promzyphyno:


They missed d two penalties,d goal came frm a goal mouth scramble

Lazyerudite:

It is just like not making the champions league and you want to claim that you are one of Europe's best, I did not say win but at least participate, let's stop this idea that we are there but instead pray we keep improving, we have missed two consecutive nation's cup and you still want to rate us as top five Time has a way of sorting things out

goldfish80:
Thanks for pointing that out, my memory was abit fuzzy. The officiating of that game was simply bad.

zicky:
we should forget the bad officiating against Senegal but point to the one against S/A(are you for real?). I think the list has to do with national team and not club football, so I don't see where sundown come into play, if we go your angle then England should be in World top 5 team.

Icon4s:


You are judging with just one encounter. That is what I am trying to point against. We need a general assessment. Recall that same Egypt beat Ghana 2-0 in November.

Morocco beat Ivory Coast last night you would now rate Morocco higher than Ivory Coast right?

chrisooblog:
@lazyerudite i think you are underestimating the current strength of the super eagles. yes we failed to qualify for this year's AFCON but like icon said we were slightly unlucky against the egyptians a last minute loss of concentration cost us a win in kaduna. mind you these same egyptians beat a highly fancied ghana in the WC qualifiers. yes congo and sudan beat us but you didn't add that we later rallied to defeat them. don't let failure to qualify for AFCON be the main determinant of our team's level remember we didn't qualify for the 2012 edition but went on to win the next one

zicky:
you did not answer his question, he asked is Togo, guinea bussau, Gabon are better than Nigeria because they are in Afcon, Yes or No

Lazyerudite:

My point has not been one but missing two in tow says a lot. Our time will come, until then let's not put pressure on a growing team.

chrisooblog:
i'm saying even in missing 2 back to back AFCON one cannot conclude our team is not there without looking at extenuating circumstances. cameroon failed to qualify for 2012 and 2013 AFCON but qualified comfortably for the world cup in brazil. yes our team is still growing but at this moment we match up favourably against the best on the continent if and when this generation of players reach their potential we will be talking of them matching if not surpassing our 90s golden generation

goldfish80:

You just nitpicked some points I raised to form a general conclusion which is unfair.
If you read my post holistically, you have noticed I tried to eliminate officiating and judge the teams on balance of play.

Against Burkina Faso, they dominated Burkina for long periods till somehow the home team rallied to pull an undeserved draw.
Against Senegal, it was the same story. They out played Senegal based on the balance of play. If you actually watched that game, I challenge you to say otherwise.

Finally, you have to understand the strength of a league reflects on the national team. Especially for a country whose national team depends on their league for players.
When Ahly nationale were rulling Africa, Egypt dominated the AFCON for 3 editions. DRC have dominated the champions league with TP Mazembe and they have 2 CHANs to show for it. Their national team is one of the best in Africa at the moment. Same can be said about South Africa. There's a relationship between the league and the national team.
It's easy to call out Ingurland but people don't usually point out Germany, Spain, France, Argentina, and the likes who have a good league and a solid national team.

People may laugh it off when I say this, but had Christian Chukwu blended in more Enyimba players in his Afcon squad of 2004 and 2006,we would have won the those editons easily.

Lazyerudite:

For me, I will wait for the true test and judge then, I know they will get better but I will not put the cart before the horse

goldfish80:

Close to 90% of the Sundown team are South Africans. Even their coaching crew.
Billiat, the Liberian guy and Onyango were the only foreigners who started that finals. The rest were South Africans.
You cannot compare them with TP Mazembe who starts 8 foreigners in their starting 11.

SA are a few tweaks from hitting the top in Africa. If not for the murder of the formidable keeper/captain Senzo, they would have been much closer to the top. It appears they have moved on after all from that terrible loss.

Lazyerudite:

Did they make it to the last two editions of the tournament

bataderemi:
http://m.goal.com/s/en-ng/news/4055/main/2017/01/25/31943612/jesus-is-here-bleak-future-for-kelechi-iheanacho-at

terzurum5:
Eupen Chief Says Onyekuru Is Too Good For Scottish Football – Germany Is Best For Him



Celtic strike target Henry Onyekuru has been told he is too good for a move to Scottish football.


Scotland’s champions Celtic are weighing up a fresh bid for the 19-year-old Nigerian after an opening offer in excess of £1million was turned down by Belgian outfit KAS Eupen.


The Parkhead club started freeing up space for new faces by sending midfielder Ryan Christie on loan to Aberdeen for the rest of the season.


However, Eupen chief executive Christoph Henkel insists Onyekuru won’t be one of them after vowing to keep him until the summer, when he believes Germany will be a better platform for his talents than the SPFL.


‘We are only eight games from the end of the regular phase of the championship and only five points ahead of last place,’ said Henkel. ‘We aren’t sure to stay in Division One. Therefore we can’t be separated from such an attacking player as Henry Onyekuru before summer.


‘We know Celtic are interested, but Red Bull Leipzig are as well. I don’t think the Scottish league is an option for Henry.


‘Scotland is 23rd on the UEFA ranking and Belgium ninth. Our competition is therefore more rewarding. Besides, I think the qualities of Henry Onyekuru don’t correspond to Scottish football. He would be more likely to flourish in the Bundesliga.’

owngoalnigeria.com/2017/01/25/eupen-chief-says-onyekuru-is-too-good-for-scottish-football-germany-is-best-for-him/

TheGoodJoe:


Guardiola said he will use Gabriel Jesus as a winger. All these one the author of that article is writing is long story. In the game against Tottenham, Gabriel Jesus played as a wing forward. Unless Guardiola starts using Gabriel as a Center forward, Nacho is safe.

terzurum5:
City legend Shaun Goater was unequivocal in his assessment two weeks ago, telling sports.bwin.com that it is clear Guardiola does not trust Iheanacho, in spite of his statements to the contrary.

It seems an odd position to adopt over a player who is averaging a goal every 96 minutes, but thereis an element of doublespeak, bordering on hypocrisy, to the handling of Iheanacho at the Etihad.

tbaba1234:


When Aguero was suspended, how many games did Kelechi play?

Was Sterling not used as center forward ahead of Kelechi?

TheGoodJoe:


Guardiola said he will use Gabriel Jesus as a winger. All these one the author of that article is writing is long story. In the game against Tottenham, Gabriel Jesus played as a wing forward. Unless Guardiola starts using Gabriel as a Center forward, Nacho is safe.

zicky:
Nacho is very safe on the bench....oh I forget we can't even find him on the bench again, very very safe somewhere in the stadium

TheGoodJoe:


The point is that Iheanacho played more when Aguero was suspended. If we were playing a two man attack, Iheanacho would see more games. If Aguero was not playing, Iheanacho will see more games.

TheGoodJoe:


Safe with respect to Gabriel Jesus being a threat to Iheanacho's chances at City.

tbaba1234:


Yet Kelechi lost his place on the bench due to the signing..

TheGoodJoe:


You guys keep talking of Kelechi/Gabriel Jesus. Did you guys noticed that Fabian Delph also returned to the squad?

Relax. Even a quality player like Nolito is not seeing games.