babadee1:


If you think only Boko Haram is doing all the killings then you have allowed yourself to be deceived. Even people who call themselves Christians have been killing too and this should not be so. Persecution of Christians did not start today, it started from the very beginning of the faith. If Christians back then decided to fight and kill back against their enemies then the faith would not have endured till today. I am speaking purely from a spiritual perspective now. It is very wrong to ask Christians to kill anybody for any reason at all. God will punish anybody who teaches such a thing, whether he is a bishop or not doesn't matter.

yaki84:
Op na afonja.........



Coward n a betrayer.


Infact op na tonye iscariot!

LordIsaac:

No....you can defend yourself where there is no security agent in sight. However, I'll do all I can to let the security do their job if I can catch one. For "whoever kills by the sword shall die by it." That's what Christ told Peter when they came to his territory to catch and "kill" his master.

felicitywe:
To create a thread dat he made such a statement is nt enough evidence bc we v seen where yoruba guys on nairaland will create lie and push it up but for d wisdom of d op in nairaland.at what forum did he make such statemnt nd what tells u he was refering to ethnic clashes.mind u im nt a member of his church.

babadee1:


Lol. You would hope so.

Splinz:
Oyedebo is simply ranting. The fact is, something is definitely wrong with mainstream 'churchianity'.

Imagine such an outburst from a supposedly man of God? Very unchristian!

Here's the thing. It is either Oyedebo is not well versed in Scriptures to know the mind of God concerning persecutions and attacks on true Christians (he can never claim that all those meaningless curses were from God), or he's simply deceiving himself.

Does it mean that he doesn't trust God to save His own? Is God no longer the ALMIGHTY capable of wiping off all His enemies within a twinkling of an eye if He so wish? Does Oyedebo not trust His promises?

The Scriptures says: "The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and He knoweth them that trust in Him" (Nahum 1:7).

This is what we know and testify to! And no power can touch the Lord's elects!

Naija9090:


Arrant Nonesense. Where were you when hundreds and thousands were massacred and butchered in Benue and Southern Kaduna? I don't support violence but be fair to write a long epistle like this when Christians are maimed and massacred for nothing! Is Buhari paying you to write this? Who is paying you?

asuustrike2009:

Don't worry other states will experience Kaduna fate then you would understand better. I don't know why human being is selfish

ScotsReferendum:
Tonyebarcanista don't cross your boundary without first confirming from God who inspired his speech

Be very careful through prayers

May be when your family is visited by herdsmen then will you reason properly

PMIcon:
The Bible is clear about the Christians reaction. If you can't take it abuse those who refuse to be churchbench warmers, who have decided to trust God and obey His word.

19"My dear brothers and sisters, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry, 20because human anger does not produce the righteousness that God desires.
21Therefore, get rid of all moral filth and the evil that is so prevalent and humbly accept the word planted in you, which can save you." James 1:19-21

"14Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse...
17Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.
19Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written:
“It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord.
20On the contrary:
“If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”
21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
Romans 12:14-21

TonyeBarcanista st=52779227:
What will Jesus do?

Texco10:
Go and read how God lead the people of Israel in the Bible and if they didn't kill their enemy or God didn't order them to do so. God ordered them to kill the Amolokites,Philippines, Palestinians and others

Splinz:
Oyedebo is simply ranting. The fact is, something is definitely wrong with mainstream 'churchianity'.

Imagine such an outburst from a supposedly man of God? Very unchristian!

Here's the thing. It is either Oyedebo is not well versed in Scriptures to know the mind of God concerning persecutions and attacks on true Christians (he can never claim that all those meaningless curses were from God), or he's simply deceiving himself.

Does it mean that he doesn't trust God to save His own? Is God no longer the ALMIGHTY capable of wiping off all His enemies within a twinkling of an eye if He so wish? Does Oyedebo not trust His promises?

The Scriptures says: "The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and He knoweth them that trust in Him" (Nahum 1:7).

This is what we know and testify to! And no power can touch the Lord's elects!

iluvdonjazzy:
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cheap fraud, pls dats d numbers the fraudstar
used, lets track dem down so dat innocent people
woult fall to their trap like one retired officer did.

dabongys:
Mr OP, kindly tell us what we should do when at night a fulani herdsman comes into the neighborhood armed. Let's really have your suggestion. Thanks.

TonyeBarcanista:


Unfortunately, making inciting statements only worsen the problem and causes more deaths. FACT! Beside, it is 100% Unchristian-like and absolutely unlawful

iluvdonjazzy:
ATM BLOCK due to our BVN SYSTEM UPGRADE,
YOUR ATM CARD HAS JUST BEEN DE-
ACTIVATED, TO RE-ACTIVATE KINDLY CALL CBN
HELPLINE, 07035156653 , 09064909389. end of
quote, by this time so people are still into this
cheap fraud, pls dats d numbers the fraudstar
used, lets track dem down so dat innocent people
woult fall to their trap like one retired officer did.

Nudoibaretep:



Your need total deliverance from brain drain, u are not in your right senses. Think before you talk.

peacesamuel94:
the op was trying to stir up criticism against the Bishop in order to gain cheap likes, but everything has backfired on him and to think that alot of people had so much respect for him, my advice is that he should stop viewing the thread to prevent suicide. doh.

FriendChoice:


The answer is no. So as the answer to the Fulani people.

But before now: Past regimes have solved the problem by establishing ranches.

As time goes on:Farmers decided to extend their cultivation up to those allocated reserves for rearing and thus no more ranches for livestock to feed on.

My question to you, who cause the problem at the initial stage?

PMIcon:

Pray and run.
"If you are persecuted in one city, flee to another." JESUS

jusRadical:


Which likes? Only 39 self.

jusRadical:




Go and investigate. Many communities that replied those folks violently are no-go-areas to the herdsmen. I know some.

I wish they will attack you, give you long or short sleeve so that I will hear what you will say.

TonyeBarcanista:
By TonyeBarcanista

I read the well publicized article in which respected Bishop David Oyedepo of Winners Chapel called for the killing and sliding of throats of potential Muslims/Fulani attackers. In the words of Oyedepo

“You catch anyone that looks like them, kill him! There is no reporting to anybody. Kill him! Pull off his neck! And we spill his blood on the ground. What nonsense.”

Bishop Oyedepo Views Against Christian Doctrine:
The call by Bishop Oyedepo with due respect goes contrary to the Christian teachings going by what is recorded in the Bible as well as Bible teaching on how Christians should live.

Firstly, Jesus, our perfect example displayed it when in the book of Matthew 26:52, he condemned Apostle Peter for cutting off the ears of one of the servants of the High Priest that went to arrest him, named Malchus. Jesus not only healed the servant but admonished Peter that "for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

The action of Jesus Christ in the above story was in line with his teaching in the Mountain as recorded in Matthew 5:44, where he said But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;, as against "an eye for an eye" treatment that was practised by the Judaisers under the Mosaic law that was never perfect.

His disciples and the Christian Church lived according to this teaching by not retaliating even in the height of persecution during the Roman empire that saw Apostles Paul beheaded, Peter crucified under Emperor Nero, and other members of the early Church die violent deaths under the rule of Roman emperors. In fact, during that period, God showed John the beloved revelation of the last day BUT never did he empower him to retaliate or kill.

If Jesus Christ and the early Church stuck to Christian doctrine, where did Bishop Oyedepo got his own authority?

What Makes Us Christians:
The believers were first called Christians in Antioch because they displayed the rare characters of Jesus Christ. If this is true, it is safe that the thing that made us Christians is our leading of the life of Christ, not that of any man irrespective of title. If we can't be like Christ and heed to his teachings then we have no business calling ourselves Christians. Jesus stance against retaliating to the oppressing Romans made the Jews to prefer him to die instead of the violent Barnabas. We must be like Christ by insisting on non violence.

If Apostle James could admonished the early Church that was facing trials of various kind because of their faith to "count it all joy", how much more us?



His Call Against Nigeria Law:
Despite the fact that we have choose to accept our society to be lawless, the law of Nigeria is clearly against incite to kill fellow citizens and residents, as well as taking laws into ones hands aka self help.

The only authority empowered to bring defaulters of the law to justice is the Police and other agents of the State. No citizen has that power. As citizen, it is our civil duty to avail the Police and other security agents information to arrest criminals potential criminals and their activities. While jungle justice is usually employed by citizens due to ineptitude of the authorities, it never made the act right. But for one to incite the gruesome killing of people that "appear" as attackers and not just attackers, it is unfortunate. statement like “You catch anyone that looks like them, kill him!” must be condemned by all, and without partiality.

If these statements were made by Asari Dokubo or Nnamdi Kanu, I am very sure that the authorities won't take it lightly. The law must respect nobody irrespective of perceived standing in the society.

Statements Endangering Christians And Non Christians:
BEfore any war is fought, there is usually inciting statements from so called leaders. The statements credited to some Muslim groups and clerics, as well as this credited to Governor Elrufai and Bishop Oyedepo is what fuels sectarian violence in Nigeria. Truth is, should there be violence (like we have in Southern Kaduna), it is ONLY the defenceless innocent that get killed, while the elites and their families are fully secured. Nigerians, both Christians and Muslims must understand that the elite are never enemies irrespective of their noise in the media.

The statement of Oyedepo is capable of causing counter statement from some Islamic leaders and attack on citizens will start. The statement is not different from those of Abubakar Shekau or other extremists like Miyetti leaders and some other muslim fanatical clergies.

I condemn the genocide in Southern Kaduna, it is my belief that agents of Kaduna state government as well leaders of Miyetti Allah are complicit in this shameful killing. It is my hope that a case is established against perpetrators of the violence to higher authorities (like the ICC), but it does not in anyway justify incitement against anybody or group of persons.

As Christians we must adhere STRICTLY to Christian doctrine and not apostasy! Bishop David Oyedepo must be called to order.

I shall end this with the Words of Apostle Paul to the Church in Ephesus when the Church was under persecution in the book of Ephesians 6:12;

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


May God Bless Us All And Bless Nigeria

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