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Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by Eddygourdo(m): 7:34am On Feb 02, 2017 |
Protests are absolutely lovely and noble pursuits. Every free world must be able to exercise those rights. Yet the question to be asked will be, what are the deliverables expected from the protest action? When we march out on the street, do we just keep screaming "we are suffering", "buhari must die" , "hunger full area". Then when we are done we return to our homes exhausted with no demands or counter proposals made ? We want the youths to take back this country, but I thought the route to power is a politcal one not a protes. How is this different from all the meaningless ipob protests that we observed. Which resulted in the death and injury of many, yet nothing was achieved. ASUU strike and protest have an agende of deliverables, same applies to fuel protests, and every other protest ever done on planet earth asides the IPOB protest anyway. Anything based on emotion is an unintelligent way of pursuing any goal. And in my honest opinion. I have every doubt to assume 2baba is being paid by some unscropulous politicians who are up to no good. Nevertheless we are truly suffering, nigeria's economy is abysmal, the unemployment rate is shameful as well as too many ills. We need a mental revolution with youths creating concrete methods of taking over from all these analog leaders at the next poll. Not just wasting our useful energy parading the strrets in high tones like barbarians. Thank you |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by cobadit(m): 7:37am On Feb 02, 2017 |
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Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by AceRoyal: 7:41am On Feb 02, 2017 |
Eddygourdo: Trashy post! Even in the US protests are currently going on. I support the protest,the revolution must start from somewhere and this is a good start. Its obvious you are also a big part of this Country's problem. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by Spicylate(f): 7:43am On Feb 02, 2017 |
I see sense in what you've written. The aftermath is what we are both interested in. Well I hope during the protest, a rep of the presidency will address us or have a discussion with one of our leaders. We just want to the know the 411. 1 Like |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by Zeddicuz(m): 7:50am On Feb 02, 2017 |
The right to protest is enshrined in the constitution,dis vovt is not working,nd nigerians are suffering.wen Gej was in power,Nigerians protested all over d nation over d subsidy issue,op didnt complain den.Buhari is a failure,enough is enough 3 Likes |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by zendy: 7:58am On Feb 02, 2017 |
The way the average Nigerian thinks is shocking, like a person who lives in a cave. The constitution allows freedom of movement and expression. People do not need police permission to hold a rally. 2Face and friends have every right to protest whatever they want same as IPOB has the right to rally for Donald Trump. 6 Likes |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by Eddygourdo(m): 8:04am On Feb 02, 2017 |
Zeddicuz:you are suffering, blah blah. What are the demands u have from the protest action. Dat you stop suffering ? Or dat buhari should resign. What are the concrete demands the protesters are making. So we know what solutions will acrrue from the action. Learn to read with understanding |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by Eddygourdo(m): 8:06am On Feb 02, 2017 |
zendy:learn to read with understanding. Nobody is questioning ur rights to protest. But any meaning protest msut hve an agenda else its deemed a societal nuisance. The fuel subsidy protest had a demand that subsidy must not be removed and a middle ground was found. What is the current demand and possible middle ground of this planned protest is my question. And not the rights to protest . Na wa |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by Nobody: 8:06am On Feb 02, 2017 |
Zeddicuz:Op is an hypocrite |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by Eddygourdo(m): 8:10am On Feb 02, 2017 |
Spicylate:what are the current demands from the protesters. We must protest for something concrete like open our borders, implement the budget to 60percent, don't take foreign loans , don't do this or do that. Not an emotional "we are suffering". What is govt's possible response to such. Except sorry. We don't need emotional struggles but objective ones. Cos hunger is an objective problem which demands same solution |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by Eddygourdo(m): 8:11am On Feb 02, 2017 |
AceRoyal:you are an olodo. So wwont bother with u. Read the message with understanding before commenting. Will help ur arguement |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by AceRoyal: 8:20am On Feb 02, 2017 |
Eddygourdo:You are trying so hard to sound smart but I can see beyond that. How can u take over politically from these old men that have all the financial, economical and political strength that you or any other youth don't possess at the moment. Even those that do are loyal godsons to them. The best way to tackle them is build a strong base of common people who share the same ideology and national interest at heart.And this protest is a good start. You want to sound intelligent on paper and maybe write stuff to gain likes here but forget that in theory,its mission impossible. I won't stoop so low to banter words with you because its obvious you are very politically myopic. I support the protest 100%,its a good start towards political revolution! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by DelGardo: 8:21am On Feb 02, 2017 |
Still waiting for the protesters and advocates to tell us what the government should do differently. Buhari came in when oil price had dropped to the lowest level in years and has taken the following steps, which every well-meaning person should support: - Removed subsidy to eradicate corruption and allow market forces to allocate resources in that sector in a controlled manner. - Bailed out bankrupt states to pay salary backlog to alleviate harship and increase demand - focus on diversification away from oil. This has yielded increased non-oil revenue and produced the larget budget (in naira terms) ever - zero based budget introduced with continuous improvement in planning so we can see clearly , link between various decision across the economic spectrum beyond one year - reduced corruption at the federal level through TSA etc to ensure structured funds management - improved transparency in the oil sector: NNPC now produce reports of performance. First time in decades - Cost cutting measures introduced: he took a pay cut with the VP, sustained eradication of ghost workers (people like Sambo) , rationalised the presidential air fleet to save money, has been putting the Nigeria House to good use (eg other presidents stay in 5-star hotels when they travel), has not bought additional cars for personal use, reduced number of ministers and aides etc - investing in social safety nets for the poor and unemployed; eg home grown feeding program, conditional cash transfers, solar power for homes, youth empowerment programs (N-power) etc - increased allocation to capital projects : more rail projects than any other time in our history with every region covered, new Niger bridge etc - improved focus on agriculture; local rice production up by over 800% and program to improve other areas on course. We are now seeing improvements in foreign reserve in low oil environment! - general improvement in local production base, which should enhance employment in the near term (people want government to employ them yet they ask him to improve exchange rate regime to N150/$ in order to continue mindless importation, how will that improve employment?) I can go on and on... we need to give the federal govt a chance, criticise constructively and vote them out after four years if we so desire. People should also hold there state governors responsible for not doing enough. Buhari can improve in a lot of areas. But he is making the right moves in the key areas. |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by AceRoyal: 8:25am On Feb 02, 2017 |
Eddygourdo:You got a point but still don't get the big picture. Not every one things like you,no everyone is educated to think objectively. Hunger knows no objectivity. "We are suffering" is the common man's language of telling the government to be more objective,sincere,patriotic and proactive in its approach to governance. Ask yourself, why is this government so afraid of this protest? its obvious they care more about their image than good governance. So hit them where it hurts most! 1 Like |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by zendy: 8:29am On Feb 02, 2017 |
Eddygourdo: So bro, you have it twisted. No protest needs to have an agenda. It doesnt even have to have a meaningful agenda and being a nuisance doesnt mean anything as long as it is allowed under the law. Its a bit hard for some people to understand that the constitution allows us the right to protest for no reason. |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by AceRoyal: 8:40am On Feb 02, 2017 |
DelGardo: *Is subsidy not been paid indirectly by these government? * U call investing billions of naira looking for oil in the chad basin diversification?was the 2016 budget fully and well implemented? *Zero based budget with lots of padding and all? * NNPC transparent? Joke! * Social safety net with lots of holes as a result of massive corruption and scandals. *Allocation on capital projects with a heavily padded budget. *Cost cutting measures with frequent medical tourism,inflated budget to run the state house,illegal contacts(grass cutting scandal),etc. *Local product rate decrease due to poor and unstable economic policies and forex to import materials needed for production. I can go and on but let me leave you to your conscience! 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by Eddygourdo(m): 8:41am On Feb 02, 2017 |
AceRoyal:yet ur struggling to sound same on paper. Now let reality speaak for itself. You will protest, you will be gunned down or ignored. Your suffering will continue and hopefully you will then have sense. Since you can't see the sense yet in a futile pursuit. Plus I know me, you don't know me, whether I am sound or trying to appear sound shouldn't threaten you at all. Cos its not ur soundness. Goodday |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by Eddygourdo(m): 8:45am On Feb 02, 2017 |
zendy:oh then by all means protest. While serious people keep hustling. Especially as you have a lot of time for agenda less gatherings in the name of protests. And yet don't see the silliness in that line of arguement. |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by SalamRushdie: 8:45am On Feb 02, 2017 |
Eddygourdo: The only person upto no good in Nigeria is Buhari , he has betrayed the mandate he was given by not taking his job seriously . 3 Likes |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by Eddygourdo(m): 8:47am On Feb 02, 2017 |
SalamRushdie:agreed, wht should we do, protest ? Ok agreed. What should be our demands wwhile protesting asides pointing out the obvious that buhari is a useless leader. Thaats the question my entire thread is all about. The protest mys have concrete agendas |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by SalamRushdie: 8:53am On Feb 02, 2017 |
Eddygourdo: It shows the protesters still beleive in Buhari (I don't) and think he isn't being told the truth by his aides thus the need for a massive rally that would jolt him in to performing ..let look at the rally like a 3d ope letter |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by dayod247(m): 9:19am On Feb 02, 2017 |
This is why it's difficult to get positive results. Everyone with their own opinion, yet it's obvious everyone is suffering. Some people just like to pick up phone and type of rubbish with no fact. Every protest has an objective, no one just hit the streets without having an issue they want resolved. Only a mad man will hit the streets without having a plan. It's obvious that the policies of this current government are useless, yes we don't expect change over night but when you look at the way they keep changing the policies you start to wonder if these people really have a plan for Nigeria. As for me the 2face rally is a good way to start, enough talks and social media propaganda, let this people know that we are serious. Some people are busy criticizing the motive yet they can't afford 3 square meal per day. If only 30% of the Nigeria population can support and be in this rally. PMB already said change begins with us. Let's show him that change. 1 Like |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by DelGardo: 11:10am On Feb 02, 2017 |
AceRoyal:Please provide evidence that importers are still receiving direct payments. Fuel price is being managed to reduce inflationary pressures if left completely to market forces. You will likely be the first to complain if fuel price goes to N500/ltr AceRoyal:Yes I call it diversification (please look up the word in the dictionary). Government will still need to raise dollar revenues in order to implement the budget and also improve foreign reserves for international settlement. One thing we can export readily is oil so every effort to improve that is not something you should protest against. The budget implementation report is out. I encourage you to read it. Some of the plans were not achieved mostly due to lower oil production. So getting oil from outside the volatile traditional centers (Niger Delta) is critical to implementing the budget AceRoyal: Padding has been a feature of all previous administrations. Why didn't you protest despite numerous budget illegalities of Goodluck administration? Most of us became aware of padding when Buhari refused to sign the illegal insertions by the NA, not because we were smarter now than before. He went further to punish the civil servants involved and the House did nothing. So you want to protest against him for standing up to the problem? We have also seen improvements in 2017 budget, so what's really the issue? AceRoyal:You are entitled to your opinion. If you see quarterly reports as a step backwards and you prefer, instead, the type of oil sector management of Dieziani and co I can only feel sorry for you, pal. AceRoyal:Please show us evidence of scandals if you have any because I cannot remember any for now. I also encourage you to use the whistle blowing facility to help improve the process. It is your civic duty to do so! As per the flaws, if any, proper criticism will help the managers of the process to improve and make it better for recipients. You may also study the UK benefit system to understand that it cannot be perfect. But, really, is that why you want to protest? AceRoyal:See the point above. In any case I don't want to believe that you prefer more recurrent spending of GEJ administration that left us with near zero infrastructure. Yet you want more power and development. AceRoyal: Buhari has only travelled twice in two years for vacation cum medical attention... you call that frequent? Na wah. Only yesterday a very young son of a former minister in Jonathan's government was reported to have spent over N1b in cash on choice properties. Where were you and your sanctimonious gang when his father "dashed" him that money? You want to talk about a N250m contract that was duly awarded but for which there is suspicion of un-ethical practice? As in.. are we looking at the same scale of corruption? is that why you want to demonstrate? AceRoyal:You are right in a way. But we also need to deepen local production. Uncontrolled importation will not enhance that... in fact it will only worsen the forex and employment situation. Besides where is them money to import all we want? Look at all the oil producing countries; they are in a terrible shape. Venezuelan economy has crumbled. You need to appreciate the sh*t we are in. The pains of manufacturers who need raw materials are being addressed from what I can see and should improve now that foreign reserves are improving. Most commentators just want money to travel or for selfish reasons, which shouldn't be encouraged in a low reserve environment. That's proper economic management... not something to protest over. AceRoyal:I have no connection with this government or the one before it. I also understand the pains and frustrations because we are all facing the same challenges. Instead of whining I have devoted my energy on how to exploit the opportunities I see... trust me they are many. Please do the same |
Re: Why 2baba And His Cronies Are The Problem With Nigeria by azimibraun: 6:00pm On Feb 02, 2017 |
Spicylate:It's going to be total wash down. I hope government manages these well and come out to address the protesters. They will end up in shame an apologise to the government. Government is so complex nd manging it is complex nd monitoring the activities policies and programmes of government requires painstaking attention. I asked that 2baba demands a town hall meeting but people are deceiving him a protest is better. By the the time the federal government is done explaining what it hs been doing in the last 1yr plus in the various sectors and tiers 2baba and co. Will end up saying sorry sir. Let's watch and see. Am so sure because I know one thing for sure. Government is detailed but Nigerian youths in majority are not. It's the details and expected results from the actions of government that will form the sucker punch. |
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