Conner44:
omo see motor

as I opened this thread and saw the pictures my pr*ck just "stand" immediately

too sexy

I love honda

Conner44:
omo see motor

as I opened this thread and saw the pictures my pr*ck just "stand" immediately

too sexy

I love honda

Kashif:
Toyota will go for reliability, rather than aesthetics any time. While Honda likes newest gadgets/technology, Toyota likes 'tested and trusted'. They will wait for a year or more for the teething period to pass. Meanwhile do you you consider cost of ownership? If that camera side mirror is broken, it will come with considerable financial setback. For me, the handleless door is a minus.

rainmaker12:

'the' car will get you to anywhere. whether 2000 model or 2019. If i am buying a modern car, im buying it for the techs it packs. Why will i wait 3-4 years when its outdated, or under-valued. Toyotas are known for backwardness in tech right from time. Honda pushed in remote trunk open and rear disc brakes from 1998 accord, till 2003 camry still dosent have disc brakes and remote trunk.... or they are testing them if it will last forever?..lol
Cost of maintenance is not an option. If it breaks i fix it. Of course it will be expensive whether it has camera or not.

slimmoney:
Team honda 4 life

greenhulk:


I'm a Honda guy but what u said is not true. Maybe u don't understand that cars have trims. I am very sure a 2001 Toyota camry XLE has both front and rear disc brakes. I once had a base model 2005 Honda Accord that doesn't have disc brakes at the back, only the front. The LX and ex have disc brakes but the base model doesn't have, this also applies to Toyota Camry.

rainmaker12:
check this 2018 best selling models
take note of honda camera based side mirrors, touch door handles and exhaust tips as to that of the toyotas old generation style.

xvbill:
For me the honda lacks a Superior look. Thats just baseless design with no soul

Toyota started as a company that produced fabric looms, and the company decided to diversify into making cars in the 1930's. They applied the expertise of running a large industrial company to the challenge of building and selling cars. Toyota's claim to fame is the Toyota Production System, which allowed them to build high quality products and eliminate defects along the way. Culturally, Toyota is very focused on success as a company, and they are very focused on processes and statistics to keep the machine humming smoothly.

Case in point- the 1997 Camry was designed with one goal in mind- to be cheaper to manufacture without sacrificing reliability. The 1992-1996 Camry was already a successful product, so they did not make it more fuel efficient, roomier, safer, or faster. They simply made it easier to assemble and removed features like triple sealed doors which they felt were unnecessary in that market.

Toyota has many more models than Honda, and they have perfected the use of common platforms to produce a wide variety of vehicle types with common engines and other components.

Honda, in contrast, is a car company, focused on making cars. Their founder was a bona-fide gearhead and always wanted to make cars. Honda as a company is passionate about engineering the best that they can build for a given price. They are sometimes not so smart about product-market fit. (e.g. the Ridgeline and Acura RL)

Honda pioneered variable valve timing technology and their engines are the best in the world. The import tuner community has embraced Honda because of this- they incorporate expensive features like double wishbone suspensions and forged crankshafts into their products, features which add cost but are all but unnoticeable to the average buyer. They redesign their products from the ground up on a regular schedule and will take risks when Toyota will not.


I don't think there's a substantial difference in reliability between a Honda and Toyota product, but there is a difference in terms of cost. With fewer models across which to amortize engineering costs, and shorter model cycles, it simply costs more to produce a Civic than a Corolla. This is why Honda doesn't offer as many incentives, and the out the door price of a Corolla is significantly different than a Civic.

As a company, Toyota is clearly better. But Hondas are better cars.

kingreign:

So these cosmetics add ons are what you consider 'technologcally advanced'?
Na wa o.