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Having an open receptive mind towards learning, curiosity and thirst to know is the key towards becoming better intellectually

johnydon22:


Being an atheist doesn't make anyone more intelligent than others anymore than being theistic makes you less so.

akintom:

The higher intelligence of non-believers was attributed by researchers to a greater propensity to seek education and higher employment, when available, thus assuming more personal control over their direction in life. "Intelligent people typically spend more time in school — a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits," Zuckerman wrote. "More intelligent people get higher level jobs and better employment may lead to higher self-esteem, and encourage personal control beliefs."

GoodMuyis:



Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. - I Timothy 4:13

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth - II Timothy 2:15

Seest thou a man diligent in his business? he shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men - Proverbs 22:29

I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation - Psalms 119:99




Human are not intelligent than each other but those who found and use the created element for human development are genius (goodmuyis 2017)

randomperson:


But these people are not intelligent because they are atheists, they are atheists because they are intelligent

randomperson:

Scientific experiments have shown that on an average, atheists are more intelligent than theists... That's the fact, and nothing we can do about it. But these people are not intelligent because they are atheists, they are atheists because they are intelligent

GoodMuyis:


scientific proposition is not absolute, some are later being made incorrect.

Atheist being intelligent than their religious counterpart is a fallacy. Even Bible made it clear, that when you give yourself to studying you will be intelligent.

I think you guys (atheist) should realized that religion is a culture, a way of life, and their are different kind of its culture. what you practices doesn't make you intelligent, but rather what you study.

Here is my quote again?

Human are not intelligent than each other but those who found and use the created element for human development are genius (goodmuyis 2017)

Being intelligent is not about how many question you have answers to BUT how many problem you have solution to... Einstein was not tag genius because he uses google to answer questions, he solve problems

randomperson:

Hmmm, where do I start from?
Humans are more intelligent than each other. Intelligence is a human attribute. So if a person can be stronger, bolder, faster, quieter than another, why can't a person be more intelligent than another.
There is scientific proof that atheists are more intelligent than the religious. Your comment above does nothing to challenge that

akintom:

SCIENCE/TECH

Proved: Atheists More Intelligent Than Religious People

Aug 19, 2013 01:28 PMBy Matthew Mientka

A review of scientific studies finds that people who hold a more naturalistic view of the world are generally smarter than those who believe in god.

In an analysis of 63 studies conducted since 1928, a researcher at the University of Rochester found “a reliable negative relation between intelligence and religiosity” in 53 of the studies. While 10 of the studies showed a positive correlation, only two of them showed a significant link.

Thirty-five of the studies, however, showed a significantly negative correlation between intelligence and religiosity, according to researcher Miron Zuckerman.

"Most extant explanations [of a negative relation] share one central theme —the premise that religious beliefs are irrational, not anchored in science, not testable and, therefore, unappealing to intelligent people who 'know better,’” Zuckerman wrote in a paper published this month.

Zuckerman and two other psychologists reviewing the literature defined intelligence as the “ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly, and learn experience.” Religiosity is defined by psychologists as participation in some facets of worship, which might range from passive attendance at weekly services to the sort of messianic fervor depicted in Robert Duvall’s 1997 film The Apostle.

Other factors such as sex or education made no difference in the correlation between intelligence and religiosity, although some variance was seen with age. The association of lower intelligence with religiousness was weakest among teenagers in the “pre-college population,” however.

Yet, a lifelong association between higher intelligence and atheism, or naturalistic worldview, remains constant in a continuing study — begun in 1928 — of 1,500 gifted children with intelligence quotients (IQs) over 135. Even in extreme old age and closer to death (and some would say God), these children remained steady in their beliefs, or non-belief.

The higher intelligence of non-believers was attributed by researchers to a greater propensity to seek education and higher employment, when available, thus assuming more personal control over their direction in life. "Intelligent people typically spend more time in school — a form of self-regulation that may yield long-term benefits," Zuckerman wrote. "More intelligent people get higher level jobs and better employment may lead to higher self-esteem, and encourage personal control beliefs."

Defenders of religious belief contend the psychologists define intelligence too narrowly as analytical ability, omitting such aptitudes as emotional and creative intelligence among other aspects of multiple intelligence theory — and certainly wisdom remains an ineffable quality, slipping just out of grasp.

Although many evangelical Americans might be surprised to learn of a more deist tradition among the Founding Fathers, the nation’s religious may cite at least one notable exception to the study’s conclusion: Albert Einstein.



Source: Zuckerman M. The Relationship Between Intelligence And Religiosity: A Meta-Analysis And Some Proposed Explanations. Personality And Social Psychology Review. 2013.

Farmerforlife:


The study was obviously carried out on christians. I think your headline should be "Atheists more intelligent than Religious Christians". Accuracy is essential. In any case, the whole study and its results are suspect.

randomperson:

Why do you say so?

Farmerforlife:


Because that is not how science works. There is no possible methodology to this kind of study that one cannot pick big holes in. The atheists themselves would not have accepted the study had a reverse result been obtained. Just shows that atheists have blind faith too, but only in their own designated 'prophets'.

Farmerforlife:


Because that is not how science works. There is no possible methodology to this kind of study that one cannot pick big holes in. The atheists themselves would not have accepted the study had a reverse result been obtained. Just shows that atheists have blind faith too, but only in their own designated 'prophets'.

randomperson:

Hmmm, where do I start from?
Humans are more intelligent than each other. Intelligence is a human attribute. So if a person can be stronger, bolder, faster, quieter than another, why can't a person be more intelligent than another.
There is scientific proof that atheists are more intelligent than the religious. Your comment above does nothing to challenge that

randomperson:

I actually thought u wanted to critic the research based on methodology, parameters, sample size or some other actual ground for reasonable objection... But all I see is just unwillingness to accept the result because it's unfavorable to you
There are ways of measuring intelligence which though not perfect are consistent, reliable and practical... And there was a significant difference or distinction between the results of atheists and theists.
If u have another explanation for the difference between the results for the different groups, then let's hear it

Farmerforlife:


Did you post the methodology, parameters, sample size, or other actual evidence? Was the study peer reviewed? Would you have accepted this particular study if it had shown the opposite, that religious people are more intelligent than atheists? Apply your objective mind to how you would have rejected it in that case, and merely look at it from that angle.

I notice that atheists throw out their self-vaunted objectivity and love for cutting evidence the moment that they see something that they really want to believe. The onus is on you to prove that the study is scientifically sound, because from what I read after a google search, it is just one of those a dozen a penny assertions. Let us have the full text of the research please.

Farmerforlife:


Did you post the methodology, parameters, sample size, or other actual evidence? Was the study peer reviewed? Would you have accepted this particular study if it had shown the opposite, that religious people are more intelligent than atheists? Apply your objective mind to how you would have rejected it in that case, and merely look at it from that angle.

I notice that atheists throw out their self-vaunted objectivity and love for cutting evidence the moment that they see something that they really want to believe. The onus is on you to prove that the study is scientifically sound, because from what I read after a google search, it is just one of those a dozen a penny assertions. Let us have the full text of the research please.

akintom:


Subjecting these studies to the stringent measures of the scientific works, will drag this debate to the analysis that will not be of any benefit to the audience.

But here's the thrust of the study;

Are the religious folks more INTELLIGENTLY adapted to life experiences than the atheists?

Farmerforlife:


Personally, I feel more balanced in my life on the whole than many atheists I have met. .

Farmerforlife:

were we to generalise, you will agree with me that any scientific research attempted on this topic would be totally meaningless. .

Farmerforlife:

The factors that affect 'intelligence' are hardly understood,
.