my question is very simple sir, i asked you to show me where Jesus says I am God worship me, very simple question i want your answer in plain english.

Jacksonville:


Jesus is the word of God that manifested in Flesh. He came to show us the way to live a life that pleases God, the father. The bible says in John1:1 The Word had existed in the beginning and the word was with God, and that same WORD was God... Jesus is Lord and he came and dwelled with mankind till the point that he humbled himself to death . He came as a man but with the spirit and Word of God. He cannot boast of himself as God, but only through the revelation of the spirit a man can know that He was God in flesh.

Matthew 16: 15-18

15.He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

[16] And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

[17] And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Peter: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

[18] And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Isaiah9vs6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.



Jesus is Lord. Shalom..

sonmvayina:


the old testament has got nothing to do with the new testament, they are basically two contradicting ideologies and belief systems..the Jews that wrote the old testament dont call it that name, it is called the Tanakha..and to them it contains their belief. it was the Romans(christian) that came centuries later when they conquered the ancient world and stole it Jewish writings during the war of 70AD. they called their own ''the new testimonies' and added it to the Jewish writings to give it some backings..
according to the Jews, God is responsible for both good and evil, the devil only does what God has approved for him to do..Isaiah 45 :7, Lamentation 3:38.. the messiah the Jews are waiting for is a mortal man that will liberate them from their enemies around them. they do not have the idea of God mating with women, that is a Greek and Roman ideology..where you have Zeus and Poseidon mating with mortal beings..i guess you have watched the clash of the titans...

Thank you. I think we are getting somewhere. So christianity as we come to believe and practice is a 'creation' of the Romans now sold to us Africans. The contradiction beomes clear now. But how where dis guys so clever as to be to able to mix the whole thing i.e. their ideologies to construe such a believer plot. E.g. I learnt that the word 'Jesus' in spanish is 'Iezeus' meaning 'Hail Zeus'.

In the first place, wetin Jesus do you wey make you no wan believe in am? Him chop your egg?

jchioma:
Dear Brethren, in Exodus 4:22 God Himself said, "And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn". And in John 3:16, a mere man by the name of John said: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life". Who are we to believe?. I love God and want to serve Him according to His way, and not by the concoctions of men. I want to believe God ONLY, but will I go to hell for not believing in Jesus as I doubt his story? Bible scholars should please me out. Thank you.

To tell you the honest truth, it is not possible to go to heaven, this are my reasons:

1) in the olden days before the coming of Jesus as flesh, the Israelites (BELIEVED ON GOD ALONE) often offers the sacrifice of atonement for the remission of their sins. In that process, they would bring a ram, lay hands on it to transfer their sins on it and then slaughter it to God to atone for their sins. Thus, for sins to be forgiven, there must be blood shed. Jesus Christ came to the word as that lamb, took all our sins on himself and was slaughtered. Whether you believe the story of Jesus or not, I am not Here to convince you but believing that he was the lamb and has died for ur sins will benefit u more than harm. If you don't believe he died for u, then brother go and buy enough rams and slaughter them for your own god, because God said be does not delight in the blood of those rams and so I don't think he will accept your sacrifice. So a big NO, you won't be going to heaven but maybe u can try slaughtering rams or easily believe in the already slaughtered ram. THERE MUST BE A BLOOD SACRIFACE TO ATONE SINS.

2) not believing in Jesus is a sin already, why?,because you have ignores the word of God and in other words might be blaspheming against God, a sin that can never be forgiven. For it is written in the bible that the will of God is that u shall believe in his son Jesus. If u don't believed Jesus, u must atleast the prophets of old like Isaiah etc read them and see what they said about Jesus and how he will save the world then u will know whether u r doing the will of that God u chose to believe in. If you believe in God, u must believe in the one he sent and if u don't believe in the one he sent you simply don't believe God even,, so my brother you are on ur own don't decieve itself

More reasons coming o

3) there is huge difference between heaven and the kingdom of heaven so figure out the one you want to be going to. But from my point of view, you might not be going to either. After all, heaven and earth will pass, but the kingdom of heaven(God) ruled by Jesus will be an everlasting kingdom. Since u don't believe in him, it is evjdent that they is no hope for you into the everlasting kingdom where Jesus is the ruler. You might not understand since you don't BELIEVE THE JESUS STORY. So maybe there might be hope for u in heaven then but that hope is very minimal because you are disobeying the word and the will of God who sits in heaven by not believing in Jesus... Ouch! I just pointed out, no hope for u even in heaven.

4) Jesus revealed he is the only way to the father (who is in heaven) so how do you plan to sneak into heaven if u don't enter through the gate. Please if u v found another way in, reveal it to other theives who might be interested in sneaking in and not going through the gate.

Lastly, what harm has Jesus done to you that you don't believe him? You believe what the scriptures said bout God bout not bout Jesus? Why? He only came to save you by fulfilling all the laws. You don't even believe in the revelations? I will give u a way out, why not try asking Jesus to reveal himself to you. I can help or guide you please. If u make this decision now not to believe in him, you might be losing your soul forever. Lemme help you, contact me or join our Whatsapp group to learn more about Jesus and how he can help you. I can guide u in prayers so he can reveal himself to you hopefully not the way he did to Saul (Paul) Jesus is so sweet, believe me you will like him if you get to know him. He is the best thing that has ever happened to me. God help us all in Jesus name.

To all Christians in the house, please ensure you are baptised. It is very important! Join my teaching to see the signifance of baptism and if the one you partook is accepted by God. Thank you.

I still have more points to prove that Jesus can save you and make it easier for you. Please join my conversations or contact me with questions

sonmvayina:
The Jews recognize the existence of other Gods, but choose to worship one of the lots, reason being that this particular God chose them as Israel was his Heritage, and he calls Israel his first born son(Deuteronomy 32:7)he punishes them when they misbehave and blesses them when they are loyal, the Jesus story is complete bull sheet..

You're the complete bulllshite here!

Jesus was mentioned multiple times in the old testament, even right after the fall of man in Genesis 3:15 which says “The woman's seed will crush the head of the serpent..." and Isaiah 7:14 says "Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.” Isaiah 9:6 prophesied "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”

And in the New testament Christ was confirmed to be the son of God after his baptism when the heaven opened up and a voice spoke "this is my beloved son whom I'm well pleased" - Matt 3:17.

You and the rest can continue saying bullshite but as for the true believers, we know whom we serve.

AJCs:
OP may perhaps b an atheist that jxt wanted to cread a thread this morning, but u can't blame him for this.
However, u r advised to go and pray to that same God to tell u if Jesus truly is to b accepted as Lord and personal saviour and always worshipped. Answer would expressly come provided u are totally ready to serve in honesty. Without that, answer will never come.

I have a friend called AJC, but his real name is Alu james. Are u the one

jchioma:


Thank you. I think we are getting somewhere. So christianity as we come to believe and practice is a 'creation' of the Romans now sold to us Africans. The contradiction beomes clear now. But how where dis guys so clever as to be to able to mix the whole thing i.e. their ideologies to construe such a believer plot. E.g. I learnt that the word 'Jesus' in spanish is 'Iezeus' meaning 'Hail Zeus'.

You heard, I have not heard. But I head that God is a gold digger only seeking gold on earth and not even our souls. I have heard that God is not real, I have heard so many things on the internet but how do you verify the truth? God is an annukai in a planet whatever? Lol. How do you know the truth then, but I will tell u how to detect lies.

1) truth are viral lies are hidden . you heard that but I have not. If it was true someone who have been bold enof in churches to preach that.
2) truth lasts but lies fades easily.

While researching something on the internet, I saw a website asking us to fear demons in the second heaven that they are too strong for us. Its funny, fear them? A religious website? Quoting scriptures? Its a clear sign that there will be many antichrists.

So sister, don't believe everything u hear or read or the world will be too complicated for u. The truth is that there is a truth and a path. And until you find it, your mind will always be wondering in darkness and confusion. One thing u must know is that not every one believes in God, many on earth are not even humans like us so don't be deceived. Only find truth in God, ask God to open up ur heart to the truth. When I study the word of God I almost avoid the internet cause you will see contrary and confusing things set by Satan. Rather I stay for days begging and asking God to show me the way and show me things unsearchable. I pray for wisdom to find answers in the scriptures and knowledge to understand the scripture. My advise, if you want to find the truth and the path, don't ask the internet ask God himself. The internet can be written by anyone after all Satan quotes Bible. But God siad' ask me things that are unsearchable to men' Whatsapp me don't call let's have a chat, I think I have answers to most of your questions... Please let me help u 08137139663

There is no way you can know God without knowing Jesus.

Jesus is the word of God.

asuustrike2009:

Jesus said I am the way the truth and life.no one come to the father except through me. If you don't believe in Jesus, you're own your own.Don't let anyone deceive into telling you that there's another way but in any case ,you have the choice to chosen whether to believe in Jesus or not.

So if the poster believes in GOD, prays to him everyday, does good to his fellow man, lives a righteous life without sin, he will go to HELL for not GOING through JESUS?
You are telling me that GOD, that we all know is merciful, will PUNISH someone for believing in him?

jchioma:
Dear Brethren, in Exodus 4:22 God Himself said, "And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn". And in John 3:16, a mere man by the name of John said: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life". Who are we to believe?. I love God and want to serve Him according to His way, and not by the concoctions of men. I want to believe God ONLY, but will I go to hell for not believing in Jesus as I doubt his story? Bible scholars should please me out. Thank you.

bro pls send me ur number let's chat on WhatsApp so I can enlighten u of the mystery of Jesus, the word of God can only be revealed to u by the Spirit of God.. Ur confusion will end wen I talk to u..

EbolaParasite:


So if the poster believes in GOD, prays to him everyday, does good to his fellow man, lives a righteous life without sin, he will go to HELL for not GOING through JESUS?
You are telling me that GOD, that we all know is merciful, will PUNISH someone for believing in him?

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

anataala:
my question is very simple sir, i asked you to show me where Jesus says I am God worship me, very simple question i want your answer in plain english.

Don't you know by his name, every knees must bow and every tongues must proclaim him that he's the Lord because he's been lifted up above the hosts of heaven to sit at the right hand of the father? Even the hosts and angels in heaven worship him, so who are you not to?

Rev 5:12 says In a loud voice they said: “Worthy is the Lamb who was slain, to receive power and riches and wisdom and strength and honour and glory and blessing!” 13 And I heard every creature in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and in the sea, and all that is in them, saying: “To Him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, be praise and honour and glory and power forever and ever.” 14 And the four living creatures said, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshipped.…

EbolaParasite:


So if the poster believes in GOD, prays to him everyday, does good to his fellow man, lives a righteous life without sin, he will go to HELL for not GOING through JESUS?
You are telling me that GOD, that we all know is merciful, will PUNISH someone for believing in him?

What is a righteous life and life without sin? Do you know ignoring the word of God is sin? How can you say you've lived a righteous life and not sinned? Who on earth can abide by the 613 laws from God. If you can do that and prove you can then and only then will I believe you are leading a righteous life. But if you can't then bear it in mind that u v disobeyed the laws of God and can never say u lived a life without sin. Praying to God, helping the poor etc as you mentioned does not meaning righteous. So show me the pastor that is righteous before God but not by Jesus.

Psalm 23 ' he leads me in the path of righteousness for his name sake' you can only be righteous through Jesus for his own name sake (when he is your shephard) by obeying a simple will of God or you can be righteous by obeying the 613 laws of God and constantly atone for your mistakes by offering rams, so then can you show me a righteous man without Jesus?
Or can you actually teach me what righteousness really means if you think am mistaken.

My friend, A life without jesus has no assurance of heaven, john 14;6-11, it says " jesus saith unto him, i am the way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the father, but by me".

KOMZYLEE:

But Jesus never said his the only way

"No one comes to the Father except by me"
What does this statement means to you?

hopefulLandlord:


I'm curious though

why didn't you add Muhammad?

Is it dat u know how to write but u dnt knw how to read or wat is d problem wit u.

mostelected:


To tell you the honest truth, it is not possible to go to heaven, this are my reasons:

1) in the olden days before the coming of Jesus as flesh, the Israelites (BELIEVED ON GOD ALONE) often offers the sacrifice of atonement for the remission of their sins. In that process, they would bring a ram, lay hands on it to transfer their sins on it and then slaughter it to God to atone for their sins. Thus, for sins to be forgiven, there must be blood shed. Jesus Christ came to the word as that lamb, took all our sins on himself and was slaughtered. Whether you believe the story of Jesus or not, I am not Here to convince you but believing that he was the lamb and has died for ur sins will benefit u more than harm. If you don't believe he died for u, then brother go and buy enough rams and slaughter them for your own god, because God said be does not delight in the blood of those rams and so I don't think he will accept your sacrifice. So a big NO, you won't be going to heaven but maybe u can try slaughtering rams or easily believe in the already slaughtered ram. THERE MUST BE A BLOOD SACRIFACE TO ATONE SINS.

2) not believing in Jesus is a sin already, why?,because you have ignores the word of God and in other words might be blaspheming against God, a sin that can never be forgiven. For it is written in the bible that the will of God is that u shall believe in his son Jesus. If u don't believed Jesus, u must atleast the prophets of old like Isaiah etc read them and see what they said about Jesus and how he will save the world then u will know whether u r doing the will of that God u chose to believe in. If you believe in God, u must believe in the one he sent

1) By the way, even now, the Israelites do not believe in Jesus. Why? Maybe it's because they know something we don't know.

b. If God does not delight in blood of rams and bulls as you've said, while should He delight in the blood of a man - His only 'begotten' son for that matter?

2) I doubt the history of Jesus does not mean that I don't like the ideals he represents, i.e. His teachings, wisdom, love, etc. however, I think he is a concoction of the Romans to corrupt the true ways of God. His story is patterned after the Roman and Babylonian gods which existed thousands of years before Jesus.

RooRuudRonSaha:
christianityisbad.

LOL

If u can obey God u hv obeyed Jesus

Gods law says Love your neigbor as your self which is d first commandment

Then Christ said therefore there no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus
Jesus came to stop the use of Ram,Bulls,Chicken and all Sought of Sacrifises to with the blood of animals
For instant in those days when as human we sinned people will lined up and start telling d high priest their sins for days
The preist will not eat or drink people cannot even go else where unless they r cleared of their sins!

But christ came once for all to Die for our sins and he said it is finished

We have to right for us to meet God again since man fell from Adam and eve
Thats y he brought is only beggoten son for us to be saved!

If u call God he will access you if u hv accepted his Son as your lord and personal saviour and if not no way!
God already handed everything into Christ hands.

EbolaParasite:


So if the poster believes in GOD, prays to him everyday, does good to his fellow man, lives a righteous life without sin, he will go to HELL for not GOING through JESUS?
You are telling me that GOD, that we all know is merciful, will PUNISH someone for believing in him?

If he doesn't believe in Jesus his good wouldn't be counted. Don't let anyone deceive you but the choice is his either to believe in Jesus the Messiah sent to save mankind who left his throne to die for humanity. Suffered on the cross and die then went to hell and took the key of life and death from Lucifer and he resurrected on the third day.That same Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life.No one comes to the father (God) except through him. If he doesn't believe in Jesus then he can't have access to the father. God looks at the blood of his son Jesus to show mercy to humanity. Jesus is the meditator for mankind and so if he doesn't believe in him no one can interceded on his behalf. Living a righteous life is wasted if Jesus isn't involved and would led to eternal condemnation. But the choice is left with man to decide if he must follow Christ or not.

sapele914:
Blind Man,not everyone will see the light there is valid room for an arguement you can't always look at life and the world in general from your myopic point of view. There were established religions way before Abraham founded judaism of which christianity is a sect,no one is doubting there is a superior force most religions worship (Jehovah,Allah)in Nigeria and the question is that superior force Jesus Christ or there is another oga at the top?in the transfiguration Paul I believe saw Jesus sitted at the right side of Jehovah with Abraham and Moses looking on.

What have you now said?

jchioma:


1) By the way, even now, the Israelites do not believe in Jesus. Why? Maybe it's because they know something we don't know.

b. If God does not delight in blood of rams and bulls as you've said, while should He delight in the blood of a man - His only 'begotten' son for that matter?

2) I doubt the history of Jesus does not mean that I don't like the ideals he represents, i.e. His teachings, wisdom, love, etc. however, I think he is a concoction of the Romans to corrupt the true ways of God. His story is patterned after the Roman and Babylonian gods which existed thousands of years before Jesus.

As I also said, you v to determine where you actually want to go. The Israelites(some) does not believe Jesus does not mean they will go to heaven... Remember the bible qualifying them as those a banquet was prepared for but they did not come, so the rich man asked his servants to invite beggars and commoners in. Your fate must not be like theirs. Jesus said a prophet is not recognized in his homeland. Let's assume they know something else, what do you think it is that has not spread to the world to now? Was he a son of a criminal or wait, was he actually crucified for being a thief? The truth lies in your bible if you are a Christian. I will throw a parable and a question to u, if you see your neighbor all of a sudden performing miracles, will you instantly believe him and why?
Isaiah said that they will have eyes but will not see and ears but they will not understand. I put it to you that they know nothing else. They actually believe that Abraham is their father, so they don't need Jesus to be saved cos the kingdom of God through the lineage of David is for them the Israelites, I am already God's why do I need Jesus. But you and I are neither Israelites but gentiles, so we need him more than you think. And them the Israelites needs him more than they know.

2) I never said God delighted in the killing of Jesus or that he enjoyed seeing the blood but it was a sacrifice a painful sacrifice he had to offer because of his love for us.

3) Do you serve God or the roman gods? If you do serve God why not pray for insight. And don't say they existed before Jesus because whether you belief it or not, the world was created through Jesus. The stories might alike to confuse many even the elect but let them who have ears hear. Read the books of the prophets of old, even Enoch wrote about Jesus before he ascended to heaven. Read the book of revealations and then you will understand if jesus was patterned after the roman gods or if the roman gods were pattened after Jesus.

All knowledge comes from God, again avoid the internet and focus on the bible and your own revelations and the teachjng s of ur pastor... You don't know the spirit teaching you on the internet.

If Jesus was a mere confusion against the will of God, then God wouldn't have led me to him nor would I have known him . just try and know him first then you will know the truth. Please, trust me on this, Jesus is not what u think or read from the internet. There is more u need to know and God Almighty will lead you dear Amen

distinction99:
There is what is called the Holy trinity; God the Father, the Son(Jesus) and the Holy spirit.
My dear friend you have to believe in these but nevertheless, God is the most high

The origin of that doctrine is pagan Egypt. Where Isis was replaced with Jesus. Check Egyptian Black book of the dead for the origin of some of the verses you quote verbatim. Why do you think some people are disinterested in religion? They know the truth most of humanity are scared of researching.

Yes and Jesus also say He is the way the truth and the life

dpete1:
JESUS: no one

goes to the father except through me[john 14:6] he is the only gateway to heaven.Believe in him and be saved.JESUS is coming soon.God bless!!

amahthelma:
what re u insinuating cos I don't seem to get......are you trying to make us understand dat two heavens re existing.......Gosh!!!! OP pls don't b misled by d words of d ignorant#may God help and save us all#

Who is the ignorant one here? you who don't know the Criteria that gives you access to allah paradise and Yahweh's heaven?

In Allah heaven, when your good deeds outweighs your wrong deeds, you enter his Paradise.

But in Yahweh's heaven, it's not dependant on your good deeds but in a believe on the finished work of Christ on the Cross.

In Allah's heaven, there virgins to service men both straight men and homosexuals.

But, in Yahweh's heaven, there shall be no marriage, no sex.

Can you now see the ignorant one?

jchioma:
Dear Brethren, in Exodus 4:22 God Himself said, "And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn". And in John 3:16, a mere man by the name of John said: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life". Who are we to believe?. I love God and want to serve Him according to His way, and not by the concoctions of men. I want to believe God ONLY, but will I go to hell for not believing in Jesus as I doubt his story? Bible scholars should please me out. Thank you.

let m[b][/b]e ask you these questions to know if you truely understand what you are saying
1 how is Israel the firstborn of God since God does not give birth to Jacob?

2 did bible or God ever called Jesus firstborn?

3 what did God or bible called him (Jesus)?

if you answer question 3 perfectly,then Why did God addressed him as such?

Sorry mate, "NO I COMES TO THE FATHER(GOD) EXCEPT THOUGH HIM (JESUS)".

pinkyruledworld:
So u think Muslims dont believe in Jesus? u r wrong bro


FYI Yahweh and Allah means God in different languages, I know u know this but u just acting like u don't know and if u never knew an sorry for saying u know.

u have the right to bliv wat u bliv in.


He may not have the right to explain but I have actually heard a couple if people said JESUS IS GOD, what do u have to say about that?



FYI Muslims actually believe Jesus(Isah) pbuh is a messenger of God....NEXT!!!

You love Jesus? Declare that Jesus is Lord.

Vianaija:


That's brilliant of you sir, don't know Whether to say I love you... what a great sense of humor, don't have much to say, you're jux d best..

You are welcome dear.

Blackfire:




Hrhehehe. The last statement got me laughing.

Lol

Without The Lord Jesus Christ - God the Son/The Word (1 John 5:7) - there is nothing, and we can do nothing.

"Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." - Acts 4:12

"He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.” - John 3:36

Also see John 14:1-3

Peace & blessings!