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Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by Nobody: 3:06pm On Jan 24, 2017
wellmax:


Power is number 1, but power is not our only problem.
No serious government will wait until power is 100% before thinking of something else. Dude please think.
Population of over 160m people and we can't generate upto 5000MW and you think it's good abi?
Work on power and everything will follow
This is 2017 bro, wake up
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by wellmax(m): 3:08pm On Jan 24, 2017
Polyphony:

Population of over 160m people and we can't generate upto 5000MW and you think it's good abi?
Work on power and everything will follow
This is 2017 bro, wake up
Maybe you misread my comment, here I have copied and pasted it again for you.
"Power is number 1 agreed, but Power is not our only problem.
No serious Government will wait until power is 100% before thinking of working on other issues.

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Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by ArcFresky(m): 3:09pm On Jan 24, 2017
NwamaziNwaAro:
shocked
You take 550million USD loan just to launch satellites

Is that Nigeria's problems

-You won't take loan to subsidize the price of foreign rice,

Clueless government.... pikin never grow teeth but e wan chop boole.

Devil punish APC and the zombies supporting this government.


Why should Nigeria subsidizes the price of foreign rice?

That is a biggee problem with right there
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by Nobody: 3:12pm On Jan 24, 2017
wellmax:
and you are yet to see a connection here with having a Satellite in orbit?

No, not at all, I don't. we've had more than two satellites previously launched right? Including the one we didn't know how it fell off, how ridiculous.
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by wellmax(m): 3:18pm On Jan 24, 2017
SnowJay92:


No, not at all, I don't. we've had more than two satellites previously launched right? Including the one we didn't know how it fell off, how ridiculous.
Its sad they lost a Satellite. Pure unprofessionalism.
But other Satellites have outlived their lifespan. Average lifespan of Satellites is 5 years. Meaning every 5 years, new Satellites have to be launched.

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Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by Nobody: 3:22pm On Jan 24, 2017
wellmax:

Its sad they lost a Satellite. Pure unprofessionalism.
But other Satellites have outlived their lifespan. Average lifespan of Satellites is 5 years. Meaning every 5 years, new Satellites have to be launched.

A sane country would skip this year, we're in a recession. You don't borrow money for such projects.
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by nairaman66(m): 3:22pm On Jan 24, 2017
wellmax:


The average life span of a LEO satellite is approximately 5 years, but the average life span for a GEO satellite is approximately 8 years.
Google is your friend.

Dude screw google! Is that the reason the satellite disappeared? For the records the satellite did not stay up to 2 years, at least you can get that fact as you are the Father of Google Inc. Besides, the government said insurance would pay for a replacement! I bet the replacement is currently on its way for many years after.

It is absolutely foolish for the government to get a loan to purchase a satellite when they are myriads of problems facing the country at this time. This move is not only directionless, but nonsensical to borrow and fund a White Elephant in space!

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Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by wellmax(m): 3:24pm On Jan 24, 2017
SnowJay92:

A sane country would skip this year, we're in a recession. You don't borrow money for such projects.

No we can't skip this year. Thank you.
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by nairaman66(m): 3:24pm On Jan 24, 2017
wellmax:

Its sad they lost a Satellite. Pure unprofessionalism.
But other Satellites have outlived their lifespan. Average lifespan of Satellites is 5 years. Meaning every 5 years, new Satellites have to be launched.

Don't mind the dude! Nigeria's satellite only stood for 18 Months! I guess 18Months=5years!!
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by Nobody: 3:31pm On Jan 24, 2017
wellmax:

Maybe you misread my comment, here I have copied and pasted it again for you.
"Power is number 1 agreed, but Power is not our only problem.
No serious Government will wait until power is 100% before thinking of working on other issues.
Na u know..
Tonight you go start gen na. That's for sure
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by wellmax(m): 3:33pm On Jan 24, 2017
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Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by wellmax(m): 3:33pm On Jan 24, 2017
nairaman66:

Dude screw google!
So we all should go with your own facts? How delusional.
nairaman66:

Is that the reason the satellite disappeared? For the records the satellite did not stay up to 2 years
No one has given usthe reason why it disaapreaed. We know Space is vast. Its Sad it happened, but during our Hero tenure, nothing was strange
nairaman66:

Besides, the government said insurance would pay for a replacement!
Show me one insurance company anywhere in the world that insures Satellites situated in orbit. Somewhere you can't go to verify or visit. No insurance company does that
nairaman66:

It is absolutely foolish for the government to get a loan to purchase a satellite when they are myriads of problems facing the country at this time. This move is not only directionless, but nonsensical to borrow and fund a White Elephant in space!
No. Its not foolish, only shallow minders see it that way. Because our Government is corrupt doesn't mean that all of us engage in one way or the other in government are corrupt. This project is laudable and very timely. Kudos to the FG and the Minister for pulling this through. But of course online rants can go on while those who understand the need go on with their work to make this country work.
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by redcliff: 3:35pm On Jan 24, 2017
NwamaziNwaAro:
shocked
You take 550million USD loan just to launch satellites

Is that Nigeria's problems

-You won't take loan to build a 2nd Niger bridge,
-You won't take loan to subsidize the price of foreign rice,
-You won't take loan to build more refineries,
-You won't take loan to build more hydro dams that will generate electricity.

Who for Nigeria that satellite epp abeg?

Clueless government.... pikin never grow teeth but e wan chop boole.

Devil punish APC and the zombies supporting this government.

You no dey even ask the right questions. The one wey them launch before where e dey?
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by Horus(m): 3:41pm On Jan 24, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4bF0wI5YQ0

NIGCOMSAT has the facilities to broadcast content across Africa- MD
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by Nobody: 3:44pm On Jan 24, 2017
Market was created in space and the first satellite was sold.
Another Satellite don show. Make I go create market for this one. undecided undecided undecided

This one na auction I go sell am grin grin grin grin
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by Nobody: 3:48pm On Jan 24, 2017
Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4bF0wI5YQ0

NIGCOMSAT has the facilities to broadcast content across Africa- MD
Which content? Your cluelessness CONCEPT.

You and Dullard of Daura undecided undecided
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by Nobody: 3:48pm On Jan 24, 2017
wellmax:


No we can't skip this year. Thank you.

Well either you're part of those that would benefit from the embezzlement, or you're still somewhere that you're protected and catered for, and as such do not know what the prevailing economic situation is doing to your fellow citizens out here. The way you insult and call people names on here shows that the later is more likely to be the case.
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by nairaman66(m): 3:49pm On Jan 24, 2017
wellmax:
So we all should go with your own facts? How delusional.
No one has given usthe reason why it disaapreaed. We know Space is vast. Its Sad it happened, but during our Hero tenure, nothing was strange
Show me one insurance company anywhere in the world that insures Satellites situated in orbit. Somewhere you can't go to verify or visit. No insurance company does that

No. Its not foolish, only shallow minders see it that way. Because our Government is corrupt doesn't mean that all of us engage in one way or the other in government are corrupt. This project is laudable and very timely. Kudos to the FG and the Minister for pulling this through. But of course online rants can go on while those who understand the need go on with their work to make this country work.



Nigeria N40bn Satellite Missing from Orbit....

The Nigerian Commun-ications Satellite (NigComSat), which was launched into orbit over 18 months ago, is said to be missing.

The Nigerian Commun-ications Satellite (NigComSat), which was launched into orbit over 18 months ago, is said to be missing.

THISDAY gathered last night that with the satellite missing from orbit, the huge amount spent by the Nigerian government, about N40 billion may have gone down the drain.

The satellite was found to have run into a technical hitch for some weeks now, according to a source, when it was discovered that it was using a technological standard that was not meant for Africa but Asia.

The materials used in the building of the satellite by the Chinese that built it were said to have also been in question.

The solar panel was said to be faulty and not working. All this was being battled with while, the Managing Director of NigComSat, Ahmed Rufai, was said to be angling for the launch of the second satellite.

The contract for the NigComSat project which was signed on December 15, 2004 in Abuja between China Great Wall Industry Corporation and the National Space Research and Development Agency was said to have cost the Federal Government over N40 billion. China was awarded the deal after it outbid 21 international.

The cost of the satellite include items such as construction, insurance, value added tax as well as the price for building one ground control station in Abuja and a backup control station in Kashi, China.

The satellite has four gateways said to be located in South Africa, China, Italy and Northern Nigeria.

The satellite, which has a lifespan of 15 years, is being monitored and tracked by a ground station built in Abuja while the Chinese firm, Great Wall Industry Corporation, has a ground station in Kashgar, in northwest China ’s Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region.

It will be recalled that NigComSat which is 100 per cent owned by the Federal Government, was recently given a 15 per cent stake from the Federal Government’s 49 per cent stake in NITEL.
Nigeria in May 2007 launched NigComSat into orbit with expectations of tremendous gains to the nation’s telecoms sector.

The NigComSat is a super hybrid geo-stationary satellite designed to operate in Africa, parts of the Middle East and southern Europe and was expected to digitalise the Nigerian economy and promote technological advancement in Nigeria and Africa.

The expectation from many quarters was that NigComSat’s carrier rocket, Long March 3-B, which blasted off from Xichang Satellite Launch Center in southwest China’s Sichuan Province and entered the orbit accurately on May 14, would set the stage for Nigeria to consolidate on its growing profile as the technological hub of Africa and an emerging player in the global terrain.

The satellite project was supposed to enable Internet access to even the remotest rural villages, a major quest of stakeholders in recent times. It was also expected to enhance government’s economic reforms, particularly in the areas of e-learning, e-commerce, tele-medicine, tele-education, and rural telephony.

The project, according to experts, was expected to help African users save more than $900 million spent for telephony trunking and data transport services, $660 million in phone call charges and broadband access which is more than $95 million spent each year, as well as create more than 150, 000 jobs for Nigerians.

Rufai had before the launch disclosed that Nigeria would earn about $1.05billion which is N128billion yearly from NigComSat. A major part of the earnings was expected to come in from the sale and leasing of transponders from NigComSat.

Rufai had stated that each transponder, forty in all will be sold for between $60-70 million. NigComSat currently has forty transponders, with 28 active and 12 inactive.

However despite the huge expectations of Nigerians, NigComSat has not performed to expectations. Rufai at a recent media interaction agreed that NigComSat had not been able to capture the market principally because of the challenges it faced from the regulatory authority.

Government sources confirmed to THISDAY the failure of the satellite in orbit. While admitting that the level the failure has gone is mindboggling, the source disclosed that the Federal Executive Council will meet today on the matter and issue a statement on how the failure will be addressed.



Please read and be guided Enjoy
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by Sall(m): 3:50pm On Jan 24, 2017
NwamaziNwaAro:
shocked
You take 550million USD loan just to launch satellites

Is that Nigeria's problems

-You won't take loan to build a 2nd Niger bridge,
-You won't take loan to subsidize the price of foreign rice,
-You won't take loan to build more refineries,
-You won't take loan to build more hydro dams that will generate electricity.

Who for Nigeria that satellite epp abeg?

Clueless government.... pikin never grow teeth but e wan chop boole.

Devil punish APC and the zombies supporting this government.
Did you said subsidized imported rice. damn, what happened to local rice .
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by wellmax(m): 3:52pm On Jan 24, 2017
nairaman66:

Please read and be guided Enjoy
What new thing is there to read. Satellite was missing. Blames were traded. How does that negate this project.
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by Nobody: 3:54pm On Jan 24, 2017
undecided what a stupid idea. Who told them that's what Nigeria needs.
undecided such a senseless waste of money

Pls fire this man
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by nairaman66(m): 4:03pm On Jan 24, 2017
wellmax:

What new thing is there to read. Satellite was missing. Blames were traded. How does that negate this project.

Goodluck trying to defend a white elephant project! Besides, your comments are not making any sense! initially you said
The average life span of a LEO satellite is approximately 5 years, but the average life span for a GEO satellite is approximately 8 years.
Google is your friend.
I told you Nigeria's satellite didn't last beyond 18 months! So far you have not cleared that argument!

Secondly, you went further
No one has given us the reason why it disaapreaed. We know Space is vast. Its Sad it happened, but during our Hero tenure, nothing was strange
This is incompetence at its peak! How could a project as important as it is just disappeared? Plus, your defense towards this project is mind boggling! How can you support such wasteful project at this trying time for Nigerians?

This project is laudable and very timely. Kudos to the FG and the Minister for pulling this through. But of course online rants can go on while those who understand the need go on with their work to make this country work

Nigeria needs improvement on power generation, not fancy projects that are draining pipes to the economy. Its really a shame that these comments are coming from you.
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by Nobody: 4:04pm On Jan 24, 2017
Sall:

Did you said subsidized imported rice. damn, what happened to local rice .

Abeg na foreign rice good pass.
Let's be true to ourselves.
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by OBAGADAFFI: 4:04pm On Jan 24, 2017
nairaman66:


Dude screw google! Is that the reason the satellite disappeared? For the records the satellite did not stay up to 2 years, at least you can get that fact as you are the Father of Google Inc. Besides, the government said insurance would pay for a replacement! I bet the replacement is currently on its way for many years after.

It is absolutely foolish for the government to get a loan to purchase a satellite when they are myriads of problems facing the country at this time. This move is not only directionless, but nonsensical to borrow and fund a White Elephant in space!


I am surprised you are replying that dude.

When companies are lunching submarine communications cable with faster Broadband, some dude is talking about Chines satellites.

The scam here is that Chines are taking back the same money they loaning US.
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by nairaman66(m): 4:11pm On Jan 24, 2017
OBAGADAFFI:


I am surprised you are replying that dude.

When companies are lunching submarine communications cable with faster Broadband, some dude is talking about Chines satellites.

The scam here is that Chines are taking back the same money they loaning US.

I had to talk to him else he will continue to evangelize his long epistles!! Nigeria is just amazing!
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by wellmax(m): 4:12pm On Jan 24, 2017
nairaman66:

Goodluck trying to defend a white elephant project! Besides, your comments are not making any sense! initially you said I told you Nigeria's satellite didn't last beyond 18 months! So far you have not cleared that argument!
Your comprehension is just so petty.
Let me make it easier, for instance, that a car is said to last 5 years is no guarantee that nothing will happen to it before 5 years.
Satellites have average life span of 5 to 8 years. Some recent manufacturers have been able to increase this lifespan to up to 20 (with corresponding increased cost).
That we lost one after just 18 months in 2014 for whatever reasons does not mean we don't have others or that we do not need to replace ageing satellites.
I think I have done enough to enlighten you on this simple fact.
This project is laudable and would be of immense benefit to Nigeria.
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by nairaman66(m): 4:14pm On Jan 24, 2017
wellmax:

Your comprehension is just so petty.
Let me make it easier, for instance, that a car is said to last 5 years is no guarantee that nothing will happen to it before 5 years.
Satellites have average life span of 5 to 8 years. Some recent manufacturers have been able to increase this lifespan to up to 20 (with corresponding increased cost).
That we lost one in 18 months for whatever reasons does not mean we don't have others or that we do not need to replace ageing satellites.
I think I have done enough to enlighten you on this simple fact.
This project is laudable and would be of immense benefit to Nigeria.

There is no point arguing with you! Goodluck with your satellite scam!
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by mmsen: 4:14pm On Jan 24, 2017
Nbote:


I can't believe anyone can actually post anything as senseless as what u both jus posted in d name of lauding d move...
Do u have to bootlick every move no matter how irrelevant, insensitive and hopeless it is? How is launching a satellite a priority in a nation suffering huge infrastructural deficit, recession and many other challenges a laudable move and even considering it's going to be done using A LOAN!! Of what use is a satellite in space when there's no steady power to use it. Of What use is a satellite in space now considering the precarious state of the nation? To d slowpoke asking if ppl can go online without satellite, did u launch anyone before to b enjoying these services now? How can some of us intentionally b stupid jus in d name of blind support? It is more and more obvious these days dat some of us are actually our own problems and not d govt.

Communications isn't a vital part of infrastructure?
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by wellmax(m): 4:17pm On Jan 24, 2017
nairaman66:

There is no point arguing with you! Goodluck with your satellite scam!
It is just a big shame that NLders won't concede to superior arguments. You lack basic understanding of facts and you would be proud to display such ignorance. But again, this is NL. Any kid can comment.
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by HonabFaj(m): 4:20pm On Jan 24, 2017
NwamaziNwaAro:
shocked
You take 550million USD loan just to launch satellites

Is that Nigeria's problems

-You won't take loan to build a 2nd Niger bridge,
-You won't take loan to subsidize the price of foreign rice,
-You won't take loan to build more refineries,
-You won't take loan to build more hydro dams that will generate electricity.

Who for Nigeria that satellite epp abeg?

Clueless government.... pikin never grow teeth but e wan chop boole.

Devil punish APC and the zombies supporting this government.

In the china loan their are provision for all the ministries, he is only talking of his own ministry as the minister of communication ,all the ministries have their own projects they want to embark on when they got the loan
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by nairaman66(m): 4:25pm On Jan 24, 2017
wellmax:

It is just a big shame that NLders won't concede to superior arguments. You lack basic understanding of facts and you would be proud to display such ignorance. But again, this is NL. Any kid can comment.

Your arguments are myopic, thoughtless, halfsighted and totally blind! Why on earth would a country take a loan and get a satellite when it is still going through a recession? There are so many problems out there that needs immediate attention case in point- The Power Sector!

It is so glaring that your oversight on this project is heedless and careless as well as inconsiderate to the plight of many Nigerians who live below $1/day. The government of the day show grow up and seek solutions to necessary quarters not cosmetic solutions to realistic problems.
Re: Nigeria To Launch 2 New Satellites With China Loan - Shittu by Nobody: 4:27pm On Jan 24, 2017
HonabFaj:


In the china loan their are provision for all the ministries, he is only talking of his on ministry as the minister of communication ,all the ministries have their own projects they want to embark on when they got the loan

Your grammar is just as f@cked up as our country under Buhari.

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