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Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Kingspin(m): 10:44am On Feb 11, 2017 |
In Nigeria people can write history to suit their hearing and public. The day Christian defeat themselves someone somewhere will write another history. Until every part of Nigeria is brought under one constitution of same justice, fairness and equity for all no developmental peace will exit in Nigeria. |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by TheSociopath(m): 11:36am On Feb 11, 2017 |
Lionize: You're saying Ojukwu wasnt diplomatic enough to get his wishes through other means other than declaring the state of Biafra? Forget it! Ojukwu was after his selfish interest and not for the liberation of the Igbos. The Igbos were doing very well before the civil war and were heading many government parastatals. He has indeed set the Igbos back a 100 years 5 Likes |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Etogist: 11:54am On Feb 11, 2017 |
A hood does not make a Monk, so changing your name can never make u a Biafran. And please next time you change your Afonja name don't use Tochukwu because that is my name. Thank you. |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Bujumbura(m): 12:58pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
cheruv:It's been long. He deactivated the handle after it was banned |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by stonemasonn: 12:59pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
TheSociopath:Ojukwu was under pressure from kinsmen to lead the secession war. |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by zendy: 1:46pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Nowenuse: Sorry bro, but there is no law on secession passed in any of these countries you mentioned. I challenge you to post a link that shows Canada, Spain or Britain having secession anywhere in their constitution. As for 'right of referendum', many countries routinely conduct referendum. A few years ago, New Zealand conducted a referendum about changing their national flag, Slovakia conducted a referendum on increasing Tax, Britain conducted a referendum on the EU. Even in Nigeria, parts of present day Adamawa state became part of Nigeria through a referendum conducted in 1961. |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 3:00pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Nowenuse: LWKMD!! ![]() ![]() ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 3:47pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Ah yes, I just remembered this excerpt from the old Vanguard Newspaper someone brought to my attention. It is a pity, that most people do not talk about this aspect of the post-civil war efforts. Awolowo and the forgotten documents of the civil war, by Odia Ofeimun | Vanguard Newspapers | November 17th 2012 | 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by hundredhundred: 3:51pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
StOla: 3 Likes |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Nowenuse: 3:54pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
cheruv: Ok, i wish u guys success. Lets see how far u will go. However, your people rejected d creation of Anioma state in the past claiming that u cannot let Onitsha go with Anioma people. I bet u guys are now hungry for Anioma people now but in life some things are too late. Anyone talking abt state creation now is just fooling himself. Nigeria has no time for that now. Anioma ppl are not the only ones agitating for a state, there are up to 20 others. 1 Like |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Nowenuse: 4:05pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
bigfrancis21: Yes, but i was born and bred in Delta state and grew up with these people. I know them like the back of my palms. Any igbo man thinking he can ever get majority support from Anioma people on anything pro igbo is just deceiving himself. At least you can pull some of them from Anochia/Oshimili axis (like 50%). But when it goes to Ika/Ndokwa axis, you are on a long thing. Personally, i used to see and adress Delta igbos as igbos in the past but as i grew up and made friends with more of them and understood them better, they kept rebuking n correcting me from adressing them as Igbos especially the Ikas n Ndokwas, so i had to oblige. However, good luck to u guys as i told the other, since it's no longer Biafra. Just that you guys never give others the view of your seriousness and will always meet criticisms. 2 Likes |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by bigfrancis21: 5:50pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Nowenuse: We all know this, this is not news. Many Igbo deniers are in Delta state and Rivers state, and so? Not that I am supporting Biafra but 'Biafra' is not an Igbo movement (though it may seem like it because only the Igbos are currently agitating for it), as of 1967 it consisted of several other minority tribes. If they want, Igbo-speakers from Delta and Rivers state could join the movement and still maintain their separate identity. Not accepting being Igbo is an invalid argument about who would join or not. Like I said, you should not even be on this thread carrying Anioma matter on your head like it concerns you. 1 Like |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by cheruv: 7:05pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Nowenuse:Bother yourself with your middlebelt ish and leave my Anioma people alone!!! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Nobody: 10:38pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Igbo this, Igbo that, every day Igbo igbo... some people are now Professors in Igbo matter. See them jumping up and down, like nwa'wo, on every Igbo thread, with their half baked knowledge. Mtchewwww 1 Like |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by laudate: 11:13pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
To the acolytes of IPOB and its' foot soldiers, here are some words of advice: “Before you start a war, always count the cost. If you couldn’t, you just might be walking into a very deep grave you had misunderstood to mean victory…there are people who would never start a war but they fear not to take on an enemy, and they have a mastery of the art of war without even lifting a finger, and won’t stop until not one drop of blood is left in your veins.” - Melchizedek Edward II “I need not tell you what horror, what devastation and what extreme human suffering will attend the use of force. When it is over and the smoke and dust have lifted and the dead are buried, we shall find as other people have found that it has all been futile, in solving the problems we set out to solve.” - General Adeyinka Adebayo (rtd), former Military Governor, old Western Region “In Biafra two wars were fought simultaneously. The first was for the survival of the Ibos as a race. The second was for the survival of Ojukwu’s leadership. Ojukwu’s error, which proved fatal for millions of Ibos, was that he put the latter first.” “I told Ojukwu [to] invite these people [and inform them]. He told me they would compromise. That’s what he said. He didn’t invite them, never asked them questions. That‘s not how to lead. That’s what led us into trouble. There are many areas we would have compromised. Ojukwu did not compromise. That’s one of the mistakes he made in the war…It wasn’t that Zik opposed the war. Anybody with an intellect, with a sense would consider carefully the implications of a war. War is destructive. There’s no country that went to war that didn’t suffer, not one. When we went to war, we destroyed everything we had.” - Dr Okechukwu Ikejiani (1917-2007), former President of the Nigerian Medical Association (1962-1966), and Biafra’s Director of Laboratory Services and Ambassador Plenipotentiary (1967-1970) 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Igboid: 12:40am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Just to be clear. Ojukwu started no war. Ndiigbo collectively had examined the history of Biafran war, and found Ojukwu to be a hero, and not a villain. I believe that no ethnic nationality in Nigeria are more intellectually endowed than Ndiigbo as to tell us who our heroes are or aren't. No amount of Lagos-Ibadan falsehoods or articles by naive Igbos driven by false sense of understanding of events of Biafra , selfish agenda or by need to curry favour from Ndiigbo detractors in Nigeria will change the very fact and truth that Ikemba remains a Biafran and by extension, Igbo hero. |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by amInigerian: 1:07am On Feb 12, 2017 |
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Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Igboid: 1:34am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Nigeria’s war time Head of State, General Yakubu Gowon, at the end of the Nigerian civil war in1970 announced ‘’No victor, no vanquished’’, a slogan, many thought, was meant to give those on the side of the defunct Biafra a kind of psychological relief and ‘sense of belonging’ in the affairs of the country. However, one of the top Biafran war commanders and a very close, trusted associate of Ojukwu the Biafran leader, Col Joseph Achuzia a.k.a “Air Raid’’, “Hannibal’’ or “Achucriminal’’ was thrown into jail for seven years after the war on the orders of the Federal Government under Gowon. A British trained Aeronautic engineer and one-time Secretary General of the apex Igbo sociocultural organization, Ohanaeze Ndigbo, Achuzia spoke inside his sitting room at his Asaba residence. Excerpts: Could you comment on the Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu you knew ? Dim Emeka Odumegwu Ojukwu has always been known to me right from my secondary school days, when we were in Kings College together. Then later we met in Britain. And by the time Nigeria became independent, in October 1960, and I came home, we met again. By then he had already become entrenched within his position in the Nigerian Army. We did not interact before the first coup took place; and immediately after the coup I left back to Britain. And I was following events because he was a key player in the scenario that was unfolding. Then the next landmark in my relationship with him took place when he was appointed the Governor of Eastern Region and Ejoor (General David Ejoor, rtd) was also appointed a governor. Ejoor was sent to Enugu and Ojukwu protested, which made the then Head of State, General Johnson Thomas Umunakwe Aguiyi-Ironsi to change the postings and sent him to Enugu while Ejoor was posted to Benin. When we got to Enugu the situation was such that a townsman of mine was also the Secretary to the Eastern Regional Government in the person of C. C. Mordi, from Asaba here. A lot of things were going on: the killings in the North, pogrom; so many Igbos from the North were rushing down home; and what was taking place made me to have a closer look into the sort of programme the then governor of Eastern Region, in the person of Odumegwu Ojukwu held for the Igbo people because the trauma being created by the extensive killing was such that it required somebody with a proper insight in dealing with human tragedy to handle. Soldiers, civilians, civil servants were affected. In fact, what took place affected the core inner group that held Igbo citizenship together, something that made the Igbo Union, which one regarded as all supreme in everything, of which Ohanaeze today, the Igbozuruome of today, were modeled after. Igbo Union had to retreat to the East. And in doing so, every Igbo person, male, female, child everything, for survival, was heading eastward. Why did Ojukwu protested Ejoor’s posting to Enugu It seemed that Ojukwu, who probably foresaw tomorrow, knew what would happen in the future. Perhaps that was the reason he protested against Ejoor being sent to Enugu because I am quite certain, in my mind now, not on hindsight but from what I saw around that time that the posting wasn’t correct and that Ojukwu was right to protest. |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Igboid: 1:35am On Feb 12, 2017 |
From then on my interest became more firm and solid, in terms of support, which I made up my mind to give to him. He came to Enugu, we met, discussed briefly, then I left back to Britain. It was while I was back in Britain that 1p.m news, in the afternoon, in London, it was announced that, Chief Obafemi Awolowo said that if the East goes, the West will go. So I realised that the whole of this thing was heading towards a shooting match; and I felt that with the loss of so many experienced, trained officers from the East that they, Eastern Region, would need every hand available on deck. That made me to board a plane coming back to Nigeria then to meet another coup, the July 1966 coup, which brought Gowon on board. I spent two days at Airport Hotel in Ikeja. When Murtala Mohammed was a Major, I knew him. George Miller, a friend of mine married to a German that I was going to stay in his house knew him (Murtala) but the instruction at the airport when we came out of the plane was that nobody goes out anywhere. So we were taken to the Airport Hotel. George Miller, being friendly with Murtala, brought him and we met. We discussed and he assured that I should wait for a day or so and there would be flight to Benin. He kept to his words. Two days later, the route to Benin was opened again. And myself, my wife and child were taken to the plane which we boarded to Benin. From there we headed to the East. By this time the situation was getting critical that second coup that we met was so devastating that it wasn’t only the army but everybody of Igbo origin or that came from the Eastern Region, including those Igbos from the Midwest became involved in the selective killings that were taking place. And the vision which Ojukwu saw, when he protested now crystallized itself because the Midwesterners, Western Igbos, that were returning from the North and from the West, heading home, on reaching Benin, were not welcomed. Reliefs that were being distributed were not given them. Placements in the civil service departments where they were working, to enable them obtain salary or whatever would be given for succour were not allowed. They were told to go and meet their people in Enugu. |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Igboid: 1:36am On Feb 12, 2017 |
So they all trooped out and headed for Enugu. We were also around to assist in receiving them. In fact, that was when Ika Igbo Association was formed, just as today you are hearing Anioma, Anioma; Anioma wasn’t in our lexicon then. What we had was Ika Igbo. And our interaction with Ojukwu and his government was concretised at that time. From then, even though the army in the Midwestern Command, the high echelon, was more of Midwestern Igbos, the civil service cadre that should have lent weight to them and support were no more available. Most of them had headed across the Niger. And it must also be borne in mind that the Nigerian boundaries vis a vis East and West were not as they are today, where you have as Ogbaru and those places used to be Midwest, Midwestern Region, the Niger wasn’t a natural boundary, it was the effect of the war that brought about the Niger, at the end of the war being regarded as a natural boundary and the configuration that took place since then still makes it difficult for the Igbos to settle down properly. The Ojukwu I knew As I was saying, you are talking about Ojukwu. Here was a man because of his vision, somehow prepared by God or providence, whatever it is, prepared him and placed him at this point in time in history at a place where he was to act as Moses for his people. This was the reason why all his pronouncements had always been that efforts must be made to make sure that the Igbos still remain recognised within the set up and arrangement called Nigeria. He made a lot of pronouncements and also, at the same time made a lot of requests from the Igbo people. I remember that there was a meeting he called of Leaders of Thoughts. During that meeting, he said what we are asking for is not separation but what we are entitled to by being partners in the arrangement called Nigeria. He said we were being pushed with intention of pushing us out of Nigeria, and this we will resist. For the first time he was the one who clarified what we mean in my mind and conditioned my attitude during the period of warfare, in the battle field. He said they can push us, we will take our stand in our own soil with our back against the wall but we will not give up what we have already created in Nigeria. He said, in terms of civilised norms implanted into Nigeria, it is the Igboman alone that feels he must build a decent house, not only to accommodate his family, but to accommodate those in whose land, in whose territory he acquired wealth and built these things. He said the Igbo man by education, self help, both within the commercial business group, the civil service, the entrepreneurship are the Igbos that we can’t abandon. We must resist the push. |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Igboid: 1:38am On Feb 12, 2017 |
[b]Why we forced Ojukwu to declare Biafra All of a sudden, we were given a date that on such and such a day the federal government is going to carve up Eastern Region. Ojukwu then called a Consultative Assembly of the people, among which were the Ika Igbos, also given a pride of place as part of the Igbo nation. Our traditional rulers from the Midwest, the Igbo speaking areas attended that conference. I was privy. I was there. And around 1pm a news flash came. What we were hearing as rumour became a reality: Eastern Region was carved. They carved out Rivers State and South East State. So we went into the afternoon recess and by the time we came out of recess and went into afternoon session, a decision was quickly reached that we can’t sit back and see ourselves divided, so the best thing to do was that we must ask Ojukwu to declare the State of Biafra. Before that there has been a lot of argument, here and there, over the issue of what name do we go by. So many different names and configurations were bandied about but finally we asked the group of lawyers assembled to prepare a communiqué declaring the state of Biafra. Even that meeting, Ojukwu wasn’t there, he was still in Government House. This meeting was being held within Hotel Presidential. So by the time the decision was reached, this was carried to him, we were surprised that he said no. He will not do it. He said that he will not declare. We thought either they didn’t teach the military what is meant when somebody is trying to cut you to bits. If he didn’t understand, we did. So message was sent back to him and an ultimatum was given him that if by 8:00 O’clock that night he didn’t declare the state of Biafra, not only will we remove him, we will declare and decide who leads us. Later in the evening he finally announced the state of Biafra. So we all rejoiced that now, at least, if Nigeria continued attacking us, we now knew how we were going to fight. The Eastern Region was one whole entity notwithstanding the earlier announcement by federal government creating three states out of Eastern Region. Ojukwu as a magician First to keep the morale of the people going, Ojukwu performed like a magician. People say, ah Okokon Ndem, Uche Chukwumerije, so many of them within the propaganda machinery, it was somebody that gave them the inspiration. Without Ojukwu, they wouldn’t have risen to the occasion. The army quickly changed by creating a situation where civilians were quickly mobilised into what was called Civil Defence.[/b] http://asaba.com/ojukwu-biafra-and-i-col-achuzia/ |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by escapefromusa(f): 1:50am On Feb 12, 2017 |
I always grow confused with any issue regarding the political relevance of the Ibo people in Nigeria. Once a comment is made, no matter how scholarly, it gets refuted in an emotional way. I am yet to find, an individual who supports the Ibo cessation ... make an argument or counter argument without emotional undertones or without trying to point out the original posters ethnic configuration. Why is there is shortage of intellectuals in this struggle ? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Eledan: 3:45am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Igboid: When were you born? You want anyone here to take a faceless kid words over the words of Pa Phillips Asiodu? 4 Likes |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Eledan: 4:07am On Feb 12, 2017 |
nku5: It's an ibo coup! You can believe otherwise from now till you are no more, it doesn't obliterate the fact that ibo officers killed leading political and military elites of other regions while sparing their own and eventually the beneficiaries of the coup were ibos. You guys set Nigeria back by 200 years with that night of madness by your drunken brothers 4 Likes |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Igboid: 9:29am On Feb 12, 2017 |
escapefromusa: You see what you want to see. All falsehoods present in that article had been countered many times on NL, even on this thread. At a point it just gets boring countering them. Nothing is emotional about the Igbo commoners resolve to ensure complete severance of shared colonial identity with Arewa-Oduanistans. It's rather the Igbophobic Arewa-Oduanistanis that get emotional about this Igbo resolve and grow dark in heart anytime Ndiigbo profess our love for Biafra our motherland, and exhibit this by throwing childish Igbophobic tantrums in every Igbo/ Biafra related thread. You people need to grow up. You can't force love or union with people who would have nothing to do with you. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Igboid: 9:32am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Eledan: Who is Philip Asiodu? He is a nobody and is only entitled to one vote in Igboland. A degenerate who for the sake of his insatiable greed support the cold murder of his kind by mouthing off a propaganda that had long been debunked. Achuzia is a hardened Igbo statesman who commands more respect in Igboland. His allegiance to Igbo wellbeing had been proved and written with blood in Biafra, and even now, he is still an active member of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo. His words and opinions as an actor in Igbo history bears more weight than those of Unknown turncoats like Asiodu driven by his greed and need to curry favour from his Igbophobic Nigerian cronies. ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by paramakina202: 10:37am On Feb 12, 2017 |
vanbonattel:Remember that some were fathered by Afonjas and Ewusas during the war,so op could be one of them. 1 Like |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Eledan: 11:38am On Feb 12, 2017 |
Igboid: Typical ibo, always ready to degenerate any elder that speaks what he doesn't want to hear You are free to keep writing your trash, but the whole world have documentary evidences of the party's played by all actors, and most you won't like. 4 Likes |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by vanbonattel: 12:06pm On Feb 12, 2017 |
Eledan: Typical afonja, always ready to lie about established historical facts just to score cheap political points which has never helped his region. 4 Likes |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Eledan: 12:34pm On Feb 12, 2017 |
vanbonattel: Typical loudmouth flatron, ready to talk carelessly and insult. Go through the historical facts up there and debunk them, otherwise keep your mouth inside the gutter. The same region all of your brothers are tropping to daily and begging the govt of Nigeria to help you connect another bridge to. Lying is becoming habitual to you easterners 1 Like |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by vanbonattel: 12:37pm On Feb 12, 2017 |
Eledan: There is no facts there. Aburi accord was signed to and Gowon refused to implement it. Then Ojukwu did the right thing and pulled away. This is the only history. Do you know why history as a subject was banned in schools? Because the then leaders (north and south west) are ashamed of themselves ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: The Enduring Grip Of Historical Falsehoods On Igbo Minds by Eledan: 1:21pm On Feb 12, 2017 |
vanbonattel: i can guarantee you that with your 100% or nothing approach, you will always lose in Nigeria. 1 Like |
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