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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:35pm On Jan 28, 2017
Mickael2:


I am not against it right now, my point is when he comes to training and the coach sees that his level has dropped, he should not leave him out of the team without any hesitation
Don't let us assume,it's left for Rohr to decide who to wear d eagles shirt.If he drops form,then coach should decide,not only him but all other players,for instance Ighalo was dropped to d bench against Algeria due to poor form and I doubt he w make d next squad.

Mikel Obi is a top notch for Eagles that only lose off form or injury w drop him but this is a player that was inactive for 6 months at Chelsea but always show class in d national team.

I remember d issue of Keshi during d last stage of Westerhoff,despite Chidi Nwanu form at Anderlecth,it took injury for Keshi to be dropped to d bench,same thing can be said of Joseph Yobo,it took injury and lose off form for Omeruo to step in.

The big question is this who w take over from Mikel coz if a player was inactive and still commanding regular shirt shows that players in d camp are not equal to d task like d case of Ikeme who was mile ahead of other keepers in camp.Did u know that half fit Ikeme kept against Tazania despite d presence of other keepers in camp.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:48pm On Jan 28, 2017
Mickael2:


Mikel plays the AMF position for us, we have countless variations that can put him out if the system. Iheanacho can still play there, Aluko, Iwobi can come into the middle and free up the left side for a quicker winger and all that, So I believe we can find adequate replacements
Pls go and re watch our last three matches and closely watch Mikel very well,i can tell u Nacho,Iwobi and Aluko lack d flair for now.Mikel make things easy for our guys,he dictate d game with ease and Rohr knew this or what do u think w make a coach to always preferred him for that position despite not making Chelsea match day squad.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:51pm On Jan 28, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Till the summer yes! I am not a fan of players who runaway from relegation dog fights, it arises questions about their character. Why run just becos the going is tough? To me beating the drop is the same as winning the cup. Infact more is at stake. If he asked to move before the season then no wahala but this is not how u do things.

How do they do things? Eupen officials agreed they will let him go if the right offer came. They got the offer and note, the are ready to let him go but to a club that is not his choice.

The right thing here is to let Onyekuru go to Celtic. No other way.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:52pm On Jan 28, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


U just said he didn't have better offers so how have u always made ur point clear? Isaac Success handled his situation like a man, he used the offers to get an improved contract. Henry should learn from Isaac and Ndidi who racked up enough amount of games to go to the epl. The only reason I wanted Musa in Celtic is cuz he was not playing for his club but Henry is.

You are skipping the question with stories. If Isaac Success got a better option in January, would you advice him to turn it down to stay at Granada?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:53pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


How do they do things? Eupen officials agreed they will let him go if the right offer came. They got the offer and note, the are ready to let him go but to a club that is not his choice.

The right thing here is to let Onyekuru go to Celtic. No other way.
Yes a player have d right to decide his future not club.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 1:21pm On Jan 28, 2017
The news about Henry Onyekuru going awol is one which every football lover should condemn. Its totally un professional and ill adviced. This sort of behaviour doesn't represent Nigeria and what we stand for in good light.
This supposed strike action of his could hurt the chances of other young Nigerian players back home and those trying to climb the ladder in Europe.

Even the club who he's running to would have reservations about signing a machinery who will back off when things aren't going his way. If he can go on strike at just 19,what would happen when you give him a multi million dollar contract?
It would be in his best interest to sort things out with Eupen and return to office as quickly as possible.
Where was Celtic when he was in Qatar?

I have a feeling, Eupen have a gentleman's agreement with Redbull lipzig for a summer transfer. A deal that will allow him dig in and help Eupen survive the drop.
And for what it's worth, Redbull Lipzig is a better club in a decent environment for a young lad like Henry.

Getting to work with a top class manager like Ralph Ragnick who was part of the cast of manager who revolutionized German football (Volker Finke is the other guy) could prove to be the master stroke.

Staying a few months in Belgium to get a right move wouldn't hurt him at all.
I stand down.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 1:28pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


An ordinary cat does turn out good. Ask John Terryble and Darren Fletcher. At the end, promising, quality young talents are better in the hands of top coaches than weak ones. Not overrated in any way.
Why use 'cat'....na exclusive o. you mentioned only two ordinary players who turned extra ordinary. more will convince me.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 1:33pm On Jan 28, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


To me as long as they perform, Mikel, Ikeme and Balogun should be intouchable. They all fit into the leader bracket and we can't win consistently without them. I would add Onazi to that list but i don't want wahala this morning lol.
As to Onazi, I'ld agree if the coach benches Obi. I have this feeling that these two are stealing each other's shine. When one is in spectacular form, the other is average.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:41pm On Jan 28, 2017
goldfish80:
The news about Henry Onyekuru going awol is one which every football lover should condemn. Its totally un professional and ill adviced. This sort of behaviour doesn't represent Nigeria and what we stand for in good light.
This supposed strike action of his could hurt the chances of other young Nigerian players back home and those trying to climb the ladder in Europe.

Even the club who he's running to would have reservations about signing a machinery who will back off when things aren't going his way. If he can go on strike at just 19,what would happen when you give him a multi million dollar contract?
It would be in his best interest to sort things out with Eupen and return to office as quickly as possible.
Where was Celtic when he was in Qatar?

I have a feeling, Eupen have a gentleman's agreement with Redbull lipzig for a summer transfer. A deal that will allow him dig in and help Eupen survive the drop.
And for what it's worth, Redbull Lipzig is a better club in a decent environment for a young lad like Henry.

Getting to work with a top class manager like Ralph Ragnick who was part of the cast of manager who revolutionized German football (Volker Finke is the other guy) could prove to be the master stroke.

Staying a few months in Belgium to get a right move wouldn't hurt him at all.
I stand down.

As for Me, I condemn Eupen for going back on their words to let him go. The young man wants to go and they went back on their words. That is totally unprofessional of Eupen. Coupled with them trying to sideline Onyekuru's agent.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:47pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


How do they do things? Eupen officials agreed they will let him go if the right offer came. They got the offer and note, the are ready to let him go but to a club that is not his choice.

The right thing here is to let Onyekuru go to Celtic. No other way.

How is Celtic the right offer for Eupen? U don't even know how much Celtic offered.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:48pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


You are skipping the question with stories. If Isaac Success got a better option in January, would you advice him to turn it down to stay at Granada?

How? If i am using his story as refrence how could u not know that i would advice he turned it down?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:49pm On Jan 28, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


How is Celtic the right offer for Eupen? U don't even know how much Celtic offered.

How are the other clubs the right offer for Onyekuru? You do not know how much they offered.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:51pm On Jan 28, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


How? If i am using his story as refrence how could u not know that i would advice he turned it down?

So if Isaac Success was your brother and Atletico Madrid came to sign him from Granada, you want me to believe you will tell you brother to stay at Granada despite improved Pay and Champions League opportunity.

Tell me that you will want your brother to stay.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:51pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


As for Me, I condemn Eupen for going back on their words to let him go. The young man wants to go and they went back on their words. That is totally unprofessional of Eupen. Coupled with them trying to sideline Onyekuru's agent.
just like how Lynn sidelined Mikel's agent and forced him to sign for man u.They should allow d boy to choose his preferred club.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:55pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


How are the other clubs the right offer for Onyekuru? You do not know how much they offered.

They didn't accept it so it's obviously not right. They would be foolish to turn down a great deal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:59pm On Jan 28, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


How is Celtic the right offer for Eupen? U don't even know how much Celtic offered.
Pls u need to enlighten me on player transfer coz i thought a player and his agent have d right to negotiate with d right club with good price that meet club demand.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:00pm On Jan 28, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


They didn't accept it so it's obviously not right. They would be foolish to turn down a great deal.

It seems you did not read the fact that a friend of the bus wants to gain from selling Onyekuru. If Onyekuru goes to Celtic, the so called agent friend of the club official will not gain a Bounty.

Onyekuru insists it is a good offer from Celtic. The shady ones went back on their words.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 2:01pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


As for Me, I condemn Eupen for going back on their words to let him go. The young man wants to go and they went back on their words. That is totally unprofessional of Eupen. Coupled with them trying to sideline Onyekuru's agent.
You actually believe Eupen promised to let him go in January transfer window?
And you actually support a player going on strike because he wouldn't get his wish to transfer to another club?
In essence his contract with Eupen is as worthless as a tissue paper?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:01pm On Jan 28, 2017
Kog45:
Pls u need to enlighten me on player transfer coz i thought a player and his agent have d right to negotiate with d right club with good price that meet club demand.

Eupen have a tear rubber agent for Onyekuru and he is doing the negotiation on behalf of Onyekuru despite having no link to Onyekuru.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:01pm On Jan 28, 2017
Kog45:
just like how Lynn sidelined Mikel's agent and forced him to sign for man u.They should allow d boy to choose his preferred club.

Call a spade a spade, some agents suck for the most part. They mostly mislead the players, Musa Mohamed is a prime example. The club has the right to advice their players, there was no gun involved so he wasn't forced to do anything.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:04pm On Jan 28, 2017
goldfish80:

You actually believe Eupen promised to let him go in January transfer window?
And you actually support a player going on strike because he wouldn't get his wish to transfer to another club?
In essence his contract with Eupen is as worthless as a tissue paper?

Eupen are ready to let Onyekuru go. Are you not reading the articles? They want him to go to a club that is not the choice of Onyekuru and his agent.

I wish there was a better solution but the shady Eupen are the unprofessional ones. If all clubs behave this way, Professional football will become a mess.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:05pm On Jan 28, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Call a spade a spade, some agents suck for the most part. They mostly mislead the players, Musa Mohamed is a prime example. The club has the right to advice their players, there was no gun involved so he wasn't forced to do anything.

How can club have right? So you think Real Madrid has the right to sell CR7 to China if they like the price.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:06pm On Jan 28, 2017
goldfish80:

You actually believe Eupen promised to let him go in January transfer window?
And you actually support a player going on strike because he wouldn't get his wish to transfer to another club?
In essence his contract with Eupen is as worthless as a tissue paper?

Bros i see myself as a free thinker but even that one goes to far in my book. And no one sees it strange that the boy is taking advice from Osaze.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:08pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


How can club have right? So you think Real Madrid has the right to sell CR7 to China if they like the price.

What are u talking about? Are u even reading my posts? I said the club has a right to ADVICE the player especially if the agent seems greedy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:10pm On Jan 28, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Bros i see myself as a free thinker but even that one goes to far in my book. And no one sees it strange that the boy is taking advice from Osaze.

I will take advice from my seniors who reach out to help me when I am facing trials. If there are other senior and respected Super Eagles players willing to support the young man, they should reach out to Onyekuru.

Osaze did well and deserves commendation. The young man needs support and will grab the hands that reaches out to him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:11pm On Jan 28, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


What are u talking about? Are u even reading my posts? I said the club has a right to ADVICE the player especially if the agent seems greedy.

They can advice but not give Onyekuru a contract to sideline his agent. That is very unprofessional. Shady.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:15pm On Jan 28, 2017
Well said @bolded.... Just the truth well stated as regards the current super Eagles.

Onazi and Victor Moses are others that could arguably be term "untouchables" too but these three are the "undisputed untouchables" as long as they keep performing smiley

And about not wanting wahala hence you excluded Onazi... I know theGoodJoe and Mickael2 for come for ya head coz of Ndidi's challenge.... Looolll


BascoVanVeli:


To me as long as they perform, Mikel, Ikeme and Balogun should be untouchable. They all fit into the leader bracket and we can't win consistently without them. I would add Onazi to that list but i don't want wahala this morning lol.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:19pm On Jan 28, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
Well said @bolded.... Just the truth well stated as regards the current super Eagles.

Onazi and Victor Moses are others that could arguably be term "untouchables" too but these three are the "undisputed untouchables" as long as they keep performing smiley

And about not wanting wahala hence you excluded Onazi... I know theGoodJoe and Mickael2 for come for ya head coz of Ndidi's challenge.... Looolll



I do not believe in untouchables but best players. We need to field our best, not untouchables.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:19pm On Jan 28, 2017
Don't forget that Sir Basco was the first to point out that the club actually wanted Henry to change his agent and he suggested that is partly the reason for Henry's awol attitude.

Now Basco is saying Germany seems a better destination than Scotland.

Sir TheGoodJoe, Between RB Leipzig in the Bundesliga and Celtic in scotland, where would you have Henry develop further?

TheGoodJoe:


They can advice but not give Onyekuru a contract to sideline his agent. That is very unprofessional. Shady.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 2:22pm On Jan 28, 2017
Kog45:
Pls u need to enlighten me on player transfer coz i thought a player and his agent have d right to negotiate with d right club with good price that meet club demand.

The agent can bring up a transfer to the club just like the clyb can bring to the agent. The price of the transfer is worked out between the clubs and not the agent. After the transfer fee is set the agent can then discuss personal terms with the club u are going to. For Example arsenal's Jenkinson was sold to crystal palace but returned back when his agent could not agree on personal terms with palace. I am going to far, just last year a club in China agreed to pay watford over 37 million pound for Ighalo...............
Just like the club can't sell him anywhere he can't go anywhere either. He can simply wait out his contract which i have read is 18 months.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:23pm On Jan 28, 2017
Pls tell me there are no untouchables in Man City or more precisely in "a pep team".... grin

As long these untouchables keep performing (plus their pedigree overtime), they will always be picked...


TheGoodJoe:


I do not believe in untouchables but best players. We need to field our best, not untouchables.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 2:23pm On Jan 28, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Call a spade a spade, some agents suck for the most part. They mostly mislead the players, Musa Mohamed is a prime example. The club has the right to advice their players, there was no gun involved so he wasn't forced to do anything.
pls d issue of greedy agent doesn't arise,my question is,why are they sidelining d boy"s agent.

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