Nihilist:


This is the very koko. Long azz post incoming

Hazard is the main creator in the side. Sanchez has been playing 9 for most of the season and had Ozil and Xhaka behind him. Iwobi too. Ronado has them Modric, Isco and co. Griezman has Koke.

Hazard has a tendency to prefer to make goals rather than finish them, and that shows in our current setup where there's no vision in midfield.

Hazard and Sanchez have very similar stats when it comes to match involvement over the last 5 gameweeks(They are now both playing out on the left wing)

Hazard has 74.8 touches of the ball per game, Sanchez has 75.3 (rounded up both have 75 touches per game)
Hazard has 59.2 touches in the opponents half, Sanchez has 62.7 ( Again very similar numbers)
Hazard has 1.2 minutes per touch of the ball, Sanchez has 1.2 per touch

So far so good, both players have been seeing the ball at more or less the same rate as their teams respectively look for them all the time.

Where things begin to change is where they receive the ball and what they do with the ball when they get it.

Hazard collects 42.3 passes per game in the opposition half, Sanchez recieves 47 of his own passes per game in the opposition half
Hazard collects 28.2 passes per game in the opposition third. Sanchez recieves 33.7 of his passes per game in the opposition third

consequently
Hazard has 6.3 touches of the ball in the opposition penalty box per game, Sanchez has 8

Basically, Sanchez is seeing more of the ball in threatening positions than Hazard.

BUT that doesn't explain the massive discrepancy in shots between them.

Hazard goal attempts 1.5 per game. Sanchez 5.3
Hazard shots in the box 1.2 per game Sanchez 3.2

Hazard also takes a shot once every 58.8 minutes, Sanchez takes a shot every 17 minutes.

Clearly Hazard needs to up his shooting game....There's no doubt about that BUT there's a reason he doesn't shoot that much as seen below.

Sanchez creates 2.7 chances created per game, Hazard 2.5
Sanchez made 1.2 through balls per game, Hazard 0.2
Sanchez created a chance every 34.9 minutes, Hazard created a chance every 35.3 minutes

On the surface it would look like Sanchez is doing better than Hazard there too, but it's important to remember that:

When we attack, we attack with our front 3 supported by the wingbacks behind them. When Arsenal attack, Ramsey leaves the pivot to join them Ozil, Sanchez, Giroud, Iwobi up front. Bellerin and Monreal also step up to support the attack and create an overload.

So basically we attack with 3+2, Arsenal attack with 4+3.

The extra numbers Arsenal commit to the attack means that opposing teams cannot afford to try and mark Sanchez out of the game because the remaining 6 guys can kill you easily. Also it means that Sanchez has more people to aim for when creating chances. The likes of Giroud, Ozil, Walcott, Iwobi, Ramsey etc will make nice runs that he can aim through passes at.

Hazard has nobody like that. Only Costa is up top, Pedro\Willian and Hazard are the only 2 people that join him in his attacking line. Hazard has nobody to aim through pass to because we play 5 defensive players at all times. Instead he has to pass the ball short in that opposition half, and then move into space to collect it again, or he has to dribble several opponents to create a chance...because we play an inverted pivot. The man that should be at 10 is at centreback(Luiz). The DM that should surge forward and join the attack aint going nowhere(Matic). So Hazard has to be more responsible with his passing and be more patient when creating chances.

Hence

Hazard total pass completion 85% to Sanchez 74.8%
Hazard number of passes per game 54 to Sanchez 50
Hazard number of passes in opposition half 37.2 to Sanchez 31
Hazard percentage of successfull passes in opposition half 84% to Sanchez 74%

Hazard number of passes made in the final third 27.3, Sanchez 23.7
Hazard percentage of successfull passes in final third 84.1% to Sanchez 72.8%

In the end it is important to note that despite this Hazard is still creating a similar number of chances at a similar rate as Sanchez. That's crazy.

Long story short, Hazard has a creative burden in a team lacking creativity which is reluctant to commit men to attack, and is not being significantly outperformed by Sanchez who plays in a far more attacking team.

all these are long stories and permutations to tell me why hazard won't upgrade his shooting skills..

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The way people churn up nonsense ehn

People now play us with 5 defenders and sit deep leaving Hazard moving up and down trying to create chances up like when opponents open up and he played centrally .....Everyone play use with 3-4-3 which means Hazard has to track back the wingbacksand the RCB if needed unlike against 4-3-3 or 4-4-2,He is no longer central unlike the early days..

When he was scoring he didn't need to create much cause our game was open, even Messi's goal tally reduced when he took on the responsibility of creating


Make up your mind guys, what do you want in Hazard? A goalscorer or a creator?
Cause this guy can't do both

Play Fabregas, you said no you want Matic abeg don't kill Hazard... ..The boy has done nothing wrong

We all love him but I already made peace with the fact that Hazard won't score 25 goals a season, Ya all should deal with it

Excuses upon excuses to why hazard shooting ability is low which is the only downside of his game.

When we were playing in the 4-2-3-1, you said because he orchestrates attack from mildfield which is limiting his scoring game. Now we change to 3-4-3 you came up with another excuse that opposition teams lies deep which now makes him to move up and down creating chances, whereas when he was playing centrally his shooting ability was poor.

When will he up his goal scoring form?? Maybe when he starts playing lone striker ni. There's no need siding with a guy who says he's okay with scoring 1 goal in a match.his goalscoring game should improve simple.

SIRcumalot:

Liverpool 3 Chelsea 0.
Go play am for nairabet.

Why e no reach '6'na?

Skimpledawg:

Why e no reach '6'na?

Na wetin fatomilola tell me I report.

Hazard fan boys always get touchy when we highlight periods he is simply MIA. They are so quick to point out that willian is not effective ( I do believe his output isnt good enough) and point out Pedro's bad games but when we mention Hazard, oh my. . its an abomination.

The problem i have with most of you lot is your need to always come up with an excuse when things are not looking rosy for Hazard. No one denies he is an important player for us, no one denies he has had a nice start this season. But, you all want to turn a blind eye when he's under-performing and the team is winning without much of his influence. Must everything about chelsea be Hazard-ized before its validated?

Imagine the statement that started this discuss 'Hazard is not their mate' when he has played more minutes that the other 2 guys and they are not too far off him in terms of output.. His mate 'Sanchez' is practically beasting in the most important stats for a forward (Goals and Assist)(sorry nihilist, gbogbo wannabe statistical analysis yen nor dey prove anything).

E gbe ishan le jor. Hazard's form has declined. say it as it is and dont blame the other guys putting in work for the team.

lalaboi:
Hazard fan boys always get touchy when we highlight periods he is simply MIA. They are so quick to point out that willian is not effective ( I do believe his output isnt good enough) and point out Pedro's bad games but when we mention Hazard, oh my. . its an abomination.

The problem i have with most of you lot is your need to always come up with an excuse when things are not looking rosy for Hazard. No one denies he is an important player for us, no one denies he has had a nice start this season. But, you all want to turn a blind eye when he's under-performing and the team is winning without much of his influence. Must everything about chelsea be Hazard-ized before its validated?

Imagine the statement that started this discuss 'Hazard is not their mate' when he has played more minutes that the other 2 guys and they are not too far off him in terms of output.. His mate 'Sanchez' is practically beasting in the most important stats for a forward (Goals and Assist)(sorry nihilist, gbogbo wannabe statistical analysis yen nor dey prove anything).

E gbe ishan le jor. Hazard's form has declined. say it as it is and dont blame the other guys putting in work for the team.

So you don't think a switch from a 4231 to a 343 can affect Hazards output?

Or you think our defensive solidity since the formation switch does not come with a price in terms of offence?

We play with 5 defenders and 2 DMs in case you forgot bro.

Nihilist:


So you don't think a switch from a 4231 to a 343 can affect Hazards output?

Or you think our defensive solidity since the formation switch does not come with a price in terms of offence?

We play with 5 defenders and 2 DMs in case you forgot bro.

Been awhile since I watched a CFC match.
So we go see today.
We watched how well he played in a 4-2-3-1 last season and now this 3-4-3 is to blame ?
When everybody was saying "this new conte style" free hazard from defensive responsibility and should allow him to be more offensive.

lalaboi:
Hazard fan boys always get touchy when we highlight periods he is simply MIA. They are so quick to point out that willian is not effective ( I do believe his output isnt good enough) and point out Pedro's bad games but when we mention Hazard, oh my. . its an abomination.

The problem i have with most of you lot is your need to always come up with an excuse when things are not looking rosy for Hazard. No one denies he is an important player for us, no one denies he has had a nice start this season. But, you all want to turn a blind eye when he's under-performing and the team is winning without much of his influence. Must everything about chelsea be Hazard-ized before its validated?

Imagine the statement that started this discuss 'Hazard is not their mate' when he has played more minutes that the other 2 guys and they are not too far off him in terms of output.. His mate 'Sanchez' is practically beasting in the most important stats for a forward (Goals and Assist)(sorry nihilist, gbogbo wannabe statistical analysis yen nor dey prove anything).

E gbe ishan le jor. Hazard's form has declined. say it as it is and dont blame the other guys putting in work for the team.

Argue all you want but you can't argue with facts
Hazard stopped scoring when Teams started playing 3-4-3 against us
Hazard has his style and that's to play with the ball and kill opponents with passes and movements,thats difficult in tight spaces and move difficult when you are trying to do that with Willian, Alonso, Matic and Kante

The way you see it is the way you will understand it..


Think of our goals in the last 2 months and compare it to our goals in Sept and Nov you will clearly see that there is hardly any free flowing goals like against Everton and United, and any 'team goal' you can remember has something to do with BOTH Hazard and Fabregas
Is it against Stoke or Bournemouth? .....Hazard and Fabregas must play together

The teams has been clueless against stubborn defences and all they do is cross and wait for corners. ....For us to improve we need Fabregas or stay happy with 2-0 wins at best

What do you want from Hazard? To grow 6 inches taller and score headers or shoot from 100yds? .....He is not that kinda player
You need to deal with it
Hazard haters need to deal with it
Conte needs to deal with it
Roman needs to deal with it and buy Griezmann or Auba

SIRcumalot:

Been awhile since I watched a CFC match.
So we go see today.
We watched how well he played in a 4-2-3-1 last season and now this 3-4-3 is to blame ?
When everybody was saying "this new conte style" free hazard from defensive responsibility and should allow him to be more offensive.

Hazard needs to up his shooting that's no doubt, but you need to remember that our current game is to lock up shop at the back and trust our top 3 to fashion and finish their own chances, or nick a goal from set piece.

Our game only opens up when Fab is on the pitch.

Skimpledawg:
All these long stories for Hazard? Are we going to continue pampering that niqqa? Niqqa should dance pass defences and score goals for us.


Abeg Chelsea vs Liverpool, what's the level?

When you rely on Hazard to dance through defences and not break them down then you know your midfield is useless

That's surprising considering the fact that we have our esteemed POTY and the Immaculate visionary CM with 6 assists all through wonderfully weighted through balls

How many times has Messi himself danced through well drilled defences and score without any support from his teammates

Funny.. The ability of hazard to score now rely on the efficacy of mildfielders...He is now helping the mildfield instead of scoring goals as a wing forward he is.. e no get wetin I no go see on this thread..

Ealier we were told Mourinho tactics limited Hazard productivity and Conte has released him from defensive work so we will see an increase in his output

They said Hazard is the creative hub yet has a miserly 4 assists in all competition

Its funny though that I am not even the one on Hazards case, na fellow chelsea fans

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When you rely on Hazard to dance through defences and not break them down then you know your midfield is useless

That's surprising considering the fact that we have our esteemed POTY and the Immaculate visionary CM with 6 assists all through wonderfully weighted through balls

How many times has Messi himself danced through well drilled defences and score without any support from his teammates

As much as I love Hazard, I will never support his 'mediocre' mentality. The Hazard we all see on the pitch is never, I repeat never ambitious which is the hallmark of a 'star player' we see him as.
And please Bigkesh, do not bring Messi and Hazard in the same sentence again because Messi, with or without his teammates 'at times ' is able to dance through well drilled defences and score awesome solo goals.
Someone once said that to main aim of the new formation was to free Hazard so as to live up to his hype.
I love Hazard, but please, let the niqqa SCORE GOALS.

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When you rely on Hazard to dance through defences and not break them down then you know your midfield is useless

That's surprising considering the fact that we have our esteemed POTY and the Immaculate visionary CM with 6 assists all through wonderfully weighted through balls

How many times has Messi himself danced through well drilled defences and score without any support from his teammates

messI have been carrying Barcelona for 5 years + now, when he gets injury barca struggles. c ronaldo have been scoring 20+ in all competition for 11years now. The earlier you realize hazard goalscoring game should be upgraded the better.

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When you rely on Hazard to dance through defences and not break them down then you know your midfield is useless

That's surprising considering the fact that we have our esteemed POTY and the Immaculate visionary CM with 6 assists all through wonderfully weighted through balls

How many times has Messi himself danced through well drilled defences and score without any support from his teammates

Do you remember who posted the below? I wonder what bigkesh will say now

bigkesh:
Its amazing how Conte gave everyone what they want in just a swing

Sent Oscar,Mikel and Ivanovic to the bins(Ibime)
Playing Hazard in a forward role with little defensive responsibilities (Hensben,Nateevs,Chelseafan1)
Changed the Foolish ninny mentality (Ibime)
Stopped Costa WWE career (Everyone)
Playing youth (hmmm,I wonder who this is)
Playing Kinta Kunte in a more advanced role(FBS)

I tried to think of something he has done to please Nihilist, but bobo yen is soo hard to please

lordfalcao:
Funny.. The ability of hazard to score now rely on the efficacy of mildfielders...He is now helping the mildfield instead of scoring goals as a wing forward he is.. e no get wetin I no go see on this thread..

Broh, the matter weak me o

raumdeuter:
Ealier we were told Mourinho tactics limited Hazard productivity and Conte has released him from defensive work so we will see an increase in his output

They said Hazard is the creative hub yet has a miserly 4 assists in all competition

Its funny though that I am not even the one on Hazards case, na fellow chelsea fans

imagine?? They said the 4-2-3-1 limits hazard from scoring (no problem we agreed) they told us if he is moved from mildfield to winger he will score( we agreed) now they said hazard is now helping the mieldfielder because we now play 2 DM and 2 wingback that there is no creativity in the mildfield. Hazard is a big game player for us but the only thing that sucks in him is his goalscoring game.

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When you rely on Hazard to dance through defences and not break them down then you know your midfield is useless

That's surprising considering the fact that we have our esteemed POTY and the Immaculate visionary CM with 6 assists all through wonderfully weighted through balls

How many times has Messi himself danced through well drilled defences and score without any support from his teammates

is the work of kante and matic dribbling mildfielders and breaking defense or disposing possession, tackling and stopping counters??

Between hazard and matic who should be assisting more ??

IMO, Harzard needs to step-up with scoring more. There's no excuse whatsoever. When they giving Best players they don't consider you playing in a tactics that's hard to score.

...and again our two DMs don't just stay put at the back, they also move in attack to help the forward..

In another news....

Skimpledawg:

Broh, the matter weak me o

should we buy modric, vidal, before he improves his goalscoring form ??

When Chelsea parked bus , messi could not score a goal in as many matches, but now that opponents put more bodies behind the ball, sitting deep against two dms who hardly press forward to free our crowded attackers they want hazard to score goals. I once said it that our attackers would find it difficult against disciplined bus-parking defenders , once opponents find out it's the key. Fact is hazard needs to improve his shooting skills but we should remember opposing teams have seen that they need not open their rears anytime Chelsea is with the ball. We saw goals he scored against the two Manchester sides earlier. He was allowed to enter dangerous space and scored, this is what our opponents have made sure they guide against recently. Even we saw some goals Costa scored lately as he stole those chances from tight spaces .

Ivanovic heads to zenith...

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airmark:
When Chelsea parked bus , messi could not score a goal in as many matches, but now that opponents put more bodies behind the ball, sitting deep against two dms who hardly press forward to free our crowded attackers they want hazard to score goals. I once said it that our attackers would find it difficult against disciplined bus-parking defenders , once opponents find out it's the key. Fact is hazard needs to improve his shooting skills but we should remember opposing teams have seen that they need not open their rears anytime Chelsea is with the ball. We saw goals he scored against the two Manchester sides earlier. He was allowed to enter dangerous space and scored, this is what our opponents have made sure they guide against. Even we saw some goals Costa scored lately as he stole those chances from tight spaces .

People forget these things quite easily. Comparing Chelsea with 3 centre backs and 2 DMs to Arsenal that play only one DM and 2 wingbacks and asking why Hazard us not scoring as much is just disingenuous.

Why is nobody asking Cech and Kolscieny where the cleansheets are?

airmark:
When Chelsea parked bus , messi could not score a goal in as many matches, but now that opponents put more bodies behind the ball, sitting deep against two dms who hardly press forward to free our crowded attackers they want hazard to score goals. I once said it that our attackers would find it difficult against disciplined bus-parking defenders , once opponents find out it's the key. Fact is hazard needs to improve his shooting skills but we should remember opposing teams have seen that they need not open their rears anytime Chelsea is with the ball. We saw goals he scored against the two Manchester sides earlier. He was allowed to enter dangerous space and scored, this is what our opponents have made sure they guide against recently. Even we saw some goals Costa scored lately as he stole those chances from tight spaces .

Thank you.

raumdeuter:


Do you remember who posted the below? I wonder what bigkesh will say now

Lol

I don't get your point?

lordfalcao:
should we buy modric, vidal, before he improves his goalscoring form ??

All this one na story... Hazard should just score goals or risk being an ordinary player.

airmark:
When Chelsea parked bus , messi could not score a goal in as many matches, but now that opponents put more bodies behind the ball, sitting deep against two dms who hardly press forward to free our crowded attackers they want hazard to score goals. I once said it that our attackers would find it difficult against disciplined bus-parking defenders , once opponents find out it's the key. Fact is hazard needs to improve his shooting skills but we should remember opposing teams have seen that they need not open their rears anytime Chelsea is with the ball. We saw goals he scored against the two Manchester sides earlier. He was allowed to enter dangerous space and scored, this is what our opponents have made sure they guide against recently. Even we saw some goals Costa scored lately as he stole those chances from tight spaces .

They want to be defensive solid with 2 DMs and want Hazard to carry the team more

This are the same set of people that Insulted Jose for trying to do the same thing




JUST IMAGINE

Skimpledawg:

All this one na story... Hazard should just score goals or risk being an ordinary player.

The only team in the world today where Hazard does not walk into a starting position is Barca. I might add Madrid due to Ororo factor. Rest assured Hazard isn't risking jack.

I don't get it. So formation is STILL the problem for Hazard's low output? Wow! Na wao...So please which formation will increase Hazard's output biko?

Btw Ibime have you seen this?

Ivanovic Chelsea career: 376 apps, 34 goals.

Iniesta Barcelona career: 398 apps, 34 goals.

Make I find small trouble...

Skimpledawg:

All this one na story... Hazard should just score goals or risk being an ordinary player.

He said it himself that he is not interested in scoring goals.
Me, I no send as long as the team is playing well and winning. Those who think he can do no wrong, like he is the best thing since efo riro, good luck.

timbros:
I don't get it. So formation is STILL the problem for Hazard's low output? Wow! Na wao...So please which formation will increase Hazard's output biko?

Btw Ibime have you seen this?

Ivanovic Chelsea career: 376 apps, 34 goals.

Iniesta Barcelona career: 398 apps, 34 goals.

Make I find small trouble...

Remember say today na match day o

timbros:
I don't get it. So formation is STILL the problem for Hazard's low output? Wow! Na wao...So please which formation will increase Hazard's output biko?

Btw Ibime have you seen this?

Ivanovic Chelsea career: 376 apps, 34 goals.

Iniesta Barcelona career: 398 apps, 34 goals.

Make I find small trouble...

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9 goals and 3 assists is low output?

Oya list how many players have more output in the league.