MtuMsuper:

Thanks for the good intro on the peoples of Nigeria. Most Nigerians i have met are igbo. I have ever met only 1 hausa. Several Yoruba people as well and i have a very good Berom friend. We Africans are like that, we like to know about the culture and identity of people who look like us. Unlike many Africans though, i don't have some toxic ethnicity aka tribalism.
Which brings me to my point : its plain foolhardy to say ethnic sentiments did not influence voting patterns in Nigeria. They always do. That's why someone like Salva Kiir(an ethnic Dinka) in South Sudan cannot get votes from a majority Nuer area whose favorite son is his arch nemesis Riek Machar. Its why the northern Ugandan tribes will never put their eggs into Museveni's basket : the resentment from the civil war in which a northern leadership was ousted by museveni still simmers to to this day. It's also why Raila in Kenya cannot get votes from Central Kenya, or Uhuru from luo dominated former nyanza province. The tribesmen of GEJ equally voted overwhelmingly for him, as did other nationalities in the Nigerian SS and SE. There is no doubt that ethnicity and political affiliation are closely related in Africa. Even our dear neighbours ,Tanzania ,had an election in which there was an overwhelming support from the Kilimanjaro tribes such as the chagga, for the opposition party Chadema: the vast majority of opposition Chadema legislators come from the Mt Kilimanjaro region. These things aren't coincidences. Its important to study these correlations in order to understand the political realities of a realm. Heck, even in the USA, whites voted for Trump irrespective of their donkeyness or elephantness. Blacks overwhelmingly gave Hillary Clinton their votes.
We, all of us Africans, have still not learnt the fine art of managing the fact of ethnicity. Instead, we use it negatively. What a shame.

U are very correct. You have said it all.

mkenya254:


The reason why ladies of lighter complexion are more popular by Africans is simply a case of supply and demand. There are more naturally dark ladies than light ones since we are blacks hence a lighter shade is rare and hence more glorified.

I have been to a country like Namibia where most ladies are usually very slim and a lot of men seem to love ladies that are more endowed.

If there is excess supply of one this, people will just want what is rarer and that is just a law of the universe.

As for Lupita, she has been recognized as a most beautiful woman not only because of her looks but because of how she caries herself and what she has achieved. For example I have never heard of the ladies you have mentioned maybe I have seen them but I don't know them but Lupita is a household name. She has won an Oscar, champions for conservation of elephants, has been interviewed in the most popular talk shows in the US(Ellen etc), her dressing options have been discussed so much in Hollywood and has graced the cover of Vogue magazine 3 times which is a feat very many celebrities even American ones have not achieved !! Her speech at the Oscar's has words that have been echoed by so many people. I will quote the last words 'When I look down at this golden statue, may it remind me and every little child that no matter where you’re from, your dreams are valid. Thank you.'

She has won an Oscar. How many Africans have an Oscar on their belt? Even for the entire black race there are so few winners. That is what makes her great. She has a brilliant and very radiant personality that makes her look very sexy. Just listen to one of her interviews and you will know why.

With regards to the Miss World events. I believe it is next to impossible for a light skin African lady to win the title. Why? Because to be honest Portericans and the Latinos would look more beautiful than a light skinned African model. The dark shade also represents authenticity since we are a black race and hence the originality of Africa is represented.

You are quite correct.
However the names i mentioned like Somali's Iman and Nigeria's Genevieve Nnaji, am surprised you don't know them, they are very famous.
They might not have won oscars, the former is the best supermodel from Africa while Genevieve Nnaji is a legend in the Nigerian movie industry.
Lupitia is a Kenyan Mexican, so it is easier for her to win an oscar considering her schooling in America and starring in American movies. We have Nigerians for instance who have won all manners of world awards but most of them were not born in Nigeria.
Both Genevieve and Iman were born in Africa and had only African citizenship, they are far richer than Lupita and even older yet still more beautiful. They are famous in their own ways. Lupita is just opportuned. No doubt, Lupita has self carriage and great virtues, but facially let's be honest, she is not the best definition of black African beauty.

See Iman and Genevieve below and Lupita.

jstbeinhonest:


No, You wont. He is. Why do you ask?.

It's what Yoruba's got out of the alliance

Jeeez .

I know you guys have no idea how much you shout.

Just30:
not at all, we like keeping it tone down

good to know

Muafrika2:

You are funny.

Kenyans also imitate Indians, Chinese, even Kenyan tribes. Just for the fun of it. We have our own street lingo.

We don't hate Nigerians. This is how we express our love

About this:


Very true. This is what we've been telling your fellow ignorant and miseducated countrymen like Iblawi. Please stop spreading this ignorance in here. Just sit back and read

Sorry we are not ignorant of what Kenya is my friend. You guys are the once ignorant of what Nigeria truly is. Too much online jargons on your head.

chrisooblog:
Muafrika2 guy are you arsene Wenger in disguise that you didn't see the other examples I cited anyway historical Yorubas and Igbos have never really voted en bloc like that any election cycle you see us voting the same it's usually circumstantial. 2011 Yorubas choose Jonathan 2015 buhari. 1983,1993 and 2007 Igbos mostly choose Hausa Fulani candidates 2003 Obasanjo.
Please post the profile of buhari's running mate in 2011

Another perspective:
- Fulanis and Hausas only vote for their own.
- Yorubas seem to be the guns for hire.
- Igbos will not vote for Hausa or Fulani candidates

ianSweet:


Don't mind that ignorant guy.
Goodluck won 5 out of the 6 states in North-central and the FCT in 2011, even with his performance which most people complained of, Goodluck still won Plateau and Nasarawa states in 2015. He also won Taraba in 2015 too.
Most northern minorities supported GEJ so much. This proves that politics in Nigeria is not always tribal or religious even though we know that both factors play significant roles.

The annoying thing is they feel they know but they know nothing. Buhari's running mate in 2011 was a Yoruba man and a pastor for that matter. Jonathan was from South south and his running mate was from North West but they still won South West with good margin.

If it was was about tribal or religious stuff the election wouldn't have ended that way.

iblawi:


The annoying thing is they feel they know but they know nothing. Buhari's running mate in 2011 was a Yoruba man and a pastor for that matter. Jonathan was from South south and his running mate was from North West but they still won South West with good margin.

If it was was about tribal or religious stuff the election wouldn't have ended that way.

Stop this South/West/North//Central talk and talk about tribes, 4 in particular. Igbos Yorubas Hausas and Fulanis. We love the smaller tribes but we know those four determine who wins by putting their numbers to use

While you guys are dickmeasuring Africa is dominating the Dakar rally Car class

after stage 1, 4 out of the top 5 vehicles were built in South Africa!!! Both of South Africa's Toyota gazoo SA Toyotas are in the top 5.

As well as another Ford ranger and a Toyota built in SA but operated by foreign teams.

Muafrika2:

Another perspective:
- Fulanis and Hausas only vote for their own.
- Yorubas seem to be the guns for hire.
- Igbos will not vote for Hausa or Fulani candidates

Well history has proven your perspective to be false and untenable

1960-66 Igbo dominated NCNC party entered into alliance with the northern NPC party to form government
1983 Igbos tipped the presidential election in favour of shagari a Hausa Fulani over awolowo a Yoruba man
1993 igbos again voted for a Hausa Fulani man Tofa over a Yoruba Abiola
2007 igbos in partnership with their Hausa Fulani 'enemies' voted for yaradua no prizes for guessing where he's from

Muafrika2:

Stop this South/West/North//Central talk and talk about tribes, 4 in particular. Igbos Yorubas Hausas and Fulanis. We love the smaller tribes but we know those four determine who wins by putting their numbers to use

This is why I said you guys are dumb. Jonathan is Ogbia and Buhari is Fulani. Non of them is igbo, Yoruba or Hausa.

Ignorant fool.

iblawi:


This is why I said you guys are dumb. Jonathan is Ogbia and Buhari is Fulani. Non of them is igbo, Yoruba or Hausa.

Ignorant fool.

You're slow.

Muafrika2:

You're slow.

You are foolish

How did Jonathan put the population of Ogbia to use? Less than 1% of Nigeria's population. Dummy.

chrisooblog:


Well history has proven your perspective to be false and untenable

1960-66 Igbo dominated NCNC party entered into alliance with the northern NPC party to form government
1983 Igbos tipped the presidential election in favour of shagari a Hausa Fulani over awolowo a Yoruba man
1993 igbos again voted for a Hausa Fulani man Tofa over a Yoruba Abiola
2007 igbos in partnership with their Hausa Fulani 'enemies' voted for yaradua no prizes for guessing where he's from

Alright, so Igbos can give their votes to Fulanis and Hausas. I stand corrected. Other than that I believe this post demonstrates the importance of tribe in Nigerian elections.

iblawi:


You are foolish

How did Jonathan put the population of Ogbia to use? Less than 1% of Nigeria's population. Dummy.

He got support from the tribal alliances.

Do I have to spoon feed you with simple logic

Muafrika2:

He got support from the tribal alliances.

Do I have to spoon feed you with simple logic

Please leave me alone and don't quote me again.

iblawi:

Please leave me alone and don't quote me again.

Good riddance

Hope this means you won't be quoting me

ianSweet:


You are not far from the truth. Lighter skinned people tend to be more adored by people in tropical areas. With time i think this trend will change cos take US for instance, many dark skinned people have proven that dark skin can be equally beautiful when well maintained.

But a lot of Africans also appreciate dark skinned people or don't you think? The only black african women to win the miss world and the miss universe titles from Nigeria and Angola werr not light skinned, they were dark to medium chocolate skinned and they were crowned in their respective countries before they went to represent their own countries at the world level. I dont know about Kenya but the current titles of the Miss Nigeria is not held by a light skinned lady.

As for Lupitia i admire her but i think there are dark skinned African and African-american ladies who look better than her, e.g Somalia's Iman, Nigeria's Genevieve Nnaji and many others.

Dark skins, light skins bla bla bla! Redundant arguments. I will stop quoting you when you join the real world.

ianSweet:





You are quite correct.
However the names i mentioned like Somali's Iman and Nigeria's Genevieve Nnaji, am surprised you don't know them, they are very famous.
They might not have won oscars, the former is the best supermodel from Africa while Genevieve Nnaji is a legend in the Nigerian movie industry.
Lupitia is a Kenyan Mexican, so it is easier for her to win an oscar considering her schooling in America and starring in American movies. We have Nigerians for instance who have won all manners of world awards but most of them were not born in Nigeria.
Both Genevieve and Iman were born in Africa and had only African citizenship, they are far richer than Lupita and even older yet still more beautiful. They are famous in their own ways. Lupita is just opportuned. No doubt, Lupita has self carriage and great virtues, but facially let's be honest, she is not the best definition of black African beauty.

See Iman and Genevieve below and Lupita.

Lady, beauty is a very subjective term that has as many interpretations as there are people on planet earth. Your meat, my poison. And that is physical beauty we're talking about here. True beauty on the other hand is all about inner beauty. One's character and personality. And this cannot be faked, its self evident and the only true measure of a human being.

Muafrika2:

Alright, so Igbos can give their votes to Fulanis and Hausas. I stand corrected. Other than that I believe this post demonstrates the importance of tribe in Nigerian elections.

Actually i think my assessment of Nigerian politics is pretty much like that across most African countries i. e stomach infrastructure first, people last. Look at how senior PDP figures trooped to the APC as soon as the latter won. They use political parties as a convenient tool, and not because they are driven by their ideology.

Now you get it

Muafrika2:

It's what Yoruba's got out of the alliance

It wont be absolutely correct to say Yorubas voted Buhari because a Yoruba man was his VP, It sure played a big role in getting yoruba votes tho. So u r quite correct.

However, d popularity of d candidate matters alot. In '11, Buhari ran with a Yoruba man, Bakare -who was more popular than 'Bajo- yet he lost, ACN was d most popular party in d west also had a Yoruba candidate, they lost. Jonah ran with Sambo, a Northerner, yet he won the west by a clear margin. He Was Popular!.

In '15, Jonah became unpopular in d west, Buhari was more popular after his merger with d ACN. So it was a combination of Buharists, ACN Supporters, d Press -which is strong in d west, due to urbanization- & most importantly neutrals who felt Jonah was Clueless & we needed Change.

He still got 40% of western votes & won Ekiti, a state with atleast 90% Yoruba population.

Nigerians hardly display tribalism in public, they need a keyboard.

jstbeinhonest:


It wont be absolutely correct to say Yorubas voted Buhari because a Yoruba man was his VP, It sure played a big role in getting yoruba votes tho. So u r quite correct.

However, d popularity of d candidate matters alot. In '11, Buhari ran with a Yoruba man, Bakare -who was more popular than 'Bajo- yet he lost, ACN was d most popular party in d west also had a Yoruba candidate, they lost. Jonah ran with Sambo, a Northerner, yet he won the west by a clear margin. He Was Popular!.

In '15, Jonah became unpopular in d west, Buhari was more popular after his merger with d ACN. So it was a combination of Buharists, ACN Supporters, d Press -which is strong in d west, due to urbanization- & most importantly neutrals who felt Jonah was Clueless & we needed Change.

He still got 40% of western votes & won Ekiti, a state with atleast 90% Yoruba population.

Nigerians hardly display tribalism in public, they need a keyboard.

All the political parties that came together in 2014 to form APC have their strong hold. ACN was already having lot of supporters in SW, CPC was the main political party for the Northerners, new PDP had lot of support from different states too, etc.

No Matter how hard you try to educate these dummies they still prefer the negative news they read online.

MtuMsuper:

Actually i think my assessment of Nigerian politics is pretty much like that across most African countries i. e stomach infrastructure first, people last. Look at how senior PDP figures trooped to the APC as soon as the latter won. They use political parties as a convenient tool, and not because they are driven by their ideology.

Personality politics. So long as it's "our person. " That's why Africans have a very interesting crop of leaders.

Muafrika2:

Stop this South/West/North//Central talk and talk about tribes, 4 in particular. Igbos Yorubas Hausas and Fulanis. We love the smaller tribes but we know those four determine who wins by putting their numbers to use

U cannot underestimate the power of Nigeria's minority groups. Minority groups make up over 1/3 of Nigeria's population.
About 12-14 of the 36 states in Nigeria and the FCT are dominated by minority groups.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-03/nigeria-could-teach-the-west-a-few-things

Now you see why what the westerner tells you about Nigeria is a lie...That's a guy that was shocked because all the portrayed of Nigeria and contrasting to the reality

iblawi:


All the political parties that came together in 2014 to form APC have their strong hold. ACN was already having lot of supporters in SW, CPC was the main political party for the Northerners, new PDP had lot of support from different states too, etc.

I just feel he is equating the Yorubas to the ACN. Osinbajo being VP was one of the rewards, the ACN got from the merger.

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jstbeinhonest:


I just feel he is equating the Yorubas to the ACN. Osinbajo being VP was one of the rewards, the ACN got from the merger.

Yes ACN got vice president, CPC president and NEW PDP senate president from the new party they formed.

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