joyContraMundum:


Accepted that the Abrahamists are cretinous and contemptible for holding such toxic, stagnating, pernicious......... , and agreed that many of us want society rid of these beliefs,.

joyContraMundum:

what do you plan to offer as replacement? .

joyContraMundum:

The sterile vacuum of materialist atheism?.

joyContraMundum:

You see, Scientific Materialism is absolutely false and every bit as ridiculous. .

orisa37:
Atheists are just Casualties, Weak and Can't Survive without help. God makes them too cos God is in charge of Successes and Failures. God is Everywhere and Nowhere.

orisa37:
Atheists are just Casualties, Weak and Can't Survive without help. God makes them too cos God is in charge of Successes and Failures. God is Everywhere and Nowhere.

orisa37:
Atheists are just Casualties, Weak and Can't Survive without help. God makes them too cos God is in charge of Successes and Failures. God is Everywhere and Nowhere.

joyContraMundum:
Accepted that the Abrahamists are cretinous and contemptible for holding such toxic, stagnating, pernicious, and extremely ridiculous beliefs, even going as far as institutionalizing them, and agreed that many of us want society rid of these beliefs, what do you plan to offer as replacement? The sterile vacuum of materialist atheism? Do you think that will inspire anyone? Stimulate anyone? Just look at Richard Dawkins. That man has the Charisma of a stone.

You see, Scientific Materialism is absolutely false and every bit as ridiculous. It will change nothing. You get rid of Abrahamism and give society something better, not materialist atheism. It CANNEVER succeed.

iceberylin:
It's wise, dosent lie, deserves to be obeyed, its God, its deep inside but you still hear it speak. Saying the truth, leading your life straight but some knowledge,hypocrisy,slavery has swayed you now you tame it and look up to men for a new direction, you lost ya companion cause you refuse to think for yAself, waiting for self proclaimed Prophets to lead. so scared to question its originality because of threats or promises that got fulfilled only in ya Myopic mind. You dont walk in Chains and think you is free? i see a slave who done forgotten his history, distracted since you came here, sorry no one told you about your Ancestors and original belief, its cause they were enslaved too. Now you praise your enemy, his picture translates God to the lost, you dont see yourselves praising your demeanment. Dont call Black white over faith, Faith is true and Proven. Yes its in the mind.. Be fREE.. FREE ya Animal Instincts, know your God. Lets destroy Slavery.. BE REAl, REal is God....

iceberylin:
You turn blind to the division it's brought on the Black man. Lets key Nigeria, Housing Islam and Christianity kept us divided from the people to the politicians so obvious you dont need to be explained.. Religion has better side not for the Black man. Doctrines of religion fulfilled its purpose on where its intentions were based here its all Slavery..

joyContraMundum:

How many people do you think are capable of maintaining......... a materialistic, nihilistic atheistic mindset?.

akintom:


The construct of the mindset that transcends irrational fears, is not common. The reason therefore, for these few minds, to rise to the help of the victims.

joyContraMundum:
No, you missed the point. I'm saying Abrahamism should be replaced not by something MARGINALLY better, but by an ideology INFINITELY better and healthier than it. How many people do you think are capable of maintaining a materialistic, nihilistic atheistic mindset? A very tiny number. Very tiny. You don't in the name of liberating people from mental, and hence, cultural slavery, affect their psychological health. You have to cater for both.

An humanity without a good spiritual health will go extinct.

akintom:


I will appreciate if you can desist from giving a definition of atheism, that is alien to my usage in the thread.

What you are referring to here is "scientology", i certainly don't subscribe to such philosophy.

Thanks.

iceberylin:


Take their fear away and they will witness freedom.

when a Man realizes he's the God that forgot ohhh wait you think religion has kept us pure? Look into the Black mans history you see Peace, civilization, GOd, Gold and the pale folks wanted your History so bad they replaced it hence thief's in churches, babies get institutionalized without prove (need to see how stupid elders looked while they taught me from a Book, i needed magic, real proof) i wanted to be free bro, i needed to act on my thoughts. Dont replace a lie with another. Extinction dont roll with Spirituality..

joyContraMundum:
Don't be myopic. You can't tell me the mainstream religions are the last word on religion. And you're still defining spirituality in relation with all the Abrahamic stupidity that we've seen down the ages, being peddled as "spirituality".

Lemme ask you, what RATIONAL support is there for the notion that only the physical/material exists? It's laughably irrational and freaking stupid.

iceberylin:


are you asking me to prove an illusion? You typing on the Physical. Go ahead, show me your God...


Feel free to stop abusive words or i'll turn to a kid too...

What nonsense is this? Do you format your brain after reading each post? When did I ever claim to be a theist

joyContraMundum:
What nonsense is this? Do you format your brain after reading each post? When did I ever claim to be a theist

iceberylin:


Spirituality is trees?

joyContraMundum:
Don't be myopic. You can't tell me the mainstream religions are the last word on religion. And you're still defining spirituality in relation with all the Abrahamic stupidity that we've seen down the ages, being peddled as "spirituality".

Lemme ask you, what RATIONAL support is there for the notion that only the physical/material exists? It's laughably irrational and freaking stupid.

joyContraMundum:
Swerve, please. You're boring.

And it's atheists like you that go about yapping on and on over how you're smarter than theists.Ask him why he doesn't believe in God, now, and he'll start blabbering. Your comprehension skills is terrible, and I'm not ready to sink to your level of primordial slime.

iceberylin:


Lemme ask you, what RATIONAL support is there for the notion that not only the physical/material exists? It's laughably irrational and freaking stupid.

joyContraMundum:


Scientology keh? No, I don't think you know what that means:

Sci·en·tol·o·gy - /ˌsīənˈtäləjē/
noun
1. a religious system based on the seeking of self-knowledge and spiritual fulfillment through graded courses of study and training. It was founded by American science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard (1911–86) in 1955.

And the moniker, Oaroloye is a Scientologist, I think. Yet, he's not an atheist.
.

joyContraMundum:

Atheism on the other hand is often of the materialist ideology - there's no soul, no God, no afterlife, life is meaningless and has no purpose since it was an accident, so it's up to you to give your own meaning to it. If this isn't sheer nihilism, what is? And you wanna inspire many people with THIS? Are you joking? You won't be getting far with this. NEVER. .

joyContraMundum:

Only a very tiny number of people can accept such grim view of existence.
.

joyContraMundum:

I think the ONLY thing I share with atheists is that I do not believe in a Creator God.

akintom:

Sorry for the mixed up. I used the word "scientology", to mean an attempt to organize scientific materialism into a body philosophy, deserving a religious relationship.





You obviously don't understand the whole concept of atheism as it stands today.

Atheism is simply a concept that lacks believe in the existence of god.

Whatever claims or meaning about the universe, that have their origin in god idea, also suffers the same fate, as the very god idea. As far as the concept of atheism is concerned.

Atheism says that, man defines and gives meaning to everything.

Nihilism is a wrongful and malicious naming, by Christian apologists, who have difficulties in understanding what atheism is.





I said this earlier that, i certainly don't delude myself, by subscribing to the notion that there will come such a time, that society will be rid (in case completely) of religious nonsense.

I align with the effort directed at emboldening folks, to see religion for what it really is - myths.

And equally enflame the sensitization, on the quest for dominant secularity of the state.




The reason i said earlier that atheism only free up folks from religious illusions and delusions, whatever such folks do with that realization, is completely their responsibility.

joyContraMundum:
Well, if what you're saying is that you just want to free folks from Abrahamism, and that's all about it, then my case against you is void. Finito.

onetrack:


I am doing very well without any god thank you.

akintom:


These claims of yours, are outrageously vague. Can you precisely elucidate on these claims?

orisa37:

God is UNDERSTANDING.Believe That.

akintom:

Hmmmm..... Case closed on this.

akintom:

Sorry for the mixed up. I used the word "scientology", to mean an attempt to organize scientific materialism into a body philosophy, deserving a religious relationship.

You obviously don't understand the whole concept of atheism as it stands today.

Atheism is simply a concept that lacks believe in the existence of god.

Whatever claims or meaning about the universe, that have their origin in god idea, also suffers the same fate, as the very god idea. As far as the concept of atheism is concerned.

Atheism says that, man defines and gives meaning to everything.

Nihilism is a wrongful and malicious naming, by Christian apologists, who have difficulties in understanding what atheism is.

I said this earlier that, i certainly don't delude myself, by subscribing to the notion that there will come such a time, that society will be rid (in case completely) of religious nonsense.

I align with the effort directed at emboldening folks, to see religion for what it really is - myths.

And equally enflame the sensitization, on the quest for dominant secularity of the state.

The reason i said earlier that atheism only free up folks from religious illusions and delusions, whatever such folks do with that realization, is completely their responsibility.

oaroloye:


"SCIENTOLOGY" is a specific term, that is copyright property.



Wrong. This is merely what Atheists say Atheism means.

Atheism involves lying to people about God and gods- claiming to have tested properly for their existence, and had the tests fail.



I have seen this recently in the "ATHEISM VS CHRISTIANITY" Google Group.

This fellow challenged us to define what "FAITH" is- we gave the Biblical Definition- and the Atheists ignored It, and proceeded to talk about Man-made Counterfeit definitions.



NIHILISM is indeed a component of Atheism.

The most infamous recent example of that would be MITCHEL HEISMAN, the American student who wrote the aptly named "SUICIDE NOTE," in which he proceeded to reason out, in hundreds of pages, that his life was worthless, and so he shot himself.

Typical Oyinbo Joblessness.



That is because it is not "nonsense.



Several of these so-called "Myths" can be substantiated.

The basis of Authentic Religion is that God or gods give their worshippers conditions for Direct Contact- and when these conditions are fulfilled, they achieve contact.

Atheism pretends that they have examined every case of attempted contact, and found that all of them had failed.



Atheism is itself based upon illusion and delusion, arrogantly supposing all Religious persons to be mentally-incompetent and deluded without valid proof for such a supposition.