John 14 vs 6: l am the way the truth and the life.No man comes to the Father except by me.

You cant come to the Father(Yahweh, the righteous and everlasting Father) EXCEPT through ME (Jesus)

If you don't come through Jesus, u don't have anything to do with the Father.

I will also advise the Christians to read the Bible very well and avoid meaningless arguments.

If you are a baby in Christ, read your Bible and stay away from here.

Don't force anyone to accept Christ. That is the work of the holy Spirit. If the spirit doesn't draw someone, u can't.

You know, much of the blame goes to the Roman catholic church for this pitiable lie being peddled everywhere that the GOD of the Bible is the same god muslims serve. The catholic church is working hard(and achieving success) at uniting all the religions of the world into one. It's no longer news that the pope says that muslims serve the one true GOD with Christians. One day, Roman Catholicism, Islam, Hinduism, name them, will all unite into a single religion which professes to worship GOD. On the other side will be GOD's true people, who abide by the Bible.

It's also not hard to see why the catholic church continues to demote Jesus from His GOD-status daily, and exalt Mary higher to even a position of Mediator between GOD and man. Yes, you guessed right: muslims demote Jesus and revere Mary too.

Actually, the Roman Catholic church formed Islam. Google is there for anyone who wishes to know more.

Why Christ?

Man sinned thru Adam.....Hence we inherited sin. Man was banished from God's presence.

Man remitted sins through sacrifice of animals for blood...Even our forefathers did same to a god*

Christ's blood is the sacrifice once and for all. If you believe u are a sinner thro one man Adam, you are saved by the blood of one man Jesus.

If you refuse him, your sins remain. No blood for the remission of your sins.

If you are really in Christ, you are now renewed. The old man will curse anyone who cursed him, the born again one will bless who cursed him.

The word born again* has been misued. If anyone really is born again, the way of the old man(natural man) will change to that of the new man in Jesus.

He will turn away from sins which is difficult, if not impossible, for the old man. This is possible through Christ, and the newness is Christ

When people talk and blaspheme, I just shake my head.....

Goliath did not know his enemy. He thought his enemy was David, he didn't know it was God Almighty, the holy one of Israel.

He saw David, a youth with a sling and stones.

Many of you guys are like Goliath

It will be a day of terror when you stand before the King of Kings!!!

If the sun is one of his creation, then you are in trouble!!!

Many Christian babies come here and read a lot of rubbish. After a while, they are corrupt and fall away.

Know your spiritual level before reading just anything here. Satan himself is here.

God is seriously warning his children

.

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

Originakalokalo:
John 14 vs 6: l am the way the truth and the life.No man comes to the Father except by me.

You cant come to the Father(Yahweh, the righteous and everlasting Father) EXCEPT through ME (Jesus)

If you don't come through Jesus, u don't have anything to do with the Father.

So, what of before Jesus (peace be upon him). Because I'm sure that before Jesus (peace be upon him), there was Moses, David, and all other messengers (peace be upon them all), and no one went to God, except through them.
You're gonna have to tell me that I'm wrong.

I will also advise the Christians to read the Bible very well and avoid meaningless arguments.

If you are a baby in Christ, read your Bible and stay away from here.

Don't force anyone to accept Christ. That is the work of the holy Spirit. If the spirit doesn't draw someone, u can't.

Salaam

DoctorAlien:
You know, much of the blame goes to the Roman catholic church for this pitiable lie being peddled everywhere that the GOD of the Bible is the same god muslims serve.

I happen to agree with the statement that Muslims, Christians, and any other religion which worship a divine being, the creator, all worship the same God, irrespective of what He is called.
If you don't agree with this, I have no problem with you, but you'll have to answer my question.
My question is; "I worship my Creator, and my Creator created you. If you don't worship Him, who do you worship"?

The catholic church is working hard(and achieving success) at uniting all the religions of the world into one. It's no longer news that the pope says that muslims serve the one true GOD with Christians. One day, Roman Catholicism, Islam, Hinduism, name them, will all unite into a single religion which professes to worship GOD. On the other side will be GOD's true people, who abide by the Bible.

OK.

It's also not hard to see why the catholic church continues to demote Jesus from His GOD-status daily, and exalt Mary higher to even a position of Mediator between GOD and man.

OK.

Yes, you guessed right: muslims demote Jesus and revere Mary too.

Please show me where Jesus (peace be upon him) said (in your bible) that he is God, or he should be worshipped.
Depends on what you mean by "revere Mary". She was a righteous woman, who kept her chastity, and preserved her modesty. She is also the mother of a
Messenger of God.

Actually, the Roman Catholic church formed Islam. Google is there for anyone who wishes to know more.

OK.

Salaam.

Haroun13:
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.


So, what of before Jesus (peace be upon him). Because I'm sure that before Jesus (peace be upon him), there was Moses, David, and all other messengers (peace be upon them all), and no one went to God, except through them.
You're gonna have to tell me that I'm wrong.



Salaam

No one is saved in the name of Moses

David also depended on God for his salvation.

Jesus is the Only way. He gives life.
He gave life to Lazarus.

Death could not hold him.

No one knows the way to eternal life,










Except through Jesus

Haroun13:

I happen to agree with the statement that Muslims, Christians, and any other religion which worship a divine being, the creator, all worship the same God, irrespective of what He is called.
If you don't agree with this, I have no problem with you, but you'll have to answer my question.
My question is; "I worship my Creator, and my Creator created you. If you don't worship Him, who do you worship"?


OK.


OK.


Please show me where Jesus (peace be upon him) said (in your bible) that he is God, or he should be worshipped.
Depends on what you mean by "revere Mary". She was a righteous woman, who kept her chastity, and preserved her modesty. She is also the mother of a
Messenger of God.


OK.

Salaam.

Thomas said...._ " My Lord and my GOD"

Jesus Christ My Lord did not correct him.


The Bible says....And the disciples worshiped him.


24 elders in heaven bowed down and worshiped the Lamb of God who is Jesus.



You guys should stop using this line "show me where Jesus said he is God"

It is no longer working.


We have Evidences of the claim.

More than enough.

Tell me if you want more

One God cannot have different forms of worship.

Everything is very different between Christian's and Muslim's mode of worship.


Name, believe, mode of worship, prayer, building of place of worship, Book, character, etc.


Let's stop saying that we serve the same God.


One thing is sure:

One Group is on his way to Everlasting Torment.

While the other is on his way to Everlasting Life.


I choose to stay with Christ.

Originakalokalo:



Thomas said...._ " My Lord and my GOD"

Jesus Christ My Lord did not correct him.


The Bible says....And the disciples worshiped him.


24 elders in heaven bowed down and worshiped the Lamb of God who is Jesus.



You guys should stop using this line "show me where Jesus said he is God"

It is no longer working.


We have Evidences of the claim.

More than enough.

Tell me if you want more

it did not come. From his mouth


U said he didn't correct him does it means it right

U said in heaven they worshipp jesus not on earth
When Allah created Adam (AS) he told the whole angels to bow .
Does it mean Adam is. God


Where are d evidence?

.

UmarIbnShittu:
it did not come. From his mouth


U said he didn't correct him does it means it right

U said in heaven they worshipp jesus not on earth
When Allah created Adam (AS) he told the whole angels to bow .
Does it mean Adam is. God


Where are d evidence?

Did you read the part where the disciples worshiped Jesus?

When Lazarus was sick.

He said the sickness was not unto death,

It's FOR THE SON OF GOD TO BE GLORIFIED.


Jesus said, If anyone does the will of the Father,

The holy Spirit will dwell in him.

" We will come to him"

If you read the verses before this statement, he clearly was talking about the father himself and the holy Spirit.


I have God the Father, son and holy Spirit in me.
That's why the Bible says greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world.

We baptize in the name of the father, and of the son and of the holy Spirit...

This makes it simple to understand. The Son's name is also relevant at the onset of salvation..At Baptism.

UmarIbnShittu:
it did not come. From his mouth


U said he didn't correct him does it means it right

U said in heaven they worshipp jesus not on earth
When Allah created Adam (AS) he told the whole angels to bow .
Does it mean Adam is. God


Where are d evidence?

When Jesus was praying for the disciples, he said "John 17:5

And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self WITH THE GLORY WHICH I HAVE WITH THEE before the world was.

Muslim brothers should stop using the line ..

He is not God"

He didn't say worship me"


Don't let those imams deceive you.whenever they want to ridicule Christianity.

Tell them to read the Bible

It has served us well this myth of Christ-pope Leo X.

Allah (English pronunciation: /ˈælə/ or /ˈɑːlə/;[1] Arabic: الله‎ Allāh, IPAsmiley is the Arabic word for God (al ilāh, literally "the God"wink.[2][3][4]

The word has cognates in other Semitic languages, including Elah in Aramaic, ʾĒl in Canaanite and Elohim in Hebrew.[5][6]

It is used mainly by Muslims to refer to God in Islam,[7] but it has also been used by Arab Christians since pre-Islamic times.[8]

It is written as ܐܠܗܐ (ʼĔlāhā) in Biblical Aramaic and ܐܲܠܵܗܵܐ (ʼAlâhâ) in Syriac as used by the Assyrian Church, both meaning simply "God".[17]

Pre-Islamic Christians, Jews and the monotheistic Arabs called Hanifs used the name Allah and the terms 'Bismillah', 'in the name of Allah' to refer to their supreme deity in Arabic stone inscriptions centuries before Islam.[29]

According to Böwering, in contrast with pre-Islamic Arabian polytheism, God in Islam does not have associates and companions, nor is there any kinship between God and jinn.[30]

According to Francis Edwards Peters, "The Qur’ān insists, Muslims believe, and historians affirm that Muhammad and his followers worship the same God as the Jews (29:46). The Qur’an's Allah is the same Creator God who covenanted with Abraham". Peters states that the Qur'an portrays Allah as both more powerful and more remote than Yahweh, and as a universal deity, unlike Yahweh who closely follows Israelites.[22]

The Aramaic word for "God" in the language of Assyrian Christians is ʼĔlāhā, or Alaha. Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word "Allah" to mean "God".[5]

The Christian Arabs of today have no other word for "God" than "Allah".[21]

(Even the Arabic-descended Maltese language of Malta, whose population is almost entirely Roman Catholic, uses Alla for "God".) Arab Christians, for example, use the terms Allāh al-ab (الله الأب) for God the Father, Allāh al-ibn (الله الابن) for God the Son, and Allāh al-rūḥ al-quds (الله الروح القدس) for God the Holy Spirit. (See God in Christianity for the Christian concept of God.)

According to Marshall Hodgson, it seems that in the pre-Islamic times, some Arab Christians made pilgrimage to the Kaaba, a pagan temple at that time, honoring Allah there as God the Creator.[39]

Some archaeological excavation quests have led to the discovery of ancient pre-Islamic inscriptions and tombs made by Arabic-speaking Christians in the ruins of a church at Umm el-Jimal in Northern Jordan, which contained references to Allah as the proper name of God, and some of the graves contained names such as "Abd Allah" which means "the servant/slave of Allah".[40][41][42]
The name Allah can be found countless times in the reports and the lists of names of Christian martyrs in South Arabia, as reported by antique Syriac documents of the names of those martyrs from the era of the Himyarite and Aksumite kingdoms.[8][43]

In pre-Islamic Gospels, the name used for God was "Allah", as evidenced by some discovered Arabic versions of the New Testament written by Arab Christians during the pre-Islamic era in Northern and Southern Arabia.[47][48][49]

Pre-Islamic Arab Christians have been reported to have raised the battle cry "Ya La Ibad Allah" (O slaves of Allah) to invoke each other into battle.[50]

"Allah" was also mentioned in pre-Islamic Christian poems by some Ghassanid and Tanukhid poets in Syria and Northern Arabia.[51][52][53]

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2 "God". Islam: Empire of Faith. PBS. Archived from the original on 2014-03-27. Retrieved 18 December 2010.

3 "Islam and Christianity", Encyclopedia of Christianity (2001): Arabic-speaking Christians and Jews also refer to God as Allāh.

4 L. Gardet. "Allah". Encyclopaedia of Islam Online.

5 Columbia Encyclopedia, Allah

6 Brown, Francis; Driver, S.R.; Briggs, Charles. A. Hebrew and English Lexicon. Peabody, Massachusetts: Hendricksen. p. 41, entry 410 1.b. ISBN 9781565632066.

7 Merriam-Webster. "Allah". Merriam-Webster. Archived from the original on 2014-04-20. Retrieved 25 February 2012.

8 Rick Brown, Who was 'Allah' before Islam? Evidence that the term 'Allah' originated with Jewish and Christian Arabs (2007), page 8.

17 The Comprehensive Aramaic Lexicon – Entry for ʼlh Archived October 18, 2013 at the Wayback Machine

21 Lewis, Bernard; Holt, P. M.; Holt, Peter R.; Lambton, Ann Katherine Swynford (1977). The Cambridge history of Islam. Cambridge, Eng: University Press. p. 32. ISBN 978-0-521-29135-4.

22 F.E. Peters, Islam, p.4, Princeton University Press, 2003

29 Hitti, Philip Khouri (2002-09-06). History of the Arabs. Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan. p. 800. ISBN 9780333631423.

30 Böwering, Gerhard, God and His Attributes, Encyclopaedia of the Qurʼān, Brill, 2007.

39 Marshall G. S. Hodgson, The Venture of Islam: Conscience and History in a World Civilization, University of Chicago Press, p. 156

40 James Bellamy, "Two Pre-Islamic Arabic Inscriptions Revised: Jabal Ramm and Umm al-Jimal", Journal of the American Oriental Society, 108/3 (1988)

41 Enno Littmann, Arabic Inscriptions (Leiden, 1949)

42 Rick Brown, Who is "Allah" ? - International Journal of Frontier Missions, (23:2 Summer 2006), page 80.

43 Ignatius Ya`qub III, The Arab Himyarite Martyrs in the Syriac Documents (1966), Pages: 9-65-66-89

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Originakalokalo:


One God cannot have different forms of worship.

Everything is very different between Christian's and Muslim's mode of worship.


Name, believe, mode of worship, prayer, building of place of worship, Book, character, etc.


Let's stop saying that we serve the same God.


One thing is sure:

One Group is on his way to Everlasting Torment.

While the other is on his way to Everlasting Life.


I choose to stay with Christ.

Do christians and Jews serve the same God?

tartar9:

Do christians and Jews serve the same God?

Yes

Originakalokalo:


When Jesus was praying for the disciples, he said "John 17:5

And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self WITH THE GLORY WHICH I HAVE WITH THEE before the world was.

that is not an evidence gloryfying and worshiping are different actions


Haya guy na jahanum ena dey play with or u think say na like the fire for dis earth

NB that fire on earth is the smoke of jahanum dilluted seven times. So why will you want that kind of azaba for yourself

Originakalokalo:
John 14 vs 6: l am the way the truth and the life.No man comes to the Father except by me.

You cant come to the Father(Yahweh, the righteous and everlasting Father) EXCEPT through ME (Jesus)

If you don't come through Jesus, u don't have anything to do with the Father.

I will also advise the Christians to read the Bible very well and avoid meaningless arguments.

If you are a baby in Christ, read your Bible and stay away from here.

Don't force anyone to accept Christ. That is the work of the holy Spirit. If the spirit doesn't draw someone, u can't.

.

It is true that it is the work of the Holy Spirit to convert people to Christ, but He cannot do that without the Goodnews been declared.

We have to sow the seed of truth in men, only then can the Holy ghost cause it to germinate and produce a harvest of faith and righteousness to the glory of God and our lord Christ Jesus. Amen