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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 9:31am On Jan 28, 2017 |
Lucasbalo:He thinks he's Tucker Carlson or Lou Dobbs on Fox News dishing out propaganda and 'Alternative Facts'. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 9:35am On Jan 28, 2017 |
Missy89:I'll agree with you that we don't know the intricacies of some of these but I think we can agree that Defense is the home base of wasteful spendings in the United States. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 9:42am On Jan 28, 2017 |
ValerianSteel:I tell you what, he's a piece of work. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 9:45am On Jan 28, 2017 |
ValerianSteel:You are absolutely right on that. I don't like to get into the military stuff but the wastage in the Pentagon is second to none. Hopefully, things will right itself but not under the regime. MIC has a lot to do with that wastage too. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by bigcycs: 10:02am On Jan 28, 2017 |
We are in a Nigerian forum run and administrated by Nigerians and yet some of us here think only American citizens have a right to comment here and I find this ridiculous . Nairaland created a foreign politics section for a reason ,obviously we don't all have to be tax paying Americans to have a say in the foreign politics section of a Nigerian forum .some of us have family and/or friends residing in the us and even if we don't ,goings on in America always has an effect on the rest of the world ,that's why America is the number one ,that's why she is the world's power ,if America sneezes ,the rest of the wall coughs if a country is to be declared terrorist ,America decides it ,if sanctions are to be placed on a country America decides it ,America just decided to stop funding abortion and the rest of the world is already shaking ,if America hates a country ,that country is doomed ,if America decides to flood the market with its oil ,our country nigeria is dead and buried and only a fool would ignore American affairs simply because he/she is not a tax paying citizen just as only a very myopic man would think only Americans have an opinion on American affairs . I say this with particular reference to Mr lucasbalo, you are known to attack any contrary opinion with the argument that since a person isn't in America and doesn't pay taxes as you allegedly do ,he/she has no say and I find this quite ironic because you are commenting in a Nigerian forum created and run by Nigerians and you think only American citizens have a right to comment ?,I don't know what sort of logic informs this line of argument but it's as annoying as it's childish and weak .why don't you create an American version of naira land and allow signups from only tax paying Americans so you can get opinions from only fellow Americans as yourself . The beauty of foreign politics is when everyone from around the globe airs their views . Should nairaland.com then ban all Nigerians residing in Nigeria and suffering and living in poverty in Nigeria from commenting in the foreign politics section so you can stop getting agitated when someone disagrees with you ? It's funny you accuse president Trump of intolerance and bigotry but you exhibit same when you feel that only Americans have a right to comment on American politics in a Nigerian forum. why don't you berate Seun ,the owner of Nairaland.com and a Nigerian to delete the foreign politics section. Why can you not just attack someone with your own superior facts as an American citizen and spare us the sad rhetoric ,you have been using these lines as long as anyone can care to remember and frankly it is dissapointing. I come here to get opposing views about America as I have family there and even more importantly ,my suffer head naira exchanges at 500-1$ now so American issues affects me ,everyone else and the rest of the world and you must get used to it . I am guessing you would attack me too,call me poor bust conductor etc and probably won't stop the bigotry but let it be on record that such argument doesn't speak well of you as a person and I can only hope it's just a nairaland.com thing and not how you debate in real life . Stanec obixel and all other guys here who oppose you have as much right to contribute in this section as you think you do and if u think they are wretched Nigerians who have no right to contribute then maybe you should create your own "dollarland" forum of only rich elite "big boys" and yall can have at it with each other in there . This is Nairaland.com ,owned and run by Nigerians and Nigerians have an opinion in here till the day we all die and our children's children carry on from where we stop. 13 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by uniklinkum(m): 10:49am On Jan 28, 2017 |
bigcycs: Load of hogwash balderdash!!! How about you go get a worthy education first and stop composing toilet standard horseshit. We have to call out you and the other sack air, y'all ain't Americans and y'all should stick with the discuss of y'all hellhole. The recession must be having a toll on brain functioning capacities in your neck of the wood, little wonder most of y'all are drumpf aasss licking gobbles. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by bigcycs: 11:23am On Jan 28, 2017 |
uniklinkum: About time you clocked in!!!! Its easy to tell who desperately needs an education between us ,i'd have addressed the rest of what you typed but as I cant speak r3tard .I'd have to pass . I usually ignore unintelligent posts laced with vitriol and colourful language but I'd displease myself this one time and dignify you with a response and it would be the last. You seem very bitter and unhappy and always angry and i wonder why that is ,where you abused as a child ? Are you getting enough s3x? ,from your responses it appears you have a good job and have lived in countries with great economies so barring any other personal details ,i have to conclude you have more than enough reason to be happy and thankful for life .Take a chill okay ,life is to be enjoyed ,go out meet people ,agree to disagree without been disrespectful ,i wager you'd be a much better person for it , 11 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 11:44am On Jan 28, 2017 |
bigcycs:All that epistle because of me. In all your worthless epistle, tell me one time I stop anyone from airing their views ?. That's First Amendment which is hallmark of American democracy . Do you find them offensive when they call me names or call my other Buddies here Libtards or Clowns ?. The difference between us and guys like you is that we have stakes in America as American citizens. What's your stake in America ?. Supporting a racist president who do not give a damn about you or people that looks like you. We have the right as much as they do to air our opinions. So, you can foam in the mouth all you want , it means nothing in the scheme of things because you and your inter loping friends doesn't count when it comes to America . 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 11:52am On Jan 28, 2017 |
uniklinkum:My man, imagine the kind of energy these guys spend on America , if they do the same for Nigeria , she will be one of the greatest countries in the world. Why are they so consumed with America while Nigeria is being mismanaged and hyperinflation is turning the Naira to tissue paper. Just came back from Nigeria couple weeks ago and sadly it's like the country is regressing instead of progressing but the clowns here are perfectly ok with The Titanic. Guys are trying to put out a fire in a house thousands of miles away while neglecting their own house being gutted down by raging inferno. I wonder why Nigeria is in a situation she's in. It's because of clowns like we have in foreign section here. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by bigcycs: 11:56am On Jan 28, 2017 |
Lucasbalo: I hope you haven't escaped with the impression that I am in support of or against your president Trump cuz that would be an erroneous deduction ,go ahead call each names,hell kill each other if you like , my point has been made crystal clear Nigerians can comment about America in a Nigerian forum and wether their comment matters or not that's another kettle of fish ,it's the foreign section for God's sake!!! You'd have to agree this place would be quite boring if only you and your crew where debating I mean imagine if everyone had similar views up in here lol 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 12:04pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
bigcycs:I know a lot of Nigerians here that I don't want to mention their names that I value their opinions because they know of which they speak. My problem with the two guys you mentioned is like a deer voting for a lion. Trump is an overt racist and the guys on nairaland doesn't know the effect of racism like we do. I grew up abhorring racism because it is damaging to peoples pysche especially youths. That's my main problem with some of our guys here. If you want a Tribalist to lead Nigeria , good luck to you. I have nothing against those guys but for them to be kowtowing to KKK and Aryan Nation members is very appalling to people like us who knows about the evil being perpetrated in minority communities all over America . 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by happney65: 1:40pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
When the next Monthly Job report comes out,Am wondering if Trump would accept it and claim hes policies made unemployment lower..All throughout he claimed umemployment is about 40percent and the low unemployement rate is Bogus..I wonder what he would say this time around..It wont be "Alternative facts" anymore..Hypocrite.. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 2:20pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
happney65:Give him the credit, he's working things out faster, don't know why folks like u keep underestimating him. You may not like his personality or the way he talks bluntly, but he talks and he acts. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 2:29pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
President Trump signed an executive order late Friday which temporarily bars refugees from entering the United States. Trump signed the order on refugees while at the Pentagon, minutes after General James Mattis was sworn in as Secretary of Defense by Vice President Mike Pence at a brief ceremony which the president attended. The executive order, “Protecting the Nation from Terrorist Attacks by Foreign Nationals,” contained these key elements: -Suspended the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program for 120 days, prohibiting the arrival of refugees into the United States from any country during that period -Ordered the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security to undertake a complete review of the refugee vetting process -Permanently banned Syrian refugees until President Trump determined otherwise, and -Lowered the ceiling of refugees allowed to enter the United States during Fiscal Year 2017 to 50,000. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by happney65: 2:47pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
obixcel: He hasnt done anything different..Obama did the same thing when he became President most especially when he got a Near Collapsed Economy courtesy of Bush..So there's no big deal in whatsoever he might have done so far. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 3:48pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
uniklinkum:My man, keep giving them hell . 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by An0nimus: 4:00pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Thanks for pointing that out bigcycs. At the end of the day, anyone can voice their opinions. Shouting them down as non-tax paying America wannabees is pretty low in my book. And this is not just about Stench (who I find pretty crazy btw lol). Most contrary opinions are attacked in a similar manner - as long as you are in Nigeria you are unqualified to comment on US issues. People are wired differently I guess. There are tax-paying Americans here who point out facts without rubbing their status in people's faces. Just like there are Nigerians who argue without saying 'Libtards' or Americans kool-aid drinkers. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 4:35pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
happney65:No big deal? lol Give him time bro, It's almost just a week, right? |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 4:46pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
An0nimus:You both are right, but they will never listen, believe me. Before the election I hammered on that but to no avail. The mere fact that their geographic location is in the U.S is a plus for them and hence they don't give a sh*t about anyone else's opinion, forgetting that this is nairaland, a naija forum for that. They can't stand the fact that people are very much involved in Foreign countries' affairs just as much as they do with their respective countries. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 5:08pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
134 million people have, so far, been banned from entering the US due to President Trump's Executive order suspending refugee admissions for 120 days |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 5:34pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
CFCman:Begining of Nazism and the birth of the Fourth Reich. Bravo for a bigoted Presidente. 17 of the 19 hijackers of the planes that attacked the Pentagon and the Financial Towers were from Saudi Arabia and SA is not banned from coming to US. You wonder why. Oil, Oil and Oil, since we have an Oil man as SOS. America don enter one chance. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by uniklinkum(m): 6:07pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Lucasbalo: You need to see the way he was talking of taking Iraqi oil as if he planted it there. The morrafucker is still leaving the 1800s. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:17pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Appleyard: I like your logic, create 5 New companies...Who will buy their products...Or you think designing military weapons is something that takes a year or two...The money the government would pour in is just not enough and chances are new companies won't have the data to manufacture "hot cakes"It's better to just keep on pumping the money, it will get done someday. If the USA reneges on its contracts other Nations won't forget that slight easily, now that Trump is becoming more Isolationist, it's just not worth the strain in International Relations. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by uniklinkum(m): 6:51pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Iran just ban entry on all us citizens, the whole world need to ban us. Anyone can help with procedures of obtaining Nigerian passport in Europe?? 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 6:53pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
obixcel:Do you cheer or denounce this? Anyone cheering this is a heartless soul. 1. I'll start first on who is a refugee? A refugee is a person running away from a troubled land where all basic human rights and decency no longer exist while chaos tears through the societal fabric of that country. The unsafe environment prompts these men, women and children to seek a safe haven. 2. We should be glad they've always seen the United States as the beacon of hope where they can come to, be welcomed with open hands and live freely and better than they did in their former countries. The United States has actively led the world in showing kindness to people in distress by welcoming refugees. 3. The lives of refugees are made harder by the waiting and vetting period they undergo before being accepted into the United States after scrutiny from the respective agencies in charge. Sometimes, the process takes a short 6-9 months, others take 2-4 years. They are only accepted after each agencies agree such individual passed the test to come into America freely as there's no evidence they are a threat to the safety of any American should they come in. Let it be known even in the most dire situations, the process is not hastened or vetting gut for anyone, the agencies do their jobs thoroughly determine who can enter or not. In fact, some die during those waiting period. 3. If you are scared by a Muslim refugee coming to blow up America, know this 'no Muslim refugee has launched an act of terrorism on American soil". None ever witnessed, reported or arrested for being a terrorist. Why? Because our agencies do the right thing preventing them from coming in, a proper cross check of an individual's history, ties and past life activities are highly scrutinized to see if they pose an imminent or future threat. There have been more terrorist attacks from home grown and radicalized Americans ( Muslim or not). America faces a great threat of a 'White Male going on a shooting rampage in schools, churches, theatre'. In the case where a refugee ( Muslim or not) does launch terrorist activity on American soil. You should not be more concerned, does that qualify all refugees as terrorist or bad people coming to do harm to America. If you think it qualifies, I hope we can qualify all White males as violent gun shooters out to attack schools, churches and theatres. There are always bad eggs in every class of the society but the hard fact is the vetting system is 99% safe. The 1% is a risk we can gladly take, we have institutions that protect Americans from potential attacks, who knows maybe among the many attacks the FBI and DHS have stopped ever included one planned by a refugee ( Muslim or not). 4. Do you believe the United States admits more Muslim refugees as our lying President Donald portrays? If you do, you are misinformed. The United States admits just as much Christian refugees as Muslim ones. Also know that Muslim refugees are under threat of existence just as their Christian counterparts from other parts of the world sometimes the Muslim ones are at greater risk in life. In 2016, 37,521 Christian refugees were admitted and 38 ,901 Muslim refugees were admitted in the 2016 fiscal year. 5. The order stops the admission of refugees from Syria indefinitely, and bars entry into the United States from seven predominantly Muslim countries linked to concerns about terrorism. Those countries are Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen. Except Trump's ban doesn't Include Saudi Arabia, Egypt, U.A.E, Qatar and Turkey, some of the said financiers of terrorism with Saudi Arabia having a part in some of the terrorist activities in America. Why were these countries off the list? You may say, there are no refugees here, people leave these countries and apply for refugee status with hopes of running away from the sometimes i humane conditions imposed on them there. The major reason they aren't blacklisted is because our Führer does business with them and avoids putting them on the block. 6. Refugees should not be turned away because they are Muslims or come from places where terrorist come out of. Why? Do you stop milking your cows because one didn't produce milks that day. We shouldn't classify all Muslim refugees as terrorist or evil because of where they come from. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 7:00pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
ValerianSteel: We spend more on entitlements. That is where most of the waste is. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 7:01pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Breaking news: Iran to bar US Citizens from entering country in response to Trump's travel ban. Am gonna say, We need the world, the world needs us. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 7:02pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
ValerianSteel:You are spot on. The Nigeria Pom Pom carrying cheerleaders of the Bigoted One won't feel it when the results of Trump bigoted views are raining all over America . I don't want my beloved America to turn to a pariah nation in the comity of nations. People like you and I and our other friends will keep shouting from the mountain top because our lifes and family are in jeopardy . The ones egging him up will be safely ensconced in their various outlets in Nigeria but our case is different . 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 7:13pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Missy89:This is the problem I have with conservatives. You believe the left spends more on entitlements, time and again we've had the argument on welfare, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and I'll state again I believe in them and support them but do I think we can have a review without harming the lives of Americans who depend on it, Yes, if properly looked into, cuts can be made and jobs can be created. That stated, we spend an awful lot on the military that goes to waste or enriches pockets of the big men in the MIC. I don't think you disagree with this internally, you just won't admit it. The same way you want to see something done about entitlements is the same way I support doing something about our 'yuge' Defense spendings. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 7:22pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Lucasbalo:It's one thing to be ignorant of something, it's another to be hypocritical of it. This is what I've seen with his supporters. A new PPP poll shows 42% of his supporters are okay with him having a private email server. It's been reported that his senior staff are still using the same RNC email server that Karl Rove hosted where the Cheney and Bush White House lost 22 million emails. It's been reported that he's still using his insecure android phone. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 7:28pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
I have a feeling that Trump is likely going to hit the H1B visa next... Google CEO's announnced that 187 of its employees have already been affected by the ban on muslim from 7 countries. It affected staffs with green card, students visas and work visas. Iranians are usually found in engineering firms and studying advanced STEM degrees. Those guys are skilled immigrants when it comes to engineering. I wonder if trump would help find companies find replacements. Since he wants made in America..he could forward the names of his "made in china red cap" wearing dumb supporters to engineering firms for employment... Meanwhile...inside one of the manny tunnels....... 3 Likes
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