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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chuksjuve(m): 11:00am On Jan 31, 2017 |
As a landscape and garden service provider..whom do I submit a proposal to.. The site engineer, head of project or human resource manager of the construction firm? Thanks |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubyventures: 11:07am On Jan 31, 2017 |
chuksjuve: Have you got pictures of some of your work? cos I know someone who might be interested. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chuksjuve(m): 11:12am On Jan 31, 2017 |
Rubyventures: I sure do have, even a proposal So can you send me your email to forward them to you? Thanks |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubyventures: 11:14am On Jan 31, 2017 |
chuksjuve: Why don't you place it here, just pictures as there might be other people who may be interested. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 11:17am On Jan 31, 2017 |
lastpage:Mr lastpage. I believe you have educate some of them enough. Mr A lay his argument the way he saw it, Mr B doesn't make any since in his argument or mind up his mind. Its could be ignorance of knowledge. very simple question I need to ask, if one loss 80% of his income, with commitment of 150% of his income. will he still be spending as if he as 180% income? with noting in savings. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chuksjuve(m): 11:24am On Jan 31, 2017 |
chuksjuve:
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:39pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
darami: Darami, I was driven there by my Mom's driver, This was time before I ever knew I would want to share stuffs on Nairaland, otherwise I would have taken pictures of what I saw there and would have asked him for his number and all that. I have asked my mom to ask his driver for the guy's details, and once I get it, I would post it here. But I know we turned right at Orogun bust stop. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:44pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
EgunMogaji: I see that the question has been answered. Just to ask if you intend to plant trees in your site before you return to base. The rains are just coming and it would aid their survival. That was what I did not do in my own time. I realise now that trees take time to grow and the earlier in place the better. I imagine that you have an idea of places you wish to plant and that which you want to interlock / concrete already. I take a likingg to the African Birch tree, lean, well mannered roots, so no issues with foundations and stuff. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:51pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
Of discussing politics in the Building section: I think building is a socio- economic venture, with a lot of decisions that affect building taken by politicians. Even if you want to avoid it, the building material seller would inundate you with why it is politicians that made him increase his prices. I am for smart, intelligent discussions about the impact of politics concerning what impact my ability to build. As long as it does not become the mud-slinging of the property section and it is sharp, and then people return to the micro issue, which is building. Where I live, Politicians must talk about buildings and housing every week and this then become a major discourse. I enjoyed the political interactions on building that I read in the last page. Thanks 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubyventures: 3:00pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
[quote author=chuksjuve post=53289539][/quote] This looks nice where are you based? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 3:29pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
spyder880: Thank you for emphasising this Sir. I strongly concur. spyder880: Sir, Permit me to respond to the bolded by asking: IN WHOSE HANDS IS IT RIGHT NOW, if we agree with your assertion that it is no longer in the Government/Buhari's hands? My position on the same question is that "It is in the hands of we Nigerians. We can ease our buirden on ourselves or we can continue to do "all man for himself" and choke ourselves to death spyder880: Sir, l am happy that you have narrowed it down to SCARCITY OF DOLLARS, (especially with regards to products whose origin is foreign and has to be imported) The above represents a detailed ANALYSIS of THE PROBLEM.... but what about CAUSE of the problem.... and what about the SOLUTION to the problem? To avoid repetition, l will "summarise" what l proposed was THE CAUSE of the Problem, in my earlier post. 1.) Nigeria is a Mono-Economy: An economy which is heavily dependent on ONE SOURCE of foreign exchange (Dollar) receipt, which is Crude Oil. 2.) The above means that we have neglected other 'possible source' of forex/Dollars, over the years 3.) We are a heavily IMPORT DEPENDENT ECONOMY: This means that even if we are able to earn enough forex (by some magic), we are quickly depleting it as we buy/import almost everything from abroad 4.) The Only Product that we sell in order to receive forex (Dollars that are scarce) being crude Oil, has lost 80% of its value when the Govt took power. The implication is that Nigeria has lost 80% of whatever Dollars it used to have. THIS IS THE FUNDAMENTAL SOURCE OF THE SCARCITY YOU ALLUDE TO. Thus we cannot blame the Govt of Nigeria (led by Buhari) for this drop in price of Crude Oil because it is an "international phenomena" affecting many other Oil producing countries. The only difference is that countries like Quatar, Saudi Arabia, who are also in the same position as we are, have "WISELY" INVESTED their previous incomes (Forex/Dollars) in areas like Housing, Refineries, Roads, Health, Agriculture...... while our Own previous Governments LOOTED AND STOLE OUR OWN DOLLARS! The Govts in question was not led by Buhari but by the likes of OBJ but specifically cancerous under Goodluck Jonathan! 5.) In addition to the above, despite the deep slump in Crude oil price (and our receipts), the little we export also got seriously cut due to the sabotaging efforts of fellow Nigerians from the Creeks who (rightly or wrongly, l wont go into that argument here) bombed and destroy Nigeria's oil flow stations... under Buhari's Govt. Thus, a Dollar revenue that has been down for about 80% due to global Oil price crash, also went further down because we could not meet up with our allocated export Quota! So, we the Govt was working under a sort of 15-18% Dollar/Forex receipts, for the first one year and few Months of its being in power. This is the REASON for the Scarce Dollars you mention, that caused the price to rise as demand remains unabated, leading to the Manufacturer buying Dollar at a high price, passing it down to the distributor and trickle down to the final seller and then the "end-user of the product. - How is the above scenario, caused by this Govt of Buhari? - Did he crash the price of Crude Oil? - Did he squander the forex we accumulated/reciept when the value of Oil price was high (he was not even the President then) - Was he responsible for not investing wisely (like other countries did), the huge receipts of Dollars we had in the "good days"? - Is he responsible for our penchant for imported products, even for goods that can be produced locally" - Was he the one bombing and destroying oil flow stations all over the place? The answer to these 'posers' is why l say we Nigerians are not honest with ourselves. The second part of this discussion has to do with "goods"t that have very "low dollar input"......... yet the price keeps galloping at the same rate as the rise in Dollar exchange rate. While it is easy to say everyone is responding to the "market forces" as Exchange rate rise forces price-rise in dollar-dependent products, the reality is that most "sellers" are just into "profit-taking", which is an act of selfishness and Greed. For example, look at the increasing rate of House rent: Some houses were built in the 1970's, with very low maintenance as it was built on solid ground, yet the owners have kept increasing the rent on such house at the rate of '"prevailing rising prices", citing the Dollar rate! Question is: What is the "direct relationship" between the exchange rate and the Rent of such house.... that it should go along hand-in-hand, if not sheer exploitation of one another?. If Dollar rate was rising at 20% monthly, why should the Rent of such house be at par with it? Why not a 10% increase say over two years? spyder880: [b]Well, most people that say the above have not provided any "alternative solution that is workable and viable" to justify their position infact, most only 'identify' the problem (which is very easy to do), fail to give an in-depth analysis of the CAUSE of the problem and hence, are unable to proffer any workable solution. *I personally think the Govt can do more than it has done, for example, l dont like Govt banning items that people need but we are unable to produce in large enough quantity because it puts pressure on supply and as a result, price rise astronomically. *I dont like a situation where Govt thinks throwing more money at a problem (like in the Electricity and Petroleum supply Sectors where the "Cabals" are always asking for tariff increase, since l was a small boy, claiming if given such increase, supply will stabilise!) will solve the problem. *I think Govt should be "more aggressive" in dealing with saboteurs in those sectors. *I think Govt should be more decisive in dealing with those who "fake/adulterate" products, those who fail to deliver on paid projects like infrastructures, reduce the fat allowance of the National Assembly members or make it a part-time job such that only a "honorarium" is paid each time there is a "House Sitting" and this should not be more than thrice in a month. That way, only serious and intelligent people will want to be "House members"..... as against now that every crook will murder their mother, just to become a Senator! [/b] Having said that, l will score the Govt a pass mark on Agriculture, Security, diversification, nti-corruption, e.t.c though l am also aware that some of these issues take longer than one or two years to really bring out their full benefit. Thus, l completely disagree that the Govt does not have the capacity to solve the problem or not solving it ..... l just think that we Nigerians are a very difficult lot to govern, as some of us are outright saboteurs, some are profit-takers irrespective of whether the country's moral fibre is ruined or not and problems created over a long time, dont take a year to solve! There is no Silver-bullet to Nigeria's problem except if we INCREASE EXPORT so as to EARN more Forex ,via Agriculture, Manufacturing, Mining, while REDUCING IMPORT through local production so as to spend less of our forex reserve and shore-up the value of our own currency (Naira) but the above can only happen under two conditions 1.) Stable Power supply (2) Functioning Iron and Steel industry to power the industrial revolution that Nigeria needs. These two things take an average of five years detailed and continuous planning, investment and development,, to show the first signs/result that one can point to. This is where we are, this is who we are! Lastpage! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:31pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
Kasimeme: Please tell me where orogun is. I intend to plant about 5 palm trees in pre identified locations on site. Thanks. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 3:59pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
FastShipping: Sir, a Govt cannot just take "any money" thrown at it, just because it is broke! These loans ALWAYS come with certain CONDITIONS! The question is whether you are ready to accept and live with such conditions. Let me recall that in 1985, l was an Undergraduate at the University and Ibrahim Babangida was the President and had just taken the IMF loan. By then the Naira was 75K to a Dollar, just before then, every Teacher could get a loan to buy a car (My Mums Volkswagen was #1,200). Power was stable and petrol cost either 7K/litre (not sure exact amount right now). Nigeria had a National carrier (Nigeria Airways) and we had a National Shipping Line (NNSL). Nigeria had a few working Refineries and Steel Companies like Aladja, Itakpe, e.t.c Almost every Graduate would get a job and the brilliant ones like one of my Brothers, had two jobs waiting, each with a brand new Peugoet 504 to boot! In summary, Life was easy-peasy fir Nigerians though the Politicians that these same Buhari came to chase away, were squandering our wealth so much so that one of them said Nigeria was so rich and our problem was "how to spend the money". Then IBB took the IMF loan and the "conditionalities" completely destroyed Nigeria's economy. They asked us to "liberalise everything", open our doors to imports, stop protecting our industries, e.t.c. These were the conditions that IBB accepted, for him to be given the loan. It was these "conditions" that destroyed Nigeria's economy and everything was NEVER THE SAME, from then on. We are still paying the price for accepting tht loan, till today! So, if you see a lender running after you (like a bank!) telling oyu it has money to borrow you, please "read and study the contions attached properly" otherwise you might be signing-away your freedom for forever. Some have even committed suicide, based on the conditions of the loan/mortgage they accepted (at individual level). Yes, Nigeria committed suicide, by accepting that loan (with conditions).......and the country died! Buhari, having been removed by IBB and placed under arrest, watched an economy he and Idiagbon were starting to gradually rebuild, destroyed by one greedy, gap-tooted Evil genius! So, you should understand why Buhari hated the IMF like leprosy...and with good reason. I will enjoin you to google some countries that received the IMF loan and see what happened to ALL of them. Not a single one of them recovered rather, they all died! Infact, if you can lay your hand on a book titled "How Europe under-developed Africa".... you should read it and it explains how our "masters" used such Brenton-Woods institutions like the IMF, World Bank, to "deliberately arrest our development"... with the connivnace of our foolish leaders who are often promised juicy returns to ruin their own country! Ofocurse, the stubborn one like Jonas Savimbi of Angola, gets murdered by the CIA! (Ok, you will say that is conspiracy theory but a few members of the IMF have owned up after retirement.) So Sir, he was not forming "macho", he was taking the best interest of the country into account, using his vast previous experience! Experience is priceless. Lastpage! ***Just imagine for a moment, what the value of the Naira would be if we accepted the loan at a point when the price of crude also nosedived for about 80%? Zimbawean Dollars would not even exchange for the Naira, IMO. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 4:02pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
kopell: I cant ask it better! But at times, we all take different "time lapse" to see the "Big Picture"..... for different reasons. No one knows it all. Thank you Sir! Lastpage! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 4:13pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
Demainman1: We have advised you not to get insulting, so we can keep the discussion MATURED! At least you should have learnt from what Spyder wrote in the first paragraph of his post I just laugh at people like you who are quick to point at how long someone wrote.... when the fact remains that to do so is likely a big challenge for them! Spyder responded to what l wrote.... civilly! You can do the same if it is in you. Please let us keep it cordial as it is just an "aside discussion" so we dont want insults to turn it into another thing. If you want to abuse me, come over to the politics section. Over there, it is "blow-for-blow", real rofo-rofo fight! Am sure you cant even survive there! Thank you for doing it the right way. Lastpage! BTW: Life is a choice and you should not allow @Lastpage's choice, to define who you are or who you can be. It reeks of "complex"! Carve your own niche, so'gbo? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 4:16pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
abbatoir: Thank you. What is your own take on the matter? Lastpage! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 4:17pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
spyder880:Oh wow, this house. I remember following the thread. Good job man 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 4:22pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
spyder880:Correct me if am wrong, this is a 10 apartment building?. 35-36m is not bad though. If this is located in lagos or Abuja could be selling for 3 figures |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 4:26pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
All these stories / write ups no even catch my attention like that house wey Spyder just deliver. E be like make e be mine. 36m for that no bad o. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 4:34pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
I think that's 8 flats....looking @ the picture unless two flats dey underground.. Empiree: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 4:37pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
lastpage:Are you a journalist or trying to be one?. You certainly know how to write epistles . My view is in harmony with both sides actually |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 4:40pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
3strikes:You are right jere. My eyes were counting twinkle stars 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gentlemate00: 5:10pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
I will like to share my building from foundation to Intel level and welcome any more input from guru in da house:-)
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:45pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
I've only seen pictures and stuff but I had an opportunity to touch and feel imported doors today. This store also sells household materials. Reminds me of the old Gottshalcks (sp).
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Flaghouse1: 5:59pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
EgunMogaji: Egunmogaji The bolded refers [b]Gottshalcks you think say all this our indomie generation know we tin you dey talk about 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:04pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
EgunMogaji: Once you get to the University of Ibadan, continue north past the university. In under 10 minutes you will be in orogun. It is actually under 5 minutes, I factored in traffic hold ups when I say 10 minutes. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by darami(f): 6:19pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
Kasimeme:Thank you! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:30pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
Sorted. Issue posted earlier was caused by cookies. So no need to have it live as an issue anymore. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:45pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
darami: My pleasure |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chuksjuve(m): 7:19pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
Rubyventures: I'm based in ketu Lagos |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 7:37pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
EgunMogaji: At Ibadan, I believe? Hajji M. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kenazuu(m): 8:09pm On Jan 31, 2017 |
mufutau55: yes! bought my doors( 2 turkey door) from there at a good price though before now. 1 Like |
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