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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DrinkWater10: 11:04pm On Feb 13, 2017
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 11:08pm On Feb 13, 2017
“Mata’s footballing IQ is off the scale. He does not have the pace to burn past defenders like Anthony Martial so he plays on the right to allow him to find gaps in midfield, cut in on his left foot and shoot."

- Jamie Carragher
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 11:13pm On Feb 13, 2017
Man city up to 2nd.........assnal, liverfool and tottenharm are all in reverse mode right now! 2 of these 3 teams must be sacrificed for our sake....by the end of march no be small laff person go dey laff one of the 3! tongue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 12:40am On Feb 14, 2017
Funlordmaniac:

Man city up to 2nd.........assnal, liverfool and tottenharm are all in reverse mode right now! 2 of these 3 teams must be sacrificed for our sake....by the end of march no be small laff person go dey laff one of the 3! tongue
Assnal and pool to dropout that's if spurs don't do a spurs oo.
Its gonna b fun, d next few weeks that is.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 5:29am On Feb 14, 2017
afrodoc2:
Great performance from the team and a much needed victory. The only negative was the regular evidence of Blind's inability to play LB against any body with pace and/or power....we need a fit LB urgently.
JM should also start giving Zlatan a few minutes off at the end of games, even if it's 5 or 10 minutes. This will make him fresher toward the end of the season and also allow us have Rashford play a few minutes at CF preferably with Mikki beneath and Martial out wide.
It seems JM has finally decided on his formation I.e 4-2-3-1 and the team is settled apart from LB and LWF.

I dont believe the back Partnership between Smalling and Bailly is stronger than that of Jones and Rojo. We just played two weak teams. Leicester is battling delegation while Watford is trying to climb up from down down.

On the other hand we have seen Jones and Rojo held their own against Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham and many top teams. They did not give Spurs a single chance while Arsenal only eqaulized from Rashford's error.

We have to wait and see how that back settles after next set of big fixtures

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 6:33am On Feb 14, 2017
United will PAY Monaco £8.5M if Martial scores one more GOAL!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 7:04am On Feb 14, 2017
Oasis007:
United will PAY Monaco £8.5M if Martial scores one more GOAL!
Please,who came up and signed such ridiculous agreement and clause in Martial's contract?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 7:07am On Feb 14, 2017
chidexxy007:

Assnal and pool to dropout that's if spurs don't do a spurs oo.
Its gonna b fun, d next few weeks that is.


I see assnal and spurs being the victims! One of them still has to face liverscum and city also......
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 8:09am On Feb 14, 2017
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 8:11am On Feb 14, 2017
Odunharry:

U forget to add the haters disguising as Supporters.

Na dem many pass here
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 8:38am On Feb 14, 2017
Danhumprey:
Please,who came up and signed such ridiculous agreement and clause in Martial's contract?

grin

LOUIS VAN GAAL of course!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pharod(m): 8:53am On Feb 14, 2017
Danhumprey:
Please,who came up and signed such ridiculous agreement and clause in Martial's contract?

Funny u should ask... Its some people's personal lord and savior LVG.

If I start mentioning names nw, they will say that am looking for trouble dis early morning ...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:15am On Feb 14, 2017
Oasis007:
United will PAY Monaco £8.5M if Martial scores one more GOAL!

I don't understand such a contract. So goal will make him EPL top scorer in a season or win us a trophy?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 9:21am On Feb 14, 2017
pharod:


Funny u should ask... Its some people's personal lord and savior LVG.

If I start mentioning names nw, they will say that am looking for trouble dis early morning ...


Or they would report you for making them receive sense! Oh you no sabi say we don get cnn reporters for this place? grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 9:40am On Feb 14, 2017
elampiro:


I don't understand such a contract. So goal will make him EPL top scorer in a season or win us a trophy?

I think it's about; if he scores certain number of Goals within a particular period, the Clause would be activated.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 9:56am On Feb 14, 2017
See nonsense! Just read that anyone's wife or chick who decides to wear a united jersey in the bedroom later tonight is targeting 6 ROUNDS!

tongue

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 10:00am On Feb 14, 2017
elampiro:


I dont believe the back Partnership between Smalling and Bailly is stronger than that of Jones and Rojo. We just played two weak teams. Leicester is battling delegation while Watford is trying to climb up from down down.

On the other hand we have seen Jones and Rojo held their own against Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham and many top teams. They did not give Spurs a single chance while Arsenal only eqaulized from Rashford's error.

We have to wait and see how that back settles after next set of big fixtures

I say the CB is settled because it doesn't really matter who we field at CB, we usually get good to excellent performances. I might still rate Rojo the worst (because of his 2 footed lunges and his occasional potential red card attracting tackles) but even he has been quite good. In other words it does not really matter the combination we usually get a settled performance. The only combo i would be hesitant to promote is Rojo and Bailly because they are both rash, however even if i see that combo i wouldn't be unduly worried.
Right back is setlled with Anthony Valencia and there are other players who can give a decent performance in that position.

The 2 positions where we have the greatest uncertainty are 1) LB where Shaw can't stay fit, Blind is too slow and too weak, Rojo is an attacking liability and Darmian is a 2 way liability AND 2) LW where Mourinho refuses to trust Martial on a regular basis and Lingard, Rashford are not really up to his quality in that position.
Mourinho's 1st choice at CF, RWF, CAM, 2CMs, GK are all obvious. It took him close to a season but he appears to be getting there.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 10:13am On Feb 14, 2017
pharod:


Funny u should ask... Its some people's personal lord and savior LVG.

If I start mentioning names nw, they will say that am looking for trouble dis early morning ...
Na that our football director we suppose blame.
If he (Mariam) they smash those clauses and we they win na good deal for everybody.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 10:46am On Feb 14, 2017
Some of the views here are quite funny! So you want to sign a talented young player with potential without performance related clauses or what?

You want to sign a young player from his club who still had a long term development contract with monaco from them without adding any sweeteners to convince him and his agent as well as monaco to agree to a deal? Do you know the clauses that were inserted into cr7's contract in 2003, or even depays or Pogba's? We even have a buy back clause inserted in depays own in case he goes and turns into messi later on in france!

The onus is on the player to deliver...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:56am On Feb 14, 2017
afrodoc2:


I say the CB is settled because it doesn't really matter who we field at CB, we usually get good to excellent performances. I might still rate Rojo the worst (because of his 2 footed lunges and his occasional potential red card attracting tackles) but even he has been quite good. In other words it does not really matter the combination we usually get a settled performance. The only combo i would be hesitant to promote is Rojo and Bailly because they are both rash, however even if i see that combo i wouldn't be unduly worried.
Right back is setlled with Anthony Valencia and there are other players who can give a decent performance in that position.

The 2 positions where we have the greatest uncertainty are 1) LB where Shaw can't stay fit, Blind is too slow and too weak, Rojo is an attacking liability and Darmian is a 2 way liability AND 2) LW where Mourinho refuses to trust Martial on a regular basis and Lingard, Rashford are not really up to his quality in that position.
Mourinho's 1st choice at CF, RWF, CAM, 2CMs, GK are all obvious. It took him close to a season but he appears to be getting there.

Ok, now I understand. But in my opinion we are settled with Martial on the left. The problem is the right if we are to play Mkhitaryan or Mata as proper number 10. I prefer Mkhitaryan. We need a right wing player who can attack straight like Martial does on the left. Not one drafting in always.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 11:00am On Feb 14, 2017
THE FINE PRINT:

United have declined to comment on the document, which first appeared on website Football Leaks and claims to show the details of the French forward's move between the clubs in the summer transfer window.

The document says the initial fee of 50m Euros (£38.5m) for the player is to be paid in two instalments - €20m (£15.4m) within three days of his transfer, and €30m (£23.1m) on July 1.


There are then three further potential payments - €10m (£7.7m) if the player scores 25 first-team goals for Manchester United, €10m (£7.7m)  if Martial makes 25 appearances for the French national team and €10m (£7.7m) more if the player is ever nominated for the Ballon d'Or award.


There is also a sell-on clause inserted in the deal, with Monaco due to be paid 50 per cent of any transfer fee between €60m and €100m United receive for the player.



Martial was the most expensive teenager in the world when Manchester United bought him in August, and he signed a four-year deal with the club.

The forward, who has scored eight goals in 26 appearances so far this season, had signed A NEW DEAL WITH MONACO IN JUNE, when the Ligue 1 club's vice-president Vadim Vasilyev called the player "untransferable", only for him to move less than two months later.



http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/10137171/anthony-martial-could-cost-manchester-united-61-5m
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 11:24am On Feb 14, 2017
elampiro:


Ok, now I understand. But in my opinion we are settled with Martial on the left. The problem is the right if we are to play Mkhitaryan or Mata as proper number 10. I prefer Mkhitaryan. We need a right wing player who can attack straight like Martial does on the left. Not one drafting in always.


I believe JM has settled on Mikki as the 10 and Juan Mata as RWF for this season, however he is not sold on Martial holding down that LWF position yet. Going forward though he might want a replacement for Mata on that right flank. This is the only scenario that explains sensibly the rumors about Griezmann. Griezmann as RWF might be able to give us Mata's goals and movement AND very importantly be a significant upgrade in 1v1 situations against the full back.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 11:49am On Feb 14, 2017
Oasis007:


grin

LOUIS VAN GAAL of course!

Van gaal or Woodward? Smh!

You think Van gaal signed those contractual fees? He was at Monaco to sign those contractual clause fees? grin

As far as I'm concerned, his signing fees which was 38mil, was the only thing Van Gaal knew about, not the pay per goal/app clauses. That one is on Woodward.

His job was to identify Martial as the player he wants, it was Woodward who went ahead to sign the ridiculous pay per goal/app. The same Van gaal refused to sign Mane because Southampton were demanding for 30-35 mil pounds for Mane. He eventually signed Depay in his place. I doubt if Van gaal would sign a prodigy for that contractual fees.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 11:58am On Feb 14, 2017
Let us not give a dog a bad name in order to hang him. Wetin concern Van Gaal with the contractual clauses in an agreement between the 2 clubs?
The money men deal with such things, Van Gaal's responsibility was to OK a player transfer or to go to the board with a list of players he wants IN or OUT of the club.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TapDance: 2:49pm On Feb 14, 2017

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 2:57pm On Feb 14, 2017
^^^


Who cares? He is going nowhere except on loan maybe! This is some agent or media bullshit at work but at the end of the day rashford has not done anything in his career to grant him restless status! Let him go and watch Gabriel Jesus a bit abeg....

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:05pm On Feb 14, 2017
afrodoc2:

Let us not give a dog a bad name in order to hang him. Wetin concern Van Gaal with the contractual clauses in an agreement between the 2 clubs?
The money men deal with such things, Van Gaal's responsibility was to OK a player transfer or to go to the board with a list of players he wants IN or OUT of the club.

I don't want to blame Gaal, but Ferguson wouldn't have allowed such a contract.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:06pm On Feb 14, 2017
Kagawa10:


Van gaal or Woodward? Smh!

You think Van gaal signed those contractual fees? He was at Monaco to sign those contractual clause fees? grin

As far as I'm concerned, his signing fees which was 38mil, was the only thing Van Gaal knew about, not the pay per goal/app clauses. That one is on Woodward.

His job was to identify Martial as the player he wants, it was Woodward who went ahead to sign the ridiculous pay per goal/app. The same Van gaal refused to sign Mane because Southampton were demanding for 30-35 mil pounds for Mane. He eventually signed Depay in his place. I doubt if Van gaal would sign a prodigy for that contractual fees.

{€10m (£7.7m) more if the player is ever nominated for the Ballon d'Or award.}

The only sensible clause.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 4:11pm On Feb 14, 2017
Lol.
I agree. Rashford needs to settle down. But what has Jesus done or achieved for Rashford to be watching him??

This is a guy that has already delivered in some big games and yet una no wan give am breathing space considering he's always being played out of position. Abeg. Make una take am easy.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:25pm On Feb 14, 2017
elampiro:


I don't want to blame Gaal, but Ferguson wouldn't have allowed such a contract.

You can't compare the power and influence managers like SAF and Wenger have in their clubs compared to almost any other manager. Fergie and Wenger because of their longevity and power of incumbency have powers and influence beyond the average manager.
Also i can't state for certain that SAF wouldn't have allowed it (after all SAF signed Bebe for 7m pounds AND THAT DEAL IS WORSE IMO), all i know is an ordinary manager does not get involved in such contractual clauses....You can't blame LVG for this one.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 4:26pm On Feb 14, 2017
angry Make Rashford comport ... Which kain rough play be dat ... btw, i don't take some media serious
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordmaniac(m): 4:26pm On Feb 14, 2017
Lana1:
Lol.
I agree. Rashford needs to settle down. But what has Jesus done or achieved for Rashford to be watching him??

This is a guy that has already delivered in some big games and yet una no wan give am breathing space considering he's always being played out of position. Abeg. Make una take am easy.


When we say he should watch "Jesus" we are not only even looking at what or how he plays at city currently but how he had transformed himself into a key man at palmeiras and how he has forced himself into his national team set up and now how he is giving a superb striker in "Aguero" selection headache while remaining humble, quiet and just getting goals!


Instead of rashford to help us retire grandpa Ibra and rooney he is allowing crap emanate from his camp off the pitch when he is not doing much on the pitch! Jesus has not even done much at city but going by their attitudes I won't be surprised if he ends up at the top while rashford eventually heads to bolton!

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