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Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Nnemuka(f): 7:43pm On Feb 15, 2017
Of what use is that minister of Finance sef? Asides budget padding?
why have they decided to rubbish Fashola like this?
Making him look like a common thief...Tufia
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Nobody: 7:47pm On Feb 15, 2017
Ajibel:


When a ministry prepares it's budget, it is vetted by the Minister and then passed on to the Budget / Finance office who now prepares the final document which the president presents to NASS.

After the budget proposal has left a ministry, it can be tampered with by the Budget or Finance ministry. That's what happened in this case sir.
Fashola may not be the one who insert it but he will sure get his cut from it after the illicit deal is accomplished.
Nnemuka:
Of what use is that minister of Finance sef? Asides budget phttp://www.nairaland.com/likesandsharesadding?
why have they decided to rubbish Fashola like this?
Making him look like a common thief...Tufia
delivryboy:
Fashola's budget I don't get, does Fashola as an individual have a budget in Nigeria? Must you drag his name into it to prove your weightless point. This is a ministry for goodness sake, budget goes through several different commitees including legislative bodies. Get your facts right people before posting sensational stories that frizzle out after few hours due to lack of substance.
Nnemuka:
Of what use is that minister of Finance sef? Asides budget phttp://www.nairaland.com/likesandsharesadding?
why have they decided to rubbish Fashola like this?
Making him look like a common thief...Tufia

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Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Nobody: 7:49pm On Feb 15, 2017
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Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Ajibel(m): 7:55pm On Feb 15, 2017
Love Machine:
Fashola may not be the one who insert it but he will sure get his cut from it after the illicit deal is accomplished.



1. It is not an illicit deal because there is a purpose for the fund only that it is not coming from the ministry.

2. Fashola was a governor in Lagos state and enjoys pensions and is currently a minister with a good pay so he's never in any way going to enrich himself via inflated contracts. With the positions he has found himself in, he is highly contented.
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Nobody: 7:55pm On Feb 15, 2017
Youngzedd:


It's because they don't have a share.

No be Naija we dey.
They are not in good terms with the president
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Nobody: 7:56pm On Feb 15, 2017
Ajibel:


1. It is not an illicit deal because there is a purpose for the fund only that it is not coming from the ministry.

2. Fashola was a governor in Lagos state and enjoys pensions and is currently a minister with a good pay so he's never in any way going to enrich himself via inflated contracts. With the positions he has found himself in, he is highly contented.
Human want is insatiable.

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Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by michaelwilli(m): 7:56pm On Feb 15, 2017
I don't believe this cos originally, fashola is smarter dan d senators, very well, so dat he couldn't explain something is a lie.

If e wan tiff, dem no fit catch am. He's brilliant dan dey are
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by peacemara54(m): 8:00pm On Feb 15, 2017
We sell pure, raw, unadulterated honey. We supply nationwide
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Ajibel(m): 8:02pm On Feb 15, 2017
Love Machine:
Human want is insatiable.

Are you saying if you are in Fashola's shoes, despite your success and achievements in office, you'll still involve yourself in scandals because "human wants are insatiable"?
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by AngelicBeing: 8:02pm On Feb 15, 2017
NextGovernor:
Will be very difficult for this country to stop corruption. The other day I met secondary school students saying they wanna become governor and ministers so they can build houses in Germany, US and other parts of the world. The other guy said he wanna be moving on 20 cars and power bike as escorts. The other guy said he will go and pack money abroad to come and paint the town red.

No one is talking about being a Professor
No one is talking about being an Engineer
No one is talking about being a Scientist/Doctor
No one is talking about being an Agriculturist
No one is talking about being an Entrepreneur

Corruption is even with the unborn child in Nigeria

I rest my case.
Kill corruption and you will see the glory of Nigeria will shine among-st the comity of nations, allow corruption to continue, Nigeria will continue to deteriorate till the end of the world, even if Nigeria prays every second of the day , the prayer will be meaningless, corruption is the DEMON & MONSTER that has crippled Nigeria sad.
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by jerusalem101: 8:05pm On Feb 15, 2017
Abeg make I hear word, the one Hon Jibrin revealed about the Dogora and the rest, what has the EFCC and the rest do?
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by nickxtra(m): 8:05pm On Feb 15, 2017
How can the Ministry of Finance input a project for a ministry that is not it's, even without the knowledge of the said Ministry? Nigerians I hail una o!

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Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by suyamasta(m): 8:07pm On Feb 15, 2017
Na real wa!
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Nobody: 8:08pm On Feb 15, 2017
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Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Laredojohn(m): 8:13pm On Feb 15, 2017
Ministry of Finance inserting a budget line into Works and housing, why not into theirs?? When did Ministry of Finance start building houses for ministry of housing, am sorry to say, the Minister for Works, power and housing denying he knows nothing about it, isn't the truth, because his Ministry's budget was never finalized without his input...anyways let's hear what finance will say when they get to explain their own part of the story

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Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by ayobamiakinrind(m): 8:16pm On Feb 15, 2017
Ajibel:


Bro, please understand how this stuffs works before crucifying Fashola here. The 2bn wasn't inserted by his ministry but the finance ministry so why bring Fashola and corruption into same sentence?
Let someone insert cocaine into your bag, then tell NDLEA that it's not yours. Some people are just so gullible, who's the principal accountant of the ministry? Who's the overseer?

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Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by ayobamiakinrind(m): 8:24pm On Feb 15, 2017
Ajibel:


1. It is not an illicit deal because there is a purpose for the fund only that it is not coming from the ministry.
See how you contradicted yourself. A deal not coming from APPROPRIATE CHANNEL isn't illicit? That's legal to you abi?

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Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by ndcide(m): 8:24pm On Feb 15, 2017
Sunky200:


no, this case na do me i do you.

the house of representathieves and sinators were exposed last year though very unfortunate that no one was made scape goat except for poor Jibrin, this year is the executives turn.

who says was against corruption will yield no result?

You people should stop this unnecessary bias.

The presidency was deeply involved in last year's budget padding. Some of us stated it at first, even before jubril increased it. Let's stop this subtle ways of shielding the executive and pointing on the legislative house. We are not helping them.
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Menakay(m): 8:29pm On Feb 15, 2017

Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Nobody: 8:52pm On Feb 15, 2017
refreshrate:
Technocrathief

Rocket scienthief

Budget padder...

Fixed

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Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Newbiee: 8:57pm On Feb 15, 2017
Ajibel:


When a ministry prepares it's budget, it is vetted by the Minister and then passed on to the Budget / Finance office who now prepares the final document which the president presents to NASS.

After the budget proposal has left a ministry, it can be tampered with by the Budget or Finance ministry. That's what happened in this case sir.
Thank you for enlightening the poor guy, some people like displaying their ignorance.

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Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Festy4u(m): 9:09pm On Feb 15, 2017
Government of the PADDED, by the PADDED and for the PADDED!
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by teebell999(m): 9:48pm On Feb 15, 2017
johnbuck81:
and d political EFCC would keep a blind eye and act dumb.

How did u mean? The minister just acknowledged he wasn't the one who put the project in the budget.
U just expect EFCC to just grab him and jail him for what has not been proben he actually did without any further investigation? BAD BELLE!!!
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by johnbuck81(m): 10:05pm On Feb 15, 2017
teebell999:


How did u mean? The minister just acknowledged he wasn't the one who put the project in the budget.
U just expect EFCC to just grab him and jail him for what has not been proben he actually did without any further investigation? BAD BELLE!!!
but the political EFCC would be quick to harass the so called buhari Enemies.. let him probe Saint Amaechi and Saint Fashola.And stop playing yourself with d foolish love u have for your illiterate president.
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by jahsson(m): 10:08pm On Feb 15, 2017
Ajibel:


When a ministry prepares it's budget, it is vetted by the Minister and then passed on to the Budget / Finance office who now prepares the final document which the president presents to NASS.

After the budget proposal has left a ministry, it can be tampered with by the Budget or Finance ministry. That's what happened in this case sir.

bros if u are correct .. Then the budget/finance minister should be up there defending the budget...

but on d contrary .. The Minister Fashola who is solely responsible for everything that happens in the ministry is there to defend the budget of his ministry...

now if anything was added.. Firstly he would've cross-checked to make sure his reputation is not tarnished....

also on another note... Probably he was told about the inclusion and refused it ... But as Nigerians ... Theyl tell him .. "ah .. Oga leave am... Dem nogo talk... If them talk .. We go defend am.."...

hence, the reason he said to call the minister of finance to come and defend the inclusion in the budget...

All in all ... There is no excuse for ignorance... I don't know how it got there is not an excuse when u endorsed the budget...

N2bn is not an oversight... A couple of thousands here and there, yes.... Not N2bn...

not saying the man is a thief oooo .. But ave always thought something was fishy about that man when i heard him say .. He doesn't sign cheques ...so he only deals with cash abi...??...

Funny thing was everybody just took it lightly ..laughed over it n that was the end of the story...

if things continue like dis.. "flimsy oversights"... It is our children that will suffer...

as u see them sooo... These ppl u r defending ave already laid up riches for generations to come.... They don't care about the welfare of the people...

okay oooo... #wearewatching...

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Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by able20(m): 10:10pm On Feb 15, 2017
Fashola is learning from Tinubu.
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by nkemjacob2(m): 10:16pm On Feb 15, 2017
had it been our senators was dis active from the time part.. oh! Nigeria will have been a better place...
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Satex(m): 10:47pm On Feb 15, 2017
Ajibel:


When a ministry prepares it's budget, it is vetted by the Minister and then passed on to the Budget / Finance office who now prepares the final document which the president presents to NASS.

After the budget proposal has left a ministry, it can be tampered with by the Budget or Finance ministry. That's what happened in this case sir.
Thanks for the explanation. Too many kids on NL these days. Rushing to post comments without taking time to read, understand, and digest stuffs. And without adequate knowledge of issues. Nevertheless, am not in support of any corrupt practice.
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Ajibel(m): 11:11pm On Feb 15, 2017
jahsson:


bros if u are correct .. Then the budget/finance minister should be up there defending the budget...

but on d contrary .. The Minister Fashola who is solely responsible for everything that happens in the ministry is there to defend the budget of his ministry...

now if anything was added.. Firstly he would've cross-checked to make sure his reputation is not tarnished....

also on another note... Probably he was told about the inclusion and refused it ... But as Nigerians ... Theyl tell him .. "ah .. Oga leave am... Dem nogo talk... If them talk .. We go defend am.."...

hence, the reason he said to call the minister of finance to come and defend the inclusion in the budget...

All in all ... There is no excuse for ignorance... I don't know how it got there is not an excuse when u endorsed the budget...

N2bn is not an oversight... A couple of thousands here and there, yes.... Not N2bn...

not saying the man is a thief oooo .. But ave always thought something was fishy about that man when i heard him say .. He doesn't sign cheques ...so he only deals with cash abi...??...

Funny thing was everybody just took it lightly ..laughed over it n that was the end of the story...

if things continue like dis.. "flimsy oversights"... It is our children that will suffer...

as u see them sooo... These ppl u r defending ave already laid up riches for generations to come.... They don't care about the welfare of the people...

okay oooo... #wearewatching...




The budget/ finance minister isn't there to defend the budget because it is the budget of Fashola's ministry and he is the one to be there to defend it.

Here is what you dont understand sir from what I learnt about budget preparations, the Minister in this case prepares his ministries budget, goes through it and if satisfied then submits it to the Budget ministry for onward preparations. After the minister has submitted the budget proposal of his ministry, it wont be returned to him to do any further cross-check if anything was added at the budget office or finance ministry therefore, he wont be able to defend whatever has been inserted because the insertions are not there for him to cross-check.

Personally, I would wonder why they didnt communicate with him about the insertions because from the article, it was obvious Fashola wasnt aware of what the line item is about.

Bro, one question for you. When Fashola says he doesnt sign cheques, has anyone even from the opposition come out to say he is lying? Have you ever worked in the government to know how contracts are awarded and who signs cheques?

Fashola is the face of APC. Dont you think PDP would have capitalised on that statement to rubbish him. Let's not argue on what we dont know about. It is possible, he doesnt sign cheques. That's not the issue here though.

It is my responsibility to know how these thigns wrok because I may find myself there or you may or any of your relative. So it's better to understand before criticising sir.

I hope I have done justice to your comments.
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by refreshrate: 11:14pm On Feb 15, 2017
Ajibel:


1. It is not an illicit deal because there is a purpose for the fund only that it is not coming from the ministry.

2. Fashola was a governor in Lagos state and enjoys pensions and is currently a minister with a good pay so he's never in any way going to enrich himself via inflated contracts. With the positions he has found himself in, he is highly contented.

Yes it's true

Even the 78 million for website the other time no be him do am

Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by Ajibel(m): 11:16pm On Feb 15, 2017
allrightsir:




Please stop making excuses for mediocrity.

You submit a document to the budget office. You KNOW that even in a non fraudulent exercise, in the normal course of business the Budget office WILL work on your submission...that's their job. So won't you check to make sure the budget you are defending is the budget you submitted? How much more after the padding fiasco of the last budget.


I'm sorry we need to stop making excuses or we will never get anywhere as a country. Fashola is a Lawyer, he relies on associates to do the dirty work. If Fashola employed a lawyer who didn't check his work properly before going to court leading to embarrassment at the court, that lawyer will be sacked!!! I dont think he became a SAN by not being thorough or employing people who are not thorough. What is the benefit of having people with private sector experience in govt if they get to govt and behave like anything goes sloppy civil servants? He didn't have to check it himself, he could have detailed someone he trusts to go over what he submitted and what was sent to the National Assembly before embarrassing himself.


If you want to defend (or are ok with) mediocrity, feel free it's your perogative...but don't complain that nothing works in your country. The new administration already had an embarrassing episode with padding, your govt came to pwer on the mantra of sweeping out corruption, it behoves him to check what he submitted is what he is defending before going to the NA to embarrass himself.


Let me make it clear i am not accusing him of sharp practice, ,my charge is sloppyness

You see sir, it is very easy to criticise because it cost less to criticise than make research on how things are done. It is obvious most of us dont know how budget processes works and I would blame the FG for not educating the masses that's why most of us argue and criticise out of ignorance.

I have already explained how it works and what might have led Fashola to be unaware of the insertion. But well, you can choose to hold onto your criticisms because it's more convenient for you to.

Thank you sir.
Re: Budget Padding: Senate Uncovers N2bn Inserted Into Fashola's Proposal by youngjoy(f): 11:16pm On Feb 15, 2017
useless politicians.. i hate dis men

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