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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Olami90: 10:25pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
OmaniPadmeHum: Thank you so much. I appreciate |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Olami90: 10:30pm On Jan 22, 2017 |
aamstih: Thanks bro.. I checked dis centre on internet but yet to see much...... I hope they can be trusted? |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by aamstih: 5:18am On Jan 24, 2017 |
Trusted in what context Sir. Olami90: |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Olami90: 8:12am On Jan 24, 2017 |
OmaniPadmeHum: Bro. It seem 2017 calender isn't out yet. I was seeing that of 2016. Also I saw a part of the requirement that level 3 of HSEcant be done with dem without undergoing generalHSE with them first. What do you know about this please? |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Nobody: 8:53am On Jan 24, 2017 |
Olami90: 1. Yes, 2017 calendar is not out. That was why I said if you are not in a hurry, you could wait for it. Doing these courses with NISP/ISPON gives you some benefits. You become a member easily as you already know their way. NISP/ISPON is popular and the bedrock for professional HSE Training in Nigeria. It has huge sentimental value. ISPON is also now backed by law to regulate the HSE Profession (more on Safety though) in NIGERIA. For the Environmental Part, NES (Nigerian Environmental Society) is trying to charter this profession. It is inundated with quacks and very uninformed people and every dummy claims/calls himself "Consultant" and do EIAs. But for Safety, NISP is taking steps to make the professional practice more regulated. 2. You can't go to the University without going through Secondary School. Yes, you need to do either General HSE or Level 2 before you do Level 3. Level 3 is considered as a higher level of competence. To get to this Level, you need to pass through one of the foundation/lower levels. Let me give you my case. I have an MSc. In Safety Engineering from a Grande Ecole in France. However, I needed to do Level 2 before 3. This is even when I was busy during the ISPON classes correcting many of the erroneous impressions e.g. that "Hazards are bad and useless and so must be eliminated" during the ISPON Lecture. I had to inform them that Hazards are not "useless", we need them to get things done. E.g temperature in a process. Heat Exchangers, High Drilling Rigs/Platforms above water etc., But the hazards can be controlled and maintained using technical and managerial means of protection with appropriate levels of reliability. That is why we have mitigation actions to eliminate cause and/or mitigation actions to reduce consequences. It is also based on whether you are working from a Deterministic or Probabilistic School of thought. NISP/ISPON was too rudimentary for me. But I listened,participated, stepped in when I needed to. And I listened attentively in class because I knew I would also learn new things or refresh my memory. Even NEBOSH IGC was very rudimentary for me. It was NEBOSH IDip that came a little close to my level of competence (Higher than Level 8 ). So, if you have the finances, do the General then Level 3. Unfortunately, I don't know the rules of Novelle Center. Whether they also have same rules like ISPON/NISP. But you can call them to find out. Then you can take a pick. Cheers. 4 Likes |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Blanc8(m): 5:29pm On Jan 24, 2017 |
OmaniPadmeHum:novelle has no requirements, just your cash 40k ...you get HSE 1 2 and 3.. Want to ask please, what body did you do your nebosh idip and how long did it take you... The course fee also.. |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Nobody: 5:54pm On Jan 24, 2017 |
Blanc8: It takes about 7 Weeks for NEBOSH IDip. 6 Weeks for classes. 1 week for exams (actually, about 3 days). Once you register, you must complete the courses within 5 years. So it is not a rush rush thing. But why wait till then? Each of Modules A,B,C are quite huge. Materials used to teach were about 600 pages per module. Giving about 1800 pages. It is like doing NEBOSH IGC, but with newer stuff on Risk Assessment using techniques like FMEA, Fault tree analysis, etc. There are 4 units, A,B,C and D. Unit D is more like a Thesis. An 8000 words written assignment on the application of HSE Theory and Practice. Most times focusing on an industry, organization or company. It can be done in class or via distance learning/online. Depending on what suits you. Cost depends on country and period. It won't be the same price with today. Notice the grey hair on my head? Hahahahaha. Cost also varies with country and trainer as well. IDip is not done in Nigeria for now. Well, the last time I checked. E.g Shields in the UK takes 1,450 Pounds nowadays. |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Blanc8(m): 8:35pm On Jan 24, 2017 |
OmaniPadmeHum: Aii boss, thanks for the enlightenment... |
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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by bancroll(m): 9:43am On Jan 26, 2017 |
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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Olami90: 11:23am On Jan 26, 2017 |
OmaniPadmeHum: I really appreciate you sir. I can't thank you enough for your time and detailed contributions. God bless you. I eventually put a call through to Abeokuta branch and a pdf copy of 2017 calender was forwarded to me(it is not just on the website yet). So I think I will just do it with them next month. I hope to get more of your honest ideas later. Thanks once again |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Olami90: 11:36am On Jan 26, 2017 |
Blanc8: How recognised/acceptable is NOVELLE centre certification on HSE ? Cc: omanipadmehum - ISPON generalhse and level 3 is totalling 70,000naira Cc: aamstih |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by ndamson2: 2:02pm On Jan 26, 2017 |
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Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Blanc8(m): 9:41pm On Jan 26, 2017 |
Olami90: Individual Opinion - Novelle is wonderful (Uk standard) But if you want to practice safety in Nigeria *i think* you need ispon's certification... The situation where ispon's HSE training aren't needed are where Nebosh IGC or any other internationally recognised cert is required So, thats that |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by wroskian(m): 8:49am On Jan 27, 2017 |
OmaniPadmeHum:I sent you a mail sir, kindly check & reply. |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Olami90: 11:57am On Jan 27, 2017 |
Blanc8: Hmmm....#understood. thanks so much bro. |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Nobody: 6:05pm On Jan 27, 2017 |
Olami90: Novelle as we know it is endorsed/recognized by ISPON etc. as training providers. The question we should ask ourselves is: WILL ISPON REGISTER US AS MEMBERS WITHOUT PARTICIPATING IN THEIR LEVELS 1,2, & 3 HSE COURSES? If ISPON can register members as HSE Professionals without attending their specific ISPON training centers for HSE Levels 1,2 and 3, then it is best to patronize Novelle and then apply to ISPON for membership afterwards. Best is to call ISPON and clarify on the requirements for becoming a member of ISPON/NISP. At a time I believe that one had to do the following to become a member 1. Level 3 HSE certificate - IS THIS FROM ISPON OR ANY ACCREDITTED TRAINING SCHOOL? 2. Apply for membership 3. Write membership exams 4. Write and defend a project on HSE, most times on Safety. The defense is in form of an interview. Based on score it is determined if on is qualified. What we need to know is if ISPON WILL ACCEPT LEVEL 3 HSE certification from any training school or must it be theirs. |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Olami90: 10:01pm On Jan 27, 2017 |
OmaniPadmeHum: Thanks bro. I will try to make enquiry on this from one of their branches next week. God bless you |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Blanc8(m): 10:55pm On Jan 27, 2017 |
Olami90: ISPON wouldn't accept... Basic requirement for membership is that you must have completed GHSE and HSE level 3 with them... This cert are to be photocopied and attached to the membership form (29,000) |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by aamstih: 5:42am On Jan 28, 2017 |
True. To be a practicing safety professional in Nigeria, you need to be a member of ISPON (according to the ISPON Act) and to be a member of ISPON, you must present your GHSE and Level 3 (ISPON certs) for documentation. Blanc8: |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Olami90: 10:44am On Jan 28, 2017 |
Blanc8: Smiles......#Finished. Thanks much for the clarification Cc: Omanipadmehum |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Fraih(f): 12:19pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Olami90:Hi! I intend to register for the Abeokuta branch also very soon. Can you please forward the calender to me so I could plan with it. Bukkiefraih@gmail.com is my Address. Thanks. |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Nobody: 4:21pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
Olami90: There we have it. They are protecting/securing/sustaining their own training program. |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by arizona20: 11:18pm On Jan 28, 2017 |
@Olami90,please assist me with the 2017 calender pleaseeeeeeee. nanamm4real@yahoo.com. Remain Blessed. |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Olami90: 10:04am On Jan 29, 2017 |
Fraih: It has been sent miss fraih..... |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Olami90: 10:11am On Jan 29, 2017 |
arizona20: No challenge bro. I hope you are aware it is that of Ogun branch I'm having? I wouldn't know d location you intend to run it as every of their branches will have different structured calender for the year. |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Wizywiz(m): 3:42pm On Jan 29, 2017 |
Pls how much will it take to undergo.. HSE. Level 1-3 from ispon |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Blanc8(m): 4:07pm On Jan 29, 2017 |
Wizywiz: Sincerely bro, if you went two pages back on the thread you'd get answer to your Question.. Want to give it a trail? |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by arizona20: 4:45pm On Jan 29, 2017 |
@Olami90,am in lagos.Want to register n attend the classes in lagos. |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by Olami90: 5:11pm On Jan 29, 2017 |
arizona20: Apart from national secretariat that is in Lagos, state secretariat is at somewhere in ikeja with mobile no 08060314610. Talk to them to get their 2017 calender. You can also check www.ispon.org.ng |
Re: Any HSE Professionals In The House? by arizona20: 7:28pm On Jan 29, 2017 |
Ok thanks |
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