referandum:
brotherly mind your bizness oooo.. na hustle we dey


grow your finances here==> http://ziplr.in/PXvCK

Lol... Why have you not grown yours??

The image is more accurate. It's a tribal map of Nigeria

Muafrika2:

And by that long list you are avoiding my question. I just want this:

1. The 36 stastes

2. The majority/dominant tribes in each of those states,

3. WHO the majority votes went to in those states

Looool

mkenya254:


Lol... Why have you not grown yours??

jstbeinhonest:


It wont be absolutely correct to say Yorubas voted Buhari because a Yoruba man was his VP, It sure played a big role in getting yoruba votes tho. So u r quite correct.

However, d popularity of d candidate matters alot. In '11, Buhari ran with a Yoruba man, Bakare -who was more popular than 'Bajo- yet he lost, ACN was d most popular party in d west also had a Yoruba candidate, they lost. Jonah ran with Sambo, a Northerner, yet he won the west by a clear margin. He Was Popular!.

In '15, Jonah became unpopular in d west, Buhari was more popular after his merger with d ACN. So it was a combination of Buharists, ACN Supporters, d Press -which is strong in d west, due to urbanization- & most importantly neutrals who felt Jonah was Clueless & we needed Change.

He still got 40% of western votes & won Ekiti, a state with atleast 90% Yoruba population.

Nigerians hardly display tribalism in public, they need a keyboard.

I beg to differ : this thread summarises it all. Nigeria is a poster child of ethno religious intolerance.Viewer discretion advised. :
https://www.nairaland.com/3554442/chronicles-hausa-fulani-islamists-expansion-southern

naijalander:
The image is more accurate. It's a tribal map of Nigeria

Let me look at them side by side

This guy

I've heard stories about the North and the South having to alternate presidency. How does it work? Especially considering that they have to be elected by popular vote?

Does it mean that the establishment pulls strings to ensure this happens?

jstbeinhonest

Kenyanstar:


THIS IS THE REASON KENYANS VIEW NIGERIANS AS SCAMMERS AND THIEVES.. [font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font][size=8pt][/size][color=#990000][/color]

Well, a shallow generalization. Thieves abound everywhere, we have a share of them too in Nigeria.

naijalander:
The image is more accurate. It's a tribal map of Nigeria

This image is not accurate for the northern and central minority groups. It is completely misrepresenting. I am from that region.

Another question i have for Kenyans here

Pls i want to know, what are Kenyan citizens and the Kenyan govt really doing about these Nairobi slums?

Nairobi slums really appear numerous and quite large for the population of Nairobi and how did these slums evolve?
Makoko the only slum in Lagos which has been demolished started out or was originally a fishing community where most of the population were from Benin republic boundary areas with Nigeria.

I have seen a few pictures of some new mass housing buildings done in Nairobi slums to resettle the slum dwellers but i also heard that some of the resettled slum dwellers sold the comfortable houses they were given and went back to the slums, i mean that's terrible.

KenyanStar, MtuMsuper, PissedYagami, Muafrika2

mkenya254:


First off I will address why I came to this forum. I am here because I have been to Nigeria on business and I am going to be there again on February. So I like being abreast with what is going on there. Security, how I am going to entertain myself etc since I will be there for a while. I have seen several Nigerians on the Kenyan forum as well.

Second, Kenyans do not admire anything about your politics and economics. And I am being honest. African politics is riddled with corruption, greed etc so no one looks upto you on that.

Now entertainment(music and movies) is one this that every African country admires about Nigeria. The industry is very mature and local content production and consumption has been promoted so much. For Kenya we have a lot of imported music even though we have local music. You can listen to Nigerian music, South African Kwaito, Ghanaian music, Congolese music in diverse clubs.

About Kenyans being interested in pidgin English, it's just from your music. The only terms Kenyans know are Oga, Big Broda and that's it. In fact on my first trip to Lagos I thought I knew the gist of pidgin and could easily understand it since it has a lot of English but when I got to Lagos is when I realized it is so deep.

About Nigerians not knowing anything about Kenya while Kenyans know a thing or 2 about Nigeria. In the Kenyan education system, you have to undertake a subject called Social Studies from around age 4-14. There you are taught about majority of the African countries, their history, geography and demography. In fact we learn about your big 3 tribes at around class 7(age 13). And it is not only Nigeria, we learn about Congo, South Africa, Senegal, Mozambique,Zimbabwe etc. And these are tested in the exams. If you don't belive me ask me to send you pictures of some Kenyan textbooks and I will happily oblige. On the high school level if you specialize on History as a subject is gets even deeper

There are things we would like to borrow from you and there are other influences we also do not want borrowed

What brings u to Nigeria specifically? Am curious.

About Nigerian pidgin, i don't think Lagosians even speak real Nigerian pidgin cos yoruba is the street language in many parts of Lagos, and Lagos pidgin is mixed with yoruba a lot.
If u want to hear real Nigerian pidgin, i think you should visit Nigerian cities like Warri, Benin and Port harcourt (south-south Nigeria), where the language originated. This is where you find the best pidgin speakers, many who speak it as a first language and their major language at home, it is fast displacing their native languages over here.
Infact if u hear real Warri Pidgin english, u may not be able to pick a single word out. We just don't have enough movie producers from South-south Nigeria to promote Pidgin language movie industry. So u only hear some good pidgin in our musics. Our govt is not interested in promoting the language if not it would have had a greater international image by now.


On the part of history, even though we offer social studies as a subject from our Primary school levels, i agree that we really do not learn about African peoples and cultures. Only those that offer history as a subject in senior secondary schools have a chance to learning that. I think our educational authorities really need to work on that aspect.

gallivant:


Dark skins, light skins bla bla bla! Redundant arguments. I will stop quoting you when you join the real world.

My sweet, handsome and dearest Kenyan guy I think i have a crush on you ,....... . but why are u always against me dearie?

ianSweet:
Another question i have for Kenyans here

Pls i want to know, what are Kenyan citizens and the Kenyan govt really doing about these Nairobi slums?

Nairobi slums really appear numerous and quite large for the population of Nairobi and how did these slums evolve?
Makoko the only slum in Lagos which has been demolished started out or was originally a fishing community where most of the population were from Benin republic boundary areas with Nigeria.

I have seen a few pictures of some new mass housing buildings done in Nairobi slums to resettle the slum dwellers but i also heard that some of the resettled slum dwellers sold the comfortable houses they were given and went back to the slums, i mean that's terrible.

KenyanStar, MtuMsuper, PissedYagami, Muafrika2

Kibera/Kibra was a land expanse just outside the Nairobi CBD that the British colonial government gifted to Nubian soldiers from Sudan. They had fought for the British in a war and were frequently used against African rebels in colonies.

The problem with the Nubians is that they opted for mud and tin roofs as building materials, paid no attention to social amenities and built rentals which were soon taken up by Africans migrating to the cities from the villages. In addition to the Nubians lands, the railway reserves, lands owned by the Kenya Railway were soon invaded and form part of Kibera.

Well, if you are jobless in a slum, and get a house that could bring in 20 times as much as you earn in rent, would you move into it and continue to starve in the pretty house or would you turn it into a source of income? I would do the later.

Many of them are however renting out the extra bedrooms in their houses while squeezing themselves in the remaining space.

ianSweet:


My sweet, handsome and dearest Kenyan guy I think i have a crush on you ,....... . but why are u always against me dearie?

He's showing you tough love

ianSweet:


My sweet, handsome and dearest Kenyan guy I think i have a crush on you ,....... . but why are u always against me dearie?

dont mind am..if the kenyan mofo doesnt like you..

your nigerian boo boo will always love you...

ianSweet:


This image is not accurate for the northern and central minority groups. It is completely misrepresenting. I am from that region.

What about this? There are hardly any images about Northern minorities. Y'all are so disenfranchised lmao #nooffense

Muafrika2:

He's showing you tough love

Its true. I love that girl.

darknetcom:


dont mind am..if the kenyan mofo doesnt like you..

your nigerian boo boo will always love you...

It's not brotherly to try to scoop away my prize after I put in all the effort. Go and find your own queen.

ianSweet:
Another question i have for Kenyans here

Pls i want to know, what are Kenyan citizens and the Kenyan govt really doing about these Nairobi slums?

Nairobi slums really appear numerous and quite large for the population of Nairobi and how did these slums evolve?
Makoko the only slum in Lagos which has been demolished started out or was originally a fishing community where most of the population were from Benin republic boundary areas with Nigeria.

I have seen a few pictures of some new mass housing buildings done in Nairobi slums to resettle the slum dwellers but i also heard that some of the resettled slum dwellers sold the comfortable houses they were given and went back to the slums, i mean that's terrible.

KenyanStar, MtuMsuper, PissedYagami, Muafrika2

Open and read, follow important links : https://nairobiplanninginnovations.com/projects/kenya-slum-upgrading-programme-kensup/

MtuMsuper:

I beg to differ : this thread summarises it all. Nigeria is a poster child of ethno religious intolerance.Viewer discretion advised. :
https://www.nairaland.com/3554442/chronicles-hausa-fulani-islamists-expansion-southern

This is probably a consequence of me living virtually all of my life down south , I must admit there have been lots of ethno-religious crisis in the North. I feel it has a lot to do with religion other than tribe though.

Nevertheless, religious intolerance/extremism is common in Nigeria, probably more here than any other african nation.
I however still insist that voting along tribal lines is not as rife in Nigeria as you seem to belive, what matters first is your popularity, how much money you have to spend, then factors like your tribe,religion... follows.

Muafrika2:
I've heard stories about the North and the South having to alternate presidency. How does it work? Especially considering that they have to be elected by popular vote?

Does it mean that the establishment pulls strings to ensure this happens?

jstbeinhonest

Yes, there seem to be a mutual, non written agreement between the North and the South to alternate presidency. The political parties make that work by 'zoning' the seat to whatever region.

The pattern seems to have been disrupted after Yar A'dua's death, it remains to be seen how much the agreement would be adhered to, our democracy is quite young.

Muafrika2:

Kibera/Kibra was a land expanse just outside the Nairobi CBD that the British colonial government gifted to Nubian soldiers from Sudan. They had fought for the British in a war and were frequently used against African rebels in colonies.

The problem with the Nubians is that they opted for mud and tin roofs as building materials, paid no attention to social amenities and built rentals which were soon taken up by Africans migrating to the cities from the villages. In addition to the Nubians lands, the railway reserves, lands owned by the Kenya Railway were soon invaded and form part of Kibera.

Well, if you are jobless in a slum, and get a house that could bring in 20 times as much as you earn in rent, would you move into it and continue to starve in the pretty house or would you turn it into a source of income? I would do the later.

Many of them are however renting out the extra bedrooms in their houses while squeezing themselves in the remaining space.

Oh my, very enlightening response.
Are the descendants of these Nubians still there in Kibera or they left? What about the other Africans who came to Kibera later on? Are they from indigenous kenyan tribes? If yes, can they still trace their native villages in Kenya?

You are very correct, giving a pretty house to a jobless slum dweller is somehow unuseful, I think the best way to liberate people from the slums is to get them gainfully employed with well paying Jobs in the main city.

You have told me about Kibera, what about Mathare and the others? I heard Mathare is even bigger than Kibera?

Muafrika2:

He's showing you tough love

Really? Are most Kenyan guys like that?

darknetcom:


dont mind am..if the kenyan mofo doesnt like you..

your nigerian boo boo will always love you...

awww, dats nyc of ya

naijalander:



What about this? There are hardly any images about Northern minorities. Y'all are so disenfranchised lmao #nooffense

Northern and middlebelt minorities are so numerous. So they all cannot appear on a map. When you hear of over 350 ethnic groups in Nigeria, where do u think they are located?
Plateau state (my homestate) has about 50 ethnic groups who speak completely different languages. There is a particular LGA in Jos here that has about 9 different ethnic groups. States like Taraba, Kaduna and Adamawa are even worse.

The South-south region also has many ethnic groups too, Cross River state for instance has over 50 ethnic groups too, but imagine in this map, only Efik was mentioned.
Are u yoruba or Igbo?

gallivant:


Its true. I love that girl.

naijalander:



What about this? There are hardly any images about Northern minorities. Y'all are so disenfranchised lmao #nooffense

Are Fulanis assumed to be one with Hausas on that map?

ianSweet:


Oh my, very enlightening response.
Are the descendants of these Nubians still there in Kibera or they left? What about the other Africans who came to Kibera later on? Are they from indigenous kenyan tribes? If yes, can they still trace their native villages in Kenya?

You are very correct, giving a pretty house to a jobless slum dweller is somehow unuseful, I think the best way to liberate people from the slums is to get them gainfully employed with well paying Jobs in the main city.

You have told me about Kibera, what about Mathare and the others? I heard Mathare is even bigger than Kibera?

Yep. The Nubians are still strong and easily stand out in Kibra. They are not happy with the slum upgrade because it is being done on the land. But the government has a right to do it, especially for public interest.

Mathare is 300m by 2km. The land is private but occupied by squatters.

Probably started by low income workers wanting to stay closer to their work places around the city.

The 2009 census counted just over 80 000 people living in Mathare’s 13 villages

darfay:



@iblawi,iansweet and co don't mind all this kanyans, I think they actually admire we Nigerians. I wonder what I will be doing on a Kenyan forum when I neither stay there or even plan on going there
So the other day I decided to check out what Kenyan music looks and a Kenyan: Akothee in her song titled benefactor sang in very fluent Nigerian pidgin English and the so called song is a top ten song over there
@whoever I am quoting I have read countless articles of how Kenyans are becoming more interested in pidgin English. I wonder why you are telling lies here. Nigerian influence is massive in Africa ( kenya inclusive) due to our movies, music, political strengths and co. you must be one self hating Kenyan to deny this facts, I wonder why you guys hate Nigerians way e no even send una one bit. the best we Nigerians know about Kenya is that it's a country in Africa (honestly speaking)

@pazienza your life must really suck and the way you dey hawk Igbo matters for head like bread is really worrisome, you go around nairaland portraying igbos in bad light when igbos are from this in reality smh

The best you know about Kenya is that it's a country in Africa yet you want to be the voice that tells everyone on this forum the truth about Kenya? SMH

ianSweet:


Yemi Alade and Sauti sol sang together in both pidgin and swahili (representing both cultures).
However, Akothee is a Kenyan lady not known by most Nigerians but she sang in Nigerian pidgin. I think it's just her strategy to capture the Nigerian audience.
It's a nice song tho and i like it.

There's another song (nasema asante) that Yemi sang alone in Swahili. You're clearly trying too hard.

Now, thank you guys for all the fun we've had so far. Would you mind then checking out my blog and leaving a few comments if you can?

www.solacecity.com

ianSweet:


What brings u to Nigeria specifically? Am curious.

About Nigerian pidgin, i don't think Lagosians even speak real Nigerian pidgin cos yoruba is the street language in many parts of Lagos, and Lagos pidgin is mixed with yoruba a lot.
If u want to hear real Nigerian pidgin, i think you should visit Nigerian cities like Warri, Benin and Port harcourt (south-south Nigeria), where the language originated. This is where you find the best pidgin speakers, many who speak it as a first language and their major language at home, it is fast displacing their native languages over here.
Infact if u hear real Warri Pidgin english, u may not be able to pick a single word out. We just don't have enough movie producers from South-south Nigeria to promote Pidgin language movie industry. So u only hear some good pidgin in our musics. Our govt is not interested in promoting the language if not it would have had a greater international image by now.


On the part of history, even though we offer social studies as a subject from our Primary school levels, i agree that we really do not learn about African peoples and cultures. Only those that offer history as a subject in senior secondary schools have a chance to learning that. I think our educational authorities really need to work on that aspect.

My company scales operations for large tech companies or tech departments of companies e.g. Tells, Large banks and insurance companies, betting companies etc. We advise and implement large network systems, horizontal scaling of servers and things of that kind.

Unfortunately there is no time to visit all those cities ! I will be at Lagos then Abuja for a few weeks since all the important companies are usually headquartered in Lagos especially.

Maybe pidgin is not promoted since it is seen as an urbane but developing language akin to Kenya's Sheng?