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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:20am On Jan 20, 2017 |
sod09:You go get okpolo eye o... ![]() Check this, if Mustafi had joined City, would he be that good? Remember that Otamendi, Mangala, and Stones were top defenders before they arrived City. Three of them worth over £130m. You can't have that quality and still complain. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by purplekayc(m): 9:28am On Jan 20, 2017 |
When is he coming back?
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 9:55am On Jan 20, 2017 |
Spy360:wats ur point.... money wise or quality wise whos better mustafi v stones cos pogba worth 100m doesnt mean he's better dan modric always stand by ur words... arsenal squad is better dan man city, but u afraid to admit becos city might finish ahead of us. u just like our gaffer he is afraid of dat tag(specialist in failure) |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 10:11am On Jan 20, 2017 |
I think performance and stats of the Arsenal boys are making it seem they are soo good now...Don't forget how we only rate 5players in the squad, rivals rated only 2. Nobody gave the spurs&Liverpool lads respect nor rating in preseason, but their performance now,will change pundits perspective about them. The big boys at city&utd were intimidating everyone, we all tipped them but now we want to excuse they are old,overated settling etc... I think under prev coaches mancity had better defence than Arsenal, but pep is too attacking minded, yes, he improved them all on how to keep possession,attack and all but their defence got weak like he did at barca & Bayern He admitted he doesn't train tacklers...He made the defence including bravo all ball playing. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 11:41am On Jan 20, 2017 |
Fkhalifa:yes u are on point.... spurs nd lfc are dominating base on performance |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 1:41pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Unbelieveable... The same players you said have 'losing mentality' are now better than Man City players ![]() Oshay!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 1:45pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
raumdeuter: You even have EIGHT arsenal players in your combined ELEVEN... ![]() This is wonderful... 2 Likes |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 1:45pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
Fkhalifa: You realize that in the last 2 seasons City conceded more goals in the league than Arsenal |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 1:46pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
iPopAlomo: Can you post your combined first 11 for Arsenal-City and lets see |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 1:47pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
iPopAlomo: That shows how bad City players are. For Arsenal with a loser mentality to be better, Walcott as bad as he is, He is still better than Sterling, Sane, and Navas |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 1:48pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
raumdeuter: I'm an Arsenal fan... what do you expect...?!!! |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 2:02pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
iPopAlomo: That doesnt stop you from being objective does it? I wont post a Bayern + Barca combined team and drop Messi Suarez Neymar for Roben Lewandoski and Muller 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by diggz: 2:19pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Gibbs chopping bench for monreal a 30+ player yet,he is better than kolarov and Clichy. Carzola a 30+ player who is yet to kick a ball this season makes your list automatically. Hmmmmm.......! Why didn't you drop Kols for otamendi or stones since,kols is 30+ and must be poor according to you. Walcott is better than sterling,navas and sane.... ![]() ![]() 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Eruditor: 3:07pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
Spy360: Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Everton beat city 4-0 they didn't trash City. They literally had 4 shots on target and 4 goals which were results of individual mistakes from City players. They didn't dominate the game, have more shots etc etc. This is important and I'd say why. When Barca beat AFC 3-1 in 2011 that was a trashing even though the scoreline doesn't reflect it. Also when Bayern beat AFC 5-1 that was another trashing. Rewatch those games to understand why. ![]() Now concerning Pellegrini, he inherited a City team that had won the league in 11/12. The core of that team is still very much around today only older. Whether you accept it or not, that's the fact. Pellegrini won a title in 13/14 and since then CFC (14/15) and LFC (15/16) have been champs. After 13/14, I doubt Pellegrini had beaten Wenger again. But Pep took that older team and not only beat Wenger but he outplayed AFC abysmally. AFC couldn't put 3 passes together in the 2nd half. They couldn't even cross their half. That game was reminiscent of Pep's time in Barca and Bayern- and he did it without...Messi or Robben! Not taking anything from Pellegrini either. His team were on their last legs. What we are seeing this season is a replica of last season. City started well and tailed off because an aged core will do exactly that. Do you remember how Arteta was his penultimate and final seasons with AFC? That city squad was aged. Pep is here to not only switch their style, win titles (the whole shebang). He is here to reduce the age of the squad and he has to do it piecemeal. That's why he recruited fledgling talents like Sane and Gabriel Jesus. He is making the team his. He is a great tactician. Even with less quality his teams are dominating games and creating chances. There have been mistakes along with it but everyone makes mistakes. Go and look at his losses this season (all 5 of them). They have not been forlorn losses. They dominated CFC, Everton, LFC and even Tottenham and missed chances early on that may have changed the games. The only game they looked really flat was against Liverpool and even that game was a borefest. United keep mouthing off about how their draws would have been wins and would have seen them higher on the log but City can make the same argument. They had no business drawing with Southampton, Boro or Everton (Jeez, they fluffed 2 penalties in this game and Stekelenburg had the game of his career pulling saves Neuer might envy). Even when things started well Pep told y'all to calm down as they were still a work in progress. I am a big Pep fan but I wasn't on Nairaland boasting because I was one of those reminding those CFC haters last year that the previous city team finished 4th (and as such could not be termed the best team by any stretch). We have seen moments that give us hope that City could become what Pep desires. The Barca game had to be a crowning glory. Remember they had lost 4-0 first leg only to outplay Barca like no one has ever done recently. Not even Bayern of Jupp's day can make the same claim. That's why I laugh when people think Tottenham's form should be the reason City should be overlooked. Sterling buries an early chance and Tottenham open up, it could turn to a drubbing. We all give Conte credit because his style just looks like champ-stuff. CFC look extra difficult to score against but when they played City it didn't look that way. That's why Pep gets offended when people ask him to change. His method is not fool-proof, but it has been working for years. Take note too that Conte is inheriting a team that won a title 14/15. Similar to Pellegrini of 13/14 (because there is just a one year gap between that title-winning season and this one). Should we expect the same dominance from CFC in 18/19 without a serious overhaul in what will be an aged team? If that's not the case then why attack Pep? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 3:20pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
diggz: Selecting between Gibs and Monreal is a matter of preference both are similar and both better than Clichy and Kolarov Cazorla competitition for that role will be a older and slower Yaya or a Gundigan who has spent the better part of the last 3yrs in hospital Walcott is definitely more useful at the moment that Sterling Navas and Sane, they all have pace but Walcott is even more clinical than all of them |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 3:28pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
Eruditor:wait so 4-0 is beating not trashing... who cares if d 4 were own goal sef we like taking things too far, because everton is smaller dan man city day cant trash dem but barca nd Bayern can trash afc dats irrational thinking bro 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by diggz: 3:51pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Gibbs, Monreal are better than kolarov and Clichy....oh really? Lol......only in your world dayo. ![]() How can Cazorla be competing from a sick bed for gods sake dayo!? When do you even know he will be coming back? Please, you can redo the list of your first 11 so make we know. Thank you. Didn't you claim sterling was much improved under Pep earlier in the season or Na who talk that one again? Let Pep do his job by turning sterling and sane into monsters shebi they are under 22years of age. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 4:04pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
diggz: Before season started I told many people that City tem is weak old and spent. Didnt I? BTW Did you read this? raumdeuter: |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Eruditor: 4:08pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
sod09: 2 of those goals were cosmetic. Everton left 2 men infront and kicked the ball long all game to Lukaku. In every other dept they had less stats. Less shots..less attempts..less corners..less distance covered...way fewer passes...way less possession. I am not taking anything away from Everton, they were brilliant and efficient. In the games I referred to in question especially against Barca, AFC had 19% possession and 1 shot on target (which was a sergio busquets own goal from a corner kick). AFC had very very very few passes in that game. UEFA called it the most 1 sided 3-1 in history. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by diggz: 4:08pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
raumdeuter: And, I clearly objected to you condemning them due to age. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 4:18pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
diggz: And it looks like I was right again, Check the discussion on your thread and see the number of people in there alluding to the ages of all these City players. 4 full backs all over 30. In a position that probably does the most running in a team |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by diggz: 4:32pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
raumdeuter: How are you right exactly? So the failure of Pep to get results is as a result of his fullbacks being above 30? Lol.....,! You are a smart, intelligent man dayo, I am confident you can look for a better excuse. ![]() |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 4:34pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
diggz: Hos team is filled with old players The ones he bought are mainly crocks like Sane, Gundogan Nolito while Jesus is not available |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by diggz: 4:46pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
raumdeuter: His team is filled with old players you say yet, 11 players are required to start a match while 3 come on as substitutes if need be. Bravo Sagna or zabaleta Otamendi Stones Kolarov/Clichy Fernando or fernandinho Yaya or gundogan(according to you) Kdb Silva Sterling or sane or navas Iheanacho or aguero So if or when you choose to start any of this combined 11, how are they entirely old dayo? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 5:08pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
diggz: Check his starting 11 last game and see how many of them are over 30 Bravo, Sagna Kolarov, Zabaleta Yaya Silva. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by diggz: 5:23pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Oh please.....just stop already Bros. It is no longer fullbacks but keepers now abi!? Cech must be useless because he his over 30. Thank you. Dayo are you actually claiming once a team features at least five 30 years old players(keeper inclusive) they will automatically not win the game? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by raumdeuter: 5:35pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
diggz: WHat I am claiming is that when majority of your starting 11 are over 30 you cant get optimum performance every game. Surely there will be games he will win with those geriatrics but they cant sustain it for long. there is a reason the price of a player over 30 drops and some clubs have a policy of giving them just a yr contract look at your Chelsea starting 11 tell me the number of players above 30 infact look at the top 6 teams that started last weekend and lets know the number of 30yrs plus in each team |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Kagawa10: 6:21pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
Spy360: Top defenders? Chai! Even Mustafi hasn't been that good! He's just lucky to have a good partner in Koscielny. He's still better than Stones and Mangala (penalty magnet) though. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Kagawa10: 6:25pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
sod09: Stones, Mangala, Otanmendi and the ageing likes of Zabaleta, Kolarov, Clichy etc are better than Bellerin, Monreal, Koscielny ? Clap for yourself! |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by chrisley024(m): 6:31pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
Arsenal has a better defence while City has a better attack |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by diggz: 6:38pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
raumdeuter: So in your words what is the highest number of players one can have above 30 at a time? And pls dont insult me with last weekends stat because, it is a bullshyytee way to take a sample ratio. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by sod09(m): 7:17pm On Jan 20, 2017 |
Kagawa10:did u read my comment at all Clap for ur self |
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