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Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by Nobody: 11:26pm On Jan 19, 2017 |
adegeye38: See, this is why this thread was necessary. PONZI SCHEMES ARE NEVER SUSTAINABLE. Greed or no greed! 1 Like |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by Nobody: 11:30pm On Jan 19, 2017 |
itasakpa: So who pays the old members after they pay the new members? The new members? The old members? They pay themselves? Please explain how this recycling money back and forth will cause it to magically grow and pay everyone interest, while keeping up with the debts of the new entrants. 1 Like |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by itasakpa: 11:36pm On Jan 19, 2017 |
old members pay new members and newmembers pay old members. nothing last forever but ponzi will stay for some time. do you think it was everyone who did mmm that lost money? life is like an exam, some win and some loose. at least ponzi scheme has a life cycle and there are always indicators. if u guys like preach from today till tomorrow, new millionairs emerge each passing month in nigeria from ponzi and it will remain like that for some time |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by deleo16(m): 11:49pm On Jan 19, 2017 |
Too much MMM story the truth is those that will listen would listen don't that won't will not listen can we please have a moment of silence all this preach against ponzi is just a waste of time whether pro or anti MMM typical example are LBGT upon all castigation does that stop from some people involving themselves in such act both home and abroad view your opinion and let whoever wants to continue scheme do ,and whoever wants to stop, stop not repeating same thing all over |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by simiolu1(m): 11:49pm On Jan 19, 2017 |
kalindaminda: You can verify yourself. Oh; that's a wrong link... Just wanted to give the guy some hypertension. This is the real one.
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Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by akigbemaru: 11:53pm On Jan 19, 2017 |
MMM |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by Nobody: 12:06am On Jan 20, 2017 |
Spare money remember? You can't hold them liable |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by Horlufemi(m): 12:21am On Jan 20, 2017 |
sunnyboi: In the Bahamas sipping coconut juice with curvaceous babe at his beck and call. 1 Like |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by Nobody: 12:26am On Jan 20, 2017 |
simiolu1: Mehn... na to hack the site be that lol I thought it was WordPress 1 Like |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by Herrmes: 12:51am On Jan 20, 2017 |
easternguy1:Anyone who has courage to do this stuff is a coward really. |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by MrCEO69(m): 1:33am On Jan 20, 2017 |
easternguy1:Chai! Here we go again. Being broke doesn't mean u should steal! Or kill some1 to tk there possession. If it were football betting it would be much better na u and dem, but this mmm of a thing can't be sustained. Guy i know u are courageous, pls go and PH now. I wish u were one of those who put their life saving. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by xest(m): 1:49am On Jan 20, 2017 |
Even with your explanation I stand with mmm. Now let me ask you, what has the government done for the ordinary people in the society? Has anyone come out and told you he/she lost there money? Are they using your money to invest in the scheme? Finally, how do banks get the money they pay to customers who wants to withdraw there money? If everyone goes to the bank to withdraw there money do u think the bank can pay everyone? If u call mmm a scam, then the banks are the biggest scam. If Mr A makes a deposit of 100k, and Mr B came to borrow 80k,how much have the money generated? 180k,the physical cash is how much 100k. Now 20kis remaining in the vault, Wat do u think will happen if Mr A comes to cash all his money? Now who is cheating who? MMM or the Banks? If u don't knw the ideology of mmm why can't u mind your business. Haters, u guys just want to hear that it has crashed in other to celebrate. Leave mmm alone. Long live mmm together we are changing the world 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by xest(m): 1:51am On Jan 20, 2017 |
MrCEO69:Wat ever, MMM pays. Is none of u guys business. The govt and media that are shouting who dem epp? 1 Like |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by MrCEO69(m): 2:03am On Jan 20, 2017 |
xest:Oh i forgot ur Zombiems isnt of politic but of money! What the f*ck are u calling the govt and media now? |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by Nobody: 2:24am On Jan 20, 2017 |
xest:Yes they can. That money belongs to the account owners, not the bank. Even if it takes time, everyone must get their money. It's not a "donation". If Mr A makes a deposit of 100k, and Mr B came to borrow 80k,how much have the money generated?I doubt if you even own a bank account with this kind of question. Banks charge interest on loans. That's how the money generates. If you borrow money from a bank, you must repay it plus interest. That's how bank loans work. Wat do u think will happen if Mr A comes to cash all his money?Then the bank will pay him his money, even if they need to borrow or request government intervention, Mr A must get his money. I feel sorry for you. That you can even compare a Ponzi scam to secured, audited, government regulated institutions like banks... I doubt if you received an adequate education. So I don't even blame you, I just feel sad 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by Nobody: 5:06am On Jan 20, 2017 |
Back in school, i am not good in Mathematics but with my common sense, i know this calculation and always tell my friend that it is mathematically incorrect for MMM to last and once they fold, nothing will bring them back, because the mathematics behind has error in front |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by muyiwaojo1(m): 5:51am On Jan 20, 2017 |
Popoola Consultant hello good morning 9:59 Please wait. Now all the operators are busy, but soomeone will be free soon and he will reply you! hi, welcome to MMM Nigeria, am Olufemi how can i help you 10:29 good morning please can you explain to me sir what is really going on about MMM Nigeria. hello 10:30 there is an upgrade going on soon there will be information on PO 10:36 but please, like how long is it going to take because we cant just understand what is going on since resumption, and there is a lot of panic. 10:38 don t panic in few days everything will be normal 10:40 okay, because we are thinking that GH is more than PH and that is the reason why people GHED and not matched 10:43 no, there are enough PH to pay for the Gh if u notice there are so many ppl that there PH have nt being match is cos of the upgrade going on Thank you for visiting MMM! Is there anything I can do to help you? 10:45 i think there should be up to date news on our as regards of what is going on presently so as to avoid this panic all over the country 10:51 they want to finish everything be4 the updates 10:54 thanks 10:55 |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by adegeye38(m): 6:04am On Jan 20, 2017 |
kalindaminda:Ibunderstand, it will always crash as lng as people stop joining |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by paddypower(m): 6:21am On Jan 20, 2017 |
babseg:sorry eeeeeeeehhhhh but ur cash dey my houz come collect |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by rhektor(m): 6:45am On Jan 20, 2017 |
BiafranBushBoy: A mavrodian maga spotted |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by okeyley: 7:12am On Jan 20, 2017 |
Olasco93: SURE TRUE WORD |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by Doyin2(m): 8:44am On Jan 20, 2017 |
easternguy1: Exactly! Just like Kidnapping is also an easy way of making money. But what we are telling idiots like you is that there is always a victim of such criminal activities. So because some people make money via criminal and illegal acts like embezzling public funds,yahoo yahoo,robbing, stealing, (ultimately the originator of the ponzi scheme is going to steal/siphon some contributors monies)or kidnapping,should we then encourage people to engage in such acts?? Have you pondered to ask where and how does the MMM scheme get funds to pay commission to guiders? A scheme that has no established investment portfolio!!!!! 1 Like |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by donkuso(f): 9:33am On Jan 20, 2017 |
Gone through the article. I notice some snags: 1) The analysis is based on one time payment ie. the participant invest only once and recieve return of investment and would not invest again. 2) New participants joining only to invest once. But the scheme is that most of the participants both old and new keeps on investing, some increase their investment and some reduce their own. I think what happened to them is inadequate planning during the festive period. It could have been managed better than blocking (pausing)the business.If the consideration of the media and psychological impart on people were considered this would have been avoided. They should have continued with constant and continuous investors and later bring in off and on investors, with that way they would have managed the impact on doubters and media. |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by dmcdad: 9:52am On Jan 20, 2017 |
True. But then for some, you need to go as far as this for them to be able to grasp. AntiWailer: 1 Like |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by dmcdad: 9:54am On Jan 20, 2017 |
Doyin2: 1 Like
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Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by AntiWailer: 9:57am On Jan 20, 2017 |
dmcdad: I agree. |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by steve6: 11:07am On Jan 20, 2017 |
Hmmm.... |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by Nobody: 11:47am On Jan 20, 2017 |
donkuso: The OP even stressed that it was a "very simplistic example" The main point is that whether new or old, every new investment increases the amount of debt in the system. Why is that so difficult for you people to understand? WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM? You think you can pass money back and forth infinitely and it will just magically double Or there's an unlimited source of mugus to come and take your debt for you Meanwhile the benevolent mastermind won't touch any of the money, he'll just sit there and look I just tire for una They say a fool and his money are soon parted. Those who have ears have heard |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by simiolu1(m): 4:35pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
kalindaminda: Actually, there are two websites for MMM Nigeria. One is fake and one is original. One is [url]mmm-nigeria.net[/url] (the original) and the other is [url][/url] (fake) |
Re: Why Ponzi Schemes Always Fail (Graphic And Mathematical Proof) by Mstcambridge: 9:23am On Mar 12, 2017 |
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