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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:41pm On Jan 30, 2017
Ethiopia WZ-551 APC in somalia

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 2:45pm On Jan 30, 2017
And the intelligent buffoon keep masturbating all about like a dog .most one agree with you .

most of your reply were false,so deal with it.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jan 30, 2017
Nigerian CDS visits and commissions projects at the Defence Industry Corporation of Nigeria (DICON) in Kaduna.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 3:17pm On Jan 30, 2017
Henry240:


On ARMSCOR

The poster says "Armscor bankrupted SA in the 1980s".... But you somewhat bended the statement to suit your narrative.

Armscor was healthy rich during those times with billions to spend on secret projects like the Rooivalk, Orxy, intercontinental missile, nuclear warheads and Project Cava.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:23pm On Jan 30, 2017
GreenandGold:


The poster says "Armscor bankrupted SA in the 1980s".... But you somewhat bended the statement to suit your narrative.

Armscor was healthy rich during those times with billions to spend on secret projects like the Rooivalk, Orxy, intercontinental missile, nuclear warheads and Project Cava.


The company did not go bankrupt, it rather bankrupted the nation of South Africa. Yes, so, so much better. Wise guy. cool



Armscor bankrupted SA and the Cameron commission of inquiry found it to be incredibly corrupt and incredibly incompetent.

Are you happy now?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by solbil: 4:00pm On Jan 30, 2017
Seems there is a lady in here today.

Hello, miss, how did you get interested in defsec? Rare for a civilian lady, i suppose you are.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:06pm On Jan 30, 2017
solbil:
Seems there is a lady in here today.

Hello, miss, how did you get interested in defsec? Rare for a civilian lady, i suppose you are.

ur late bro

that bird flew the coop some hours ago grin grin grin grin

consider it as a rare occurrence like that of a asteroid hitting the earth grin grin grin grin

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 4:19pm On Jan 30, 2017
Henry240:


The company did not go bankrupt, it rather bankrupted the nation of South Africa. Yes, so, so much better. Wise guy. cool



Armscor bankrupted SA and the Cameron commission of inquiry found it to be incredibly corrupt and incredibly incompetent.

Are you happy now?

What does happiness have anything to do with this? You made a statement from thin air, you tried to bend a comment as your source which turned out to be false.

This simply proves that most your posts are bogus as the person you're trying to disqualify... End of story

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:27pm On Jan 30, 2017
Henry240:
Nigerian CDS visits and commissions projects at the Defence Industry Corporation of Nigeria (DICON) in Kaduna.

Ah, my walking stick quota for the week.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by solbil: 4:33pm On Jan 30, 2017
now that Jammeh is gone, what do you think is in store for the other long serving leaders of Africa? Will the AU now have the gut to do the same in say, Zimbabwe, Angola, Rwanda, and Uganda?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by onumaegbuikenna: 5:02pm On Jan 30, 2017
Please who can help me answer this question?

Why did the Nigerian armed forces abandon the British style dress uniforms in favour of ones of their own design. Countries like kenya, Ghana, South Africa never abandoned the design
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 5:41pm On Jan 30, 2017
nemesis2u:


ur late bro

that bird flew the coop some hours ago grin grin grin grin

consider it as a rare occurrence like that of a asteroid hitting the earth grin grin grin grin
grin grin grin grin.
LATE ARRIVAL

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 5:44pm On Jan 30, 2017
Henry240:
Nigerian CDS visits and commissions projects at the Defence Industry Corporation of Nigeria (DICON) in Kaduna.
Any idea on what was commissioned, anyone who at the event or has someone who was there , please let us know.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Obostone: 6:02pm On Jan 30, 2017
onumaegbuikenna:
Please who can help me answer this question?

Why did the Nigerian armed forces abandon the British style dress uniforms in favour of ones of their own design. Countries like kenya, Ghana, South Africa never abandoned the design

What British design are u talking about. Como pattern or how it is sowed. Kenya still use the British style pattern but it is a little different. Saying something like that hit a nerve but it is also good, it calls for self assessment.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:10pm On Jan 30, 2017
Obostone:


What British design are u talking about. Como pattern or how it is sowed. Kenya still use the British style pattern but it is a little different. Saying something like that hit a nerve but it is also good, it calls for self assessment.

He said dress uniforms.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:20pm On Jan 30, 2017
LTGEN:

Any idea on what was commissioned, anyone who at the event or has someone who was there , please let us know.

Yes, nothing interesting.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:37pm On Jan 30, 2017
frumentius:


He said dress uniforms.

Frumentius, I was right all along. The ECOWAS intervention in Gambia was illegal.

For days, I asked you and the other proponents who supported the invasion of Gambia to provide the legal proof which backs such an intervention, of course you guys could not and some others resorted to name calling.


Here is the evidence which supports my opinion.


ECOWAS used Article 58 of its revised treaty relating to regional security to justify the intervention, according to Nigerian legal expert Barrister Hassan Liman. Liman said the law stipulates that member states must work to safeguard and consolidate relations to maintain peace, stability and security within the region.

He added that the article does not give ECOWAS the right to use force to oust a leader.

http://www.voanews.com/a/can-ecowas-tactics-in-gambia-serve-as-model/3698488.html?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:50pm On Jan 30, 2017
Tchadian soldiers

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:01pm On Jan 30, 2017
Nigerians in combat.

I can smell the lead and burning metal from here. cool

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:11pm On Jan 30, 2017
KDF

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 7:20pm On Jan 30, 2017
Henry240:


Frumentius, I was right all along. The ECOWAS intervention in Gambia was illegal.

For days, I asked you and the other proponents who supported the invasion of Gambia to provide the legal proof which backs such an intervention, of course you guys could not and some others resorted to name calling.


Here is the evidence which supports my opinion.


ECOWAS used Article 58 of its revised treaty relating to regional security to justify the intervention, according to Nigerian legal expert Barrister Hassan Liman. Liman said the law stipulates that member states must work to safeguard and consolidate relations to maintain peace, stability and security within the region.

He added that the article does not give ECOWAS the right to use force to oust a leader.

http://www.voanews.com/a/can-ecowas-tactics-in-gambia-serve-as-model/3698488.html?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter


But why is everyone from West Africa keep saying "this serves as a model".... One wonders if the same ECOWAS would put boots in Nigeria if maybe Buhari would steal an election.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 7:23pm On Jan 30, 2017
solbil:
now that Jammeh is gone, what do you think is in store for the other long serving leaders of Africa? Will the AU now have the gut to do the same in say, Zimbabwe, Angola, Rwanda, and Uganda?

Who would want to go to M7? Kenya? No ways.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:33pm On Jan 30, 2017
GreenandGold:



But why is everyone from West Africa keep saying "this serves as a model".... One wonders if the same ECOWAS would put boots in Nigeria if maybe Buhari would steal an election.

Nigerian leaders don't cling onto power. Our Judicial institutions are mature enough to evict leaders from office. Nigeria is not an example to use. The last time we had a dictator was almost 20 years ago. So how's that a possibility in Nigeria?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 7:34pm On Jan 30, 2017
NafeesaAA:
How true is this ?

Chengdu F7 air guard is a fighter interceptor and can't be used for counter insurgency operations against Boko Haram. They can't fly below 8.000 ft operationally.

so we should start bleating?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 7:40pm On Jan 30, 2017
Henry240:


Nigerian leaders don't cling onto power. Our Judicial institutions are mature enough to evict leaders from office. Nigeria is not an example to use. The last time we had a dictator was almost 20 years ago. So how's that a possibility in Nigeria?

Dictatorship occurs anywhere, it's even likely to happen in South Africa with more stable years (and stronger institutions).

So don't dodge the question, would ECOWAS troops enter Nigeria to setup another example in a scenario dictatorship occurred?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 7:44pm On Jan 30, 2017
GreenandGold:



But why is everyone from West Africa keep saying "this serves as a model".... One wonders if the same ECOWAS would put boots in Nigeria if maybe Buhari would steal an election.

ECOWAS or even AU will never put boots in Nigeria. I keep repeating myself that Nigerians have gone through worse, and nothing happened not to talk of now that we are more civilized. Democracy is here to stay despite our diversity.

Court have removed many governors from office without any issues.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 7:57pm On Jan 30, 2017
Henry240:


Frumentius, I was right all along. The ECOWAS intervention in Gambia was illegal.

For days, I asked you and the other proponents who supported the invasion of Gambia to provide the legal proof which backs such an intervention, of course you guys could not and some others resorted to name calling.


Here is the evidence which supports my opinion.


ECOWAS used Article 58 of its revised treaty relating to regional security to justify the intervention, according to Nigerian legal expert Barrister Hassan Liman. Liman said the law stipulates that member states must work to safeguard and consolidate relations to maintain peace, stability and security within the region.

He added that the article does not give ECOWAS the right to use force to oust a leader.

http://www.voanews.com/a/can-ecowas-tactics-in-gambia-serve-as-model/3698488.html?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter

Well this is happening now grin grin grin

http://sunnewsonline.com/nigeria-takes-over-the-gambia-military/
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GreenandGold: 8:00pm On Jan 30, 2017
iblawi:


Well this is happening now grin grin grin

http://sunnewsonline.com/nigeria-takes-over-the-gambia-military/

Nigerian soldiers are about to get plenty of blow-jobs from the Gambian troops grin

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:27pm On Jan 30, 2017
GreenandGold:


Dictatorship occurs anywhere, it's even likely to happen in South Africa with more stable years (and stronger institutions).

So don't dodge the question, would ECOWAS troops enter Nigeria to setup another example in a scenario dictatorship occurred?

Nigerian institutions would not allow a Jammeh type scenario here. Anyway for scenario sake........

Nigeria is an African leader, where is such an invasion going to even begin from.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others ".

Apart from the Insurgency in Nigeria, Nigerian Security forces are currently deployed in Liberia, Sudan, SLR, Mali, Guinea, Benin Republic, Somalia, Sao-Tome and Principe, and now 1500 troops in Gambia. 9 countries in all.

Those forces would be destroyed in their countries even before they get on the buses that would take them to the airports that would fly them.

There would be enough gunboat diplomacy for any of the countries planning to contribute to the force.

Nigerian ISR would follow their Presidents, while Satellites imagery would keep tabs on troop movement.

Nigerian commandos would be on standby to Kidnap thier Presidents and military chiefs.

It is simply not possible. The countries would be screwed even before they mobilize. The Nigerian military is nearly 3 times the other West-African armies put together.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 8:55pm On Jan 30, 2017
GreenandGold:


Dictatorship occurs anywhere, it's even likely to happen in South Africa with more stable years (and stronger institutions).

So don't dodge the question, would ECOWAS troops enter Nigeria to setup another example in a scenario dictatorship occurred?
You seem obsessed with two ideas and no one is dodging the question
IDEA NO.1. Nigeria as a Country with Buhari clinging to power is absurd, Nigeria as as a democratic country continues to mature and her history has shown anyone who has tried to truncate has been left by the wayside and in short has strengthened it's democracy.President Obasanjo was soundly defeated nationwide when he tried his tenure elongation ( it is enshrined in the constitution) .GEJ lost the election and with an eye on his legacy and knowing what the Nigerian people wanted in an unprecedented acknowledgement CALLED to congratulated PMB before two remaining states were counted and BARRED his PARTY from contesting the results.
IDEA NO.2
The elections will come and go in 2019 and if Buhari loses he will concede just like GEJ and if he wins he got 4 more years .
So please stop clinging to this fantasy about some ECOWAS INTERVENTION FORCE in Nigeria. Nigeria takes the lead in ECOWAS deal with it or go hug a transformer, Neither can South Africa turn into a Military dictatorship their institutions despite it's flaws it has strong democratic institutions and it's people are fiercely independent. ANC lost Cape Town recently as an example.
Lastly PMB led the delegation to ousts / persuade JAMMEH diplomatically why would he then turn around and stay when his tenure is up?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Adminisher: 9:04pm On Jan 30, 2017
Henry240:


Yes, the F-7 is an interceptor. However it is not true to claim that they can't be used for COIN. 3 units are currently in Yola and I believe 3 more are in Maiduguri.

They can and have been used for COIN operations. There are countless NAF videos of the F-7 jets bombings Boko-Haram.

However they are not suited for the ground attack role they are currently used in.


GEJ did not purchase the ATR Survelliance planes, it was late President Ya'Ardua who did.


- We don't use the T-55 tanks any longer. The last time a T-55 was used operationally in Nigeria Was The 80s.

- former President Obasanjo bought 205 Otokar Cobra's. I've seen the serial numbers, I also shared it in this thread. It is a lie for anyone to claim Nigerian army Otokar Cobra's don't carry military grade armour.

They have performed pretty well in Nigeria's COIN operations. Nigerian Cobra's have taken massive punishing yet they are still going strong. Watch this space, I'll soon post a photos of Nigerian Cobra's in Combat.

This is a lie.

- that's also a lie, before GEJ we had 12 Hind helicopters, a mix of MI-24v, MI-35p. Under GEJ, we lost 3 Attack helicopters, 1 was burnt by Boko-Haram when Maiduguri base was attacked, while 2 were lost to crashes in support of COIN missions.

GEJ bought 3 attrition replacement MI-24 helicopters to replace the 3 units we lost, while his government ordered 6 MI-35m helicopters and 6 MI-17 terminator helicopters.

So, that's another lie.


- MI-17 terminator is an assault helicopter. The basic MI-17 is just a transport helicopter.

- GEJ bought 50 T-72 tanks, half of them directly from Ukraine and the other half from Excalibur from Czech Republic. No T-72 came in via Poland.

-GEJ bought 2 AW-139 rescue helicopters for NIMASA. They are however operated by the Navy.

GEJ did not buy any ASW helicopters, that's another lie.

- The L-39s are based in Kano and are used as a lead in fighter trainer. They only recently, a couple months ago began to be armed. This was done by PMB.

So that's a lie.

- MT-LB was neither bought by GEJ, I think it was Obasanjo who bought them or Shagari.

We only showed interest in the Super king, we did not buy them. So that's another lie.

There are so many ignorant people in defence still praising GEJ. The noise people are making is just to prevent a future re occurrence. Nigeria is not a toy for some ill prepared, confused kleptomaniac to be playing games. We are also watching this Government especially in defence and security. So far they are scoring B- but there is room for improvement. We should not have wasted so much time pursuing Super Tucano.
That and not keeping up the pressure on Boko for two weeks are the only reasons they don't have an A

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by onumaegbuikenna: 9:09pm On Jan 30, 2017
frumentius:


He said dress uniforms.

This dress uniform

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