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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:14pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
More Ivorian special forces
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:15pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Ivorian Forces Speciale, Shield Africa 2017 The Ivorian kit is so beautiful. The Ivorian kit looks so dope. I'm so impressed. 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:24pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Henry240:considering the size of our economy,this something you seriously need to consider hosting |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:25pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Chikl, could you post photos of Algerian commandos fully kitted out. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:28pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
africaken254: In Nigeria, we hosted a similar type exhibition in 2016. It wasn't publicized, but I managed to get photos which I shared in this thread 2 days ago. The French also exhibited their Titus in Abuja during the show, as well as multiple Nigerian, South African, European and maybe Asian companies, although I've not seen any photos to show that suggest Asians participated. We also hosted Nigerian Air Force Air Expo twice before this Boko-Haram nonsense and the 2014 show was subsequently cancelled. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:33pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
africaken254: As well as the 2 shows I mentioned, we also host 3 more. Armoured vehicles West Africa, OPV Africa and the Nigerian Security and Defence Expo. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:37pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
kenya army WZ-551 APC's
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:54pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
To the South Africans, who is Terry Crawford-Browne , he is making alot of sense in the comments section of a Defenceweb topic highlighting the poor sales of SA defence equipment. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:59pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
GreenandGold: What particular topic did you see his post? I don't see his comment in the link you shared. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 3:00pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Henry240: Terry C-B is a ideologue, his brain is wired the same way as a religious fundamentalist. He is irrational and unreasonable. He is a pacifist and (worst of all) a LEFTIST that believes that South Africa should disband the SANDF completely and exist like the collection of failed states in South America that do not have militaries (Haiti, Guatemala etc) He is the guy behind the Arms deal enquiry and the various attempts to uncover corruption. While I respect and applaud his efforts, his inability to leave the issue alone after the Constitutional Court (very politely) told him to Fvck off illistrates my first point - he is irrational, a fanatic. His assessment as to our Military Industrial Complex is ridiculously biased and based on ideology as apposed to fact. Mattys Jacobs has provided a more balanced and reasonable explanation that revolves around market forces and structural problems within our militiary-industrial complex. Basically, - we dont have any banks that will finance our sales to other countries hence we can only sell big orders to people who "buy cash", which is a tiny market. - This problem is magnified by an underfunded SANDF who do not give out the consistent orders on top-shelf Denel products, which means that Denel cant establish Economies of Scale to bring down unit costs and expand our market - nor can it fund the R& ![]() - meaning that Denel has to increasingly specialise in "mid-shelf" products - which means that they now compete in a very small and highly competitive market - which further hurts profits. But lets be honest here, South Africa remains a Top 20 arms exporter and Denel is still in the top 100 biggest defense firms in the world, I would hardly call sales "poor". Its just that we arent reaching full potential. 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
chkil: What's the amount of troops Egypt can deploy in the Sainai? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:37pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Senegalese UN soldiers in Ivory Coast
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:38pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Nigerian army 2 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by overhypedsteve(m): 4:01pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Patchesagain:wow. You must hate the guy. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by overhypedsteve(m): 4:15pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
jakeporeshenko:this guys are very good example of a standardised Army. And thanks to their peaceful power show in Gambia they will enjoy a lot of UN peace keeping role in the future. I am very much impressed. During the Librarian Debacle the Librarians begged and pleaded for the Senegalese troops to stay back when they wanted to pull out due to the presidential election in Senegal.Most of the Military commentators then, described them as "very professional" they didn't partake in the widespread looting that was going on as at that time even among ECOMOG Troops. Read more at: https://www.hrw.org/reports/1993/liberia/ Specifically paragraph 13 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 4:44pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
overhypedsteve: I am a pragmatist. I have no political beliefs, I subscribe to no ideologies. I only care about what works and what doesn't, usually history and common sense provide all the answers. Thus people like Terry make me sick to my core. They place belief over reality and will bend reality to suit their belief. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:42pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Patchesagain: In as much as he is a pacifist, the comments he put out in his post aren't emotions. He laid down clear facts. Denel was a loss making company for periods of time until they got a bailout from the South-African government. If AMSCOR could go into bankruptcy in the 80s when the Apartheid government was spending almost 5% of GDP on Defence, and so doing subsidizing the SA defence industry, it surely means things aren't going to look great now that funds are scarce. There is also the issue of corruption in the SA defence industry. Patchesagain:Are these no facts, Denel running into bankruptcy, corruption in the SA defence industry, Amscor bankruptcy and the Cameron commission of inquiry? Are you saying all these things are made up? Patchesagain: You have listed some of the issues. South-Africa cannot compete on big ticket items. It's simply not possible. Countries like China have proven to be bullish in the entire defence market, offering state of the art defence systems, which are cost effective. you also have to deal with the other big partners Russia, USA and Europe (where most of the components used in building SA defence equipment come from). There's also Israel, increasingly Indonesia, Brazil, Turkey. What RSA should have done is simply own low level market, and compete for items in the mid-level market. Even here RSA is failing to China, UAE, Israel and Turkey. Even countries like Pakistan, Sudan, Ethiopia and Nigeria are now beginning to bite off from the low level market. Patchesagain: Dude, let's us not throw emotions around. The SA defence industry dates back to World War II, Africaken254 shared a video supporting this. So, 20th position when countries that have a defence industry is so small. 20th position is not great. RSA is only ahead of Azerbaijian and Kazhkstan that's nothing to be proud of. The MRAP market which you used to control is out of your hands, The US, Europe, Turkey, China, Russia and Australia are now producing better MRAP vehicles. Look at Kenya, a country that used to buy South-African MRAPs, suddenly has moved over to Chinese MRAPs. You can't tell me no bank in RSA can fund 25 vehicles, that's not possible. Turkey is selling MRAP vehicles to Africans, even Streit from Canada is selling MRAP vehicles to African countries. One would think that with the draw down in Iraq, RSA companies would begin to look at LAVs, however in this area, you are horrendously failing, Israeli companies have taken over. I mean, look at the Senegalese deployment in Gambia, all the LAVs used are from Israel. The Israelis are selling to Chad, Cameroun, Ethiopia, Zambia, Uganda. The Chinese, Turks and UAE are selling, where are SA companies, simply no where to be found. In the Drones/UAV market, the Israelis and Chinese, increasingly the UAE have taken over. This bus has left, where is RSA? The Paramount airplane, Mwari is coming into a market that is looking increasingly tight. Also, we need to watch out for India, if India comes in, then it would be obvious that the problems of the RSA industry would only grow worse. Denel is a big company, it deserves it's 100th place, but let's not forget that for so many years it was making losses and had to be bailed out by the government. 5 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:33pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Senegalese soldiers 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by BlackBaron: 8:48pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Can we say maybe the Ivory Coast is getting excess defence support from others, i.e France? Though we can largely highlight probably their army's organisation culture too that they are able to instill professionalism from the highest cadre down to the lowest. Relative to equipment, we are considerably larger in number by a scale of 10 and apart from maybe corruption, it explains why they look relatively well kitted. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:46pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Henry240: their is many SF , commandos units army , navy , gendarmary , police , intelligence agency have all SF units , for army they do not show the elite units , their is videos about new recruit promotion outing SF academy doing kuk sool martial art or with only basic AK , you will find easly videos about police gendarms SF units , but for true units that hunt terrorist or called in hostage taking fully kitted , you will not find pics . here is the only video i know from an army commandos unit and it's not the elite one . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P-seKXQZGk |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 9:59pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
rka2:you were correct by bro. but why did the custom official lie. https://www.nairaland.com/3598278/armoured-helicopters-governor-wike-reveals |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 5:58am On Jan 29, 2017 |
Henry240: ARMSCOR did not go "bankrupt" in the 1980's. Denel went "bankrupt" in the 1990's after it was split from ARMSCOR due to a number of reasons. Namely, because they invested billions of Rands into projects that the SANDF then cancelled - examples of these projects: Indigenous fighter jet, Indigenous Frigate, Indigenous Submarine, Indigenous ASM. If you come from a buisness background, I dont think I need to explain why these projects caused liquidity issues within the company in the 1990's. Bending reality to suit beleifs Henry240: Yes they are made up. Henry240: Few South African components are imported from abroad. Your opinion on what we "should have" done is irrelevant. Also, we can and do compete - or did you miss the 300 ingwe missiles sold to Iraq? 700 Ingwe to Algeria? Henry240: So apart from saying exactly what I said, what are you talking about? Denel is making a profit, we average sales of 300+ armored vehicles per year, hundreds of missiles to multiple sources, artillery systems to multiple sources as well as optics, comms etc and sales are stable. Saying that stuff about Azerbajan and Kazhkstan only demonstrates your lack of knowledge about their domestic capabilities. Face it, you like what he says because he is highly critical of RSA and that makes the chip on your shoulder happy 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 7:14am On Jan 29, 2017 |
Henry240: There are 196 countries in the world. That means we are "only ahead" of 174 countries. Not just Azerbaijan and Kazakistan You have demonstrated a prime example of: Bending reality to suit your beliefs. 4 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:23am On Jan 29, 2017 |
Patchesagain: It's okay to disagree, but we would have to leave this discussion at that since you've started throwing accusations again. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 8:43am On Jan 29, 2017 |
Things are getting hot in the Sinai https://www.funker530.com/islamic-state-egypt/ |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:59am On Jan 29, 2017 |
Patchesagain: Where do these terrorists get ATGMs from? How is it so easy for them? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:01am On Jan 29, 2017 |
Nigeria's Counter-insurgency 3 Likes
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:05am On Jan 29, 2017 |
Patchesagain: as before, egyptian army will ask the permit of israel to let them launch a massive operation in sinai , and send in sinai tanks , f16, apach ... , kill hundreds terrorists arrest hundreds others then return to its position and let in sinai only military levels set in the Camp David Accords and demilitarized area . |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:13am On Jan 29, 2017 |
Nigerian navy special forces along with Gambian ceremonial troops and Senegalese personnel await Gambia's new President. 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 9:22am On Jan 29, 2017 |
chkil: Makes sense though. Isreal would get nervous if Egypt deployed large forces to the Sinai. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Patchesagain: 9:24am On Jan 29, 2017 |
Henry240: Saudi/Gulf States ->Syria->Libya/Sinai 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:34am On Jan 29, 2017 |
Patchesagain: yes ,the Egyptian-Israeli peace treaty of 1979, states that Sinai Peninsula is to remain demilitarized , and egyptian army can not send tanks , air force , only small units and police for citizen security , that's why terrorist can move in the area . some egyptian apache air strike in the last operation launched in sinai . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HjTXUzv700 |
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