BlackBaron:
I'm wondering why you lots allow for conversations with terrorist or terrorist apologists.
In other countries, you'd have all become under surveillance for even attempting to talk online with him.

People here gloating over the defeat of a national army fighting evil should not be here and defeat the purpose of this thread.

bendeniceguy:
Goverments all across Africa must realise that these animals are in this for the long hurl and quit pretending that groups like al shabaab an boko haram will go away by themselves!!! These animals view Africa as easy prey and wont give up until they are overwhelmed by superior force. Methinks the AU should pass a law making it compulsory for African countries to spend atleast 5percent of their GDPs on re-arming and re-equiping their militaries to defend the continent against these wild animals. This is not "gloating" This is REAL. We must quit hoping to fight murderous religious extremist on the cheap

bendeniceguy:
Goverments all across Africa must realise that these animals are in this for the long hurl and quit pretending that groups like al shabaab an boko haram will go away by themselves!!! These animals view Africa as easy prey and wont give up until they are overwhelmed by superior force. Methinks the AU should pass a law making it compulsory for African countries to spend atleast 5percent of their GDPs on re-arming and re-equiping their militaries to defend the continent against these wild animals. This is not "gloating" This is REAL. We must quit hoping to fight murderous religious extremist on the cheap

bendeniceguy:
Here is the link shared by Eeben Barlow on facebook. https://www.funker530.com/brutal-al-shabaab-raid-wipes-entire-kenyan-army-unit/ F..K al shabaab. May they roast in HELL

ActivateKruger:


Make it compulsory? There's no law under the sun that can make such things compulsory unless the AU could magically fund it to all its members.

Egyptian air force wing loong UAV's in Bir Gifgafa/al-Meliz air strip ,Sinai

bendeniceguy:
There is a first time for everything. These murderers are already established in North, West, East and Central Africa and are gradually pushing Southwards!! Hoping they go away or fighting them on the cheap is not an option. If the AU cant see or smell the imminent danger of having these a..holes overrunning the continent at this rate, then they (AU) should be disbanded and their responsibilities handed over to to the UN or even better still, to Mr Trump. This is a clear and present danger they cant ignore. Most African countries are too vulnerable to allow these murderous extremists dig-in or fester on for much longer without the AU trying at the very least to rally everybody to the fight. A word they say is enough for the wise.

Henry24o:


Jesus Christ!!

Man, why are you sharing this video here now, it is not nice at all, it is morally insensitive. You are helping these terrorists distribute their propaganda, which is completely wrong. This is not a terrorist propaganda thread, it is an African Militaries photos and video thread. I'm not pleased with you at all, everyone who wants to see the video knows we're to get it from.

We do not share terrorist propaganda videos here. Please don't post terrorist content in this thread. >:

ActivateKruger:


Terror and all kinds of insurgencies are intelligence not military issues. When a country has homegrown terrorism issues it simply means they have no solid intelligence institutions.

As for Al-Shabab, they can't go beyond Kenya. Southern Africa is a different region. Islam is rare and state intelligence is on a different level.

ActivateKruger:


Terror and all kinds of insurgencies are intelligence not military issues. When a country has homegrown terrorism issues it simply means they have no solid intelligence institutions.

As for Al-Shabab, they can't go beyond Kenya. Southern Africa is a different region. Islam is rare and state intelligence is on a different level.

UAE Mirage 2000s bound for Libya? Big expansion work being done at Al Kadhim airfield.

Henry24o:


Jesus Christ!!

Man, why are you sharing this video here now, it is not nice at all, it is morally insensitive. You are helping these terrorists distribute their propaganda, which is completely wrong. This is not a terrorist propaganda thread, it is an African Militaries photos and video thread. I'm not pleased with you at all, everyone who wants to see the video knows we're to get it from.

We do not share terrorist propaganda videos here. Please don't post terrorist content in this thread. >:

bendeniceguy:
My brother Henry, i am not in the business of sharing terrorists propaganda videos or such things. i only posted a link for those who might want to see what these low-lives are capable of. Its your prerogative to click the link or not. I understand you though and will not post something like this anymore. All the same, i am pissed that these killers are capable of doing this to an African army. I am mad and you should be too for what they did to those soldiers

bendeniceguy:
Goverments all across Africa must realise that these animals are in this for the long hurl and quit pretending that groups like al shabaab an boko haram will go away by themselves!!! These animals view Africa as easy prey and wont give up until they are overwhelmed by superior force. Methinks the AU should pass a law making it compulsory for African countries to spend atleast 5percent of their GDPs on re-arming and re-equiping their militaries to defend the continent against these wild animals. This is not "gloating" This is REAL. We must quit hoping to fight murderous religious extremist on the cheap

darknetcom:


the europeans are making fun over us in their comments..

no reasonable standing army in africa..??..

henry..i tell you,its time will put all african nations toghether and create a single african mind...

we are too separated.....

i realy wonder were all this terrorits are getting their fire power and infos...

some of us know from were,but no black person dares to realy say it out loud...

Henry24o:


I'm completely sick to my stomach. I had seen the video earlier on, and i could not believe what i saw. These terrorists are taking our militaries seriously, yet it seems we are still engaging them with kids gloves.

I'm not happy with the KDF, faced with overwhelming force they could have retreated a long while ago.

Henry24o:

The base seemed well fortified but it completely fell.

Henry24o:

2 APCs and no defence. Those terrorists moved across open fields for atleast 200 meters, the Oto melera's should have been employed.

Henry24o:

I don't understand why, faced with 14.5mm's, the Kenyans still hull around with 7.62 MG's. The Nigerian army learnt this the hard way. Faced with superior arms, you also have to be prepared to respond with equally superior firepower.

Henry24o:

The guys on guard duty were basically sleeping. 2 guys for 2 hour shifts, should have kept everyone alert.

Henry24o:

African armies need to go back and critically look at the trainings received to deal with asymmetrical contacts with the enemy such as these.

Why did the KDF not retreat, there was not a proper response, the big guns weren't firing, the APCs, weren't firing, the Oto melera wasn't also firing, so why not basically flee, re-group and counter-attack. At least, that's what the video showed.

Henry24o:


I'm completely sick to my stomach. I had seen the video earlier on, and i could not believe what i saw. These terrorists are taking our militaries seriously, yet it seems we are still engaging them with kids gloves.

I'm not happy with the KDF, faced with overwhelming force they could have retreated a long while ago. The base seemed well fortified but it completely fell. 2 APCs and no defence. Those terrorists moved across open fields for atleast 200 meters, the Oto melera's should have been employed. I don't understand why, faced with 14.5mm's, the Kenyans still hull around with 7.62 MG's. The Nigerian army learnt this the hard way. Faced with superior arms, you also have to be prepared to respond with equally superior firepower.

The guys on guard duty were basically sleeping. 2 guys for 2 hour shifts, should have kept everyone alert.

African armies need to go back and critically look at the trainings received to deal with asymmetrical contacts with the enemy such as these.

Why did the KDF not retreat, there was not a proper response, the big guns weren't firing, the APCs, weren't firing, the Oto melera wasn't also firing, so why not basically flee, re-group and counter-attack. At least, that's what the video showed.

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXcawTuSrbc

africaken254:
the video posted was of the eladde attack...

Patchesagain:


Read the link in the story, the attack was the result of poor inteligence. The KDF guys who got wiped out were from a unit replacing another... the unit leaving didnt full them in on the situation properly.

Patchesagain:

Actually, it was poorly fortified. Long lines of defense, with isolated firing positions.

If you watch the video you cant those faggits from AS breaching parts of the perimiter, isolating pockets of resistance and then bringing heavy weapons on technicals to silence them.

Shorter lines, bigger fortifications and no indirect fire support.

Patchesagain:
Problem is that they just didnt use their APC's at all.

They didnt laager them properly

Look at Pics of NATO bases in Afghanistan, they keep their APC's around the outskirts of their bases and there are little ramps all over the place on the inside of the defences... its so vehicles can drive up the ramp, fire, drive off the ramp and move to a new ramp to repeat the process.

Very important.

Patchesagain:

7.62 is very effective at those sorts of ranges.

7.62 rate of fire > 12.5 rate of fire

When you can sling more lead, you have fire-superiority.
When you have fire superiority you can supress your enemy
When your enemy is supressed he is fixed
When he is fixed, you can destroy him

Patchesagain:
Also, I cant at least 2 Panhard AML's... those 90mm would have wrecked AS if used properly.

Mortars would have won that battle



I think its silly to talk about duty rosters when we have no idea how many men they had inside the base.

Patchesagain:
Mortars, most African nations dont use enough mortars, or lager their vehicles (even the Germans did that in WW2 - see: Hedgehog formation)

I dont want to be arrogant, but y'all need to study what the old SADF did during the war in Angola. The major battles are irrelevant, a set-peice battle is a set-peice battle. But the practices employed by our mechanised formations when operating in Angola... those are perfect for Africa.

africaken254:
check out this china army outpost mali,even the APC has a ramp to enable it to fire from within the outpost,raised observation towers to spot the enemy as he is coming .every platoon leader has a hand held radio to ease intercommunication within the outpost (also helping in directing mortar and light howitzers indirect fire ) even if you attack this out post with ZU-23mm anti-aircraft gun it will be useless

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXcawTuSrbc

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImueUuQxDc8

africaken254:
kenya need to improve its outpost hesco outpost wall(increase its height ,so that nobody outside can see inside),then acquire ZU-23,ZPU-2/4 (which should be located around the corners of the outpost

frumentius:


Might be El Adde, but judging by the Kulbiyow pics, the KDF didn't learn anything. Hell, it's even the same kebab unit!

africaken254:
there is going to be a exclusive news report by kenyan tv channel tonight,about the Kulbiyow combat outpost attack .a local journalist was flown to the outpost ,so that KDF can give their side of the story