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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 7:09am On Feb 01, 2017
mcthewills:
Good day all
I have for a while followed this thread and its been quite educational and inspirational. I am so grateful robonski15 for starting up this thread. I am grateful to all the professionals who shared there experiences as well. I am impressed by how much you shared your experience to all. This thread must have helped a number of fish farmers to rectify errors and improve yield.

That been said, it seems like the enthusiasm with which this thread was started isnt much there any longer. There hasn't been much post in the past few days.

As such, I implore the experts in the house to consider organizing training workshop. I am sure that myself and a number of newbies who go through this post on a daily basis will be interested in attending.

House, it will be nice to hear you thoughts on this.

Regards
Experts Welldone. My thought is that it wont be necessary to post,except help is needed by someone,you are mention or have a thing to share

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 7:22am On Feb 01, 2017
grandjury:
Please what is the use of the aerators been mentioned here and how is a pond with a flow through system constructed?

Heard that catfish is a rugged fish and should not die the way i've experienced @Excelsiorfarm, how can I tell if the water I'm using has chlorine or too much iron in it...I am using well water.
catfish is rugged & can tolerate harsh environment for a while,but not hetero spp. Aerator is useful for addition of oxygen,but the best are aerator with fine bubbles. It aids fish health etc. No special construction,just the pipe connection, water with chlorine can be detected by smell,taste,use of test kit or laboratory. For iron,if left for a while,you see rust like sediment or brownish red,for heavy case,laboratory or kit for trace quantity.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 7:34am On Feb 01, 2017
Sirdik:
Hello peepz.am a failed fishfarmer. I want to try again. I av 2 ponds n want to try again.could some 1 help me with cost analysis for raising 1000 juveniles to table size pls.
Who made you a failed fishfarmer? that it didn't work well initially,is to educate you that somethings wasn't done well,it might even be your fish seeds. So be encourage, the Truthful ones will tell you they had faced one challenge or the other from their expliots. For price keep 400,so as not to fear,the left over,you keep. Dont buy all your feed at once,buy in batches. Introduce aquapro & livestovit in your regime this time
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnsonadeolu: 8:12am On Feb 01, 2017
robonski15:
For melange farming u must stock your pond very well because the more melang u have for harvest the more profit you will make... Consequently U MUST observe all the neccessary management practices like SORTING REGULARLY, CHANGING OF WATER REGULARLY, DONT OVERFEED AND UNDER FEED...

In melenge farming you must minimize cost and maximize profit.. So in terms of feeding we look for the cheapest feed to use which is vital feed.. U start using vital right from 2mm..

At 4mm you can source for a good local feed to finish with before harvest, but I feed straight with vital till harvest.. To be continued..


Many buyers always source for 1kg & above, before harvest, how can some one get a buyer's for as many as 7000kg of Melange.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by sirwalex77(m): 11:36am On Feb 01, 2017
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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bily(m): 12:21pm On Feb 01, 2017
Ttalk:


I think the idea of stocking first shooters is becoming obsolete. It is like looking for a first class gradute when lower credit can perform the same task.
Firstly it is difficult to see 1500 shooters in 10,000 hatched fries. And the moment the shooters are isolated the competition begins leading to disparities in sizes.
You can turned an average fingerlings into monster wthing aaceptable time with the following method provided the brood are of good quality
1. Buy young fingerlings that is between 3weeks to 6week after hatching
2. Feed with stater feed regardless what they are picking before you bought them 0.8mm to 1.5mm correct so many deficiency in fingerlings.
4. Feed more than twice daily to bootst their eating habit
5. Ensure you buy similar size and sort to ensure even sizes
6. Rear them for at least 2weeks in nursery pond before transfer to growing pond

This simple strategy would transform average fish to perform like shooters.

Similarly, local feed with good frmula will give you what top feed would give with less cost. And rearing shooters for 6month ....that seem to be too long period

You couldn't have said it any better. My exact sentiments
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by legendte(m): 12:37pm On Feb 01, 2017
jksxxxx:
I have been following this thread since ..Find a good hatcher in ur location and ask him when he can select shooters get like 1500 shooters some sell at 20naira some 30naora depending on the person hatching the amont u spend on feeding shooters to a particular size can't be compared to the same amount u use in feeding normal post juvi...Like let's say u stock a pond with 1500 shooters first I will advice u to buy 2.5mm direct of skretting feeding since the shooters are bigger than Thier normal size 2 bag of skretting will last them for a 2 weeks after that blast them with vitamins mix with vitamins feed and I swear after 3 weeks people will feel ur fishes are two months old after they finish the two bags of skretting make sure u switch to top feed immediately ...What I have notice from experience is that skretting helps in fish growth of u have good fishes..Make sure the hatcher is honest some will use small hetro in hatching that will give u bad result so what matters is that u get a good fish .. for those starters never u buy fingerling even if it is 5naira for 10 fishes don't try it because it will waste ur time and money start with shooters and don't be lazy be there when the hatcher is counting some will give u 500 fishes and tell u it is 1000 ..So count with them ...And those of u asking for the cost estimate fish business u need to eat well before u go into it ..Me I don't really believe in local feed I use top feed for 3-4 no the then I get average size of 2kg when ur shotters get to 2 months they will eat one bag a day so be prepared and one bag of feed is over 6k when they get to 4 months it will increase to 2 bag a day for better growth use earth pond because of spacing u can sort the big one to one pond and leave the smaller one in another because the smaller one are oppressed during feeding ..So the price estimate to train 1500 jumpers for 4 to 5 months is about 500k to 600 when the fish get to 5 months u can switch to local feed to cut down cost ..But me I don't do that when I sold my last pond I had fishes of over 4kg I was really impressed with my result ..So if u are a new farmer please don't be stingy because one thing is this when u starve ur fish you reduce Thier growth and u will be the one to loss
How much should one budget for 10000 fishes feeding from this your method and where is your farm?
I need to talk to you
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by bilag17(m): 2:14pm On Feb 01, 2017
BECALMBECALM:
Well done bro excelsiorfarm and other contributors on this thread.I have few questions:1.I want to start fish farm and piggery in ogbomoso but not sure if there is market for it? 2.Is plantain farming profitable?thank you
Congratulation in advance. Ogbomoso is strategically located, because of very heavy vehicular and human traffic. Have lodged in an hotel in under G area around LAUTECH, and I enjoyed the fresh catfish barbeque from the hotel, which was always available every night. Good marketing skills will open opportunities for you. Sabo area also may be a good outlet. Carryout a market survey and you'll be surprised at the opportunities before you.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Cocoboms(m): 6:37pm On Feb 01, 2017
pls who knows who or where I can get live duckweed and azolla for propagation. i intend using it in feeding my fishes. I would appreciate it if anyone can give me audience. Thanks!
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Sirdik(m): 9:38pm On Feb 01, 2017
excelsiorfarm:
Who made you a failed fishfarmer? that it didn't work well initially,is to educate you that somethings wasn't done well,it might even be your fish seeds. So be encourage, the Truthful ones will tell you they had faced one challenge or the other from their expliots. For price keep 400,so as not to fear,the left over,you keep. Dont buy all your feed at once,buy in batches. Introduce aquapro & livestovit in your regime this time
tanks bro. Could u recommend medications incase the fishes become sick. N pls help wit info on how to reduce stress to the fingerlings during transportation.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 10:14pm On Feb 01, 2017
Sirdik:
tanks bro. Could u recommend medications incase the fishes become sick. N pls help wit info on how to reduce stress to the fingerlings during transportation.
first medication is clean water. Antibiotics eg fishcure etc.,but if you use aquapro,it could save you from most sickness provided water mgt is okay. Your breeder determines a lot if your fingerlings would be stressed or not. He should know feeding on day of transportation will cause disaster,especially on long journey. He should know that a few drops of palmoil would assist to prevent foaming that stress the fishes. He should know that the fishes going very long journey eg from lagos to maiduguri should undergo fasting like 2-3 days otherwise disaster looms. He should advice u not to feed your fish seeds immediately after arrival & when you are to introduce to ponds ,that u do gently because of shock etc.You can even decide to feed lightly on first day etc. Another initiative is to add fresh water at interval

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 1:45pm On Feb 02, 2017
@denziz,just post your question,or send to my direct mail.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by haleemwale(m): 5:32pm On Feb 02, 2017
@excelsiorfarm sir I have bn looking for the breakdown of d cost of raising fingerlings and juveniles to tablesize and melange on this thread since morning, I didn't find it but I know its here smwhere. Sir if u can please help me with the breakdown again I will really appreciate it. I know uve answered the question before, am sorry for bringing it up again.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by hadex90(m): 6:21pm On Feb 02, 2017
God bless all farmers in this forum...i've been following this post for a while now and i've undergone training during my NYSC last year but my boss only specialise in fingerlings production. reading this thread i've really gain alot i must confess....planning to start my farm soon...although i have lots of question but will be asking as times goes on. my question now is it necessary to give fries artemia or go straight to giving them 0.2. mind u my boss use daphnia on breeding if available and if not he just use 0.2
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 6:31pm On Feb 02, 2017
Ttalk:


It is possible to make profit.
3 fish of melange make one kg
300naira will feed 3fish that makes up 1kg
Therefore, 100naira will feed 1 fish to attain average of 350gram
For example 3000 melange will consume 300,000 naira for them to attain 1000kg @ average of 350gram per fish
150,000 @ average of 7,500 per bag will give you 20bags of floating feed that is 300kg of feed
150,000 naira for local feed of 600kg total feed equal 900kg
Total weight of 3000melange give 1000kg
1000kg X 600(current price of melange) gross profit 600,000 - 300,000 equal 300,000 net profit
(Note: The fish would attain average miinimum of 100gram each with floating feed)
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ABHAKS: 9:28pm On Feb 02, 2017
Good evening all please can one use local catfish caught in a river for spawning? They weigh 2kg male and female
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by vickifeanyi47(m): 1:15am On Feb 03, 2017
Any fish farmer around Umuahia,Abia state?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by kennysympathy(m): 11:15am On Feb 03, 2017
[quote author=Ttalk post=53359746][/quote]

There is no how you can get a uniform size.

You never thought of mortality rate. No mgt. Process will make you escape mortality.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 12:36pm On Feb 03, 2017
kennysympathy:


There is no how you can get a uniform size.

You never thought of mortality rate. No mgt. Process will make you escape mortality.


I quote my previous comment for haleemwale who is in need of feeding cost for melange.
Question of mortality should not arise because there should be provision for mortality for every stocking.
On sizes i used average in my estimation and management practise differ from farm to farm

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by vickifeanyi47(m): 1:13pm On Feb 03, 2017
Want to start small like say 200, how much will be required to raise them to table size?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 3:42pm On Feb 03, 2017
ABHAKS:
Good evening all please can one use local catfish caught in a river for spawning? They weigh 2kg male and female
if pregnant & fertile or matured. Just try to cross with the regular ones to get the best characteristics from both produce in your offspring. But try to disinfect because they could have lot of germs that could easily be transfer to your fries. When i was in benin sometime ago to train a nairalander,after his complain that all the broodstock he purchase was giving no result,i asked him to take me to their market that i will show him something,we bought some fishes i selected & use to hatch. The lesson is all fishes,fertile & mature will produce,performance will be on the genetics of the parent stock i.e. the male & the female use in bréeding with mgt.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 3:49pm On Feb 03, 2017
fordex3:
Call Aquabiz & Agric Enterprises for your Fingerlings & Juveniles,we sell day-old chicks,broilers-130 naira,pullets(layers)-200 naira,hybrid turkey-1,700 naira,local turkey-600 naira,white cockrels-25 naira,black cockrels-100 naira,Noilers - 100 naira,4 weeks broilers-550 naira,4 weeks cockrel-250 naira,point of lay -16 weeks-1,250 naira,old layers-1,300 naira,battery cages -120,000 to 150,000 naira,catfish fingerlings -12 naira,catfish Juveniles -22 naira,Oven-dried catfish (200 grams) -1 pack -1,200 naira,Mobile ponds -120,000 naira,Fish-booster -1000 naira,Vitamin A fortified yellow cassava stem-50 pieces-700 naira,1 bundle-1,500 naira,Herbicides,weedout,sprayers -8 litres and 16 litres also availablie.We provide transport and logistics for point of lays and old layers,we are in Ibadan and supply anywhere in Nigeria.
Area in ibadan
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 4:03pm On Feb 03, 2017
haleemwale:
@excelsiorfarm sir I have bn looking for the breakdown of d cost of raising fingerlings and juveniles to tablesize and melange on this thread since morning, I didn't find it but I know its here smwhere. Sir if u can please help me with the breakdown again I will really appreciate it. I know uve answered the question before, am sorry for bringing it up again.
no need to apologize, just keep 400-450 at least for your table size, depends on location,could be less if sound mgt & for melange,keep 60% of that. Even price are changing,due to changing economic parameters. Just start reasonably if a fresher & endeavor to study someone before you think you can do it. In agriculture 1+1= 2 or 1+1= 3.5 or 1+1= - 2, which of the above is based on management,technicalities or available funds

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by hadex90(m): 4:33pm On Feb 03, 2017
hadex90:
God bless all farmers in this forum...i've been following this post for a while now and i've undergone training during my NYSC last year but my boss only specialise in fingerlings production. reading this thread i've really gain alot i must confess....planning to start my farm soon...although i have lots of question but will be asking as times goes on. my question now is it necessary to give fries artemia or go straight to giving them 0.2. mind u my boss use daphnia on breeding if available and if not he just use 0.2
someone should please help me with this question
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 5:28pm On Feb 03, 2017
hadex90:
someone should please help me with this question
maybe you scare some with your question,because you said your oga use 0.2 at times. Now let me give you an answer we all know. Diaphnia is great,if you can lay your hands on it,unlike feed,it doesn't pollute water & has a high water content with protein that fries could easily digest. For artemia,it also fall into that category,but it is dry matter as your 0.2 feed. If original,also not overfed, your fries could perform on it & one challenge about 0.2 is if you dont verify expire date,some are expired. You can do 0.2 straight if you manage feeding well. Interest you to know that you could use egg white or baby milk & depending on growth response,i personally dont wait on sizes,at times 10-14 days artemia,then 0.5. So my brother,people are busy,maybe join agricnetwork or those in whatsapp group if your answer delays

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by hadex90(m): 5:36pm On Feb 03, 2017
excelsiorfarm:
maybe you scare some with your question,because you said your oga use 0.2 at times. Now let me give you an answer will all know. Diaphnia is great,if you can lay your hands on it,unlike feed,it doesn't pollute water & has a high water content with protein that fries could easily digest. For artemia,it also fall into that category,but it is dry matter as your 0.2 feed. If original,also not overfed, your fries could perform on it & one challenge about 0.2 is if you dont verify expire date,some are expired. You can do 0.2 straight if you manage feeding well. Interest you to know that you could use egg white or baby milk & depending on growth response,i personally dont wait on sizes,at times 10-14 days artemia,then 0.5. So my brother,people are busy,maybe join agricnetwork or those in whatsapp group if your answer delays
thanks boss...really appreciate. the egg white how is it used? squeezed to little fragment?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 7:25pm On Feb 03, 2017
hadex90:
thanks boss...really appreciate. the egg white how is it used? squeezed to little fragment?
focus on the simple ones,always good to master one before stepping for alternatives. for now daphnia,artemia & 0.2 is much to work on. When you master that, if all is lacking,then the baby milk or egg white comes handy. As i had stated earlier,build on your experience,acquiring all knowledge,can complicate your mgt practice.

less it skip my mind,iam not your boss.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by hadex90(m): 7:47pm On Feb 03, 2017
excelsiorfarm:
focus on the simple ones,always good to master one before stepping for alternatives. for now daphnia,artemia & 0.2 is much to work on. When you master that, if all is lacking,then the baby milk or egg white comes handy. As i had stated earlier,build on your experience,acquiring all knowledge,can complicate your mgt practice.

less it skip my mind,iam not your boss.
Noted. thanks very very much. God bless
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by excelsiorfarm(m): 8:05pm On Feb 03, 2017
hadex90:
Noted. thanks very very much. God bless
Amen & God Bless you sir

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