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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by purplekayc(m): 1:38pm On Jan 10, 2017
Easy draw for united in next FA cup round

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 1:38pm On Jan 10, 2017
Why are you people arguing with someone that thinks Moyes was the right person for United? The same Moyes who has NEVER won anything of note in his managing career and has subsequently flirted with relegation everywhere he has gone.

Why waste your time with such a person?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CONTEDDICTED: 1:39pm On Jan 10, 2017
So it is Mata a united player that has lost his place in the first XI that is saving Mourinho now??

Fraud of a manager, one would have expected that it is Sterling or Hazard that should be saving the Manchester United manager



Nigeria hospitals really need to start checking brain defects right from labour ward

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 1:41pm On Jan 10, 2017
Kagawa10:


Van gaal never spent 250mil! Bot

h Herrera and Shaw weren't his signings! His biggest big money signing were Martial and Di Maria who left as soon as he came and[b] his transfer fee were recovered.
[/b]
Upon all the money spent on Pogba, Carrick had to be brought back into the fold!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/louis-van-gaals-250million-signings-8030009
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9752714/louis-van-gaals-manchester-united-signings-rated-hits-or-misses
http://www.footballtips.com/category/betting-specials/full-list-of-louis-van-gaals-man-utd-signings-201502020045/ (this was done in 2015 before signing Martial)
http://www.101greatgoals.com/news/ratings-10-louis-van-gaals-signings-manchester-united%e2%80%8b-video/


Even if we go with the silly notion of yours that they weren't his signings, he spent close to 200 million.

Your poor diction aside, how was Di Maria's fee recovered when we bought for 60 and sold him for 44.5?
Is your brain still on christmas break?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 1:43pm On Jan 10, 2017
afrodoc2:

Why are you people arguing with someone that thinks Moyes was the right person for United? The same Moyes who has NEVER won anything of note in his managing career and has subsequently flirted with relegation everywhere he has gone.

Why waste your time with such a person?

That person was using a ludicrous "sample space" argument to justify mourinho being a failure.

I'm sure the Sunderland/Cattermole/Moyes fan who visits here every now and then is watching as well.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 1:52pm On Jan 10, 2017
Kagawa10:


Van gaal won the FA cup in his final season and was in the top 4 in the previous season.

Mourinho would have to archive similar feat or better before any compliment would be given.

He's done well so far though.

You would want to argue that jose spent lots of money this season and is in 6th.
But you don't want to hear how one grumpy old fart spent a quarter of a million players mostly on duds over two seasons and ended up with modest achievements.

So choose which side of your double-standard you want to stand on.

Scrap metal managers like Harry Redknapp and Roberto Martinez have actually won the FA Cup, while Wenger is saving himself from being an utter failure by clutching to two FA Cup wins. When you think that Tony Pulis, Alan Pardew, David Moyes, Kenny Dalglish have reached the final of the same FA Cup you are singing to the heavens about, I don't know whether to bracket it along any list of serious achievements a club manager will be putting on a CV to manage a top club like United.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 2:04pm On Jan 10, 2017
Oasis007:
"I do try to create doubts for my opponents and take away their confidence.

"I try to cause problems by taking the player on and making him feel uneasy and unsure of what he should do next."


- Anthony Martial
why oga dey reveal he secrets
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 2:08pm On Jan 10, 2017
UniqueGem:
Meanwhile grin
And Sterling has played more games. You know you're great when people pick at you.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 2:13pm On Jan 10, 2017
BushWickBill:


http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/louis-van-gaals-250million-signings-8030009
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9752714/louis-van-gaals-manchester-united-signings-rated-hits-or-misses
http://www.footballtips.com/category/betting-specials/full-list-of-louis-van-gaals-man-utd-signings-201502020045/ (this was done in 2015 before signing Martial)
http://www.101greatgoals.com/news/ratings-10-louis-van-gaals-signings-manchester-united%e2%80%8b-video/


Even if we go with the silly notion of yours that they weren't his signings, he spent close to 200 million.

Your poor diction aside, how was Di Maria's fee recovered when we bought for 60 and sold him for 44.5?
Is your brain still on christmas break?

Quick question for you, who signed Luke Shaw and Herrera?
Louis Van Gaal right? Wrong! Van Gaal had said that it would be his final job when managing the Dutch national team. He certainly wasn’t spending his time scouting players at
Southampton, just in case a club job came up. The United
job fell into his lap and due to commitments at the World
Cup it meant that Louis wouldn’t be able to concentrate
solely on United till very late in the summer. United had already scouted and prepared the deals for Luke Shaw and
Ander Herrera. Van Gaal was told that the club lacked midfielders and had no left back but that those two
deals were ready to rectify that. He agreed. It’s fair to say
that when he worked with both players he was completely
underwhelmed. The first few months of his reign were taken up with criticism of Luke Shaw in particular. He did not fit
the model of what Van Gaal expected from his full backs at
all. To Shaw’s credit he worked hard on his fitness and all
round game and its a minor tragedy that when he did begin
to finally win over the manager he suffered such a terrible
injury.
Herrera, as we already explained, was not to the managers
liking at all. Time and again he was rebuked for chasing the
ball and ending up ahead of the play. Behind the scenes
Herrera likes a moan too. The Spanish contingent at United
are a very tight bunch. Upset one and you upset them all.


This already showed Both Herrera and Shaw weren't Van gaal signings!
I really find it funny when people claims a coach who was still at the worldcup with his Holland team at the time both players were signed, was signing players for United.

Abegi!

BTW, Bastain wasn't signed for 14mil like Mirror stated, he was signed for 7.??mil, half of that fees. Once you've calculated everything Van gaal spent minus the 45mil recouped from Di maria sales, it wasn't even up to 150mil in 2 seasons! Mourinho spent 150mil in a season!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 2:22pm On Jan 10, 2017
BushWickBill:


The Moyes who said United was apiring to be like City.
The Moyes who lost by 3-nil at Old Trafford to Liverpool and City in the same season.
The Moyes who kept us oscillating between 7th and 10th on the table.

Let's be listening to his "sample space".

As for the purple font imbeci/e, I'm glad no one responds to that one.
See ehn! I dont even know what the fuss is about.

I ve never liked Mourinho. And i still dont. But there's no disputing the fact that the team is playing better. I criticised him a lot for our defensive set up early on in the season. But now that he has changed, i don kip kwayet.

If it is a must for u to hate Mourinho, at least be objective with ur criticism and acknowledge the team and the work the players are putting through to get back up the table.


As for the purple font, attention seeking gringo, ve u noticed how he keeps talking to himself?? Nobody dey even look him side grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 2:27pm On Jan 10, 2017
If I had a naira for every time I read 'I don't like mourinho' on the board, I would be richer than tompolo...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 2:32pm On Jan 10, 2017
BushWickBill:


You would want to argue that jose spent lots of money this season and is in 6th.
But you don't want to hear how one grumpy old fart spent a quarter of a million players mostly on duds over two seasons and ended up with modest achievements.

So choose which side of your double-standard you want to stand on.

Scrap metal managers like Harry Redknapp and Roberto Martinez have actually won the FA Cup, while Wenger is saving himself from being an utter failure by clutching to two FA Cup wins. When you think that Tony Pulis, Alan Pardew, David Moyes, Kenny Dalglish have reached the final of the same FA Cup you are singing to the heavens about, I don't know whether to bracket it along any list of serious achievements a club manager will be putting on a CV to manage a top club like United.



Harry Redknap and Martinez didn't win the Fa cup in their first 2 yrs in the EPl!

Van gaal was a coach who had to deal with number of injuries and rely on kids. At one time, we even had Fellaini playing in the striker role after Rooney got injured and the likes of CBJ and Varela as fullbacks. We didn't even have a worldclass striker such as Ibra except for Rooney who stunk the whole place with his sluggishness until Rashford emergence.

That's to tell you the lot of things Van gaal faced yet still archived something!

Why is it now a bad thing if similar feat is expected from Mourinho?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RooRuudRonSaha(m): 3:59pm On Jan 10, 2017
Lana1:
Ode ni e! I for ignore ur rants. But this one don pass foolishness.
How is Moyes dat took Champions to seventh with poor performances all through the season better than Mourinho's United. Were we ever even close to the top 4 wen Moyes was here??
I'd say u should use ur sense but we all know u dont ve
if you arent a fool, did moyes end the season, how many players did he purchase, u deserve a bullet to your dumb head.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 4:49pm On Jan 10, 2017
RooRuudRonSaha:
if you arent a fool, did moyes end the season, how many players did he purchase, u deserve a bullet to your dumb head.

Seriously bros? Na wah for you o.

How can you be supporting Moyes? someone that wanted to bring Man Utd down to the level of Everton?
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 5:09pm On Jan 10, 2017
PietroRico:
why oga dey reveal he secrets

grin

I wonder o!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 5:14pm On Jan 10, 2017
RooRuudRonSaha:
if you arent a fool, did moyes end the season, how many players did he purchase, u deserve a bullet to your dumb head.

grin

How many Matches remained pls, and let's assumed he won the remaining Matches - would he have made Top 4?!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 5:17pm On Jan 10, 2017
Van Gaal had 2yrs here, why don't we give the same to Jose before we compare?.

I don't even have time for Moyes issue. His stay here was a ridicule to Utd.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 5:25pm On Jan 10, 2017
Kagawa10:


Harry Redknap and Martinez didn't win the Fa cup in their first 2 yrs in the EPl!



Van Gaal had no excuse to go trophyless with the amount he spent.

Both Martinez and Redknapp won the FA Cup with teams that were relegated eventually. On budgets that were not up to 1/3 of Uniteds.
Let that sink in your cranium.

Then tell us how van Gaal who won the Champions League while I was in secondary school is now sinking to the level of grasping at straws with the same FA Cup.
Tell us now whether his "feat" of winning the FA Cup with an expensively assembles squad is anything to gloat about, if you can find any perspective to place that win.

Kagawa10:


Van gaal was a coach who had to deal with number of injuries and rely on kids. At one time, we even had Fellaini playing in the striker role after Rooney got injured and the likes of CBJ and Varela as fullbacks. We didn't even have a worldclass striker such as Ibra except for Rooney who stunk the whole place with his sluggishness until Rashford emergence.



And who signed the "world class striker Ibra" that was missing under LvG's tenure, despite splashing cash massively? My father?

All I see are excuses in bold.
It is his duty to fortify the side with adequate personnel.
This hue and cry of no striker is his business. Especially when he spent 60 million a feeble Di Maria.


Next.

Kagawa10:



[s]That's to tell you the lot of things Van gaal faced yet still [b]archived [/b]something![/s]


didn't know van Gaal worked in Records to archive anything.

The statement above means nothing. Please redo it so we can understand.

OR are you punching above your weight?

Kagawa10:



Why is it now a bad thing if similar feat is expected from Mourinho?

Oga, Mourinho is not shirking from his expectations. He boldly made his stance before the season began.

So far he is pointing the side in the right direction. Whether you like it or not, whether you accept it or not.

He has made his mistakes and will learn from them and the team will be better, unlike neophyte Moyes and arrogant van Gaal who played Ashley Young as striker and Martial wide left in the 3-nil loss to Spurs.

All you can do is peddle up half-truths, dig up worn out excuses and generally say anything to rubbish Jose and praise a failed van Gaal.

Kagawa10:





This already showed Both Herrera and Shaw weren't Van gaal signings!
I really find it funny when people claims a coach who was still at the worldcup with his Holland team at the time both players were signed, was signing players for United.

Abegi!

BTW, Bastain wasn't signed for 14mil like Mirror stated, he was signed for 7.??mil, half of that fees. Once you've calculated everything Van gaal spent minus the 45mil recouped from Di maria sales, it wasn't even up to 150mil in 2 seasons! Mourinho spent 150mil in a season!

It is on record that van Gaal signed serious duds for very exorbitant fees. and can boast of the same equivalent of Moyes (top four finish) and Martinez (FA Cup win)

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:29pm On Jan 10, 2017
I stopped believing in Van Gaal totally after that Spurs debacle in which he played Young in attack and Martial on the wing.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BushWickBill: 5:42pm On Jan 10, 2017
afrodoc2:

I stopped believing in Van Gaal totally after that Spurs debacle in which he played Young in attack and Martial on the wing.


Imagine.

And someone wants to advocate for a borderline lunatic.

Even Godwin Koko Uwua and Gbenga Ogunbote won't make such bizarre tactical somersaults. Let alone a champions league winner with a supposed high pedigree
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:08pm On Jan 10, 2017
Patiently waiting for the seasons end to come out Guns Blazing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RooRuudRonSaha(m): 6:10pm On Jan 10, 2017
Oasis007:


grin

How many Matches remained pls, and let's assumed he won the remaining Matches - would he have made Top 4?!
he wont make top 4 but he didnt spend so much on players like your current coach.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RooRuudRonSaha(m): 6:13pm On Jan 10, 2017
your opinion is yours mine is mine, anyone that doesnt like mine can kiss the dust. Mourinho hasnt done anything worthy of praises. Mourinho ends up 4th and United fans see it as a success, no that is a downgrade. Madrid wont waste time to wield the bix axe on such a coach.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:16pm On Jan 10, 2017
RooRuudRonSaha:
your opinion is yours mine is mine, anyone that doesnt like mine can kiss the dust. Mourinho hasnt done anything worthy of praises. Mourinho ends up 4th and United fans see it as a success, no that is a downgrade. Madrid wont waste time to wield the bix axe on such a coach.


PREACH!

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RooRuudRonSaha(m): 6:18pm On Jan 10, 2017
Leyqute:


Seriously bros? Na wah for you o.

How can you be supporting Moyes? someone that wanted to bring Man Utd down to the level of Everton?
where did i mention my love for moyes now, someone said moyes too united to 7th from champions level, where did mourinho take chelsea before he was fired last season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 6:35pm On Jan 10, 2017
RooRuudRonSaha:
if you arent a fool, did moyes end the season, how many players did he purchase, u deserve a bullet to your dumb head.
And if u aren't stupïd, u'd realise Mourinho hasn't even used up to 6 months and yet, we cant hear word because one Nyabingo from Ekiti keeps barking like a dog on its period.

Moyes had the same time Mourinho has had to buy players. But instead of showing some seriousness, he went from flirting with Fabregas, to wooing Alcantara, to toasting Muller only to end up buying that over sized Belgian fig tree for an extra 5 million or so.

We can not rest bcoz United lost to City at OT but we should worship Moyes that spoilt almost all the records United had. Abi was it not under the same Moyes that United lost to the likes of West Brom and Everton at OT for the first time in 20-something years. The same Moyes that said United aspired to be like City after losing to dem at OT. The same City dat United beat by 11 points the previous season o. But somehow, in Pa nyabinghi's twisted little mind, this same Moyes is better than Mourinho.

Lol. Guy u aren't a United fan. Stop claiming to b one. U are nothing more than a nonentity. A nuisance we ve to endure on this thread.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:41pm On Jan 10, 2017
RooRuudRonSaha:
where did i mention my love for moyes now, someone said moyes too united to 7th from champions level, where did mourinho take chelsea before he was fired last season.

Really?

RooRuudRonSaha:
mourinho's reserves 0 moyes's reserves 2. i know the mentioned managers are not coaching the teams. grin

RooRuudRonSaha:
Moyes' major signings

Marouane Fellaini (£27.5m)
Juan Mata (£37.1m)
Total spent: £64.6m
Premier League points: 57 in less than a season
£1.1m per point in Premier League


Van Gaal's major signings

Angel di Maria (£60m)
Luke Shaw (£30m)
Ander Herrera (£29m)
Marcos Rojo (£16m)
Daley Blind (£14m)
Radamel Falcao (£6m loan fee)
Victor Valdes (Free)
Anthony Martial (£36m)
Morgan Schneiderlin (£25m)
Memphis Depay (£25m)
Matteo Darmian (£14.4m)
Bastian Schweinsteiger (£6.3m)

Total spent: £261.7m
Premier League points: 99
£2.6m per point in Premier League spent 2 seasons


Jose mourinho's signings

Bailly £30m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Paris Saint-Germain, free transfer
Henrikh Mkhitaryan, Borussia Dortmund, £26m
Paul Pogba, Juventus, £89m
£9.85 million per point in premier league
8th position

United is really progressing.

RooRuudRonSaha:
After 10 matches : moyes in charge of utd had 17 pts, scored 17, mourinho's united spent 7 times more than moyes yet has 15 points and 13 goals scored. Is this progress elampiro your brothers no mention this, as moyes flogged mourinho's performance for united after 10 EPL matches.

nyabinghi:
Moyes dey lose you dey yab am, he dey win, some mad men here no wan gi'am credit. Bad belles, ugwu draw loading again. Arsenal demolished west ham that united begged to a draw. Your lord mou has failed. As per that idiot, i am here for you. O ti lana(you are in flames)

nyabinghi:
Moyes dey lose you dey yab am, he dey win, some mad men here no wan gi'am credit. Bad belles, ugwu draw loading again. Arsenal demolished west ham that united begged to a draw. Your lord mou has failed. As per that idiot, i am here for you. O ti lana(you are in flames)

Just admit that your brain is paining you like diggz suggested and let's forget everything.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 6:43pm On Jan 10, 2017
Shït's about to go down on bayansh thread...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:45pm On Jan 10, 2017
PietroRico:
Shït's about to go down on bayansh thread...

Thanks for the tip. wink
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 6:53pm On Jan 10, 2017
That Moyes tenure was the worst at United in the last 28 yrs.
No person in the history of man, dead or alive, hater or fan, sane or insane will come out to say United had it better under Moyes than under LVG or Mourinho
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 7:03pm On Jan 10, 2017
Again on Herrera signing

LVG:
In his first United presss conference on Thursday afternoon, Van Gaal said: 'Shaw and Herrera were already on the list. I gave my approval because I like them.

Meaning that if he didn't like them he wouldn't have signed them.
The job of a scout is to discover football talents which a coach will either approve or dissaprove.

Herrera:
I’m grateful to him because he signed me and so gave me the opportunity to play more than 70 games, in two years, at arguably the world’s largest club.

Those two quotes are in agreement and are from the main persons.

The question is who do I believe? LVG and Herrera or www.theunitedpages.com?

I choose to believe both LVG and Herrera.

Why will i believe a site like www.theunitedpages.com which is ran by an individual who wants to attract traffic to his site? Bringing a useless site to prove that LVG didn't sign Shaw and Herrera isn't going to fly. You can believe whatever you read but posting it on a public forum will always be met with scrutiny.
A site that even posted this conjecture:


Jose Mourinho’s phoney war with United’s under-performing and over-grumbling stars is over. Battle lines have been well and truly drawn.

Some of United’s biggest names have been told they can go and for a variety of reasons. The clearout is set to begin in January, depending on whether the players can find other clubs.

Wayne Rooney

The papers this morning are full of stories that Rooney has been told he can go and that United’s players are supposedly unhappy with training. It is no coincidence that every other time Rooney has faced questioning of some kind a story has then appeared in the papers where United stars are critical of their manager. We have been informed, on numerous occasions, about Rooney and his representative leaking stories to the press. In fact, he even sought to become more friendly with sections of the press during the summer. Foresight as to how events might pan out maybe? You may question his ability on the field but you can’t question his knowledge of how to work the system. It is worth noting that under Louis Van Gaal, a manager that bent over backwards to accommodate Rooney and his demands, it was the captain and his constant anonymous sniping that did for him.

We do know that it wasn’t originally for footballing reasons that Rooney was eventually dropped. Though we have been unable to confirm just how true the rumours are of him threatening and manhandling Marcus Rashford are.

Michael Carrick

Carrick is United’s vice captain, yet when Rooney was dropped it was Chris Smalling that took over the armband. This is no accident. As is the lack of playing time he has had this season despite his good performances when he has featured. Carrick also seems to suffer from the sort of loose lips that afflict the captain. Originally only kept on in the summer to help the new manager and the younger players he is now seen as a problem behind the scenes. When the class of 92 talk about United they all seem to wax lyrical about the qualities of Carrick. This is no accident.

Henrik Mkhitaryan

We first started to hear rumours of the Armenian’s unhappiness at United after the derby. The talk then was that he had burst into tears and asked to leave the club after his substitution. The staff at the club have been staggered at how mentally weak Mkhitaryan is and Mourinho has already decided he just doesn’t trust him. The current situation with his supposed injury is an interesting one. Notice just how much Mourinho bristles when he is asked about Mkhitaryan and the unconvincing way he talks about needing match sharpness. Already United are exploring ways to recoup the £26 million paid for him only a few months ago.

Matteo Darmian

At least this one is purely a football decision. Mourinho doesn’t believe Darmian is solid enough defensively for the role he wishes his full backs to perform at United. The plan is to offload Darmian back to Italy in the January window when United will go all out to sign Fabinho from Monaco. The Brazilian stands at 6ft 2 and is quick enough to be a threat down the flank too.

Jose Mourinho feels that many at United have let him down and although they might survive the original cull, once it begins, be assured that their card has been marked too. Losing weakly against his old foe Guardiola was bad enough for Mourinho but the way the team accepted a hammering at Chelsea caused serious alarm. He feels now that some are openly trying to sabotage his time at Old Trafford.

Standby for more fireworks as events play out in the coming months,

We now know that these are all cooked-up stories which has no iota of truth. On the hindsight, Mourinho has been saying it loud and clear to everyone that he's not willing to sell anyone in January transfer window unless a player that wants to leave.

I even saw this on the site:

Founder and owner of theunitedpages.com. I mainly deal with the administration of the site but have provided some articles as well as the photoshop manipulations.

Maybe someone can explain what that means to me.

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