Ttalk:

Vital is good. Since you are spreading to other ponds I suggest u dedicate one pond to local feed. The experience you will get will help you in subsequent production. Knowledge in local feed management is necessary for expansion

Consider the cost of floating feed like vital that cost 6800 per 15kg, if your FCR is 1:1 then you will required 453naira to attain 1kg apart from other sundry expenses.

robonski15:


You might have over stocked the bigger pond, what is the size of the ponds and how many did you stock in each?

frshwvfarms:


We cannot even find Vital feed around Ikorodu Lagos as of this past 2 days for close to this prize. Anyone with such knowledge, please share. I need to stock about 20 bags
I am seriously looking for a proven local feed with easier cost for one of the pond with those around 500 to 700g. So about 400 fishes can experiment on the local feed

Ttalk:

You can use proven formula from this thread.
Seems feed distributors are another cabals dealing with farmers. They just supply whatever they want to the market without regard for farmers demand. Today they flood the market with Coppens, tomorrow its vital, next tomorrow it ala-aqua
It is high time farmers come together and purchase directly from producer. This would enable us make reasonable bargain for price reduction and equally address the quality issue of floating feeds

sirfarouk:


What's your take on the use of poultry eggs and poultry droppings as supplementary fish feed?

Ttalk:

You can use proven formula from this thread.
Seems feed distributors are another cabals dealing with farmers. They just supply whatever they want to the market without regard for farmers demand. Today they flood the market with Coppens, tomorrow its vital, next tomorrow it ala-aqua
It is high time farmers come together and purchase directly from producer. This would enable us make reasonable bargain for price reduction and equally address the quality issue of floating feeds

funso111:
I am sure I didn't overstock sir. The pond is 40 by 30 ft.and 5ft deep. I have 1500 pieces. The smaller pond is just about half of the bigger pond with 1100 pieces and doing fine

frshwvfarms:


Thanks again TTalk..I would appreciate it if you can quote one for me, please. However i am more interested in purchasing from a very reliable person with a proven safe formula
You have great point. There are multiple gains in creating Cooperative for CatFish farmers to patronize and support few authentic local producers and distribute some trusted foreign feed as well as addressing other important concerns such as fair marketing prizes towards sustainability. I strongly support encouraging local feed production to boost job creation and fortify us farmers against fluctuating economy and exchange rate. Imagine not finding the feed you so much depend on because of sudden importation exchange rate or total ban for whatever reason? Such moves will devastate farmers, their families and consumers alike. In support of your view, I am interested in farmer's exchange where we can bring your locally manufactured feed for distribution to farmers as a reliable source. The same place can serve as one stop for stock sales and distribution as well as feed marketing. This idea can encourage talented feed producers to continue producing good feed. The benefit will be reduced feed cost and a reliable trusted marketing location for farmers. We must consider ways to allow this exchange to earn something to facilitate all these activities that are critical to our overall success as a community of farmers. Everyone win when you factor each talent/tool/labor.

robonski15:


Try to increase their feed by 10% and make sure water quality is optimum.

Ttalk:

Economy: 4-6month
FM 10kg, Blood Meal 10kg, SBM 30kg, GNC 20kg, Corn 15kg Cassava Flour 5kg Wheat Offal 10kg. Lysine, Meth, Salt, Premix, Toxin Binder and Vit C

Many have msde huge discovery but to afraid to share it because they felt people would steal their ideas fogetting that it will soon become obsolete with time.
Another thing hindering our progress is plsying by the rule instead of setting new rule. My latest stock are being fed with 50% of my local starter feed and no mortality with exellent growth. If we can all go back to the dtawing board we would come out with breakthrough that would sustaing aquacultre business in Nigeria. Each time you buy starter feed above 10k know that you are simply paying the price of not producing your own feed by yourself

Ttalk:

Economy: 4-6month
FM 10kg, Blood Meal 10kg, SBM 30kg, GNC 20kg, Corn 15kg Cassava Flour 5kg Wheat Offal 10kg. Lysine, Meth, Salt, Premix, Toxin Binder and Vit C

Many have msde huge discovery but to afraid to share it because they felt people would steal their ideas fogetting that it will soon become obsolete with time.
Another thing hindering our progress is plsying by the rule instead of setting new rule. My latest stock are being fed with 50% of my local starter feed and no mortality with exellent growth. If we can all go back to the dtawing board we would come out with breakthrough that would sustaing aquacultre business in Nigeria. Each time you buy starter feed above 10k know that you are simply paying the price of not producing your own feed by yourself

funso111:
pls what do u mean by" local starter " is it 2-3 mm or 05-<2mm.I am interested.

kingsweb04:
I would like to ask you.. can you please give me the appropriate size of pond to stock 5000 catfish from juvenile to table size in an Earthen Pond.

I intend building an Earthen Pond and want stock them with at least 5000 juvenile but don't know the size of the pond to dig... Will appreciate your help.

frshwvfarms:


Thanks for that details sir...I appreciate your help. Sorry for bothering you more..Is there measure for these: Lysine, Meth, Salt, Premix, Toxin Binder and Vit C from Fingerling, Juvenile, or to adult? Can someone buy these raw materials and call or email for guidance? and where can one buy some of these?
Good to know you have proven feed mix. In relative to our discussion to produce locally, Can you mix for a fee or train others to produce for us, other farmers?
We can imagine how many farmers are being kicked out of business due to that +/- N10k cost? But i am hopeful the high cost can force local high quality production and help our dear country with struggling foreign exchange to save the foreign exchanges used for coppen and others for some other important needs we all can use especially to produce power. I am willing to patronize you and encourage local productions as enough gain to encourage investment becomes feasible. we are the people who makes all the difference. Someone must say " send me, I am ready....

Ttalk:

Local starter are local feed betwee 0.5mm and 2mm

Ttalk:


Lysine, Meth, Salt and Premix at 1 kg each for 100kg composition. Toxin binder 0.5 Vit C 0.2.

You can add palm oil or fish oil if available

I believe many have made huge discovery but too scare to share because they dont want people to steal their ideas. What they fail to understand is that ideal will keep changing, what you are proud of today will become obsolete in few years.

Many can formulate highly nutritious feed than imported feed but the question is in the water stability of the feed.

This is a challenge to all local fish feed producer. This is my objective this year to make my feed as stable in water as Coppens

funso111:
you do the feed yourself sir?. Can u compare d result with what is obtain from foreign feed

Ttalk:


Yes, the result has been excellent

Ttalk:


You can use standard pond density to arrive at the number you want tsock

For concrete multiply Lenght X Breath X Height / by 3 will give you square metre. Then stock 5 fish per square metre
For earthen pond stock 2 fish per square metre

For example earthen pond of 50ft X 40ft by 4ft =8,000/3 =2,666sqm X 2 = 5,333

Your pond of 50ft X 40ft x 4ft can accommodate 5,000 fish

However, you have to consider whether your level of water is always at 4ft height throughout your production session.

You consider whether there is continuously inflow and outflow of water into your pond

Whether you are using foreign feed or local feed.

Whether you water pH is at neutral or close to neutral

If those conditions are met then you can optimise your stocking density to 5,000, otherwise you stock 4,000 or below to create allowance for condition you do not meet.

It is a different ball game entirely if you are producing melange

kingsweb04:


Thanks alot...

At this time someone is advising me to build concrete pond instead of Earthen Pond due to the stress and management system... what do you think? Is it better to continue with concrete Pond on just build earthen pond instead?

Ttalk:


Lysine, Meth, Salt and Premix at 1 kg each for 100kg composition. Toxin binder 0.5 Vit C 0.2.

You can add palm oil or fish oil if available

I believe many have made huge discovery but too scare to share because they dont want people to steal their ideas. What they fail to understand is that ideal will keep changing, what you are proud of today will become obsolete in few years.

Many can formulate highly nutritious feed than imported feed but the question is in the water stability of the feed.

This is a challenge to all local fish feed producer. This is my objective this year to make my feed as stable in water as Coppens

vroom:



i am willing to learn bro...i dont mind coming around for training and even to train others that are interested, knowledge is not limited