Adminisher:


There are so many ignorant people in defence still praising GEJ. The noise people are making is just to prevent a future re occurrence. Nigeria is not a toy for some ill prepared, confused kleptomaniac to be playing games. We are also watching this Government especially in defence and security. So far they are scoring B- but there is room for improvement. We should not have wasted so much time pursuing Super Tucano.
That and not keeping up the pressure on Boko for two weeks are the only reasons they don't have an A

I only give credit were it is due. This government is also doing nothing interms of defence acquisitions. I'll score them F-9. Only 2 Helicopters and 4 Super Mushaks so far. That's not even pass.

They are actually doing worse than GEJ, but they can still improve with 2 years to go.

Henry240:


I only give credit were it is due. This government is also doing nothing interms of defence acquisitions. I'll score them F-9. Only 2 Helicopters and 4 Super Mushaks so far. That's not even pass.

They are actually doing worse than GEJ, but they can still improve with 2 years to go.

chai
I am just hoping good things happen as per NN goals

Henry240:


Nigerian institutions would not allow a Jammeh type scenario here. Anyway for scenario sake........

Nigeria is an African leader, where is such an invasion going to even begin from.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others ".

Apart from the Insurgency in Nigeria, Nigerian Security forces are currently deployed in Liberia, Sudan, SLR, Mali, Guinea, Benin Republic, Somalia, Sao-Tome and Principe, and now 1500 troops in Gambia. 9 countries in all.

Those forces would be destroyed in their countries even before they get on the buses that would take them to the airports that would fly them.

There would be enough gunboat diplomacy for any of the countries planning to contribute to the force.

Nigerian ISR would follow their Presidents, while Satellites imagery would keep tabs on troop movement.

Nigerian commandos would be on standby to Kidnap thier Presidents and military chiefs.

It is simply not possible. The countries would be screwed even before they mobilize. The Nigerian military is nearly 3 times the other West-African armies put together.

In simpler terms, the Gambian invasion doesn't serve as a model to follow. That's all I wanted to hear from you, thanks.

GreenandGold:


In simpler terms, the Gambian invasion doesn't serve as a model to follow. That's all I wanted to hear from you, thanks.

"All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others".

Experts seem to believe the ECOWAS model is a model to follow. Nigeria, Senegal and ECOWAS have show Military force and Diplomacy is the best model to follow.

www.voanews.com/a/can-ecowas-tactics-in-gambia-serve-as-model/3698488.html?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter

Henry240:


"All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others".

Experts seem to believe the ECOWAS model is a model to follow. Nigeria, Senegal and ECOWAS have show Military force and Diplomacy is the best model to follow.

www.voanews.com/a/can-ecowas-tactics-in-gambia-serve-as-model/3698488.html?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter

Then you proceed in saying if ECOWAS would want to put boots in Nigeria, you'll kidnap their presidents and fight-them-all.... By your own words - it's not a model to follow.

GreenandGold:


Then you proceed in saying if ECOWAS would want to put boots in Nigeria, you'll kidnap their presidents and fight-them-all.... By your own words - it's not a model to follow.

Can the world put together invade the US?

Henry240:


Frumentius, I was right all along. The ECOWAS intervention in Gambia was illegal.

For days, I asked you and the other proponents who supported the invasion of Gambia to provide the legal proof which backs such an intervention, of course you guys could not and some others resorted to name calling.


Here is the evidence which supports my opinion.


ECOWAS used Article 58 of its revised treaty relating to regional security to justify the intervention, according to Nigerian legal expert Barrister Hassan Liman. Liman said the law stipulates that member states must work to safeguard and consolidate relations to maintain peace, stability and security within the region.

He added that the article does not give ECOWAS the right to use force to oust a leader.

http://www.voanews.com/a/can-ecowas-tactics-in-gambia-serve-as-model/3698488.html?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter

hmmm. LAW is very tricky. The troops that went into Gambia initially did not go in there to oust Jammeh, that would have been illegal, they went there to prevent the break down of law and order that may arise from the new president been sworn in the consulate compound of Gambia in Senegal, once Barrow was sworn in he legitimized the deployment of ECOMIG troops into Gambia by making a formal request for military assistant from ECOWAS as the new Head of State. That alone had made the second phase of the Gambian intervention a legitimate one. It is very legitimate for leaders of the ECOWAS commission to jointly deploy troops in a member country for human rights concerns. So the initial deployment was for human right concern not to remove Jammeh it was after Barrow was sworn in that the interventionists forces got the teeth they needed to bite just incase Jammeh refuses to leave. That's what the ECOWAS guys may say in their defence. Or they will just say "we got angry".

Henry240:


Can the world put together invade the US?

You're not the US, not even in West Africa... Maybe I should remind you how much you struggled with BH. How do you think you can battle Senegal, Niger, Ghana and Cameroon combined? .. You don't have solid ground formations, your airforce only drops free-fall bombs, your navy doesn't fire anything above a 76mm projectile.

You're over estimating your small military muscle.

GreenandGold:


You're not the US, not even in West Africa... Maybe I should remind you how much you struggled with BH. How do you think you can battle Senegal, Niger, Ghana and Cameroon combined? .. You don't have solid ground formations, your airforce only drops free-fall bombs, your navy doesn't fire anything above a 76mm projectile.

You're over estimating your small military muscle.

man you don't know jack about our armed forces.

onumaegbuikenna:


This dress uniform

I understand. U are correct.

Airborne360:
man you don't know jack about our armed forces.

Give a man a phone, give him Wi-Fi or mobile data, show him google and he will think he knows all.

This is what exactly is wrong with him.

GreenandGold:


You're not the US, not even in West Africa... Maybe I should remind you how much you struggled with BH. How do you think you can battle Senegal, Niger, Ghana and Cameroon combined? .. You don't have solid ground formations, your airforce only drops free-fall bombs, your navy doesn't fire anything above a 76mm projectile.

You're over estimating your small military muscle.

Hey, Miss informed guy, we are not only US to West Africa but to Africa too. If you like you can cry.

You can ask US how long they've battled with talibans, alqeada, ISIS, terrorism in US and other. Many countries are by far more peaceful than US in terms of crime and terrorism despite the amount they spend on security.

South Africa couldn't secure their country from poachers and you blame another for not defending themselves from terrorist despite having terrorist in Mali, Libya, Algeria, Egypt and clashes in countries like C.A.R, Congo, Sudan, South Sudan, etc which is enough market to resupply weapons and fighters to them.

GreenandGold:


You're not the US, not even in West Africa... Maybe I should remind you how much you struggled with BH. How do you think you can battle Senegal, Niger, Ghana and Cameroon combined? .. You don't have solid ground formations, your airforce only drops free-fall bombs, your navy doesn't fire anything above a 76mm projectile.

You're over estimating your small military muscle.

Mr miss informed, the Nigerian airforce don't just drop bombs, they have access to satellite imagery, ISR platforms and even PGMs just like many advanced airforce. It's not by how many Aircrafts you have but by how well you use the little you have. I believe we are far ahead of South African airforce with 26 Gripens jet but just 6-9 qualified pilots and 4 hawks with only one pilot who can land at sea. Every country don't fight war like the US. All that matters is that our strategy works well for us and many countries have been trooping to Nigeria to learn this wonderful low cost strategy of defeating terrorist.


And for your Senegal, Niger, Mali and cameroon invasion, all I can do is to laugh in Pidgin. You can add South Africa to the list too and I swear nothing would still happen.

chkil:


- hind number built more then 2500 , in service all around the word in all battles , still active in syrian war by russian themself (and they have mi28ne, ka-50) and still countries buy new hinds until today .
- rooivalk 12 unit built , with only 12 units in the world probability of crash is too low

Are you rett,arded?

Are you saying 2500 Hind's are flying around the mountains of North Kivu?

Think before you type

Henry240:


On ARMSCOR

So the opinion of a person in a comments section is now fact?

You are guilty of exactly what GreenandGold accuses you of.

Another day, another pile of Henry120 bullsh1t.

Heck, we cant even go a week without @frum having to take off his belt and spank you

Henry240:


On the T-55's


Can you tell me what these are?

You got caught lying and tried to backtrack.

Henry240:


So you tell me, do I, or do I not provide proof?


Or like the illiterate buffoon who quoted me earlier, my posts hurt you so bad that you choose to post whatever comes into your head, and not what I've actually posted?

You allmost never post proof.

Your version of proof is "because I say so" or "because he says so"

Henry240:


The company did not go bankrupt, it rather bankrupted the nation of South Africa. Yes, so, so much better. Wise guy.



Armscor bankrupted SA and the Cameron commission of inquiry found it to be incredibly corrupt and incredibly incompetent.

Are you happy now?

You see?

You are so desperate to bash south africa because of your deep insecuritie and massive inferiority complex that you repeat the nonsense spewed by an slowpoke.

1. ARMSCOR making South Africa go broke... think about what you are saying. Just think for a second.

2. The Cameron inquiry had NOTHING TO DO WITH CORRUPTION/INCOMPETANCE. The Cameron inquiry was focused on South Africa breaking sanctions and selling arms to other countries.
http://mg.co.za/article/1995-06-02-sas-arms-dealing-underworld

You are so desperate to throw insults

So desperate to pull South Africa down, hoping that will pull Nigeria up (it wont)

You will say and do anything

Without thinking

Without researching

and make a fool of yourself.

Be better.

.

Henry240:



Nigerian ISR would follow their Presidents, while Satellites imagery would keep tabs on troop movement.

Nigerian commandos would be on standby to Kidnap thier Presidents and military chiefs.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Wtf is this sh1t?

boko haram aka Islamic State West Africa Province have released video showing them overrunning a Nigeria army outpost in yobe state

iblawi:


Hey, Miss informed guy, we are not only US to West Africa but to Africa too. If you like you can cry.

You can ask US how long they've battled with talibans, alqeada, ISIS, terrorism in US and other. Many countries are by far more peaceful than US in terms of crime and terrorism despite the amount they spend on security.

South Africa couldn't secure their country from poachers and you blame another for not defending themselves from terrorist despite having terrorist in Mali, Libya, Algeria, Egypt and clashes in countries like C.A.R, Congo, Sudan, South Sudan, etc which is enough market to resupply weapons and fighters to them.

Look at these guys.

They beat up tiny Gambia and now they are America?

Get a grip.

iblawi:


Mr miss informed, the Nigerian airforce don't just drop bombs, they have access to satellite imagery, ISR platforms and even PGMs just like many advanced airforce. It's not by how many Aircrafts you have but by how well you use the little you have. I believe we are far ahead of South African airforce with 26 Gripens jet but just 6-9 qualified pilots and 4 hawks with only one pilot who can land at sea. Every country don't fight war like the US. All that matters is that our strategy works well for us and many countries have been trooping to Nigeria to learn this wonderful low cost strategy of defeating terrorist.


And for your Senegal, Niger, Mali and cameroon invasion, all I can do is to laugh in Pidgin. You can add South Africa to the list too and I swear nothing would still happen.

minimum of 14 Gripen Pilots
20+ Hawks pilots

an *ACTUAL* Recon/Spy satellite


Get your facts straight, if you want a pissing contest go elsewhere.

Henry240:


"All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others".

Experts seem to believe the ECOWAS model is a model to follow. Nigeria, Senegal and ECOWAS have show Military force and Diplomacy is the best model to follow.

www.voanews.com/a/can-ecowas-tactics-in-gambia-serve-as-model/3698488.html?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter

Salem Solomon, a journalist, is now an expert?

Jesus christ, Nigerians... making mountains out of mole-hills for 60 years.

Henry240:


A bunch of Jonathan supporters who have simply refused to move on or accept that the military under GEJ was hopelessly corrupt or the GEJ loss in the election.

At a point we spent 5.7 billion dollars on defence a year, what was that money used for?

Let him provide the evidence of my false claims so that I can tear him apart.

For the avoidance of doubt, I'm also an ardent GEJ supporter, when I came back to Nigeria, I participated in neighbour-to-neighbour events in support of the GEJ campaign.

Thats true ! for real I love every single president of Nigeria, but seriously talking about defence and security PMB is better than GEJ

solbil:
now that Jammeh is gone, what do you think is in store for the other long serving leaders of Africa? Will the AU now have the gut to do the same in say, Zimbabwe, Angola, Rwanda, and Uganda?

the next one must be Cameroon, Rwanda no its still a democratic country and its to risky I dont want to see a genocide again ...

Henry240:


Frumentius, I was right all along. The ECOWAS intervention in Gambia was illegal.

For days, I asked you and the other proponents who supported the invasion of Gambia to provide the legal proof which backs such an intervention, of course you guys could not and some others resorted to name calling.


Here is the evidence which supports my opinion.


ECOWAS used Article 58 of its revised treaty relating to regional security to justify the intervention, according to Nigerian legal expert Barrister Hassan Liman. Liman said the law stipulates that member states must work to safeguard and consolidate relations to maintain peace, stability and security within the region.

He added that the article does not give ECOWAS the right to use force to oust a leader.

http://www.voanews.com/a/can-ecowas-tactics-in-gambia-serve-as-model/3698488.html?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter

Henry from the law perspective all wars are illegal, but we have to know something law is possible because of power, when we are talking about military action law has no power cant do anything ... we all have to read the constitution ...
The state gouvernment allows the constitution, the law is nothing without the power, it is not by magic if the police is also called law enforcement agency... when we talk about country against country there is no law there are just Agreements often call treaties, but treaties are respected by the weakest ones...

Nok234:


Thats true ! for real I love every single president of Nigeria, but seriously talking about defence and security PMB is better than GEJ

PMB was a formal military man while GEJ was a bloody civilian. Although I will still say PMB tried because he had fewer resources in terms of government income and a very high exchange rate(155 to a $ now 305 to a $ officially) which would limit procurement of weapons. The best thing is just to make sure we produce most of our basic military needs within the country.

GreenandGold:



But why is everyone from West Africa keep saying "this serves as a model".... One wonders if the same ECOWAS would put boots in Nigeria if maybe Buhari would steal an election.

you really don't get it ... Nigeria no country in west africa will dear to put boots in Nigeria ... ECOWAS is controlled by Nigeria if you like it or not ... everything ECOMOG or ECOMIG whatever you call it is controled by Nigeria, even big African institution like ADB is controlled by Nigeria the only country that can put bots in Nigeria which is already operating in Africa is France ... its not magic why no one attack NorthKorea ?...

GreenandGold:


Dictatorship occurs anywhere, it's even likely to happen in South Africa with more stable years (and stronger institutions).

So don't dodge the question, would ECOWAS troops enter Nigeria to setup another example in a scenario dictatorship occurred?

No because ECOWAS dont even exit without Nigeria ... look imagine their is a Dictator in US will NATO attack the US or will only say that he is a good guy ?

iblawi:


Well this is happening now

http://sunnewsonline.com/nigeria-takes-over-the-gambia-military/

like always love being strong !

Patchesagain:


minimum of 14 Gripen Pilots
20+ Hawks pilots

an *ACTUAL* Recon/Spy satellite


Get your facts straight, if you want a pissing contest go elsewhere.

We are not going over this again please.