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The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by Missy89(f): 3:57am On Feb 09, 2017 |
Early results came in from the US Air Force's realistic, challenging Red Flag air combat exercise — and it looks like the F-35 slaughtered the competition. Aviation Week reports that the Joint Strike Fighter killed 15 aggressors for each F-35 downed. The F-35 achieved this remarkable ratio in a drastically increased threat environment that included radar jamming, increased air threats, and surface-to-air missile batteries. "In the past, the non-kinetic effects were not fully integrated into the kinetic fight," Col. Robert Cole, the Air Force Cyber Forward director, said in a statement. But now F-35s take on cyberthreats and electronic warfare in addition to enemy surveillance and conventional, or kinetic, threats. "This integration in an exercise environment allows our planners and warfighters to understand how to best integrate these, learn their capabilities and limitations, and become ready to use [these combined resources for maximum] effect against our adversaries," Cole said. But the F-35s didn't just shoot down the enemy — they used their sensor-fusion and data link abilities to talk to other planes and help them sniff out threats they wouldn't have seen on their own. "Before, where we would have one advanced threat and we would put everything we had — F-16s, F-15s, F-18s, missiles, we would shoot everything we had at that one threat just to take it out — now we are seeing three or four of those threats at a time," Lt. Col. George Watkins, 34th Fighter Squadron commander, told Aviation Week. "Just between [the F-35] and the [F-22] Raptor, we are able to geolocate them, precision-target them, and then we are able to bring the fourth-generation assets in behind us after those threats are neutralized," Watkins said. "It's a whole different world out there for us now." The ability of fifth-generation US aircraft to detect threats and send that information to legacy planes meets an urgent need for the US military. As adversarial nations like China and Russia improve their counter-stealth abilities and air defenses, numbers increasingly matter. The F-35 repeatedly hit cost and schedule overruns during its production and is now years behind schedule. But the latest performance at Red Flag shows that even a handful of F-35s can improve an entire squadron's performance. The current Red Flag exercise will conclude on February 10. http://www.businessinsider.com/f-35-slaughters-competition-red-flag-2017-2
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Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by Adminisher: 4:07am On Feb 09, 2017 |
Don't let them fool you. F35 is the best plane in the world after the Raptor 4 Likes |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by panafrican(m): 5:05am On Feb 09, 2017 |
Program cost almost half a trillon Even Trump a strong advocate for national defense complained about the cost. 2 Likes |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by Nobody: 11:08am On Feb 09, 2017 |
Another thinly-veiled propaganda to project America's dwindling military supremacy. Until I read & verify this spurious & preposterous claim from a “Non-CIA” controlled media - since Business Insider is a German-owned Amerikan news website controlled & manipulated by the CIA; this piece of garbage is hereby duly discarded in the Kremlin dustbin. 9 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by seunny4lif(m): 4:44pm On Feb 09, 2017 |
Flying coffin I rather use Nigerian made jets than using overrated coffin Obatala7Kronos: 7 Likes 5 Shares
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Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by darknetcom: 6:47pm On Feb 09, 2017 |
kikikiki... ..flying coffin... hahahaha.... expensive flying coffin.... 7 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by darknetcom: 6:49pm On Feb 09, 2017 |
panafrican: half a trillon dollars,not nairas uohhh... americans are certified mo rons,chikena... 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by Nobody: 7:00pm On Feb 09, 2017 |
seunny4lif: Hahahahahahahaa! Chop Knuckle 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by SalamRushdie: 7:46pm On Feb 09, 2017 |
F35 the new dawn of air superiority. That's the aircraft you would trust your son's life with .. 2 Likes |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by CSTR2: 8:57pm On Feb 09, 2017 |
There is no jet in europe that compares to the F-35. It completely trounce them all. Infact, the F-35 is a victim of its own sophistication. The F-22 is the only jet that can compare with the F-22. And america owns both. 2 Likes |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by seunny4lif(m): 9:45pm On Feb 09, 2017 |
Obatala7Kronos: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by Nobody: 4:47pm On Feb 10, 2017 |
CSTR2: My Al-Qaeda little Terrorist, maybe you should read this. S-500 Will Push F-22 and F-35 Into Retirement The Russian military is gearing up to test the first prototypes of its next-generation S-500 Prometey air and missile defense system, which is also known as 55R6M «Triumfator-M». The weapon is not an upgrade but the fifth (new) generation system, capable of destroying intercontinental ballistic missiles and spacecraft, hypersonic cruise missiles and airplanes at speeds of higher than Mach 5. The S-500 is expected to be much more capable than the current S-400 Triumph. For instance, its response time is only 3-4 seconds (for comparison, the response time of S-400 is nine to ten seconds). The S-500 is able to detect and simultaneously attack (as well as make speeds of up to 4.3 miles per second) up to ten ballistic missile warheads out at 600 km flying at speeds of twenty-three thousand feet per second. Prometey can engage targets at altitudes of about 125 miles, including incoming ballistic missiles in space at ranges as great as 400 miles. Experts believe that the systems capabilities can affect enemy intercontinental ballistic missiles at the end and the middle portion. Some sources report, that the S-500 system can detect ballistic missile at a range of 2000 km and warheads of ballistic missiles at a range of 1300 km. It makes the system capable of defeating ballistic missiles before their warheads re-enter atmosphere. Built for «hide, shoot and scoot» operations, the S-500 is expected to be highly mobile and able to rapidly deploy. It will use a network of radars for targeting over vast distances. The missile-defense capable system is expected to use the 91N6A (M) battle management radar, a modified 96L6-TsP acquisition radar, as well as the new 76T6 multimode engagement and 77T6 ballistic missiles engagement radars. It is also reportedly being designed to use hit-to-kill interceptors. The system will have new radio communications systems that are unrivaled in terms of quality, data transmission distance and stealth. «Currently, the corporation is developing the next, sixth-generation radio communications resources for completing the various types of military technology, including air-to-surface missile systems – those already present in the armed forces and those that will be in the future», noted a source in Russian defense industry. The highly protected radio channels will make it immune to eavesdropping. Prometey is planned to become operational in 2017 with a total of 10 batteries to be ordered. (Pause......I have told you that whenever you read or hear Russian statements such as - It is planned to become operational in 2020, 2030 or even 2090; it is just a way of fooling the perfumed military Generals at the Pentagon who - unlike the battle-hardened Russian Generals, have never been to any warfront - save for calling shots at their underground command center in WA, VA, NY & CA. Hahahahahahahaha! . Now, Pls let's continue reading ) «We expect the first samples of the S-500 anti-aircraft missile system to be delivered soon», Lt. Gen. Viktor Gumyonny, commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces’ air defense troops, told Russian Rossiya-24 TV channel. The first units will be deployed around Moscow and the country's center area. Totally, 5 batteries of S-500 missiles are to be in service by 2020. The S-500s will be networked with the S-400, S-300VM4 and S-350 and other weapons to create an integrated air-defense network. The Deputy Commander of the Russian Air Defense Lt. Gen. Sergei Razygraev said that the S-500 will become an element of the national strategic missile defense. United States defense officials believe that the best stealth warplanes in the Pentagon's arsenal will not be effective against the S-500. As one US industry official noted, «Moscow managed to continue developing advanced air defense system without much degradation in capability. Indeed, some of these new weapons – like the S-500 – are so capable that many US defense official worry that even stealth warplanes like the F-22, F-35 and the B-2 might have problems overcoming them». Hahahahahahaaa! It’s not often that a relatively inexpensive air defence weapon is able to make a trillion dollar fighter program obsolete. That’s exactly what the S-500 missile system will do to US brand new F-35 stealth fighter. The F-35 is known to have advanced electronics to enhance its jamming capability. But it won’t shake Prometey off. The S-500 system is designed to overcome countermeasures and stealth, using larger, more powerful radar that is highly resistant to jamming. It also has a set of three missiles of varying range that provide overlapping layers of defense. Given its extremely long range and effective electronic warfare capabilities, the S-500 is a game-changing weapon that challenges current military capabilities at the operational level of war. This system is unique and unparalleled in the world. For a visual demonstration, watch this video below my Terrorist little friend - and do not forget to extend my regards to your Jewish Terrorist companion - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-Ftv9BWJhw 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by darknetcom: 7:46am On Feb 11, 2017 |
Obatala7Kronos: this is what am trying to tell them too.. if we upgrade the alfa jets with a good pilot in it, we would be capable to take down the f35.. good pilots matter too... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by NairaMinted: 10:01am On Feb 11, 2017 |
"Actually, the extent of the F-22 Raptors contribution to the above mentioned kill ratio is not clear: the F-35s are flying alongside Raptors and, as one might expect, the F-22s take care of the aggressors whilst the F-35s slip undetected through the surface-to-air defenses until it reaches the position to drop munitions at the target. Considered that the F-22s are providing air cover to the Lightning IIs, is the 15:1 score a team result or the actual kill ratio of the F-35A?" "Actual Combat F15 is 102 kills to 0 losses, F-16 76 kills to 1 loss. F-35 has a long way to go. Also if you factor in the cost of 1 F-35A (cheapest model) at 148 million and say the cost of 15 F-16s at 282 million you could break it down to a 2 to 1 kill ratio in terms of dollars. Navy F-35 is 337M a copy So that would break down to a 1 to .25 kill ratio - not very cost effective. It would be cheaper to build more F-16's and F-18's In other words, the Business Insider article is propaganda created to sell a flying coffin. The Amerikan arms industry is desperate to sell this crooked aircraft by any means possible to its clients that were lined up to buy it. Threatening countries that expressed doubt such as Canada with possible job losses wasn't enough so they have to throw in propaganda to make a sale 7 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by darknetcom: 10:37am On Feb 11, 2017 |
NairaMinted: we should abandon anything that cost us too much... blaimy...are you kidding me??.. half a trillion dollars for just wan?... come on.. lets stick to the alfas and keep on upgrading them... 1 Like
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Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by Missy89(f): 11:44am On Feb 11, 2017 |
NairaMinted: Armchair wing commander, do you actually know how kill ratios are calculated? Because if you do, comparing F16 with the F35 sounds idiotic since they dont have similar years in service and combat deployment. You are basically comparing a total loss exchange ratio of the F16 to a single F35 training exercise. . Mumu man Or u really think a Single F16 can take out 102 jets ( about 5 squadrons) in one combat mission without running out of ammo? Lol 4 Likes
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Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by NairaMinted: 3:23pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Lol! I see Missy is still throwing fits when it gets exposed. Bottom line is, the F-35 is a tin can and everybody knows this 4 Likes |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by ValerianSteel(m): 4:35pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Obatala7Kronos:I don't understand the logic of you Russian asshats comparing a fighter jet with an air defense system?? Their functionality are not the same, why put them to the same standard and claim the Air Defense System is obviously superior? How bout you put this bird up against a Russian fighter? Then you can compare, or put the S-500 up against an American ADS. 6 Likes |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by Missy89(f): 4:55pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
ValerianSteel: You miss the part where he said s500 is EXPECTED TO BE much more..... Their wonderful s500 only exist on paper just lile the PAk Fa. Paper weapons that will not see the light of day or be obsolete in 2050 when Russia finally deploys one 1 Like |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by ValerianSteel(m): 6:18pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Missy89:Oh I missed that part They get raging boners for what they haven't seen but the junks they read from Sputnik and national interest. 2 Likes |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by cstr55: 8:12pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
ValerianSteel:Ofcourse, what do you expect? They know they stand no chance in the technological war for fighter-fighter air superiority. Their so-called pak-FA that is supposed to rival the F-22 is still in the imaginations of vladimir putin. 4 Likes |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by cstr55: 8:16pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
darknetcom:Yes, the alphas are your level anyway. You ain't getting the Falcons if you can ever afford it. The best you can get is an inferior Russian sukhoi. 1 Like |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by darknetcom: 9:24pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
cstr55: then,you buy us a f35 with your own money and dash us.... |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by darknetcom: 9:28pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Missy89: .. |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by darknetcom: 9:30pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
they want a new toy like on christmas day... they behave like stubborn children.. |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by cstr55: 9:32pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
darknetcom:wetin concern me with Nigeria? |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by Nobody: 10:35pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
ValerianSteel: My Hezbollah most-wanted jewish bomboclat! I had to compare your Amerikan & Israeli overrated fighter coffins to our Russian ADS since Amerika claims the F-35 & F-22 are invisible - and are specially built to evade ALL ADS But since you opted for a comparison between ADS vs ADS, Y don't we start with the Russian S-400 vs the completely useless & overrated Amerikan MIM-104 Patriot? Hahahahahaaa! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPFJ1qQjNFI Missy89 my Luv, I beg you in the name of Obatala & the Council of the Irunmoles; if your superiors at your current PMC ever ask you to fly any mission - even in a F-22 or F-35 jet over a restricted or an enemy airspace where any Russian ADS - beginning with the pre-fix “S” (e.g S-0, S-125, S-300, S-350, S-500 ) are on ground - Pls, do not feel ashame, and do not break my heart, just tender your resignation immediately & relocate down to Ijebu for the sake of Kain & Abel 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by seunny4lif(m): 11:38pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Wicked Obatala7Kronos: 4 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by Appleyard(m): 8:00pm On Feb 12, 2017 |
Missy89: Trollers everywhere... just as you also missed the part where the thieving and shameless ediots were bragging about a 10 turn 8...when any squadron in the fighter world are achieving that as a normacy, even achieving 12×12...but alas, the half a trillion Dollar plane can only boast of a 10 turn 8.. pathetic. I weep for the innocent hard working American taxpayer. Even Lockheed Martins has admitted there are still numerous problems--with the wings, the engine, software, etc, and so the plane is 3 years back from schedule with cost still mounting. Suddenly, the plane is having 92% kill ratio....marketing strategy...even when every dick and harry knew that Red and Blue flag exercises are often scripted to achieve a particular purpose...only few are left to play out fair...And I can bet, this F-35 92% acclaimed kill ratio is completely fishy.. The evidence is overwhelming already... Prime Minister Trudeau didn't let the cat out of the bag for nothing... But folks like you chose to believe in fairy tales... Anyway, time will tell...Like Serbia, history always has a place for reality. I rest my case. 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by nigeriancritic1(m): 1:33pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
panafrican:BETTER LABOUR WHEN IN PEACETIME THAN BLEED IN WARTIME |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by nigeriancritic1(m): 1:40pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
darknetcom:THAT IS A CHICKEN THOUGHT. UPGRADE A NEAR OBSOLETE TECHNOLOGY COMPARED TO f-35. YOU NEED MORE EDUCATION OR GO TO ROMANCE SECTION. NOPE! INNOVATION AND R& D ARE EXPENSIVE. ALSO THERE ARE NEW THINGS LEARNED IN THE PROCESS. |
Re: The F-35 Slaughtered The Competition In Its Latest Test by nigeriancritic1(m): 1:43pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
NairaMinted:I, MYSELF DON'T KNOW IT. YOU THINK R& IS A MINCE MEAT. AMERICANS HAVE ALL THEIR FACTS INTACT. IT IS WORTH IT. THE MOST SOPHISTICATED OF ALL FIGHTERS. THOUGH THERE ARE ESTIMATION PROBLEMS WITH THE PROJECTS. |
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