians are not open to entertainment from other African countries. We listen to music from all over the place, watch all kinds of African movies


Diversity is not so bad at times, it gives more people an opportunity to grow. But we do consume alot of productions shared around East Africa. Music, TV programmes, etc

Your population comes to your advantage here. There is a big market within your borders and local productions sell more at home.


French? Didn't know that

I've seen some west African movies spoken in french. Sometimes I can't tell if it's Nigerians. Someone tell those people to enlarge their English titles. They are such a strain Ghanaians are similar to Nigerians in their productions. I love their movies. They've got some good actors too.

No pls dont say that. We are opened to other African entertainment industries just that ours is so powerful that you have to be extra good (better than us) in order to attract our attention.

Take for instance, during the mid 90's to the early 2000's when congolese music dominated Africa, almost every Nigerian home purchased congolese makosa and soukous music, this was the major music used in Nigerian occasions, clubs and what have u. Infact till date i have not recovered from my love for congolese music. I really wonder what happened to the mighty Congo that made Nigerian music now to take over Africa. I really wish Congo recovers and battle Nigeria for their lost music domination over the African continent.

There were also some periods when Ghanaian music dominated Nigerian markets. Their movies too are very well watched in Nigeria even till date, but it is declining sha because Nigerian producers and musicians are really taking over completely and making strides by the day.

It's just like telling Americans that they do not watch or listen to movies/music outside Hollywood. Believe me, u have to give them a very good reason to do so because their own producers and musicians give them almost everything you can offer and even more.

French was declared Nigeria's second official language by late Sani Abacha, a former military ruler of Nigeria due to pressure from Ecowas. We learn french in our secondary schools, but it was not enforced as it should be by subsequent administrations. I wish it was cos we live in perpetual isolation with our french speaking neighbours.
Most Nigerians also feel French lang has nothing to offer them and i don't think they are wrong. See how terrible francophone countries are doing in Africa.

I myself speak French to a considerable extent.

ianSweet:


Pls, what is the % population of muslims in Kenya? Which ethnic groups are muslims in Kenya?

around 9-15%. Somalis and Swahili people's are overwhelming Muslim. i mean totally. I have met real life Somali Christians also. isn't that odd ?

ianSweet:


Pls make no mistakes. The kind of yoruba-igbo hatred you see on nairaland is no applicable in real everyday Nigerian life. I just don't know how that of nairaland evolved.
It is there no doubt, but not as intense as you see it on nairaland. Yorubas and Igbos have never clashed in real life.
The people who yorubas and igbos have clashed with in real life battles are the Hausas. Yorubas and igbos are more educated and have been heavily influenced by christianity unlike the Hausas and fulanis.

The guy will soon bring another online source he believes better.

naijalander:
The Hausa and Fulanis share larger numbers in the Nigerian army so I think they run the country. And they are full of aristocratic ideals; they are also strictly Muslim and have Arab-Berber affiliations.

And by the way the North has a lot of tribal nationalities especially in Kaduna South, the Christians amongst them (some of them migrant Southerners [Igbo, Erik, Ibibio, Yoruba, Ijaw, Ikwerre, Edo, etc.] ) bear the brunt of Jihadist reactions to spreaching the gospel, last year a woman in the outskirts of Abuja (the capital!) was beheaded for preaching publicly every morning, you know how zealous some Christians get. But all in all, it's all good, it just gets bad when someone tries to out do the other one. So the idea is that the core Norah has not separated Church from State, they apply Sharia law in some states and they want it entrenched in the constitution.

The problem in the South is corruption and stupidity.

Exactly brother. The north also has many ethnic groups. Infact northern Nigeria is more ethnically diverse than southern Nigeria but the problem is that ignorance allows most of u southernerns to conclude that all northernerns are the same.
99% of Southerners for instance do not know that states like Adamawa, Taraba and Kaduna for instance have over 50 ethnic groups each and that most of them are even Christians.
The hausas and fulani elders during colonial times connived with the british colonialists to supress these northern christian minorities and use them to their own political advantage.

So many southernerns were shocked when they discovered that 99% of the chibok girls were indigenous northern christians from Borno state. Even from the core north, Chibok LGA in Borno state is overwhemingly christian but most southerners will not hesitate to generalize them as hausa muslims.

chrisooblog:
@muafrica2 and mtumsuper you are mistaken that our recent elections were a tribal gangup between the Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba against goodluck Jonathan. The regions Jonathan lost in 2015 he won in 2011 (except for.two northern regions). Now for convenience of politics Nigeria is usually divided into six geographical regions namely north west, north east, north central, south west, south east and south south.
NW
This zone consists of jigawa, Kaduna, Kano, Katsina, kebbi, sokoto and zamfara state. This region is president buhari's home state Katsina. They are almost all Hausa/Fulani and Muslim here so it's no brainer they would vote for buhari.
NE
This has Adamawa, Bauchi, bornu, gombe, taraba and yobe state. Though there is a Muslim majority this zone is quite ethnically diverse with tribes like the kanuris, Fulanis, jukuns, safewas to mention a few. Here I guess you can say religion and some tribal sentiments might have influenced votes for buhari but goodluck's mishandling of the boko Haram crises certainly helped his cause.
NC
This consists of Benue, kogi, Kwara, nasarrawa, niger and plateau state. This is the most ethnically diverse zone of the country with tribes like Nupe, igala, tiv, idoma, berom, igbirra, gbagyi, igede, Yoruba among hundreds with a sizeable Hausa/Fulani population. In this zone there was no clear advantage for either candidate ethnic or religious wise. Jonathan won this zone comfortably in 2011 but lost it slimly to buhari in 2015.
SW
Ekiti, Lagos, ogun, ondo, osun and Oyo state Almost exclusively Yoruba with sizeable Igbo, Hausa, ijaw communities. Voted overwhelming for Jonathan in 2011 but choose buhari also by a slim margin in 2015 due to goodluck's poor performance. You might say it was because a Yoruba man was running mate to buhari but a Yoruba man was also his running Mate in 2011 when he lost.
SE
Abia, anambra, ebonyi, enugu, imo state Predominantly Igbo voted massively for Jonathan not because they liked him per se but buhari represented all they disliked and distrust in a Hausa/Fulani Muslim.
SS
Another ethnically diverse region containing akwa ibom, bayelsa, cross river, delta, Edo and rivers state dominated by former president Jonathan's ijaw tribe and others like Bini, urhobo, itsekiri, isoko, ogoni, Efik, Ibibio, ikwerre, ogoja and some Igbo communities among others. The people identified with goodluck as a fellow minority and voted for him massively.
In conclusion yes candidates might have been voted for because of ethnic or religious sentiments (which election isn't like that) but generally speaking the Nigerian electorate made their choice devoid of those factors

Oga chrisooblog .Your arguments about the NW, NE, SS and SE negate our opinion. We have been on nairaland long enough to know a thing or two. See @Muafrika2 post on ethnic map of Nigeria and voting pattern for to see what i mean. BTw i detest these patterns. I have argued on Ghana, Angola and Nigeria. Kenya is not exempt.

MtuMsuper:

Akwaaba to this thread. Now,may i ask you to weigh in with regard to the actual title of the thread. Your contribution is welcome

I've not been to Nigeria and I've not been to Kenya. But Kenya would be my first east African country to visit . I can't judge from the internet but I find Nairobi to be more livable considering how I live my life and how I want it to be.

ianSweet:


Exactly brother. The north also has many ethnic groups. Infact northern Nigeria is more ethnically diverse than southern Nigeria but the problem is that ignorance allows most of u southernerns to conclude that all northernerns are the same.
99% of Southerners for instance do not know that states like Adamawa, Taraba and Kaduna for instance have over 50 ethnic groups each and that most of them are even Christians.
The hausas and fulani elders during colonial times connived with the british colonialists to supress these northern christian minorities and use them to their own political advantage.

So many southernerns were shocked when they discovered that 99% of the chibok girls were indigenous northern christians from Borno state. Even from the core north, Chibok LGA in Borno state is overwhemingly christian but most southerners will not hesitate to generalize them as hausa muslims.

We also wept for chibok girls. may the ones who departed us rest their souls in peace.

ianSweet:


Exactly brother. The north also has many ethnic groups. Infact northern Nigeria is more ethnically diverse than southern Nigeria but the problem is that ignorance allows most of u southernerns to conclude that all northernerns are the same.
99% of Southerners for instance do not know that states like Adamawa, Taraba and Kaduna for instance have over 50 ethnic groups each and that most of them are even Christians.
The hausas and fulani elders during colonial times connived with the british colonialists to supress these northern christian minorities and use them to their own political advantage.

So many southernerns were shocked when they discovered that 99% of the chibok girls were indigenous northern christians from Borno state. Even from the core north, Chibok LGA in Borno state is overwhemingly christian but most southerners will not hesitate to generalize them as hausa muslims.

The southerner see them as hausa for the same reason you mentioned. The are so diverse that they need another language that must be spoken generally by all in other to relate/ communicate with one another and they adopted hausa. So if southerners see them all as hausa is not their fault. Take Plateau state as an example and you will understand what am talking about.

Kenyanstar:


This is my own personal opinion & experience when going to Uganda an EAC country from Kenya.
My home town Eldoret is 130 kilometers from the Kenya-Uganda border town of Malaba.
The immigration office is situated right at the border of both countries.
The major language is Swahili followed by English and other tribal languages.
Movement within Malaba border towns is free and enjoys almost zero restrictions.
The unit of currency used is either the Kenyan Shilling which retails at 1 Kenyan shilling to 38 Ugandan Shilling.
Taxation on goods is minimal except on imported container goods from the port of Mombasa.



This horn of Africa countries are majorly Semitic and mainly have suffered the vulgarities of war & conflicts between each other that have made it impossible to partake of a common union. Ethiopia- Eritrea war, Ethiopia- Djibouti war, Ethiopia- Somalia war, South Sudan- Sudan war etc.


The idea was mainly to have a single currency unit, on the issue of single country is almost totally impossible due to African leaders greed.
In terms of speaking swahili the language has been able to spread far and wide due to the presence of different nationals from various east and eastern African countries in the EAC countries. Swahili is a Bantu language spoken in Tanzania, Burundi, Congo (Kinshasa) Kenya, Mayotte, Mozambique, Oman , Burundi, Rwanda, Somalia, South Africa, Comoros, Uganda, UAE and the USA. Around 5 million people speak Swahili as a native language, and a further 135 million speak is as a second language. The S. Sudanese nationals numbering over a million in Kenya and Uganda who were displaced by war have exported the language back to S. Sudan and also the presence of thosands of Kenyan businessmen in Juba.
Rwanda adopted the language due to the common border they share with Tanzania, Congo also has a large majority of the Northern part of it who speak swahili as they share a common border with Tanzania.
Somalis who have lived in Kenya are also prime exporters of the language to Southern Somali and parts of the central Somalia.
Northern Mozambique and Zanzibar are the other countries that speak Swahili albeit with different accents

Very nice explanation. I have really been enlightened.
I really commend Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda for maintaining relatively peaceful political borders compared to their neighbours (Congo, Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia e.t.c). This has really helped u guys become very influential in that East African axis. This is why i really wished to see a greater co-operation between these 3 East African countries but unfortunately as u said, greed may never allow African leaders to take some certain decisions for the benefit of the masses.

Those Horn Africans really have a problem and until they sit and re-examine themselves they would always remain where they are. Their problem if u ask me is a false sense of pride and superiority due to their very rich history in the past. Somalis for instance are quite terrible, you don't want to know what most of them think about other black Africans. Most horn Africans even deny being black africans and they want to be Arab by all means. This is very sickening.

Just30:
I've not been to Nigeria and I've not been to Kenya. But Kenya would be my first east African country to visit . I can't judge from the internet but I find Nairobi to be more livable considering how I live my life and how I want it to be.

Amen brother. I appreciate an honest opinion. Likewise, i pray am sent on a mission to Ghana soon. I want to see Akosombo dam first. personal reasons.

MtuMsuper:

Oga chrisooblog .Your arguments about the NW, NE, SS and SE negate our opinion. We have been on nairaland long enough to know a thing or two. See @Muafrika2 post on ethnic map of Nigeria and voting pattern for to see what i mean. BTw i detest these patterns. I have argued on Ghana, Angola and Nigeria. Kenya is not exempt.

Even the map he posted was wrong. Jonathan won Ekiti state which is a South Western state. Idoma is in just benue state and not the rubbish your map stated. Their are many irregularities on the map.


You can never judge Nigeria base on what you read online. Igbos and Yorubas have being living together before independence without any know record of fighting each other.

MtuMsuper:

Okaaay!! I prayed for a Ghanaian and here he is. God is good and great all the time and always. Akwaaba. Just to be very clear, i am on your side in the jollof rice war. By the way, did you know we have naturalized kenyans of Ghana origin right here in Kenya?

I have no idea but it's good. I know of a few Kenyans who are married to Ghanaians

mkenya254:


It is hard to know since there are 42 different communities. But here are some stereotypes that are very popular and most of the times true according to Kenyans.

The Luo are the most flamboyant community particularly the men. Dress nicely and drive the nicest cars regardless to the situation of their wallets and most of the ones in cities only speak English. They are usually well built and are perhaps the darkest community in Kenya.

The Luhyia are the most heavily built group and everyone jokes about how they like to eat. They contribute the largest number of players on our national rugby team. There is a joke that a Luhyia never gets full, it's the food that usually finishes. Their men are rumored to be the best in bed and their women usually have the behinds that Kenya is known for... Lol. Usually dark but not anywhere near the Luo

The Kikuyu. The most business minded community and the richest community. Everyone says they love money way too much.. Lol. You will find them running majority of the large businesses across all areas in Kenya. Make for good business partners but when crossed will go to all ends of the earth to exact revenge. Majority are light skinned.

The Kalenjins. Probably 90% of the athletes you have seen from Kenya marathon etc come from here. They are tall and dark. They also make up for majority of the army and the police and any comedian mimicking the police will use a Kalenjins accent

The Kambas. Rumored to have the best women in bed. It is very rare to see a dark Kamba. Men are famous for poor taste in fashion with too much passion on bright colors especially yellow for some weird reason.

The Maasai. Tall and light skinned usually. Their women especially the ones that live in the city are the model types because they are very tall and slender. Very similar to Samburu and Borana.

The Taita and other coastal tribes. Rumored to make for the best wife material since they are arguably the best cooks and the most beautiful. Generally light in color and love making is only rivaled by Kamba women.

The Meru and Kisii. Very similar though they live in totally different geographical areas. Most famous for their short temper and are definitely not one to cross on a personal level. I come from one of these though.. Hehe

Ok great.
I think Kenyans are good looking especially your women, but i think we Nigerians look better.
Nigerian fulanis have some of the most facially beautiful women in Africa.
Igbos have some of the most facially handsome men in Africa. They are also very muscular in stature.
For the yorubas in Nigeria, for physical features they are known for dark beauties and their ladies are usually voluptious.
Although every tribe in Nigeria will always argue that they are more beautiful and handsome than each other. LoL.

Kenyanstar:

Kiswahili is a compulsory subject in all schools both oral and in literature form. Any person that has gone to school in Kenya has no option but to undertake swahili.


Maasais in Kenya mainly in urban centers speak swahili, thou Maasai are the most deeply inclined in their culture they are adopting swahili in their daily lives coz its the main spoken language everywhere in Kenya.


KITOGO-
KIDOGO- Little
WEWE- You
MTOTO- Child or slang for hot girl
MDOGO- Small

Great!

Just30:
I have no idea but it's good. I know of a few Kenyans who are married to Ghanaians

When our country gained independence, our first chief justice was a man of Ghanaian origin.

MtuMsuper:

When our country gained independence, our first chief justice was a man of Ghanaian origin.

yea gone were the days whereby we had extremely good civil servants in the majority. I know about the 20 civil servants that were sent to help in training the Kenyan civil service . We as Africans institutions of state are up and doing again

ianSweet:


Well, at least u should be able to guess.
One of u just claimed that you guys are divided into cushites, nilotes, bantus e.t.c and the physical features are glaringly different.
If it'd were to be Nigerians i can give a very close guess where they're likely to b from

I told you Kenyans come in different sizes, shapes and colour. What does it matter how they look?

Mr mtumsuper you need to study the history of Nigerian elections before you can conclude on anything. Check out our election results from 1999 till date and match them with that so called ethnic map. Our electoral system is structured to prevent the scenarios you are trying to paint. No candidate in Nigeria can win purely relying on his or her ethnic base. One would need to reach out to other regions to stand a chance to win

MtuMsuper:

Oga chrisooblog .Your arguments about the NW, NE, SS and SE negate our opinion. We have been on nairaland long enough to know a thing or two. See @Muafrika2 post on ethnic map of Nigeria and voting pattern for to see what i mean. BTw i detest these patterns. I have argued on Ghana, Angola and Nigeria. Kenya is not exempt.

ianSweet:


Yes i get it well.
So why does Kenya and Uganda not promote swahili like Tanzania? I guess this is the reason why it seems like Tanzanians have a greater mastery over the language and sing more melodious musics in it?

They can sing all they want. Almost everything they use is made in Kenya, let them sing. I thought you were trying to educate yourself about East Africa!

MtuMsuper:

First things first, your change in tone is welcome. I hope it lasts. I welcome anyone who chooses to learn, am a free education activist in my spare time.
Now to your question regarding EAC: It has always been the most successful sub regional organization in Africa (better than SADC which is a South African dominated entity and true integration a mirage:see how they treat Zimbabweans). In terms of its successes its down to a close cooperation between Uganda,Rwanda and Kenya. Tanzania is the major stumbling block as they are constantly filibustering and quarter backing to use an American phraseology. They are never pro active and belong to both SADC and EAC. Some say they are too east to be southern Africa and not southern enough anyway. Free movement between Uganda and Kenya is possible whereby i can go to Uganda with my national ID and a Ugandan only needs a voters ID to cross into Kenya. Many of our tribes are similar too hence we even look like Ugandans. Very close cooperation between Rwanda and Kenya to the extent that kenyan teachers are overwhelmingly preferred there due to an image that kenyan teachers are hard workers and strict. Remember the borders were drawn in Berlin in 1884!
I think ECOWAS doesn't work because the vast majority of west Africa countries are francophone and firmly under the thumb of Paris under that disgusting system called francafrique. They cannot exercise free decision making and the language barrier is a hindrance.

Ps the proper term to use is kiswahili not Swahili (the word Swahili is an adjective, hence terms like Swahili cuisine or architecture ). Our Tanzanian brethren love to parade this fallacy that they "own" the language. Its origins lie along the loooong stretch of coast from kismayu in Somalia to sofala in Mozambique. What is not in doubt however us that it's a bantu language in syntax and structure. Loan words are plenty even in English. There are several dialects such as kiamu(from Lamu), kimvita(Mombasa), chimiini(southern Somalia ), kitumbatu and kiunguja(Zamazibar), Comoros kiswahili. Kiswahili was standardized in 1848 and used the template of the Zanzibar dialect known as kiunguja as its dialect. I guess you can say the language situation of kiswahili is akin to that of German where there are several dialects and they also standardized theirs using Prussian as the main stem. I think Hausa also has several dialects, which one is the central or standard?
There are two councils that regulate the tongue known as baraza la kiswahili(kenya) and chama cha kiswahili (Tanzania ). It's only in Kenya however you can obtain a PhD in kiswahili, hence any doctor of kiswahili must have been trained in Kenya, to the eternal chagrin of our neighbors.
I am not so much into commentary regarding music but the musical flavors you listen to are African, not middle eastern, you most definitely heard of taarab music which i personally enjoy because the women singing them poke nasty jabs at each other.

Ok, splendid elucidation.
What you said about francophone countries is so true. How can these people allow France to control their lives like this even to this present day? It's really sickening. No wonder they are very backwards compared to Anglophone countries.
However, i think Ecowas is working as well if not better than EAC. In the aspect of peace keeping Ecowas is doing well. You can see what is happening in Gambia, if it degenrates any further, expect to see Ecowas armed forced invading the country and overthrowing Yahaya Jammeh. You can see how Ecowas played a great role in the last Malian and Ivorian political instabilities.

Free movement is allowed all over West Africa for west Africans.
Economic integration is the only aspect we seem not have made progress as such.

I think Kenyans and Ugandans truly look more alike than Tanzanians do with any of u. But personally i seem to love Tanzanians so much and i really can't say why. Maybe it's because of their music and good looks, but i'd say i think Tanzanians appear friendlier, warmer and more social than Kenyans and Ugandans, or am i wrong?
U Kenyans really seem to be complaining about Tanzania's policies. I think i'd really like to hear their own side of the story.
I think it's a good thing u Kenyans have playmate neighbours. We Nigerians do not.

How do Kenyans and Rwandans get along considering the language differences?

MtuMsuper:

around 9-15%. Somalis and Swahili people's are overwhelming Muslim. i mean totally. I have met real life Somali Christians also. isn't that odd ?

Hmm, muslims are quite small in Kenya. Just like South-south and South-east Nigeria where muslims are barely up to 3 % in each zones.

ianSweet:




I think Kenyans and Ugandans truly look more alike than Tanzanians do with any of u. But personally i seem to love Tanzanians so much and i really can't say why. Maybe it's because of their music and good looks, but i'd say i think Tanzanians appear friendlier, warmer and more social than Kenyans and Ugandans, or am i wrong?
U Kenyans really seem to be complaining about Tanzania's policies. I think i'd really like to hear their own side of the story.
I think it's a good thing u Kenyans have playmate neighbours. We Nigerians do not.

How do Kenyans and Rwandans get along considering the language differences?

You need to stop. I understand your obsession with looks but in East Africa we are raised better. Stop classifying us on looks, that's an extremely shallow mindset.Okay?

Kenya has 3 major language groups ianSweets. Bantus, Cushites and Nilotes. Tanzania has 2, Bantu and Nilotes. Uganda has 2, nilotes and Bantus. Bantus from these three countries will look like one another. Nilotes will look similar. A Bantu from somewhere in Kenya looks similar to a Bantu in Uganda or in Tanzania or any other Bantu country. Nilotes will look similar too, countries are just physical boundaries not cultural boundaries my sister. Like the Masai are in Kenya and Tanzania, Kuria are in Kenya and Tanzania, Luos in Kenya and Tanzania. Karamajong and Teso are in Kenya and Uganda. Somali are in Kenya, Ethiopia and Somalia. Oromo in Ethiopia and Kenya etc. There is no constant look for a country.
But Tanzanians are nicer generally and polite when you compare them to Kenya. Tanzanians are less aggressive compared to Kenyans. Actually they dont like Kenyans and coz Kenyans are capitalistic in nature. They actually call Kenyans thieves. Thats why they are opposed to the idea of a unified one country. They fear their jobs, business, culture will be ruined by Kenyans

iblawi:


I wonder how Kenyans sit thousands of kilometers away and feel they know what's happening in West Africa. Even in Nigeria you most win 2/3 of the states before you are declared winner. It's not just about simple majority.

North Central Nigerians are not Hausa.
In this region you will find:
Yoruba and Fulani dominate Kwara state.
Igbira, igala and Yoruba dominate Kogi state.
Tiv, and idoma dominate Benue state.
Lantang, etc in Plateau state.
Gwari, nupe etc Niger state
Igbira Toto, Gwari etc Nasarawa state.


In the South South
Yoruba, Benin, Estako, Esan dominate Edo state.
Ijaw, istekiri, Irobo, etc in Delta state.
Ijaw, nembe etc Bayelsa state.
Calabar people in Cross river state.
Calabar in Akwa Ibom state.
Ijaw, etc still in Rivers state.

South West region is Yoruba second largest tribe by population and landmass.

South East is Igbo third largest tribe by population and landmass.

North West mainly Hausa/ Fulani

North East mainly Hausa /Fulani.


How did Kenyans come up with their useless assumption?

Please, stop this misinformation already.
I understand you are Yoruba and is trying to place your group in good light. I am Igbo and my allegiance lie with my Igbo nation only.

There have never been an ethnic census in Nigeria.
The only ethnic estimates we have are those left by the British, and it placed the Igbos as the second largest ethnic group in Nigeria, second only to the Hausa-Fulani.

https://www.nairaland.com/3400415/1931-population-figures-nigerian-ethnic

The very idea of Yoruba being more populated than Igbos is a Post civil war Yoruba media propaganda that had been left unchallenged all those years by Ndiigbo, because we were more concerned with the business of survival, after our civil war loss.

Desist from spreading this poisonous propaganda and blatant falsehood in the future.

And yes, Muafrica, you are 100% right.

Nigeria is an ethnically divided colonial entity, where everything done is reflected by tribal
allegiance and identity.



Contrary to the false picture the Yoruba One Nigeria apologists are painting here, elections in Nigeria are always tribally determined.

And Yes, the Yorubas media ganged up with the Northerners in the Nigerian last election to boot out GEJ, a president , from a minority group known as Ogbia, because they felt he was too pro Igbo and was destroying the anti Igbo order of things, the Yorubas and their Northern friends set, after the Igbos lost the Civil war.

This is the ICT age, these people Will no longer be allowed to misinform the public with their falsehoods.

pazienza:
And yes, Muafrica, you are 100% right.

Nigeria is an ethnically divided colonial entity, where everything done is reflected by tribal
allegiance and identity.



Contrary to the false picture the Yoruba One Nigeria apologists are painting here, elections in Nigeria are always tribally determined.

And Yes, the Yorubas media ganged up with the Northerners in the Nigerian last election to boot out GEJ, from a minority group known as Ogbia, because they felt he was too pro Igbo and was destroying the anti Igbo order of things, the Yorubas and their Northern friends set, after the Igbos lost the Civil war.

This is the ICT age, these people Will no longer be allowed to misinform the public with their falsehoods.

I see a lot of Ogbo insults and attacks on the media btw. But to be honest the more the hate the more prosperous they will get. Look at the jews

pazienza:


Please, stop this misinformation already.
I understand you are Yoruba and is trying to place your group in good light. I am Igbo and my allegiance lie with my Igbo nation only.

There have never been an ethnic census in Nigeria.
The only ethnic estimates we have are those left by the British, and it placed the Igbos as the second largest ethnic group in Nigeria, second only to the Hausa-Fulani.

The very idea of Yoruba being more populated than Igbos is a Post civil war Yoruba media propaganda that had been left unchallenged all those years by Ndiigbo, because we were more concerned with the business of survival, after our civil war loss.

Desist from spreading this poisonous propaganda and blatant falsehood in the future.

Honestly, a true and proper census should be conducted in Nigeria. We would be very surprised at the outcome of it. Very surprised.

iblawi:


I wonder how Kenyans sit thousands of kilometers away and feel they know what's happening in West Africa. Even in Nigeria you most win 2/3 of the states before you are declared winner. It's not just about simple majority.

North Central Nigerians are not Hausa.
In this region you will find:
Yoruba and Fulani dominate Kwara state.
Igbira, igala and Yoruba dominate Kogi state.
Tiv, and idoma dominate Benue state.
Lantang, etc in Plateau state.
Gwari, nupe etc Niger state
Igbira Toto, Gwari etc Nasarawa state.


In the South South
Yoruba, Benin, Estako, Esan dominate Edo state.
Ijaw, istekiri, Irobo, etc in Delta state.
Ijaw, nembe etc Bayelsa state.
Calabar people in Cross river state.
Calabar in Akwa Ibom state.
Ijaw, etc still in Rivers state.

South West region is Yoruba second largest tribe by population and landmass.

South East is Igbo third largest tribe by population and landmass.

North West mainly Hausa/ Fulani

North East mainly Hausa /Fulani.


How did Kenyans come up with their useless assumption?

You tried my brother, but let me help you out.
Muafrika2, MtuMsuper.

I begin from the

NORTH-EAST ZONE
(a minority dominated zone, with significant fulani population, about 70% muslim, 30% christian, Hausa is the general lingua franca here and many communities here face serious hausanization).

1) Borno state - Kanuris are the major ethnic group here. About 65% of the population. Other major tribes include Bura, Marghi, Kyibaku (chibok), Kanakuru and over a dozen others. About 75% muslim, 25% christian.

2) Yobe state - Kanuris are also the major ethnic group here at about 55% of the population. Other tribes include Bade, Ngizim, Bolewa, Karekare e.t.c. About 90% muslim, 10% christian.

3) Adamawa state - Fulanis are the largest group here but just only about 25% of the population. They have absolute power here because they historically conquered most of the other tribes here and traditionally rule them.
Other major tribes are Bwatiye, Marghi, Higgi, Chamba e.t.c. Christians actually have a slight majority here but muslims (mostly fulanis) will not agree because they have more political and traditional power.

4) Gombe state - Fulanis are also the largest group here at about 35-40% of the state. Other tribes include Tangale, Waja, Bolewa e.t.c. Muslims about 60%, Christians 40% (but most muslims will think it's less and christians will think they are more). Politically the minority tribes dominate the fulanis here.

5) Bauchi state - This state has serious ethnic identity issues because most ethnic groups here are being Hausanized (dropped their ethnic languages for Hausa).
Hausas are not originally native here but they have culturally overran the state together with the fulanis.
Other tribes here who have managed to maintain their identity are the Saya people who are christians. The Nigerian speaker house of reps is from this tribe.
The state is 80-85% muslim and the remainder christian.

6) Taraba state - This is the most ethnically diverse state in Nigeria with over 60 distinct ethnic groups. However the largest are Jukun, Mumuye, Fulani, Chamba, Kuteb e.t.c. This is the only clearly christian dominated state in the north-east where muslims do not domimate politically. It is like 65% christian (muslims will argue it is less while christians think it is more).



NORTH CENTRAL ZONE

This zone is where am from, practically it is supposed to be called Central Nigeria but politics zone us as northernerns. We are the most ethno religiously diverse zone. Over 100 ethnic groups here and almost equal christian and muslim populations. Although the muslims will argue they are more here, the christians will also.
Hausa is used as the lingua franca in 3 of the 6 states here and the FCT.

1) Benue state - Tiv is the major ethnic group here (65%). Others are Idoma and Igede. Overwhemingly christians (over 95%)

2) Niger state - Nupes are the largest group here (40%), others are Gbagyi, Kambari, Dukawa, Shingini and over a dozen others. Hausas and fulanis are also many here, they settled here and through influence of Islamic jihad and coquest in the past assimilated here. The state is about 70% muslim, although muslims will claim they are more.

3) Kogi state (my native state) - Igalas are the largest tribe (40%). Others are Egbirra, Okun (Yoruba subgroup), Bassa e.t.c The state is about half muslims half christians, although muslims will argue that they are more because they have the political upper hand.

4) Plateau state (my home state) - Beroms are the largest tribe here but just merely (15%) of the population, to tell you how ethnically diverse it is. Over 40 other ethnic groups. Christians are the overwhelming majority here (85%) and most muslims here are hausa and fulani settlers.

5) Nasarawa state - Perfectly situated at the centre of Nigeria. Eggon-Madas are the largest ethnic group here (about 40%) of the state. Others are Alago, Gbagyi, Nungu and over a dozen others. Christians have a slight majority here (55%) but muslims will argue because they dominate politically.

6) Kwara state - This state is supposed to be in the southern part of Nigeria because ethnically it is a dominantly yoruba state and South-west Nigeria is the yoruba ethnic zone. It is the same politics of northernization between the hausa-fulani islamic caliphate and british colonialists that made it this way and this has made many of the yoruba speakers here to face ethnic identity crisis due to heavy northernization and islamization. 70% yoruba speaking. Other groups are Nupes, Baribas, Fulanis, e.t.c About 60% muslim, but muslims will argue they are more than 60%.

7) FCT - This is the federal capital territory zone where Abuja is situated and Abuja is dominated by people from all over Nigeria.
However the natives still dominate the countryside and other smaller towns here and the Gbagyis are the major ethnic group (70%), others are Gade, Gbari, Egbirra, Nupe e.t.c Dominantly christians at about (70%).



NORTH-WEST ZONE

No need to break this zone any further. This zone is the predomniantly ethnic Hausa and Hausanized fulani zone, where they form about 85-90% of the population. This zone is overwhemingly muslim (About 90%). It also has a large population (About 45 million).



The southern zones coming next.

PissedYagami:


I see a lot of Ogbo insults and attacks on the media btw. But to be honest the more the hate the more prosperous they will get. Look at the jews

I don't know about the Jewish angle.
But I detest the fact, that these same Igbophobic Nigerians who nearly wiped my people out of the surface of the earth, and there after implemented the most inhuman Post civil war reintegration program on my people, would have the guts to come to public and try to sell the picture Of a tribal harmonious and peaceful Nigeria where everything is Ok.

I call this bullshit, and would not stand and let them have their way.

bigfrancis21:


Honestly, a true and proper census should be conducted in Nigeria. We would be very surprised at the outcome of it. Very surprised.

There is nothing "true and proper" that can ever come out of Nigeria.

What good will an ethnic census do the Igbo now, when these people had used crude oil politics and Post civil war propaganda to divide and balkanize Igboland?

How many of the previously group known as "Western Igboland" will identify as Igbos in a modern Census today? 40% or less, and that's me being generous.