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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by genaro2000(m): 9:09am On Jan 27, 2017 |
Hello i have fairly used 3500 litres of plastic movable pond in Lagos for give away price. All the plumbing work already done. For more enquiries call 08181017822 or 08053043786.
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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 11:32am On Jan 27, 2017 |
kareka:EVERY waste food in your kitchen eg eba,semo,rice,beans etc. mash to pickable size eg yam because they cant easily feed on the big lumps. watch that your water mgt is properly manage. if flesh(livestock/poultry),cook a bit. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by yungdavo: 11:32am On Jan 27, 2017 |
Pls where did you get that pond anti fungi and bacteria remover stuff and where will I buy the feeds I mean the Ziegler in Lagos. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 11:53am On Jan 27, 2017 |
duullie88:from 2months you can confidently do,i did earlier,but i understand mechanism of behaviour by His Grace,so i easily change response to observation. Important you note that i said when funds expectation had question,i decided to improvise. So my advice is dont try short changing your fishes,buy those you could effectively manage,except you have a situation at hand as mentioned earlier. It is when you decide to put too much blood meal that crisis can easily erupt,though high in protein,but pollutes water & encourage diseases when use in very high quantity.soyabean meal could be use in replacing it. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 12:07pm On Jan 27, 2017 |
Busayo1981:i tell people that you dont just do things,but it is essential what you want to do on your farm,there is need for it. Though some of the advantages of covered ponds is to generate heat during cold weather or reduce heat during hot weather depending on the type of color covering use,in the dark,your fishes a relax etc.,you can determine healthy fishes from sick ones easily if partly covered.It also encourage feeding to say a few. The question you will ask yourself is which of these are you targeting to achieve,at what cost in relationship to your pond size.When you evaluate well,then you could decide |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by duullie88(m): 12:39pm On Jan 27, 2017 |
excelsiorfarm: Thank u sir 4 quick response. . Wit a planned venture of 1000 fishes from juvenile to table size , how much will it cost to feed them with foreign feed and vital feeds to table size and how many month will it take 4 d fishes to attain 1kg.. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by alakara(m): 3:03pm On Jan 27, 2017 |
vroom:the direction of your pen should be east west direction, every other thing you said is OK. 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 4:53pm On Jan 27, 2017 |
Thank you sir. this is my first major trial on farming and all the things i know, i got from this platform. my fishes are doing well but i know i do not know enough. Please educate me more. Which is better? but from what i understand, partly covering the pond is better. kindly correct me if am wrong. thank you excelsiorfarm: |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Yinkame123(m): 10:08pm On Jan 27, 2017 |
I must commend you and the others sir for empowering thousands of Nigerians to be self sufficient through fish farming in the ways you share knowledge on the subject matters. May God continue to bless you guys. As a result of the information and courage derived from these forum I decided to start fish farming this year. So there has been challenges which I am gradually overcoming. I acquired an 100/100 swampy land. Dug two earthen ponds of 30/30/4 and 40/20/4. Planning to dig another 20/20/4 for sorting purpose. As a result of the season water has been a major challenge for me. Tried to dig Manila borehole but was not successful as the quys hit rock at 9 feet out of the 40k initial payment I gave them only 10k was returned. I later chooses option of well. Unfortunately, they could only achieve 14 feet before they hit a big rock that they cannot continue. Presently when we leave the well for two days we have at least 6 feed of water. So I pumped the water into the pond two days interval. I planned to stock 4000 juvenile. I have purchase 17 bags of foreign feeds durante and top feeds of 1.8mm, 2mm, 3mm and 4mm. I have also paid for the juvenile and was told will be ready in five weeks. Please the area I would like you to pls throw more light for me is how long will it take them to finish the foreign feed? When can I start local feed and what quantity of local feed will be required to table size. I planned 4 months 10 days principle. God bless you sir and hoping to hear your response. excelsiorfarm: |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 5:49am On Jan 28, 2017 |
duullie88:mentioning cost varies from location to location base on feed price, feeding type(combinations like foreign, locals or alternatives etc.) and largely depends on individual management and the quality of fish seeds bought with size or age at purchase. TO reach 1kg, first influence is, are you buying ijebu size, fingerlings, post fingerlings or juveniles? this will dictate it. fish farming like all farming is not rocket science, yes you know this is a gestation period, but what determines if it will be achieve is knowledge with good management. 3-5 months, even some cases some still struggle to reach 800grams at 6 months. Depends on the factors you work with or work from. Get someone close to your base and understudy for 2-3 weeks for practical hand on the basics. It saves time and cash |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 6:05am On Jan 28, 2017 |
Busayo1981:God Bless every contributors on this platform in Jesus Name, Amen. All the education needed is written here. And we are all learning and improving daily by God's Grace. Partly cover is okay, if you are wrong, you might not enjoy correction(though you are not wrong) , but when weather temperature is getting too cold. In other for your fishes to have appetite, you have to generate some increase in temperature i.e. when you don't have heater and know-how to use it, or use coal if an indoor type of fish farm. Also if no adverse weather condition, there is no need to cover |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 6:21am On Jan 28, 2017 |
Yinkame123:Please PRAISE GOD HIS GRACE. Amen to your Prayers. Those ponds are wide, what is your target? you know you count cost before starting e.g. number of fishes etc. Also what is the topography of area in case the rain comes so that your fishes could be secured against washing away by flood e.tc. In business, you have to be a bit crude with cash if you don't want to be sent to village, since you agreed on a borehole, my expectation will be to negotiate initially how deep or depth of their work could be, what if they meet obstacle? who takes what and bear the losses or are they going to change site of location etc., But sha we learn daily. Good well diggers know that at times they have to use explosive mechanism to break rock layers and some of those layers could even be thin layers of rocks. Lime your ponds before your fishes come, it aids fish growth by planktons growth and assist to destroy some suppose harmful organisms that might be resident in your ponds. I cannot give you a vivid timing because the 17 bags of feed are just of varying sizes and moreover if indeed you are to be sold juveniles, I don't think 1.8mm should be in your feed range, except you are saying properly the breeder have not being faithful enough to give quality feed at the fishes infancy. You can choose to start your local at 10 weeks, it also depends on their growth. When we talk of local feeds, please endeavor to buy from reputable ones. what you give will determine your result at the end of the day. 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by odohemma(m): 6:57am On Jan 28, 2017 |
Ttalk: I am interested. You can WhatsApp/call me on 08094640212 |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by haleemwale(m): 7:48am On Jan 28, 2017 |
@robonski15 and @excelsiorfarm I want to ask if there are any cheap alternatives to BIO DISC..I Was reading through yday and I fink it ll be handy but it is quite expensive and I ll also like to knw if its advisable to fetch d water for hatching days b4 hatchn...I would like to know Y if its a yes or No...thank you in advance sirs... U guys re doing a great job. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 8:21am On Jan 28, 2017 |
haleemwale:Everyone is doing great here. Even without biodisc,you can do fish farming effectively & profit Well. Do good water mgt,introduce clean water or use aeration & you are on track as an alternative. Re-write your question on fetch water,explain what you mean,so i can give you a valid answer. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by haleemwale(m): 9:05am On Jan 28, 2017 |
excelsiorfarm: Thank you for the quick reply...is it advicable to fill your pond with water which u ll use for hatching days before spawning (like 2-3days before spawning).. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by koxyz: 10:47am On Jan 28, 2017 |
Ttalk:Please,my brother,how do we ensure that the three conditions are met.One thing that baffies me again is how to get mould for 0.5-0.8 and others.The high cost of feeds is making us to start looking inward,I'm banking on your experty in this area,please feel free to share and God will bless you. |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 11:27am On Jan 28, 2017 |
haleemwale:PLEASE ALL: TRY NOT TO QUOTE ME DIRECTLY,SO OTHERS TOO CAN CONTRIBUTE. it also helps me to be at a position of rest. To read from the background,thank you. Now to answer you, there is plus & minus to everything. Depends on water composition etc. Some examples i will give with experiences,but better fresh water except in water with trait of chlorine,iron,impurities. When i say fresh,could be hours or even minutes before(which i had done). I had experience issue of leaving water overcome & d next day,barely all over there oil like substance had overtaken the whole surface,lost a lot From that event. A time in festac town, because of high iron content in some water or areas, water that was barely left for hours already have something like rust or brownish deposit. So know your water & test your water |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by hemebent(m): 12:02pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
robonski15: Wise advice |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by haleemwale(m): 12:45pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Thank you sir |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by hemebent(m): 12:53pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
micgray100: I hope my suggestion helps. My farm is in an eastern part of Nigeria where we BUY WATER FROM TANKERS because boreholes are almost impossible. Due to the capacity of fishes I raise, I had to buy two tankers (one tank is 8000-10,000 liters) every five days at N10,000 per tanker so imagine what i suffered. I used multiple layers of biological and non-biological filter materials. Gravel Carbonated charcoal Rubber sponge (like the ones used for dishes in the kitchen) Sharp sand Polyester filling Larva rocks (those rocks we use to wash the back and underneath our feet in the bathroom) break into pieces of about 2 inch diameter. Window net (with the smallest holes possible) Oyster shells (from the beach. Just go there and pack as many as you can. If possible is some sack-bags) Wash all these one by one. YES!!! WASH SAND AND ALSO WASH CHARCOAL TOO! Wash and pour away the water, repeat it over and over till when you put water in the bowl you're washing the sand and it comes out sparkling clean. I mean you can see the sand through the water just as you see it in the beach. The same for the charcoal, gravel and larva rocks. Get a plastic barrel and prepare a strong platform either made with thick wood or blocks or whatever you feel can hold the weight of the barrel and its contents to suspend it above your ponds so the outlet dives straight into the ponds. Put the bigger materials first at the bottom. You can break the charcoals too to about 2 inch diameter also. Arrange them level by level. For example, polyester filling at the bottom of the barrel, gravel above the polyester, oyster shells above the gravel, charcoal above the oyster shells, sharp sand over the charcoal, the sponges over the sharp sand, window net over the sponges. What you're trying to achieve is filter the dirt in the water according to the size of the dirt. the net works as a sieve for larger particles and so on to the bottom where the polyester filters the smallest particles. Your water changing color and not looking clear, after this, it might not look so pure but most of the dirt will be out of the water and the fishes can swim easily. I purchased some small submersible pumps for aquariums from an aquarium shop in Lagos around Ikotun-Egbe axis. It's not hard to locate. The pumps use little energy. One of them pumps with a pressure high as 3 meters and was purchased sometime in October for N22,000 while dollar rate was still crazy but not as ridiculous as now. It might be cheaper now though. I power everything in my farm with Solar panels. I have 6 solar panels. Each with a capacity of 300Watts. Two inverters so if there's ever a fault on one whatsoever I can switch to the other one. The inverter is 4KVA with a few batteries They power all my aerators, pumps for all the ponds, etc. To save cost, I'll advice you look for very small solar panel with watts that can power that pump. Small capacity inverter and also a battery. You'll save more money compared to turning on your generator for the filtration to work a few hours daily. You'll need to clean the net at the top of the filter or change it frequently when it's filled with dirt by using another net while you wash the previous one and hang it to dry somewhere. As for the other stuff above the sharp sand, wash once a week or twice a week with just 20 liters of water. You won't need more than that. Connect a hose to the outlet of the pump which you would direct to the top of the barrel. Make a hole in the cover of the barrel where the hose will go in. Make a much smaller outlet at the bottom of the barrel (like angle 90 in it) so small that the charcoal or gravel you placed over the polyester won't fall out of the barrel when water is going exiting the barrel after filtration. I don't know if I was clear enough but i just typed as I remembered the things I did, maybe I didn't explain the steps well but if you have any questions whatsoever, feel free to ask me. We're going through recession, money doesn't have to come into everything. Helping each other get by is the way to save cost for one another. Whatever advice you need from me is free. Heme. 4 Likes |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by itamaomoh: 12:56pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Please I want to go into fish farming... Have red a lot from @robonski 1st page n learnt a lot... I want to ask how much is the least cost for fish farming. Secondly Lagos or North region, which will you prefer in feeding d fishes, talk of topography n environment? |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Star30: 2:02pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
excelsiorfarm:thanks a bunch sir |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by psmith3233: 7:49pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
So I have been reading all about the fish farming although my mum did it and she ran away cos of the cost of feeding the fish and then the water they said was not good for the fish... Now I am of the mindset to start it again. I need advice on how to treat the water just for the fish to do well and the cost of feeding ...is there anyway one can manage that to its minimum? |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by kareka(m): 10:11pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Please house, I stocked 2,000 fishes in an earthen pond Saturday last week,on getting there today 28th January, I noticed d pond water has turned Black, please what is the course |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Yinkame123(m): 8:56am On Jan 29, 2017 |
Thank you sir for the response. The topography is OK it wouldn't posed any risk of fish wash away. I intended to stock 4000 fishes. I planned to feed them to table size. What should I use to lime the pond? And for how long should the lime stays In the pond? Will I need to pump out the water after liming? Is liming same as fertilization? Please I need more enlightenment on feed regime from foreign to local. Thanks in advance quote author=excelsiorfarm post=53195283] Please PRAISE GOD HIS GRACE. Amen to your Prayers. Those ponds are wide, what is your target? you know you count cost before starting e.g. number of fishes etc. Also what is the topography of area in case the rain comes so that your fishes could be secured against washing away by flood e.tc. In business, you have to be a bit crude with cash if you don't want to be sent to village, since you agreed on a borehole, my expectation will be to negotiate initially how deep or depth of their work could be, what if they meet obstacle? who takes what and bear the losses or are they going to change site of location etc., But sha we learn daily. Good well diggers know that at times they have to use explosive mechanism to break rock layers and some of those layers could even be thin layers of rocks. Lime your ponds before your fishes come, it aids fish growth by planktons growth and assist to destroy some suppose harmful organisms that might be resident in your ponds. I cannot give you a vivid timing because the 17 bags of feed are just of varying sizes and moreover if indeed you are to be sold juveniles, I don't think 1.8mm should be in your feed range, except you are saying properly the breeder have not being faithful enough to give quality feed at the fishes infancy. You can choose to start your local at 10 weeks, it also depends on their growth. When we talk of local feeds, please endeavor to buy from reputable ones. what you give will determine your result at the end of the day.[/quote] 1 Like |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 2:55pm On Jan 29, 2017 |
[quote author=Yinkame123 post=53226401]Thank you sir for the response. The topography is OK it wouldn't posed any risk of fish wash away. I intended to stock 4000 fishes. I planned to feed them to table size. What should I use to lime the pond? And for how long should the lime stays In the pond? Will I need to pump out the water after liming? Is liming same as fertilization? Please I need more enlightenment on feed regime from foreign to local. Thanks in advance ] you use agriculture lime, two weeks is okay, pump out water before,after it would have develop the flora,micro organism & plankton as food for fishes & kill some possible harmful ones. Liming differ from fertilization,but liming also enhance the aquatic ecosystem. For feeding,a lot dictates,if you want good foundation it is encourage that you start with foreign because many local feeds do not aid good growth for small fishes,but would perform better for fishes from 2 months. Though some local feed could be successfully use to feed through |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by TFeminist(f): 3:47pm On Jan 29, 2017 |
Goodday. Pls I seek farmers in abuja. Thanks alot. excelsiorfarm: |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Hollyzulufarm: 5:02pm On Jan 29, 2017 |
I am heartfilled with the information i gathered here, i wish to start fish farming but i need to get info on the training, i have a plot but i will love to earthen pond |
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 5:14pm On Jan 29, 2017 |
TFeminist:long i left abuja,but i think Ttalk is in abuja & some of our people here. I will only ask that "IF YOU ARE A FISHFARMER IN ABUJA,PLEASE IDENTIFY." I believe you want a sincere one,hence keep us posted from the response you get 2 Likes |
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