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Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by cyrilamx(m): 4:36pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Why are the pentecostals and not the Catholic Church crying foul as regards this law implemented by Gej admin since 2011? Well truth is their is a difference. The Catholic Church administration already governed by Canon laws. In the Catholic Church a bishop of a diocese must submit a letter of retirement to the Pope on attaining the mandatory age of 75 whether his episcopate in the particular diocese is 20 years or not. The Catholic Church already has it own structure which many of the pentecostals are lacking. In centuries past when the Catholic Church had undue meddling in politics, the repercussions were grave...it even affected elections of popes a situation whereby emperors /kings tru their legates could veto elections of popes if it not their candidates. The church had to take a stand against the interference of states in her affairs during the papacy of Pope St Pius X In the early part of the 20 century though wit this action of hers, she Lost so much in earthly property but gain much in spirituality in her severance from centuries of church-states relationship. This culminated in the italo-vatican Concordat of 1920s making the Vatican a sovereign state. So the pentecostals have to toe the line of the mother church by putting in place succession plans, regulations and water down on material acquisition preachings. In all honesty this law isn't applicable to the Catholic Church cos it already governed by Canon laws. The Catholic Church can stand on its own...the redeem church, winners Christ embassy etc put together are less than 1% of global catholics n 10% of Nigerian catholics. Put your house in order and stop roping in PMB government because of innate hatred. 4 Likes |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by transient123(m): 4:40pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
creserve:God bless you. Gullible and stupid need government protection. Shikena! |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by namdo(m): 4:46pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Pastor Adeboye just obeyed the law of the land but it is unfortunate that Govt is deciding how church is to be administered, really unfortunate. If only the churches were focused fully on the gospel without hidden agendas and greed. God will judge. |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by Wiseandtrue(f): 4:50pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Hmmmmmm èléyí gídígàn oooooo
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Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by Abillsable: 5:01pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
WebSurfer:In essence you think the church is responsible for the underdevelopment or slow development of Nigeria. |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by must2016: 5:31pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
To all readers and commentators compliment of the season,i am not a fan of Buhari or the present FG. Neither am i a fan of RCCG or any religious outlet.The fact is that,this law was enacted long time ago in 2011 and the CAN sued the FG but they lost.Since then,there have been a lot of appeals but the final verdict came out sometime late last year..In a nutshell,with the type of religious settings in Nigeria,where a whole lot of church goers are being robbed daily by the so called MEN OF GOD that were never even called by the devil,i see no meaningful development in the Country.Thanks to all.. 2 Likes |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by thesicilian: 5:37pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Nairalanded:Your points are valid and quite objective. As you said, the church members are the ones who are complaining, and my initial post was mainly to tell them to shut up (with all due respect to them) because they had a man up there (VP) and he claims to be powerless to act. The law is ostensibly for Christian, Muslim, and other not for profit organizations, but we all know at the end of the day only Christians will be affected. Just like Christians are being killed all over the country and no one is doing anything. Of what use is sponsoring a pastor to the helm of affairs if he can't be of any help to the Christian faith? Now his own people are the first to be affected. No one seems to see anything wrong with the law itself. Tomorrow the government'll tell churches to start paying tax. Or start interfering with how church leaders are chosen. or when to hold services. Or haven't you heard about what that fulani herdsman who calls himself governor of Kaduna is already doing? |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by thesicilian: 5:42pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
dawahlarry:That is the problem. Where were all the Christian lawmakers when the law was being passed? They saw nothing wrong with it then. Now that the head has been cut it's too late to cry |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by gerg: 5:57pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
skywalker240:Prove wetin? Were you in mars when GEJ was endorsed by CAN at a meeting held in RCCG? what other prove do you need again? |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by zagadat1: 6:32pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Regarding the remaining GO's who are to also retire what if they don't step down? What happens? Can sm1 explain |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by chiraqDemon(m): 6:46pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
This religion and government thing is not allowing naija to progress o |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by MisterB13: 6:47pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
If the VP is not a Christian, people would say muslims are deliberately targeting the churches. If as a VP, he can't fight against a supposedly wrong law against the religious houses, esp churches, then he must not have seen anything wrong with the law. Personally though, I do not see how the law helps the economy. No one should interfere with religious house so far they aren't breaking the law in any way. |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by Zejie: 7:03pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
crystalballs:dnt get it wrong the law was never made in 2011. An act was formed in 2011 to review the operations of the FRCN and churches and non profit organisations were included. It was May 2015, the act was reviewed and then tenure of church and non profit organisations were brought on board. The churches took d case to court and then the case was suspended until October 2016 the court verdict on d case was delivered and the churches lost. |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by martineverest(m): 7:08pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Elxandre:the 20 yrs law is for both xtians and muslims |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by zicoraads: 7:13pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
martineverest:Do Muslims have general overseers like Christians?! The both religions were only put there to give it a semblance of balance. We all know who the law was actually for. |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by okpurukata(f): 7:38pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
I see nothing wrong with this law. The 20yrs tenor is long enough for any founder of an NGO or church to impart whatever teaching and pass on to another. This will ensure continuity, accountability and the reduce the craze for wealth. A church or mosque should not be woven around an individual. The Nigerian Pentecostal system actually needed to be checked. My fear now is that the GOs and founders will make sure they empty the church treasury into their personal accounts before they ever hand over. Just tell me how Chris Okotie, Oyakhilome, TB Joshua, Ibiyeomie will hand over all their billions to another person to manage. No way. Accountability is key. Thanks 1 Like |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by martineverest(m): 7:43pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
zicoraads:but the law was made in gej's era.. I dont know nairalanders' problems.a good law was made and implemented,rhey are still complaining.....same ppl that complain of men of God extortiontionism and extravagancy 1 Like |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by tosyne2much(m): 7:48pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Even though I'm a Christian, that shouldn't mean I should be ignorant of reality.. I don't see anything bad with the government meddling into the affairs of the church. This is what the ought to have been doing Go to other developed countries and you will see that the govt regulates almost everything. It's only an over religious country like Nigeria that sees government interference in church matter as anti-christ 3 Likes |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by Ademoore07(m): 8:43pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
At last, the FRC director who initiated the law had been sacked today by Buhari himself. When Baba Adeboye was saying all this, Osinbajo was there. It took less than 48hours for the man to receive his sack letter. That shows how powerful Baba Adeboye is. |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by Akiika: 9:01pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Here we go, this is the only language Nigerians understand....religiosity!!! Emotion will start running now, how dare FG legislate "anti-church" law, the only place that encourages their laziness! This is why almost everyone is deaf, dumb and stupid. Daddy GO must talk nah, Daddy FG want to start spoiling business. Wake up Nigerians! |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by Akiika: 9:03pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Ademoore07:Oh, it was Daddy GO that prayed that he be sacked! dis una GOs don crase una finish. 2 Likes |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by Acidosis(m): 9:06pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
What will happen to SCOAN and T.B Joshua after 20 years? This law is really meaningless. I bet T.B Joshua will hand over to Muhammadu Buhari to perform is retrogressive yet mind blowing negative miracles on innocent souls. What a set of buffoons! |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by skywalker240(m): 9:18pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
gerg:So it Adeboye who is now the voice of CAN ABI |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by Fourwinds: 9:20pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
FG can try dat one with. Catholic Church...after all d head is in Vatican city |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by Fourwinds: 9:27pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
okpurukata:dats what will happened |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by Fourwinds: 9:27pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
okpurukata:dats what will happen |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by Alajiki(m): 9:30pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
buchilino: Question:Do you attack Buhari because you're a christian? 1 Like |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by buchilino(m): 9:36pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Alajiki:I ATTACK BUHARI COS HIS OUTRAGEOUS POLICIES. |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by buchilino(m): 9:38pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Alajiki:I ATTACK BUHARI COS MOST HIS OUTRAGEOUS POLICIES. |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by castrokins(m): 10:00pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Is It Church Business To Build Industries? Is It By Force That You Go To Church Or Subscribe To Any Religion? When Have You Ever Read That The Government Decides For The Islamic Council Of Nigeria, Or The Sultan Or Any Other Religion, Say Traditional, Etc? WebSurfer: |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by DisGuy: 11:02pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
be like say this thing pain daddy g.o fahh but they have not stopped oga from preaching na |
Re: "FG Is Increasingly Meddling In Church Affairs" - Pastor Adeboye by Deetosin(m): 11:20pm On Jan 09, 2017 |
Abillsable: A lot of people live under the bridge and slum( poverty ) .. Not once or twice I had to control myself not to cry..... There is this slum it's under the bridge with a lot of woods ( the ones used for electrical poles) and I know people lives there...... We Nigerians are so blinded by our love for religion and tribalism and it is killing us .. It makes me wonder y we keep building churches and we are not developing as a nation(it only means one thing we are practicing religion and tribalism wrongly). |
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