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Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by Montaque(m): 7:01pm On Jan 25, 2017
Sirheny007:
Beloved fellow Christians, do not listen to this man...

He wants to start a war...

Is there peace now? Aren't we at war already.

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Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by wadetaw202: 7:01pm On Jan 25, 2017
Kowor:
The way Jesus and his disciples defended themselves or the way stephen did? Please explain.

He is talking about the way Israelites defended themselves. Do you know how many people David, Saul, Samson, Joshua, Abraham, et al killed in battle?

You are free to continue in your timidity. When Fulani herdsmen come to rape your wife, kidnap your kids and to kill you, please just watch them and do nothing. It is you that will lose your life over nothing, not me.
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by Mbediogu(m): 7:03pm On Jan 25, 2017
TheLawTheLegal:
Self defence is a guaranteed right. The right to kill another in defense of oneself is a universal right. It is a defence to murder.

You can also kill in defense of another person. For example, when your neighbour is in danger of being killed, you can kill the intending murderer and it will be a complete defence to murder.

Apostle Suleiman simply reminded Christians of this defence and the DSS is already after him.

When the association of herdsmen, I think they answer Miyatti whatever- openly claimed responsibility for the Agatu massacre, nothing happened nothwisthanding that they made the revelation right in front of the IGP.

Buhari said that the monstrous Islamic herdsmen are from lybia, the northern governors forum said they are from Senegal and Mali while the dwarf presiding over kaduna said that he has already paid them. Is it now a crime for Nigerians to protect themselves against the foreign Islamic monsters?

Some stupid people doubted how Buhari was going to Islamize Nigeria and went ahead and voted this disaster. I am happy to announce to you that the islamisation of Nigeria is here with us.

I pity us, we are never sincere.

We have a duty to stop the islamization come 2019 but my only regret is that Buhari will win again based on reasons other than sanity of the voting electorate. But Nigeria will . . .
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by Penisman: 7:03pm On Jan 25, 2017
Kowor:
Agree. Am not against that. Will do like wise What i don't support is 'kill any fulani.'
for now it is only fulani that takes the lead in killings...
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by wadetaw202: 7:04pm On Jan 25, 2017
AntiWailer:
it is sad.



Jos Crisis, Ife Modakeke Crisis, Kaduna Crisis all have history. They should be resolved sensibly.


Instigating violence and hiding under defend yourself is not what a responsible 'Man of God' should do.

If you recall what happened some years back. They killed people in Kaduna and people started killing people in Ogun State in retaliation.

If you think that is the way to go then you need a sanity check.

I am even tired of Nigeria because it is hard to tell who is scared of EFCC, who lost money in MMM, who missed the money GEJ shared back then and who is genuine.




And what is your idea of an amicable resolution? Look around you and ask yourself if this government has made any effort towards resolving anything.

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Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by emmytalks(m): 7:05pm On Jan 25, 2017
See the truth is this country has really knocked engine. The more you look, the less you see. You asked yourself where are all the people making noise under the 'corrupt PDP'? The truth is we all enjoyed some measure of freedom under previous administrations.

Gradually we are drifting towards a police state where it will be impossible to speak against the president or his 'henchmen'. Please don't quote any bible verse at me, I lost a loved ones to these marauding and hell sent men. The President body language that his followers once told us brought constant light and fought corruption is becoming a signal for attacks.

Something will certainly give soon...best be prepare

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Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by Mujtahida: 7:05pm On Jan 25, 2017
MakeADifference:
The violence, death, and mayhem has left for the homes of killers and haters of Christians.

What exactly is your point. I don't get your drift
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by Equal2DeTask(m): 7:09pm On Jan 25, 2017
Kowor:
Agree. Am not against that. Will do like wise What i don't support is 'kill any fulani.'
U are the one saying ANY FULANI here...
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by Nobody: 7:10pm On Jan 25, 2017
Gbam! If u want me dead, u don't deserve to live!

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Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by wadetaw202: 7:15pm On Jan 25, 2017
Sirheny007:
Beloved fellow Christians, do not listen to this man...

He wants to start a war...

Yes o. Please Christians, don't listen to this man. Instead of listening to this man, just spread out your necks and allow Fulani herdsmen to murder you in cold blood.

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Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by glossy6(f): 7:15pm On Jan 25, 2017
Sirheny007:
Beloved fellow Christians, do not listen to this man...

He wants to start a war...

Are a Christian, Muslim or pagan?

Now repeat after me

I swear by (oya mention Almighty God, Allah or sango, amadioha or eze nmili ) that the evidence I shall give.......

rubbish
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by Jeromejnr(m): 7:15pm On Jan 25, 2017
Kowor:
Read 39

Lol..we can also use dat in our case.

Shrink back and are destroyed. Especially cause one is a coward.

Does that ring any bell.
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by Kowor(f): 7:17pm On Jan 25, 2017
Smart
Equal2DeTask:
U are the one saying ANY FULANI here...
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by Kowor(f): 7:19pm On Jan 25, 2017
And it justifies killing any fulani, yes?
Penisman:
for now it is only fulani that takes the lead in killings...
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by TheLawTheLegal: 7:25pm On Jan 25, 2017
NaMeAboki:


What a fantastic lie, pls provide the link or reference where the MACBAN openly claimed responsibility for any killing or shut up - how stupid would a registered association that can sue and be sued be to do such a thing and still expect to go scot free; if not for your blatant lie. Where is CAN and other Christian organisations who would ignorantly pick on inconsequential issues such as Arabic writing on our currency and Army logo or the American Sec of State's visit to the Sultan etc?

As for right to self defence, no one can argue about that; had the apostle stood before his parish and called for Christians to defend themselves if attacked, no one would say a word; however, what he preached was quite the opposite; he was there openly and recklessly inciting his followers commit murder.

Thankfully, the video has already gone viral and therefore easily available for debate and public scrutiny; he could be heard clearly saying:
(@ 0.47 sec) "I TOLD MY PEOPLE ANY FULANI HERDSMAN YOU SEE AROUND YOU, KILL HIM", (@ 1.02 min.) "AND I'VE TOLD THEM IN THE CHURCH HERE THAT ANY FULANI HERDSMAN THAT JUST ENTERED BY MISTAKE, KILL HIM, KILL HIM, CUT HIS HIS HEAD"...and the incitement continued.

In other words any herdsman who mistakenly strays around the church premises should automatically be killed on sight, irrespective of whether or not he poses a threat to anybody or innocent of any killings; according to this man of God such, person's death sentence was simply for being Fulani and a herdsman, just because he heard a rumour (a mere hearsay without confirmation) that some herdsmen would attack him - can you imagine that?
See the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crkQJLKwWmo

How can that be construed as preaching self defence?


Read this
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/200426-exclusive-struck-agatu-fulani-herdsmen.html
The problem of Nigeria is that people like you are not sincere. You call Arabic inscription on the naira and the Islamic logo on the army uniform inconsequential issues?

Since Nigeria is a secular state by virtue of section 10 of the constitution, why is Nigeria structured in such a way as to favour a particular religion to the extent of having their logos and inscriptions on our national identity. Are we all Muslims?

If I fulani herdsman walks inside a church, know ye that he has come to kill and in self defense, it is only right that his head be cut off. How can a herdsman mistakenly walk inside a church?

Indeed we all are not sincere.

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Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by igwechi1977(m): 7:28pm On Jan 25, 2017
Any one who got Christian votes and turns around to kill Christians must pay
.
Let the surprise begin in Jesus name.Amen
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Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by Nobody: 7:28pm On Jan 25, 2017
NaMeAboki:


What a fantastic lie, pls provide the link or reference where the MACBAN openly claimed responsibility for any killing or shut up - how stupid would a registered association that can sue and be sued be to do such a thing and still expect to go scot free; if not for your blatant lie. Where is CAN and other Christian organisations who would ignorantly pick on inconsequential issues such as Arabic writing on our currency and Army logo or the American Sec of State's visit to the Sultan etc?

As for right to self defence, no one can argue about that; had the apostle stood before his parish and called for Christians to defend themselves if attacked, no one would say a word; however, what he preached was quite the opposite; he was there openly and recklessly inciting his followers commit murder.

Thankfully, the video has already gone viral and therefore easily available for debate and public scrutiny; he could be heard clearly saying:
(@ 0.47 sec) "I TOLD MY PEOPLE ANY FULANI HERDSMAN YOU SEE AROUND YOU, KILL HIM", (@ 1.02 min.) "AND I'VE TOLD THEM IN THE CHURCH HERE THAT ANY FULANI HERDSMAN THAT JUST ENTERED BY MISTAKE, KILL HIM, KILL HIM, CUT HIS HIS HEAD"...and the incitement continued.

In other words any herdsman who mistakenly strays around the church premises should automatically be killed on sight, irrespective of whether or not he poses a threat to anybody or innocent of any killings; according to this man of God such, person's death sentence was simply for being Fulani and a herdsman, just because he heard a rumour (a mere hearsay without confirmation) that some herdsmen would attack him - can you imagine that?
See the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crkQJLKwWmo

How can that be construed as preaching self defence?


Their problem is primary 3 level comprehension, coupled with blind hatred and rank hero-worship.

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Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by Adebowale89(m): 7:50pm On Jan 25, 2017
Kowor:
The way Jesus and his disciples defended themselves or the way stephen did? Please explain.



are u a xtian? if you're you won't be asking dis mu.mu QST

go and read genesis. the story of moses and isrealite and story of david&Goliath


Muslim worldwide represent pharaoh of the contemporary age. nonsense religion of pieces

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Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by ProfJulius1(m): 7:52pm On Jan 25, 2017
We are already approaching the darkness of the night. May the Lord help us out.
http://gospelpoetry.org/the-darkness-of-the-night/
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by dayowunmi(m): 7:58pm On Jan 25, 2017
I understand if the children of the bondwoman disagree with the notion of Apostle Johnson Suleiman that Christians should defend themselves, but what I find astonishing is when ignorant Christians disagrees with the issue of self defense. Please which God instructed David to pursue the enemies who had burnt their city and taken their wives and kids captive? Which God sent an angel to Gideon to rise and defend his community from the rampaging Midianites? How many wars has Israel fought and are still fighting till date even under instruction from God! Will Israel still exist today if after every rocket fired into Israel by the Palestinian thugs is met with a cold notion of "the weapon of our warfare is not carnal..." are rockets, machetes, bombs and shrapnel not carnal weapons? Are ye so devoid of understanding to understand that the verse for the weapon of our warfare is not carnal in response to the scripture that says for we wrestle not against flesh and blood? If you wrestle NOT against flesh and blood, is it not common sense that your weapons cannot be carnal? But if you wrestle against Flesh and blood then the weapon of your warfare ought to be carnal too? If Christians don't defend themselves because we are called to love, then the formula for the enemy is simple. Kill all the Christians and take their land and the fools continue to say vengeance is of God! May God deliver believers from ignorance

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Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by cococandy(f): 8:00pm On Jan 25, 2017
Self defense is a basic human right.
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by obakore20(m): 8:01pm On Jan 25, 2017
Sirheny007:
Beloved fellow Christians, do not listen to this man...

He wants to start a war...



We are already at war
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by acada111(f): 8:05pm On Jan 25, 2017
Sirheny007:
Beloved fellow Christians, do not listen to this man...

He wants to start a war...




Really?
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by dayowunmi(m): 8:06pm On Jan 25, 2017
Adebowale89:




are u a xtian? if you're you won't be asking dis mu.mu QST

go and read genesis. the story of moses and isrealite and story of david&Goliath


Muslim worldwide represent pharaoh of the contemporary age. nonsense religion of pieces
Leave him, he's likely an unbeliever! Ignorance is just pitiful. Imagine him citing Jesus as an example! When it is a fact that Jesus came to the world to die, therefore those who came to arrest him were just helping him fulfill his ministry here on earth. Infact before his arrest, he told his deciples "the hour is come" so he already knew. So Christians who don't have the mission to die for the sins of the world should just watch helplessly when they are being attacked and killed. If modern day Israel have been watching when Palestinian and Jordan terrorists fire rockets into their land will there be an Israel today?
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by dyabman(m): 8:07pm On Jan 25, 2017
Sirheny007:
Beloved fellow Christians, do not listen to this man...

He wants to start a war...

Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by chimaobinelson(m): 8:07pm On Jan 25, 2017
Kowor:
The way Jesus and his disciples defended themselves or the way stephen did? Please explain.
the way mohammed killed n ordered islamic cohort to annihilate non believer
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by Adebowale89(m): 8:10pm On Jan 25, 2017
dayowunmi:

Leave him, he's likely an unbeliever! Ignorance is just pitiful. Imagine him citing Jesus as an example! When it is a fact that Jesus came to the world to die, therefore those who came to arrest him were just helping him fulfill his ministry here on earth. Infact before his arrest, he told his deciples "the hour is come" so he already knew. So Christians who don't have the mission to die for the sins of the world should just watch helplessly when they are being attacked and killed. If modern day Israel have been watching when Palestinian and Jordan terrorists fire rockets into their land will there be an Israel today?


don't mind her. she just want to be notice maybe she's a Fulani herds girl

even if Suleman don't talk. why shud i open my eyes see someone that want to kill me while I have weapon to defend myself and will now be looking coz I'm a xtian. heaven protect those who protect themselves

defence is not a sin
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by israelmao(m): 8:10pm On Jan 25, 2017
Kowor:
The way Jesus and his disciples defended themselves or the way stephen did? Please explain.

From your statement it seems you are far from the flashpoints or better still none of your relatives or loved ones has ever been a victim of fulani herdmen onslaught.
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by Nobody: 8:20pm On Jan 25, 2017
Afriifa:
Already Did SIR. Even David a man after God own heart was a war General. Christians should stop being timid
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by pejuakinab: 8:21pm On Jan 25, 2017
Sirheny007:
Beloved fellow Christians, do not listen to this man...

He wants to start a war...

Theirs war already! only the fastest will survive.
Christian should be watchful
Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by NaMeAboki: 8:31pm On Jan 25, 2017
TheLawTheLegal:


Read this
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/200426-exclusive-struck-agatu-fulani-herdsmen.html
The problem of Nigeria is that people like you are not sincere. You call Arabic inscription on the naira and the Islamic logo on the army uniform inconsequential issues?

Since Nigeria is a secular state by virtue of section 10 of the constitution, why is Nigeria structured in such a way as to favour a particular religion to the extent of having their logos and inscriptions on our national identity. Are we all Muslims?

If I fulani herdsman walks inside a church, know ye that he has come to kill and in self defense, it is only right that his head be cut off. How can a herdsman mistakenly walk inside a church?

Indeed we all are not sincere.

And indeed the problem with some of you as someone just mention is primary 3 level of comprehension.
I have read the story and still can't find how a detailed explanation of the cause of the problem (the killing of their ppl including a well respected leader and stealing of over 500 of their cows by locals identified to the police who yet took no action) amount to taking full responsibility for the murders? Where did you read that the MACBAN or any of its affiliates took full responsibility for any killing?
Comprehension, Comprehension, Comprehension - seems to have evaded you; though I am happy with link because provided further insight to the untold story of the Fulani side of the conflict.
As for the Arabic currency inscriptions and military logo matter, pls do not quote to me any part of the constitution and further display your abject ignorance.
Kindly explain how usage of any language or alphabet constitute to adoption of a religion; do you know that there are arabic translations of the Bible and that many Arabs are also Christians?
Besides, if you should still continue have a problem with all of this, why not take your complaint to our colonial masters, also christians like yourself, who started it all.

Lastly, you can similarly take your complaint to God for creating more Muslims in this country - bigotry is a disease; stop being ignorant and hateful.

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Re: "I Repeat It, Christians Defend Yourself" - Apostle Suleman by JayJustus(m): 8:34pm On Jan 25, 2017
the Bible said "pray for your enemies" but the Bible didn't state what kind of prayers we should pray...and I know the type of prayers I've been praying for this government...


I wish Benson Idahosa was alive...tell me Buhari will come and arrest him then that day fire will come down from heaven

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