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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dhelake: 9:19am On Feb 09, 2017
Loogan:


I'm sure you have not even seen the belloti guy play.....what you Don't understand is that football is getting past the era where strikers are only expected to score and nothing else alot of things that didn't matter are now important for strikers to do but since some of you judge solely by goals I doubt you know what I'm saying, the aguero you are clamouring for is getting benched in city(although getting the goals) because he cannot perform the things pep see as important for his strikers..so you now think conte will now buy someone that cannot even cope in a team with less intensity than his...then oga if clubs didn't buy potential why did they buy batshuyayi.. .it's not just all about goals, that's why Gabriel jesus is benching kelechi and aguero..That's also why conte cannot trust batshuyayi enough to start when costa is unavailable..go check strikers like lewandowski, suarez, aubameyang,Costa,belloti and see what they have in common(apart from goalscoring) you will see my point.

How do you know what I understand and what I dont??

It's like this belotti guy doesn't have attributes that can be described. The first job of a striker is to score goals and Belotti hasn't done that consistently enough.

You even classed him with Suarez and Lewy grin grin grin grin . Someone that is not on Harry Kane's level yet. Just agree even you haven't seen Belotti play. You read one or two article and you are coming here to form expert opinion
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheNonce: 9:25am On Feb 09, 2017
diggz:


Oga this is not politics and it has nothing close to being one. This is about football, a striker suitable for CFC and one to replace Costa.

It is clear you don't like Lukaku and dont want him back with CFC however, calling him a fool is way too melodramatic don't you think?


What of Alexandre Lacazette of lyon? 25 and already has over a 100 goals! Has done over 20 goals a season for the past 4 years in a row!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 9:40am On Feb 09, 2017
TheNonce:



What of Alexandre Lacazette of lyon? 25 and already has over a 100 goals! Has done over 20 goals a season for the past 4 years in a row!

To be honest with you, I haven't seen much of Alex lacazette, so I am not really in a position to form or give any sound opinion of him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 9:46am On Feb 09, 2017
Loogan:


Tell that torino president not me, Ofcourse I don't think he is worth that now but mind you it's not just all hype, if you see him play you understand why they put that price.
it seems you don't know how small clubs work, when they have a little assets they put so much price on them, luckily if the deal pulls through they use the money gotten from them to finance all their transfer through that season.

Chelsea is not a maga club, man u is.. Belloti is still having his first season which is not good enuf to judge him, Even Alex lacazettee who has been scoring 20+ every season is not going for that price....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 9:48am On Feb 09, 2017
Loogan:


I'm sure you have not even seen the belloti guy play.....what you Don't understand is that football is getting past the era where strikers are only expected to score and nothing else alot of things that didn't matter are now important for strikers to do but since some of you judge solely by goals I doubt you know what I'm saying, the aguero you are clamouring for is getting benched in city(although getting the goals) because he cannot perform the things pep see as important for his strikers..so you now think conte will now buy someone that cannot even cope in a team with less intensity than his...then oga if clubs didn't buy potential why did they buy batshuyayi...it's not just all about goals, that's why Gabriel jesus is benching kelechi and aguero..That's also why conte cannot trust batshuyayi enough to start when costa is unavailable..go check strikers like lewandowski, suarez, aubameyang,Costa, belloti and see what they have in common(apart from goalscoring) you will see my point.
fixed cool
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 9:54am On Feb 09, 2017
TheNonce:



What of Alexandre Lacazette of lyon? 25 and already has over a 100 goals! Has done over 20 goals a season for the past 4 years in a row!
then you don't know him.. Lacazette has 100+ goals in 230+ matches across his for season with Lyon.. He has been contributing to at least 30% of the goals Lyon have every season, I don't know why arsenal dy dull over that guy sef..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheNonce: 9:57am On Feb 09, 2017
lordfalcao:
then you don't know him.. Lacazette has 100+ goals in 230+ matches across his for season with Lyon.. He has been contributing to at least 30% of the goals Lyon have every season, I don't know why arsenal dy dull over that guy sef..



How are they dulling? They have tried to sign him for the past 2 summers but lyon keeps playing hard ball by changing figures, or should they kidnap him? They still want to try this summer again and you know arsenal find it hard to spend cash...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 9:59am On Feb 09, 2017
TheNonce:




How are they dulling? They have tried to sign him for the past 2 summers but lyon keeps playing hard ball by changing figures, or should they kidnap him? They still want to try this summer again and you know arsenal find it hard to spend cash...
the only reason arsenal is dulling is because of their stingy nature.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 10:03am On Feb 09, 2017
TheNonce:


What of Alexandre Lacazette of lyon? 25 and already has over a 100 goals! Has done over 20 goals a season for the past 4 years in a row!

Way way average. Seen him play a hell lotta of time and there's nothing spectacular about him

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheNonce: 10:11am On Feb 09, 2017
Griffon:


Way way average. Seen him play a hell lotta of time and there's nothing spectacular about him


Same could be said about drogba before he moved to chelsea innit? Sometimes a change in scenery and competition can improve or inhibit a player! He won't cost much so it looks like a safe bet for you guys! Anyway benzema is also for sale!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 10:15am On Feb 09, 2017
"We think it will be a toss-up between Lukaku and Morata for Chelsea in the summer and we are placing Lukaku at the slightly longer odds of 11/10 for
him to swap Goodison for Stamford Bridge.” - Betstars
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 10:22am On Feb 09, 2017
diggz:


Oga this is not politics and it has nothing close to being one. This is about football, a striker suitable for CFC and one to replace Costa.

It is clear you don't like Lukaku and dont want him back with CFC however, calling him a fool is way too melodramatic don't you think?
you think that it is only goals that is considered when you talk about a striker, fine. But, have you sat down to think of how productive a striker will be when he cannot play in a system that complements his attributes? lukaku has no technical intelligence to play in a club like chelsea. he cannot cope with the pressure of having to deliver week in week out.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 10:31am On Feb 09, 2017
Greatihex:
you think that it is only goals that is considered when you talk about a striker, fine. But, have you sat down to think of how productive a striker will be when he cannot play in a system that complements his attributes? lukaku has no technical intelligence to play in a club like chelsea. he cannot cope with the pressure of having to deliver week in week out.

Tell me the technical intelligence Costa have abeg.....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 10:38am On Feb 09, 2017
TheNonce:



Same could be said about drogba before he moved to chelsea innit? Sometimes a change in scenery and competition can improve or inhibit a player! He won't cost much so it looks like a safe bet for you guys! Anyway benzema is also for sale!

Benzema ke.....Burr Burr u guys are looking for a striker too Na....make manU buy am abeg we no want...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CltrAltDelicious(m): 10:43am On Feb 09, 2017
TheNonce:



Same could be said about drogba before he moved to chelsea innit? Sometimes a change in scenery and competition can improve or inhibit a player! He won't cost much so it looks like a safe bet for you guys! Anyway benzema is also for sale!
Benzema ke? We rather stick to Batshuyayi
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheNonce: 10:47am On Feb 09, 2017
diggz:


Benzema ke.....Burr Burr u guys are looking for a striker too Na....make manU buy am abeg we no want...


grin grin


Benzema "the offside legend" would be a better fit for the gunners! Like them he is also a specialist in under achievement! We na pensioners we dey like!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 10:49am On Feb 09, 2017
TheNonce:



grin grin


Benzema "the offside legend" would be a better fit for the gunners! Like them he is also a specialist in under achievement! We na pensioners we dey like!


Lol....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 11:03am On Feb 09, 2017
diggz:


Tell me the technical intelligence Costa have abeg.....
costa is not even the ideal striker for this chelsea system. we all see how costa kills counter attacks with his foolishness of not passing the ball when he has to, but instead choosing to dribble even when he knows that is not also good at it. i have not really fancied costa, but i cannot call him a fraud because of the goals he keeps scoring. this goal come about from his fighting spirit, positioning and anticipation which he all has over lukaku. costa can still offer better for chelsea in this system than lukaku. atleast, costa will be able to pass the ball back to hazard successfully more times than lukaku will do. costa will detect a teammates run to give a pass or use the advantage of the run to create a goal for himself. costa can play a one two with a teammate. costa can make better key passes than lukaku. although you may argue that lukaku has more key passes than costa, but that is due to the fact that teams have the tendency to defend when they play against chelsea than when they play against everton. so, costa's attempted passes in the final third will often times blocked by the opponent.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 11:13am On Feb 09, 2017
Griffon:


Way way average. Seen him play a hell lotta of time and there's nothing spectacular about him
how many elite strikers do we have in football now??

Suarez, Aguero, lewandowski, Costa, higuain and cavani The rest are still average. You can only be elite when playing for a bigger club.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamrosheed: 12:11pm On Feb 09, 2017
lordfalcao:
how many elite strikers do we have in football now??

Suarez, Aguero, lewandowski, Costa.. The rest are still average. You can only be elite when playing for a bigger club.
you forgot Higuain and Cavanni
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 12:17pm On Feb 09, 2017
iamrosheed:

you forgot Higuain and Cavanni
yea I forgot to add them. Thanks
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 12:21pm On Feb 09, 2017
Team Chelsea.

Conte : President

David Luiz : Minister of Defence

Cahill : The General

Azpillicueta : Inspector (in Igbo we call him Azubuike grin I.e back is strong cheesy )

Moses : Predator

Marcos Alonso : Energy Minister

Kante : Power Bank

Matic : Warrant Officer

Pedro : Temple Run I

Willian : Temple Run II

Hazard : Operations Manager (Starboy)

Diego Costa : Gorvenor

We are Chelsea grin grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 12:22pm On Feb 09, 2017
lordfalcao:
how many elite strikers do we have in football now??

Suarez, Aguero, lewandowski, Costa.. The rest are still average. You can only be elite when playing for a bigger club.

Giroud plays for a top team, he must be an elite forward. Save me that logic.

Lacazette puts the a in average. A player who cant find his way around the les bleus team where Giroud and Gignac are his closest competitions shouldn't be taken serious.

To your question, you can mull over these names. Suarez, Higuan, Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Costa, Lukaku, Lewy, Griezmann, Aubameyang. Yes, there are elite forwards.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 12:27pm On Feb 09, 2017
Griffon:


Giroud plays for a top team, he must be an elite forward. Save me that logic.

Lacazette puts the a in average. A player who cant find his way around the les bleus team where Giroud and Gignac are his closest competitions shouldn't be taken serious.
Giroud is average..

I think you should not take Deschamps serious for pcking Giroud Martial and gignac over lacaxette who has more goals more than them..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 12:29pm On Feb 09, 2017
Griffon:


Giroud plays for a top team, he must be an elite forward. Save me that logic.

Lacazette puts the a in average. A player who cant find his way around the les bleus team where Giroud and Gignac are his closest competitions shouldn't be taken serious.

To your question, you can over mull over these names. Suarez, Higuan, Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Costa,Lewy, Yes, there are elite forwards.
Fixed for you..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:30pm On Feb 09, 2017
what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! did someone just call lukaku an ELITE FORWARD?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheNonce: 12:31pm On Feb 09, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG_3xiEGRHE




Seems this guy's strength are in his instincts as well as his finishing! Also plays like a runner but I don't see him being an assist giver or even a hold up play kind of guy or the type that needs to be isolated up front on his own! This guy just gets goals!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:57pm On Feb 09, 2017
donjazet:


It would be absolute madness to purchase the bellotti guy for anything more than 40m if indeed we want him. But Conte has shown that he is not the kind of manager that would scream "get him at all cost" to the board that's why I feel getting even lukaku would be difficult because of the price they may place on his head.

Though 90m is too high, guy that dude is worth more than 40m. He is not a batshuayi type of player who cant take defenders on, when no colleague is in support and couldn't bury chances. He is strong and swift, with good foot works. he plays just like suarez in his days at ajax. I dont see how he wouldn't sting in chelsea. Real is well-positioned to buy him now, to replace benzema.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 1:07pm On Feb 09, 2017
Lacazette league goals since

2013-2014 : 15 goals.
2014-2015 : 27 goals
2015-2016 : 21 goals
2016- 2017 : 19 goals.

Lukaku since in the league.

2013- 2014: 15 goals
2014- 2015: 10 goals
2015-2016 : 18 goals
2016 - 2017 16 goals

Lukaku is Elite striker, lacazette is way below average.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 1:57pm On Feb 09, 2017
lordfalcao:
Lacazette league goals since

2013-2014 : 15 goals.
2014-2015 : 27 goals
2015-2016 : 21 goals
2016- 2017 : 19 goals.

Lukaku since in the league.

2013- 2014: 15 goals
2014- 2015: 10 goals
2015-2016 : 18 goals
2016 - 2017 16 goals

Lukaku is Elite striker, lacazette is way below average.

Are you trying to compare the French league to the EPL?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 2:03pm On Feb 09, 2017
donjazet:


Are you trying to compare the French league to the EPL?
what is the difference with the French league and English league.. Just like when you lots compare hazard and messi two players in different league??.

I don't know how lukaku can be called elite striker and lacazette called way average.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheNonce: 2:04pm On Feb 09, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYnEnm75CJg



Belloti on the other hand might be cheaper, also plays as a winger, second striker and as a big bruising center forward, can dribble but is still not a supreme finisher although he is just 23! Personally he looks more suited to chelsea than lacazette! Playing for a small club and still getting goals who knows what he can become with stellar support around him?

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