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Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by APCmyheart(m): 12:31am On Jan 16, 2017 |
zendy: But your likes blame the entire Muslims for any crisis in the North... 2 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by APCmyheart(m): 12:33am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Qelvin: LOL Min dhas taken me so many countries, I live in my own houses and have my own business. Hope when that arrest you for drugs where you are and ready to be killed you will understand better.. 1 Like |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by jagorinho: 12:36am On Jan 16, 2017 |
ipodstinks:yorubas will always cancel their threats, if they can't dominate you,you will become their enemy,i have never seen a group of people that have insatiable lust for power and control but unfortunately they are not tactical just emotions 1 Like |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by raumdeuter: 12:40am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Qelvin: Thats because some are cry babies and they are playing to get sympathies of the international communities. Th Buafran drew the first blood, commited a lot of atrocities in the mid west Go and read Nowa Omoiguis records Outright molestation, harassment and killing of non-Ibo civilians occurred on a daily basis. At night "suspected saboteurs" were fished out of their homes and arrested. The Hausa community in the Lagos street area of Benin and other parts of the state were targeted for particularly savage treatment, in part a reprisal for the pogroms of 1966, but also out of security concerns that they would naturally harbor sympathies for the regime in Lagos. But non-Hausas were just as badly treated. And as the hostility of the local population became more intense, so did the degree of indiscrete brutality for "internal security". Non-Ibo alumni of St. Patrick's College, Asaba and Government College, Ughelli, found to their chagrin that old school ties meant nothing in the new dispensationhttp://www.dawodu.net/midwest.htm 5 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by Qelvin(m): 12:41am On Jan 16, 2017 |
APCmyheart:Liar oshi, who you dey deceive with your many countries and houses crap |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by Qelvin(m): 12:43am On Jan 16, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Biafrans drew the first blood? Interesting which side then fired the first Salvo of shots?? |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by raumdeuter: 12:44am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Qelvin: You killed other peoples leaders on Jan 15 1966 including the Aare Ona Kakanfo of Yorubaland Ladoke Akintola 4 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by laudate: 12:49am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Qelvin: What do you mean by a neutral version? I have asked you to read a book written by a soldier who was at the battlefront in Ore, and also provided the name of the person who led the platoon at Ore. And you are still asking for a 'neutral' source? Oh, you believe the account of Madiebo who was not anywhere near Ore, is far more superior to that of Godwin Alabi-Isama who watched Major Raphael Iluyomade in action, at Ore? Okay, here is another account. let us hope you would believe this one. Quick Kill in Slow Motion:] The Nigerian Civil War by Major Michael R. Stafford, USA | |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by johntolu: 12:53am On Jan 16, 2017 |
[color=#006600][/color] mildflame: The Igbos were well represented in the Ahmadu Bello/Tafawa Balèwa government. They even had better representation than they had under GEJ Presidency. Besides having the upper hand in the officer cadre of the military, they also held sway in the political sphere. The President of the country then was Dr. Nnamdi Azikwe. The Senate President was Dr Nwafor Oritzu. The Speaker of the House of Reps. was Dr. Jaja Nwachukwu. They also occupied 'juicy' ministries as Ministers, in addition to been well represented in all cadre of the Federal civil service. During the 1st Republic, there was no cry of 'marginalization', by the Igbos. They were all Nationalists then, and the Yorubas, Who were in opposition then, were labeled as 'tribalists'. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by laudate: 12:54am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Qelvin: Guy, you want me to keep spoon-feeding you with information, kwa? Google is your friend. Do the research. The agreement between Ojukwu and Ejoor is well known. And the first shot was fired from Garkem, not Garden. That area is within the Middle-Belt or old north-Central region, not the old Midwest region. So why did Ojukwu order an attack on the old Midwest, instead of Garkem?? 3 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by eaglechild: 12:56am On Jan 16, 2017 |
I wonder the aim of this thread. And what makes a one sided narrative from a witness who apparently has omniscient and telepathic powers ( he was upstairs and heard all the conversations including the ones that took place kilometers from the house), to become concrete truth. I condemn the coup and the cold blooded killings but we should never accept one sided narratives as plain truth. 1 Like |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by afroxyz: 1:02am On Jan 16, 2017 |
irynterri: Oh my lord! I love you for this. Their Mates/juniors were leafing battalions and the country and fools here are arguing. Is that not enough reason to ask about the future of the youths? |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by Octaves(m): 1:05am On Jan 16, 2017 |
from other lists, I've seen the ethnic make-up if that coup was roughly balanced between the Igbo Yorubas and northerners. I don't know what the op is hoping to achieve with this 1 Like |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by laudate: 1:09am On Jan 16, 2017 |
eaglechild: 'One-sided' in what way? The man's wife was alive & present in the house, when they came to arrest her husband, o! At the scene where Pam was executed, there were soldiers who watched the act being carried out. So witnesses were present. 4 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by ImperialYoruba: 1:18am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Qelvin: In that case there's nothing special about Biafra fighting and holding Nigeria and its allies back for three years. That was not an Ibo feat of brevity and strength,since there were Yorubas in the Biafran force. Your Biafran effort was backboned by Yoruba inclusion. 4 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by Nobody: 1:18am On Jan 16, 2017 |
bigtt76: A year and 9 months? |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by eaglechild: 1:19am On Jan 16, 2017 |
laudate:The man was driven away from the house and the conversations continued beyond there. The person narrating the story is the son who remained in the house along with the rest of the family. I have said that I condemn the coup but I still remain firm in saying that such narratives cannot be held as concrete truth. 1 Like |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by ImperialYoruba: 1:32am On Jan 16, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Its typical Ibo. They throw shyyte out, when you ccouner it with fact backed evidence they hide behind their women wrappers. Bloody cowards. All they know to do is sneak up in night on people in bed. No gut no backbone no bravery to face off with opponents. 4 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by johntolu: 1:33am On Jan 16, 2017 |
[color=#006600][/color] AnanseK: I pray it does not get to that level, Bros. The reality on the ground politically is different from what is going on in the social media. Most writeups and comments on social media, are actually reflections of the pains most of us are going through, as a result of the economic meltdown, in the country. I will only take the 'Biafra' threat seriously, when their political leaders, resign from their elective posts and start clamouring for 'Biafra' state, until then, in Brotherhood we stand. 2 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by OAUTemitayo: 1:38am On Jan 16, 2017 |
raumdeuter:Egbon Dayokanu |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by ImperialYoruba: 1:41am On Jan 16, 2017 |
johntolu: Do you understand what Anansek is saying in that post? Im not sure you got it. If you did you will not respond with what you said here. Death to Ibo! 1 Like |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by ImperialYoruba: 1:44am On Jan 16, 2017 |
eaglechild: So what happened to Pam? His body was recovered with bullets in it. How did he die? 3 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by bigtt76(f): 1:46am On Jan 16, 2017 |
You think after all these years, he still remains a year and 9 months old? Haba bros..... Why naaaaa opal4real: |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by effty(m): 2:33am On Jan 16, 2017 |
thinkative:Including the ones fired into the air right? Don't be a joke. |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by Qelvin(m): 2:50am On Jan 16, 2017 |
laudate:Provide the source or stop feeding enlightened minds here with lies, you made the claim that Ejoor and Ojukwu had some kind of agreement about not invading the Midwest, so it's also within your prerogative to back that up with some source? And I meant to write Garkem...it was the autocorrect stuff...dude are you this slow? The Federal side fired the first shots on Biafran territory so Biafra had every right to respond in kind my attacking Federal soil, why not go ask Ojukwu in his grave why he decided to invade the Midwest? |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by Qelvin(m): 2:57am On Jan 16, 2017 |
laudate:Of course every ardent student of history knows Biafrans were unprepared for the war, even the Midwest invasion was a preemptive effort to force the Nigerian troops to the negotiation table and withdraw the bulk of their First infantry Division fighting in Biafra! So there is hardly anything in these report that contradicts my point, you have the burden of proof to provide another account that collaborates Major Iluyomade's so called heroics at Ore so we have no case here, I haven't come across a single report from those that fought in the Midwest that validates any claim of a paltry amount of Federal soldiers holding back the Biafrans at Ore...all I know for a fact is that Biafrans were halted at Ore and saw little or no action till they were asked to withdraw without even a fight. |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by johntolu: 3:06am On Jan 16, 2017 |
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Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by Qelvin(m): 3:22am On Jan 16, 2017 |
ImperialYoruba:You were not there to see how he died yeah? If so then why not tell us in full details how Pam died? if you were asked to swear with your life on behalf of these account of how he died that you just read, would you die? |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by ceejay4real(m): 3:56am On Jan 16, 2017 |
seunmsg: Then what would you say of savages that killed wantonly and without giving their victims any form of respect in the July 29th, 1966 coup? At least Anuforo was courteous while he was firm about obeying orders. Besides, if Pam hadn't rushed to inform Ironsi and Maimalari the coup would have been a huge success in Lagos just as it was in Kaduna and from what I read about the coup, there would not have been any need to kill him, Kur Muhammed, the Prime minister, the finance minister and many others in Lagos. The coup had to kill them off when Ironsi started raising troops against them and with their lives on the line they just had to kill their captives so as to be on their toes! Most Nigerian youths don't read they just make wild comments out of tribal hate and prejudice against the Igbos any time politics is being discussed. Are books that expensive? Na wa ooh! You are just a fvcking tribal bigot! Shame on you! |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by johntolu: 4:10am On Jan 16, 2017 |
ImperialYoruba: I pray our relationship with the Igbo race will not get to that level. Despite all our differences and bitter experiences, we still have many ties that bind us together than what separates us.There is no permanent friend in ethno-cultural relationship but permanent interest. The Igbo and Hausa-Fulanis were best of friends in the 1st and 2nd Republic and the Yorubas, were labeled by the Igbos, as tribalist. Who knows, the Yorubas and the Igbos might come together as political partners in the nearest future. 2 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by ceejay4real(m): 4:18am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Eledan:Why does his tribe matter to you? Useless bigot! |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by bigsmoke2(m): 4:28am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Whether the ibo like it or not their for fathers started this mess, why was ironsi spared, why was the ibo senate president spared. namdi azikiwe traveled just before the coup. These are all too much of a coincidence. And when ironsi took power, he refused to kill the coup plotter. It was obvious the whole thing was planned right from the beginning 2 Likes |
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