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Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by openmine(m): 12:58pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Gombs:I don't have any team member bro gombs...its a thread where everyone expresses his or her opinion....but dat sud b done with respect...must u give back an insult because sum one insulted? wat does it say about u and ur beliefs? wat will atheists say? let discus without insults.... I know dat remark wasn't intended 4 me but don't reply an insult wit an insult...it doesn't speak well of u... |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 12:59pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Junia: FIXED... yeaah, true. Jesus called it a lighter part of the law because it was contained in the law na..not created by the law Who are you to say it is not a law ?? I should ask you same? Who told you it was the law of Moses? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 1:00pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 1:01pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Gombs: He quoted a commandment from the law but this law was carried into the law of Christ. Christ also carried the law of loving into His commandment |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 1:03pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Junia: Don't you know the children of Israel was the first church? They failed ...because they couldn't obey the law and they law couldn't justify anyone. That's why Jesus had to come, and He first redeemed the old church, and established the new..forever. |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 1:05pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Gombs:Who received the laws Is it not Moses ?? Aside the law of Christ which other law is in the Bible ?? |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 1:05pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
dsaynt: So, in war times, if a nation defeats another, the slaves and properties taken aren't income to the nation who won? Should i define income for you? ![]() ![]() anyways, that's not my point..when Jacob tithed, what did he use? |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 1:06pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Gombs: Give me scriptures concerning old church. I have never heard of any old church |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 1:06pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
openmine: did you see someone call me a swindler or not? did you reprimand him? my point is, no need being hypocritical. I didn't insult you or anyone here too ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 1:08pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Junia:. why? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() i thought the law has been abolished? Paul must have been a fraud....ah! Christ also carried the law of loving into His commandment Love is God..God is love... it's been so since the foundation of the earth. Nothing was carried over here. [/quote] |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 1:11pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Junia: Are you saying Moses was the one who brought about the idea of tithing? Aside the law of Christ which other law is in the Bible ?? it's like asking "Aside the parts of Ferrari, what other parts is in the Ferrari?" ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 1:12pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Gombs: Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. The pharisees choose the lighter part of the law and ignored the weightier part of the law |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 1:14pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Gombs: It was God who gave Moses the commandment And all the commandments are known as the Mosaic law |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 1:16pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Gombs: But Christ got His commandment from the law and that is love Will you dishonour your parents if you love them |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 1:20pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Junia: Study bro.. “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 15:24). We should understand Jesus’ words here not as an outright rejection of the Gentiles—moments later, He heals the Cannanite woman's daughter (Matthew 15:28)—but as a fulfillment of prophecy, a setting of priorities, and a test of the woman’s faith. In Jeremiah 50:6, God calls Israel His people and “lost sheep.” The Messiah, spoken of throughout the Old Testament, was seen as the one who would gather these “lost sheep” (Ezekiel 34:23-24; Micah 5:4-5). When Jesus presented Himself as a shepherd to Israel, He was claiming to be the fulfillment of Messianic prophecy (Mark 6:34, 14:27; John 10:11-16) It was through the Jews that God issued His Law, preserved His Word, and sent His Son. This is why, elsewhere, Jesus tells a Samaritan that “salvation is of the Jews” (John 4:22). In Matthew 15, when the Jesus says that He was sent to “the house of Israel,” He is simply connecting His presence with God’s purpose in Old Testament history. Christ was “born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law” (Galatians 4:4-5). |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 1:22pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Junia: I talk am ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() so, Justice, mercy and faith are of the law? Why aren't they abolished as tithing (assuming tithing was of the law) |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 1:23pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Junia: so, because Moses' law made tithing compulsory..it is then proof that tithing came as a result of the law? |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 1:23pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Gombs: Did you find church in there The Church is actually used for Christians only and not isralites Why deceiving yourself ?? |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 1:26pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Junia: he didn't get it from the law, please. Will you dishonour your parents if you love them bro...Paul quoted the law severally..like petra1 said, the law is good... trying to get justification by it is wrong. Paul even said the law is holy and good. |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 1:28pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Gombs: Am i the one saying it Didnt Jesus clasify them as the weightier part of the law ![]() ![]() If you love (law of Christ) .. wont you practise them Who can say he or she loves but practise wickedness ?? |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 1:29pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Gombs: But note that he said we shouldn't walk in the law because we cant obey all the laws |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 1:31pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Gombs: It is God who made it a law .. not me So if God has made it a law Then it is actually a law |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 1:31pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Junia: lol...see line of argument abeg. the term CHURCH there ...what did you think i meant? The Church is actually used for Christians only and not isralites James was the head of the Christians in Jerusalem..they all worshiped and met a the synagogue...why not a church, since the church is actually used for Christians and not Israelite? Why did Chirstians use a synagogue made for Jewish religion? ![]() ![]() ![]() Why deceiving yourself ?? you're sorely confused... I'd leave you at this juncture. [/quote] |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Nobody: 1:34pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Gombs: The Church is the body of Christ Are the israelites the first Church (body of Christ) |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by CecyAdrian(f): 1:42pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
kolaish: You amuse me, you are doing it wrongly oga! Why can't you all read Deuteronomy 14! Even if you want to continue paying your tithe, just know that Doing it wrongly means disobeying God's directive and you know God doesn't like disobedience. If you must pay tithe, pay it the right way!! |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 1:43pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
[quote author=Junia post=53057760] Am i the one saying it So, Jesus is saying that Justice, mercy and faith are of the law...He now asked us to forget the law and yet tells us to ask and live by faith? Didnt Jesus clasify them as the weightier part of the law you are sorely confused... ![]() ![]() ![]()
so i should practice the weightier because of the law of Christ (love)...but the lighter (tithe, assuming it is of the law)i should ignore, abi? keep shooting your foot o ![]() ![]() Who can say he or she loves but practice wickedness ?? so, tithing is wickeness? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 1:44pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Junia: So, is the law totally abolished/discarded? |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by Gombs(m): 1:46pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Junia: ah.....see who i'm discussing with ooooooo ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() that's what you think i meant when you know i was talking of OT stuff? ![]() ![]() ![]() Are the israelites the first Church (body of Christ) ahhhhhhhh...i really have to let this go oooooo Acts 7:38 King James Bible This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us: |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by petra1(m): 1:54pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
Gombs: If he says they are not together . Maybe they are not together na. |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by petra1(m): 2:07pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
openmine: If you observe . The only condemnation of the law is it's inability to make a man righteous. The law is good . Because it's a document of right and wrong, you can't know what sin is without the know,edge of the law. But you don't get justified by it , that's all. The moral law is still kingdom moral principle . You don't go into immorality because you are not under the law. It's as simple as that . 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by captainrock(m): 2:13pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
What Of Church Building, renovation, maintenance, fuel for d generator, for example my church used to rent the land we use and we pay monthly before we bought the land. all dis offering we give and we still ask questions about whr it went to is nt genuine offering. u shud give from ur heart n forget about it, afterall its nt by force. tithe is ordained frm God n we ought to pay because pastors are God messengers who solicit for us sometimes and 10& to be honest is nt too much if God bless d remaining 90%. What do they do with the offerings, prophet seed, first fruit and the rest?? [/quote] 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by openmine(m): 2:45pm On Jan 23, 2017 |
petra1:1 Timothy 1:9 8 We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. 9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, if u think the law is good,why are you not obeying other laws? why are you only obeying and keeping one while u leave the rest? according to hebrews 7,the law was never good cos it made nothing perfect....it was also useless because it never showed or depicted d true picture of God our father... true d law was good but it was never meant for a believer... Ephesians 2:14 Colossians 2:6 - 23 Romans 10:4 Galatians 3:19 - 25 19 Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. 20 A mediator, however, implies more than one party; but God is one. 21 Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22 But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe. Children of God 23 Before the coming of this faith, j we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian. the law was only meant to lead us to Christ...but once we have been led to Christ,d dictates and practices of the law has no effect on us.... dere used to be a popular illustration....if u are travelling to Lagos from portharcourt.... and u needed two buses to get dere.....let's say d first bus will take you to Edo state,and u board Anoda bus to Lagos.... the bus from portharcourt to Benin has already completed its mission....now a different bus will have to take u to Lagos....d law was meant to lead us 2 Christ by showing us our sins,but wen Christ was revealed,d law no longer had an effect on us...in other words,we are no longer meant to abide by those laws any more... |
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