ariesbull:
So are you trying to say that there is nothing like Yoruba before the advent of Awolowo


Now, I can satifactory say you have lost it...especially upstairs....


you are such a despicable liar ....


I played along and I knew you will goof and here you are. You goofed.


Mehn..you can lie shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

ariesbull:
So are you trying to say that there is nothing like Yoruba before the advent of Awolowo


Now, I can satifactory say you have lost it...especially upstairs....


you are such a despicable liar ....


I played along and I knew you will goof and here you are. You goofed.


Mehn..you can lie shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

BornStunner1:


AND ALSO KNEW YOU WERE ACTING LIKE AND ILLTERATE BUT NOW I CAN CONFIRM YOU ARE ONE

BornStunner1:


AND ALSO KNEW YOU WERE ACTING LIKE AND ILLTERATE BUT NOW I CAN CONFIRM YOU ARE ONE

blues20:

[s]The dude is a confused jack. He keeps going back and fort without definite direction or position. Its a known fact that the Aniomas are western Igbos that got mix up with Benin, Igala and even Yoruba migrant, the case of Ogbodu - Olukumi - comes to mind. I once met an Ogodu guy in Awka sometime last year on project. He told me clearly his people migrated from Ondo, but are currently in Delta like century ago. He is bilingual, both in his native Delta Igbo and the very distant Yoruba he speaks. So you could see that this guys retain their language and also adopted the Igbo language because of lasting interaction.
In conclusion, you can succinctly say that Anioma is mixture of different ethnic group, but with Igbos having the majority due early migration patter and aboriginal right. The Igbos were already well settled in Western Side of the Niger before this new wave of migrant from the West trouped in. This is why the Igbo language, culture, names and tradition prevailed over the rest, because onye we' ali is a complete diali.
This is my opinion[/s].

KingOvoramwen1:
ALL ANIOMA AND IGBO KINGS ARE SUBJECT OF THE BENIN EMPIRE......

IF U WANTO DIE THE LAGOON IS ALWAYS OPEN LIKE THE OBA OF LAGOS ADVISED YOU IGBOS!!

THE GREAT BENIN EMPIRE

Oba gha to kpehe isee

blues20:

The dude is a confused jack. He keeps going back and fort without definite direction or position. Its a known fact that the Aniomas are western Igbos that got mix up with Benin, Igala and even Yoruba migrant, the case of Ogbodu - Olukumi - comes to mind. I once met an Ogodu guy in Awka sometime last year on project. He told me clearly his people migrated from Ondo, but are currently in Delta like century ago. He is bilingual, both in his native Delta Igbo and the very distant Yoruba he speaks. So you could see that this guys retain their language and also adopted the Igbo language because of lasting interaction.
In conclusion, you can succinctly say that Anioma is mixture of different ethnic group, but with Igbos having the majority due early migration patter and aboriginal right. The Igbos were already well settled in Western Side of the Niger before this new wave of migrant from the West trouped in. This is why the Igbo language, culture, names and tradition prevailed over the rest, because onye we' ali is a complete diali.
This is my opinion.

gerg:
90% of Anioma migratory stories traces their origin to Bini. All your talks of aborigine is mere speculation and concoction. I never seen anybody bring out solid prove to igbo aborigines in Anioma area. All the oldest Anioma kingdoms said they came from Bini. So you want to tell me Anioma people don't know where their founders come from?

THE ANIOMA HAVE WHAT THE IGBOS NEVER HAD AND WILL NEVER HAVE.....

CLASS...PRIDE.... TRADITION TRACING DOWN TO THE GREAT BENIN EMPIRE...

WHO WANTS TO SOCAILIZE WITH A PPL HUMILATED AND BATTERED FROM A CIVIL WAR THEY BROUGHT ON THEMSELVES OUT OF GREED!!

blues20:

Chai!! see land grabbing. So you mean Asaba that is Igbo both tongue and culture is Edoid?

BornStunner1:


THE ANIOMA HAVE WHAT THE IGBOS NEVER HAD AND WILL NEVER HAVE.....

CLASS...PRIDE.... TRADITION TRACING DOWN TO THE GREAT BENIN EMPIRE...

WHO WANTS TO SOCAILIZE WITH A PPL HUMILATED AND BATTERED FROM A CIVIL WAR THEY BROUGHT ON THEMSELVES OUT OF GREED!!

BornStunner1:


THE ANIOMA HAVE WHAT THE IGBOS NEVER HAD AND WILL NEVER HAVE.....

CLASS...PRIDE.... TRADITION TRACING DOWN TO THE GREAT BENIN EMPIRE...

WHO WANTS TO SOCAILIZE WITH A PPL HUMILATED AND BATTERED FROM A CIVIL WAR THEY BROUGHT ON THEMSELVES OUT OF GREED!!

ianSweet:


The Attah of igala land may not allow such referendum in Igala land because he will not want anything that will divide his people.
Islam and Christianity is already a huge factor of differentiation among his people. I think Idomas may be in a better position for this.

ianSweet:


Most South-south and middlebelt minority groups will not choose Biafra because of fear of uncertainty and distrust for Igbos, i can assure you.
Gone were the days when the Eastern region was one and the Igbos so powerful in deciding the fate of neighbouring minorities.
If Igbos will ever win the heart and trust of their minority neighbours, they have to work to earn it. Otherwise i advise igbos to just stick to the South-east if their agitation will ever make sense.

“They Tricked Us Into Fighting Igbos During Civil War” – Middle Belt Group
The Bridge Network August 9, 2016 Biafra, Local, News Leave a comment 1 Views



THE United Middle Belt Youth Congress (UMBYC), a group at the forefront of mapping out the North Central geopolitical zone as Middle Belt has lampooned the north for lining up soldiers from the zone against the Igbos during the Nigerian civil war.

They said the core north easily achieved this by exploiting the command structure of the military and manufacturing fear that Biafra is out to overrun them.

“We know the ignorant years that have passed when we went to war. When they mobilised us to war and told us ‘ah they want to terminate you people. The Igbos are majority and in fact they are coming to swallow you people'”

“A lot of us went to the bush to fight. I know how many families of our brothers that we lost in that war. Not to talk about our other brothers, the Igbos who we went to fight ignorantly.”

The president-general, Abuka Omababa disclosed this during a courtesy visit of the group to The Moment in Ogudu, Lagos recently saying that the hackneyed concept of ‘one north’ was also crafted with the connivance of the British to mislead the rest of the country into believing an existence of a gigantic and awesome ‘north’.

He added that while it was disheartening enough that they were manipulated into a fratricidal war with the Igbo, the Hausa/Fulani ‘were in Sokoto and Kano relaxing and watching the two of us kill each other.’

The group consequently declared that the days they were play-thing in the hands of ‘the North’ are over for good. They therefore extend a hand of fellowship to other ethnic nationality groups in Nigeria saying that ‘without us there is no north; no Middle Belt, no North. If we remove ourselves they are disconnected from Nigeria. So we are the bridge. We have served as the bridge.’

The group said that serial cases of religious intolerance in the north are championed by the Hausa/Fulani who are moulded to perceive non-Muslim practitioners with distaste. They dissociated the Middle Belt from it saying they see others as members of a single humanity rather than with religious or other colourations.

‘Prior to the coming of the British, we were occupying our land. We are democratic. We are freethinkers in our various nationalities. If you see a Langtang family; they may have one Muslim, one Christian and one pagan; they cohabit and you will not know the difference.’

‘Whenever there is riot in the north, it affects us. Our people run like any other southerner. If you look at these youth corps members that were killed, they brought two to Kogi. So, if Kogi is north, then why is north burying their children?’

Though they blamed the British for grouping and lumping them together with the north, they were insistent that the Middle Belt is not north. Thus, they ask for the official regrouping of Nigeria where they are recognised as distinct federating unit.

‘We want our identity to be known. We want to bear our name. We don’t want to be covered again…we have the right to determine our own identity…. And we have decided that we are going to do it legitimately. We want to be officially regrouped as Middle Belt region.

‘We have the Niger Delta that has been officially regrouped. They are minorities in the south like we are minorities lumped into the north.’

They maintain that gone are the days when they are used as a buffer to protect and comfort the north. They did not see any reason why they would only be used by the north to gather votes during election, and food during scarcity but discarded just as soon as the ‘hegemonic’ north is satisfied.

‘Our resources and land remain closed under the northern Nigeria. And what they do is; if it is time to make use of numbers, our population, they say yes we are relevant. After that; no we are no more relevant.’

‘Thanks to the struggle of June 12 which brought President Olusegun Obasanjo to power in 1999. While making appointments he brought General Victor Malu as Chief of Army Staff, Saliu Ibrahim and the rest, then, the north through late Alhaji Wada Nas rose and said that these people do not represent northern interest.

‘It is a clear thing that we do not belong there. We want to be separate people, and so shall it be.’

They went on to reiterate their backing to the evolution of a fiscal federalism where the federating units will control the resources in their geographical sphere.

‘Make the centre less attractive, so that if you are going there, it is for service. We from the Middle Belt, we will pay our taxes. They should leave Ajaokuta for us; they should leave all those gold, columbite, timber and other solid minerals found in the Middle Belt for us to develop our community.

‘What we are saying is that they have concentrated too much power at the centre which is the reason everybody wants to kill others in order to get there. Every region will have to pay tax to the Federal Government.’

Then they upped the ante with some other bold demands.

‘We said we need our own 13 per cent from electricity. We need 13 per cent from Ajaokuta, from solid minerals coming from Middle Belt, even from our food. If you see the level of farm work going on in the Middle Belt, you will see why we agitate for Farming Development Commission to provide modern equipment and health facilities.

‘Give us also HYPODEC – Hydro Power Development Commission – which Jonathan has already granted and signed into law but has not constituted the board.’

While tracing the history of their struggle for identity, they say that at great cost their progenitors like Ameh Oboni, David Lot and JS Tarka had kick-started this resistance which people like Paul Unongo had continued.

They say that while they remain in touch with their parent body – United Middle Belt Congress (UMBC) – they are determined to add youthful vigour to it, and facilitate the realisation of their dreams of emancipation from northern hegemony and resource control.

‘The issue of Middle Belt identity started with the late Ameh Oboni and Attah of Igala. At the northern emirs’ meeting, when the Sultan of Sokoto and the rest came, he was told to remove his cap; he said no that the Hausa/Fulani has never been commanders of Igala, and Igalas has never bowed down to them.

‘So they threatened that they will show him where he belongs at the next meeting; he too retorted he will show them where they belong. At the next meeting, they insisted and forcefully removed his cap, from which emanated stinging bees that disrupted the meeting. All the emirs ran away except him. But that is the local way of struggling against the domination of the Hausa/Fulani.

‘Late Dr. JS Tarka and Paul Unongo, because they were educated, brought it to international attention through the UMBC – United Middle Belt Congress of those days. So the struggle for Middle Belt identity has been on.

They added that when Usman Dan Fodio came with a jihad in 1804, he conquered Kastina, Sokoto and Kano but could not conquer the Lantang and the Birong peoples of Plateau. He was also said not to have defeated Taraba when the state comprised Igala, Jukuns and Tiv peoples.

‘He could not conquer us. He could not conquer Middle Belt. So when the British were going they said that these people are difficult to conquer in war, so give them indirect rule system. Co-opt them through the Atta of Igala, through the Gbomgbom of Jos. That is how the British played us to the monolithic north’ the group’s president-general explained.

The Moment’s Editor in charge of daily operations, Martin Azuwike who received the group urged them to continue in the part of non-violent struggle. He said that the nation has so much security concerns which if they resort to violence, Nigeria will have more than a mouthful to chew.

He also said the newspaper will always report their activities with a sense of balance and fairness to others.

cheruv:

Too bad
You're very brilliant in Bini history but coming to Anioma history you're a complete ìtì...as in eh you know nothing there. You and Cire80 are in the same boat even though you're a bit better than him

ianSweet:


From what i have studied about my people's history, truly we have origins common with Igbos, but overtime, our Igbo similarities have been heavily diluted by other influences.

Igalas were conquered by Kwararafa kingdom for instance and today almost 40% of Igalas now claim Kwararafa origin including the current Attah Of Igala.
Many Hausas came to Igala land to trade and the spread of islam came and many of these Hausas were absorbed into Igala. Today if u go to Ankpa axis in Igala land, majority of them are muslims and they will tell u that they have hausa origins.
Also, i think Igalas traded a lot with yorubas before the Egbirras came from Kwararafa kingdom and cut igala boundary with yoruba off, this is why igala and yoruba are similar languages.
So, you can see the many influences.

hammerF:


Point of correction Igala and yoruba languages are not similar, that is a lie.

RedboneSmith:


Igala and Yoruba languages are more than similar. They are sister languages. That is a well-established fact. Have you looked at both languages?

hammerF:


Wettin Idoma language go come tell u? Yoruba has no claims or relations to Igala, that falsehood must stop.

RedboneSmith:


[s]Again, the materials to study both languages are available. This matter is not even open for debate any more. The facts are out. Igala is a Yoruboid language.[/s]

hammerF:


I have better things to do than engage in the crap ur saying. A group that Yoruba dont even share a border with.

Ebira that u share a border with are almost speaking igbo and answering igbo names.

I hope u know Mercy Johnson name is Ozioma? She is Ebira.

RedboneSmith:


What do you mean 'u share border with'? I am not Yoruba.

If you want to know what Yoruba and Igala actually are like, I can send you materials to read for yourself.

Coming to Ozioma, the name doesn't mean 'Good news' in Ebira, the similarity in sound is coincidental.

Does Yoruba share bother with Olukumi in Aniocha. Even the Itsekiri are seperated from mainstrean Yoruba by some Ijaw groups. Yet they speak Yoruboid languages.

BornStunner1:


AND ALSO KNEW YOU WERE ACTING LIKE AND ILLTERATE BUT NOW I CAN CONFIRM YOU ARE ONE

RedboneSmith:


What do you mean 'u share border with'? I am not Yoruba.

If you want to know what Yoruba and Igala languages actually are like, I can send you materials to read for yourself.

Coming to Ozioma, the name doesn't mean 'Good news' in Ebira, the similarity in sound is coincidental.

Does Yoruba share bother with Olukumi in Aniocha. Even the Itsekiri are seperated from mainstrean Yoruba by some Ijaw groups. Yet they speak Yoruboid languages.

Cire80:
You and your brothers have selective blindness but others that are reading our comments with an unbiased mind know who knows the history better between you and me. They also know the imposter is. And who is being more balanced in his comments.

hammerF:
@RedboneSmith: send me the material or better yet post it here.

Tell me one similar igala and yoruba word? Just one is all i ask.

How do u equate two separate entity that dont even share border as similar?

That is just propaganda and lies.

hammerF:
@RedboneSmith: send me the material or better yet post it here.

Tell me one similar igala and yoruba word? Just one is all i ask.

How do u equate two separate entity that dont even share border as similar?

That is just propaganda and lies.

hammerF:


Itsekiri and Olukumi are very bad examples.

Let me ask u? How did Olukumi or wateva u call them get into Anioma? That is very suspicious.

As for the Itsekiri, they are Ijaw mixed with yoruba and that is y u get Ijaw groups separating them from mainstream yoruba.

I hope u understand the difference between these scenario and the Igala. Igala is not a yoruboid language, that is certain.

They are not mixed with yoruba.