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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:43am On Feb 09, 2017 |
joseph1013: Mikel is on the list because he consistently won for his club and when it came to the country, he consistently performed at a top level. From our qualifiers, to AFCON, to the CONFEDS and even the Olympics. Even in our current qualifiers, he is still one of our top performers. As tbaba1234 rightly put it, anyone lasted as long as Mikel at Chelsea in a flamboyant role will definitely be recognized as World Class. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:47am On Feb 09, 2017 |
Wilfred Ndidi's goal against Derby County in the FA Cup. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htRTejkxJik 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:09am On Feb 09, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: I think this is a great response: edi287: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:23am On Feb 09, 2017 |
edi287: The question is what do you consider as playing at his peak. When it came to shielding the defence, they were very few that could compare to Mikel and he stayed at that level for a long time. John Obi Mikel reborn as Chelsea's undisputed pass master Who is the best passer in the Premier League? John Obi Mikel? Over the last three seasons Chelsea’s holding midfielder has a higher pass-completion ratio than any other player in the top flight (89.93 per cent — Paul Scholes is second with 89.88). http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/8130025/John-Obi-Mikel-reborn-as-Chelseas-undisputed-pass-master.html That is over three seasons. The only thing is that people underrate Mikel's role in Chelsea's successful reign but he was a big factor in their success. Did that consistently for a long time. Made them tick and thick at the back. ENGINE. If someone plays consistently at a top level, giving top performances, what other level should he reach? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:25am On Feb 09, 2017 |
joseph1013: Great response is, never reach World Class at his peak? What is the World Class, if performing consistently at a top level for a long time is not World Class? It is just that Mikel did not play a flamboyant role. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:28am On Feb 09, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Some of the players on my list are not flamboyant. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:29am On Feb 09, 2017 |
joseph1013: Mikel is not recognized at Chelsea because he did not play a Flamboyant role. Please, who on your list did not play a flamboyant role at Chelsea? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:30am On Feb 09, 2017 |
joseph1013: And please, Ngolo Kante is not World Class. He just started his career. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:31am On Feb 09, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Why Chelsea? How many Chelsea players are on the list? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:32am On Feb 09, 2017 |
joseph1013: That is the point. Then add to not playing a flamboyant role. That is why Mikel's great contribution is not recognized. If Mikel did what he did at Barcelona, he would be highly rated. 5 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:35am On Feb 09, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: That may be true. I can agree with that. There are many very good players that are not on my list. The decision on Mikel is not personal. Players like Jordi Alba, Pepe, Pique, Ivan Rakitic, Mesut Özil, Toni Kroos, Kevin de Bruyne, Gareth Bale, Kroos, Xabi Alonso, Alexis Sanches, David Silva, Thomas Müller are not on the list. No one can argue that these ones are great players, even legends, like Mikel. But are they World Class? I will disagree. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:38am On Feb 09, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: That's not a good point. Makelele was World Class when he played for Chelsea, yet he was not flamboyant. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:43am On Feb 09, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:Let's say from 07 - 13...would you put Mikel in the Top 10 CM/DM?? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:45am On Feb 09, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Xabi Alonso was a great defensive midfielder in Real Madrid and Liverpool. He is doing well in Bayern Munich. He's not on my list. Casemiro is one of the best defensive midfielder in the world right playing for Madrid. He's not on my list. Sami Khedira is doing wonders in Juventus and Germany as a defensive Midfielder. He's not on my list. Daniele De Rossi is a much respected defensive midfielder for AS Roma and Italy. He's not on my list. It's not because Mikel did not play for Madrid or Barcelona that I do not think he is not World Class. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 8:46am On Feb 09, 2017 |
I have been thinking about Gabriel Jesus. I have taken time to see his game and I think he is the next Macheda. Time will tell. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jobsat34(m): 8:57am On Feb 09, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: That was aweswome.. Coming from a weaker foot ! Awesome INDEEDI... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 9:10am On Feb 09, 2017 |
joseph1013:nawao, Kante world class after 2 season #smh 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 9:28am On Feb 09, 2017 |
princesuko:how many game did oriol play for chelsea sef? 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 9:33am On Feb 09, 2017 |
@Joseph1013 I see in your list you added Busquets. Personally I think he is overrated. I categorize Busquets as a very good player but not a great one. He basically understood the Barcelona philosophy and basically plays for the team. On his own, he does not dominate games or decide games like Xavi, Iniesta could do. Put Busquets out of the Barcelona team, he will be found out as just another player in the team. He is on the same level as Pedro Rodriguez. I don't think I ever saw Busquets dominate games and win championships like Yaya Toure or Pirlo. My assessment is based on individual play not team. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:38am On Feb 09, 2017 |
princesuko:oga.... do you have a problem with my emphasis? I know that well and even Yaya is worth mentioning if it's about another league+ UCL Eto did nothing in EPL worth hype Yaya conquered only EPL but never won the UCL in an English club jersey..... 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:42am On Feb 09, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:ndidi is a good and robust midfielder... but the whole Leicester team are washing down his efforts with their below per performance... whatsup musa... dude should please step up his game before he goes the way of brown ideye who only played one season at westbrom... as per ndidi breaking into the super eagles team... I think a combo with onazi will be a top notch...then either Mikel or iwobi plays in front of them as an attacking midfielder. am a fan of two defensive midfield combos..just like ELENY and COQUELIN,FERNANDINHO and YAYA TOURE.. I think any team that plays that though may lack the services of no10(creative or central midfielder) but believe u me.. will be a hard but to crack in terms of conceding goals.. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by irrefragable: 9:47am On Feb 09, 2017 |
Joebie:don't mind anybody,, you are right. Mikel is not world class. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:49am On Feb 09, 2017 |
Funny analogy. Using this I will say, "wouldn't put a player like Pepe who was benched by Varane as World Class" princesuko: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 9:51am On Feb 09, 2017 |
goldfish80: This is a disappointing comment. Busquets is irreplaceable in the Barcelona team. Busquets gives some of the most difficult kind of passes that break opposition lines. He is widely acknowledged as the best defensive midfielder in the world. That's what TheGoodJoe was saying about defensive midfielders. Because they are not flamboyant, their roles tend to be underplayed. You believe the way he breaks down opposition plays will not thrive in a team like Juventus and Chelsea? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:51am On Feb 09, 2017 |
Says one who is "what/who" again? MIKEL IS WORLD-CLASS. Live with it or remain in denial. irrefragable: 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:53am On Feb 09, 2017 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by peterd53(m): 9:56am On Feb 09, 2017 |
[quote author=tbaba1234 post=53544137] Aguero was suspended.. No way sterling will start ahead of Aguero. [ Aguero wasn't suspended, he was later introduce into d game. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:00am On Feb 09, 2017 |
I ENDORSE THIS POST Let Truth speak and not sentiments.... Saying Mikel is not World-class but calling Kante World-class is like saying......... #lawd I don't even know what to call it... TheGoodJoe: 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zicky(m): 10:02am On Feb 09, 2017 |
joseph1013:Busquet is overhype the guy is the white form of Mikel even KDB to me is worth to be called a world class, playing for wolfburg nd city |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:08am On Feb 09, 2017 |
Huh?? Next macheda?? Now wait a minute... I actually do rate Gabby Jesus but not more than I do Iheanacho based on records so far.... But calling him the next macheda? Isn't that harsh? Sir Joseph... Hmmm... Anyway, make I dey observe.... joseph1013: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 10:09am On Feb 09, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: Time will tell. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:12am On Feb 09, 2017 |
"Busquets is the 'white-form' of Mikel" Cc: Sir Joseph1013 I think Sir Zicky just dropped a very powerful fact. If Busquets was Nigerian playing for Chelsea and and Mikel was Spainard playing for Barca..... Hehehehehe... Don't you think you will rate Mikel above busquets? Coz truth is they play the same way in the DM/CM role only that Mikel has more skillsets than busquets as can be seen in the green-and-white. zicky: 1 Like |
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