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Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by victorvezx(m): 9:01am On Jan 16, 2017 |
zendy:Nationwide? The northerners did not celebrate it, that's why they gathered in Unity to slaughter and kill the igbos everywhere they found them. As far as I know, there was no celebration in Lagos and other Yoruba states. Ask ur self why did the northerners attacked only the igbos, why did they not attack the Yoruba people? The igbos were the only ones who celebrated coup wildly as if u people just won the World Cup. U people even went to the extent of mocking and taunting the northerners with cartoons of how Nzeogwu defeated the northerners 1 Like |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by fourthworld: 9:01am On Jan 16, 2017 |
raumdeuter: So they got involved and hypocritically decided not to kill just to appear innocent? You see why we will never ever be in the same country with betrayals. I prefer fulani herdsmen, Boko haram to you people. Wicked monsters of demonic human species. No wonder Buhari is very careful with you chamelions |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by fourthworld: 9:03am On Jan 16, 2017 |
ImperialYoruba: We are not mates, look for your mates west ward, that's cotonou or Togo, there's no ethnic group in Nigeria today you are better than, you are cursed leeches contributing nothing to Nigeria except to leech, beg and betray people |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by fourthworld: 9:17am On Jan 16, 2017 |
ImperialYoruba: You are quite miserable and need to be pitied. It's so pathetic that your entire region is included in Buhari's 5000 naira poverty alleviation programme and you are here ranting and beating chest. The earlier you agree that you people are cursed and look for the root cause of your backwardness, the better for you. Region of nonproductive citizens, leeches, bedbugs, parasites and lazy asses. Hausa; The food basket of the nation, SS; the bread winner of the nation, SE; economic engine room of the nation. SW? Parasites, leeches, cursed fellows, bedbugs only good at owambe and running others down. The herdsmen are more useful to Nigeria than you waste of human intellect. At least they supply cow meat which you people love so much, but what do you contribute to Nigeria? absolute nothing |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by zendy: 9:21am On Jan 16, 2017 |
victorvezx: That why I told you to go and do your reserch well. Immidiately after the coup, there was wild jubilation nationwide even in Kaduna. Nzeogwu became a national hero at first. Everbody from North to West to East celebrated the coup. It was only months later that some people started reading ethnic meaning into the coup. Everybody celebtated the coup at first including Igbos. |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by logica(m): 9:29am On Jan 16, 2017 |
onedayatime:I spoke of Sergeant Adegoke, he mentioned Major Adegoke. Obviously 2 different people. |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by Nobody: 9:38am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Fedayeen02: You never know Yoruba ppl..... yet whit the twist of history IBOS still fare better than them in this country they have had a major Share 1 Like |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by Nobody: 9:39am On Jan 16, 2017 |
malton: MUMU, I can also tell you Nzogwu was IGBO by name...... Fulani by heart, ewu |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by APCmyheart(m): 9:48am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Qelvin: Shut up and accept blames for once, They are junior officers to those igbos then and take order from them. They take order from the then GOC Aguiyi Ironsi and according to military rule, Obey the last order which they did but never even pull one single trigger.. 1 Like |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by APCmyheart(m): 9:51am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Qelvin: hahahahha Joke of the century, No wonder you can't stay in your region, You lots troop into the region you claim you trumps on daily basis looking for greener pasture. |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by Nobody: 9:56am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Ironsi was slated to be killed by the plotters. He only managed to escape with his life. This story wasn't without bias. |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by APCmyheart(m): 10:06am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Qelvin: Hmmmm well i owe no explanation, How funny could you be, You claim your flat head has taken you to so many countries and given you good life but when i mention my ow you called it lies hahahaha.. Now i see reason why people from your region have been killed like a chicken. |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by Yoshy: 10:35am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Kenzico:you guys are at it again, deliberatly turning history, you will sure get what you are looking for and it won't go well.. |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by harmonyglobal: 10:44am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Qelvin: |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by laudate: 10:52am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Qelvin: I have given you an excerpt from a book on the civil war titled Quick Kill in Slow Motion, written by an American, containing input from those on ground during the war, that confirms there was a decisive battle at Ore, in which the Biafran soldiers were routed. You chose to ignore it. I have also made reference to the book 'Tragedy of Victory' published by Godwin Alabi-Isama who was an eyewitness on the battlefield at Ore, but you have chosen to turn a blind eye to it. Other sources are freely available in public domain, which you can cross-check to get factual accounts about the Ore battle, but you are too lazy to carry out the research. Instead you choose to believe the propaganda in Madiebo's book, that there was no battle at Ore. Ok, if such false stories make you feel better, who am I to stop you from believing them?? The burden of proof is on you, to provide facts to bolster the tales that you believe, isn't it? He who asserts must prove. So feel free to hold on to your shallow assertions that do not hold water. Afterall, the propaganda machine manned by Okokon Ndem on behalf of Biafra is still at work in your soul, and in many of your compatriots till today. 5 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by laudate: 10:55am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Qelvin: No, you are the slow one who keeps making twisted assertions without provide proof to back them up. And on this thread, everyone can see that you are the one spreading lies. Google is your friend. Even if I paste a whole excerpt on the battle at Garkem here for you to read, you would still disprove them & ignore them like you did with the one on Ore. So why should I stop you from believing your twisted tales by moonlight?? 6 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by laudate: 10:59am On Jan 16, 2017 |
eaglechild: The person was in the house with his family, but the soldiers who executed Pam (and were later arrested) were present at the point where the conversation continued, and were witnesses to the subsequent events that led to his death. Don't you think the person telling the story got access to their statements, later? When soldiers are arrested or court-martialled, they give statements that are documented. 4 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by harmonyglobal: 11:01am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Qelvin:hey u biafran u created d problems of Nigeria now u should understand u are a parasite sucking this country of it needs, guess u inherited d hatred from ur so called failures that orchestrated d 1966 coup. |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by laudate: 11:14am On Jan 16, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Haba!! You want to make some people cry. They will soon come out & try to discredit the account of Dr. Nowa Omoigui, Max Siollun, Fola Oyewole, Michael R. Stafford etc., and other authors on the civil war in a bid to claim that such folks didn't know what was going on or that their perspectives were biased. Just wait and watch. 4 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by malton: 11:24am On Jan 16, 2017 |
GreatSE: Typical IPOBian; no sense nor manners. Just bitter and silly. Get your frustrated life out of my sight! 3 Likes |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by victorvezx(m): 11:45am On Jan 16, 2017 |
zendy:U have no evidence to prove that everybody celebrated the coup, the igbos where the only ones who celebrated it. It is only a person that is not reasonable that will support a coup carried out by the military. Before the coup, Nigeria was at least democratic and practiced real federalism, so no sane mind would support a coup that curtail my freedom in the name of revolution against corruption. The igbos supported it because if the coup had succeeded, the igbos would have hijacked the leadership of Nigeria in every way. Back then the igbos led every institution available. They were some of the most educated back then, and where top in the military. It was greed and overzealous behavior that made ur kinsmen orchestrate the coup. That feeling that u are better than the northerners. U people still have that behavior till today. |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by laudate: 11:56am On Jan 16, 2017 |
Sincere4u: After Pam had warned him on the telephone. |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by femarse: 12:06pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
Qelvin: Lagos is owned by all Nigeria if I hear well the same way ABia Kano and Abuja is own by all Nigeria ?? abi I understand you I thought they said igbo is Eastern Nigeria how did Lagos become the center of Nigeria ?? |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by Nobody: 12:20pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
seunmsg: Ibo coup, like seriously? |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by Nobody: 12:32pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
laudate:Yes, you could be right and that is to say it was the first time he heard about it but the author, who isn't omnipresent, wrote in a manner that suggests Ironsi was aware of the coup and even probably an accomplice. This is exactly how i would've felt if i wasn't aware Ironsi was also marked for death. |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by zendy: 12:42pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
victorvezx: Why are you comnenting out of ignorance? Are you this daft? Go and read Madiebos book, 'The Nigerian Revolution and and the Biafran war' Madiebo was with Nzeogwu in the situation room in Kaduna, read the book and find out the mood in Kaduna. Go and read Philip Effiongs "Biafra:My story". Philip Effiong was in Lagos along Victor Banjo. Read Hillary Njokus 'Tragedy without heroes' Njoku was with Aguiyi Ironsi and Gowon when the coup was unfolding. Go and read what people who were on the ground at the time said then come back and comment instead of commenting out of ignorance like most of your Yoruba brothers. By 1964 and 1965, the situation in Nigeria was very bad. There was serious violence in the west, Awolowo was in jail, corruption was very high. Young officers led by Nzeogwu who were disgusted with what they saw then struck on 15th January 1966. It is very important to note that Nzeogwu and co had no intention of holding power for themselves. Infact, we now know that what they wanted was to release Awolowo and make him Nigerian leader. When Nigeria heeard about the coup, there was national jubilation and Nzeogwu became a national hero. Ironsi however foiled the coup in Lagos which ultimately caused the coup to fail nationally. |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by onedayatime(m): 1:13pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
zendy:nibo niyen tiyen ti wa ye? Certainly not the majority of people celebrate it. So stop feeding your sheep lies. 1 Like |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by onedayatime(m): 1:23pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
zendy:All those books you talked about were written by igbos. Why no mentioned the ones written by the opposition? What mood was in lagos then? tell me. What mood was in Lagos when Ironsi was killed? Apparently, na the mood wey dem dey dem dey. No jubilation, no nothing. the only time there was wide jubilation in west because of government was when Abacha died and the only time sadness covered the face of westerners was when Muritala Mohammmed was assassinated. So what are you saying? |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by onedayatime(m): 1:31pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
zendy:how are we sure what Ifeajuna said was true? How are sure Awo was in there plan? We can not fully believe there stories. Ok. Everybody tries to play the saint |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by onedayatime(m): 1:36pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
victorvezx:please, do your research very well and don't come here and talk rubbish |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by T8ksy(m): 2:08pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
onedayatime: Obviously, Awo too must be in on the coup else how sure are the coupists that he will agree to be made PM under such an atrocious condition . 1 Like |
Re: January 15,1966 Coup: Conversation Between Lt. Col Pam And His Murderers by Qelvin(m): 2:36pm On Jan 16, 2017 |
laudate:I have a far better knowledge of the Nigerian civil war that you do, all you did was post a except( could be just some article for academic research and discourse of someone who never witnessed the actual war, but culled his/her version from what was presented as fact by a pro Nigerian standpoint) I have your time today, please debunk my so called lies with actual accounts of both Nigerian and Biafran officers and men who saw action and wrote their own versions of the war. |
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