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Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by CatfishBilly: 9:42am On Feb 15, 2017 |
larrybee2017:Why can't Christians just make their point without issuing threats? Beats me, really. 3 Likes |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by hahn(m): 9:51am On Feb 15, 2017 |
raph101: Google Pascal's wager |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by drnoel: 10:03am On Feb 15, 2017 |
DebbieLaw: Madam, its not about screaming or shouting. Ur intention to shout people down is very flawed and should not be so. Allow them speak their minds and let people rob minds together. I have said it before, any person who has his faith shaken by experiences doctors share never really had any faith in the first place. Swallow that one and got sit on the side and listen. Besides Lazarus you mentioned and that story in the bible has a perfect explanation scientifically. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by drnoel: 10:04am On Feb 15, 2017 |
CatfishBilly: I find that detestable. Bear in mind though, I am also a Christian |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by drnoel: 10:12am On Feb 15, 2017 |
busuyi44: Very true but does one take it as it comes or question it. That's what u have not answered and that's the ropic of discussion |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Fiverrgig(m): 12:15pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
I have been reading this since page 1 and my conclusion is: * Some problems are meant to be irrespective of whoever tries to nullify it through prayers. * Some people pray then go back to sin and this is a common obstruction to prayers....even doubt cancels prayer. * I believe there's God but sometimes I doubt if he gives a Bleep about some issues. Just like a teacher who is being disturbed by pupils with one complaint or another... U notice that the teacher doesn't try to resolve all issues... They pretend to be deaf to some complaints issued by the pupils. * Faith and prayer needs action in order to work out. Taking Medication and praying doesn't stop either from working if you apply both at the same moment. Example I know a pastor who has lived in a single room for 20+ years now, everyday he prays for a house but yet makes no effort to even buy a land. Assuming he has bought a land and started something no matter how little, God may decide to intervene in his life... Unfortunately, the power of faith and prayer is being misused. * Finally, if there is no God.... Go to Isreal to verify your fact. I believe there is God but does he give a Bleep? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by CatfishBilly: 12:40pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
Fiverrgig:You are a deist, my friend |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Fiverrgig(m): 12:43pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
CatfishBilly:What's a deist? |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by CatfishBilly: 12:49pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
Fiverrgig:Someone who believes there's a God but he doesn't give a Bleep about us and doesn't interfere in our lives and existence. 1 Like |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by vislabraye(m): 12:51pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
tohpahz: Who did it happen to ? . U should speak more about what you've heard or encountered. |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by tohpahz(f): 1:23pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
vislabraye:Wat are u saying. I nursed this patient 1 Like |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 2:40pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
Sexina851: Pls respond properly to my post. U said people's death hasto do with their personal life.And I asked for u think people personal life makes them deserve death? If so do u also think so of ur late mum? Ur response to my question is completely off. I wanna know what u think. This is ur post below
What was it about ur mums personal life that made u understand why she should die? Forgive me if this sounds offensive but I am just digging deep into what u said with ur own mouth. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by vislabraye(m): 4:19pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
tohpahz: He went to be with the Lord. We don't kniw better than God. Afterall, I have witnessed a miraculous healing. 2 Likes |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by Nobody: 5:20pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
urheme: What happened in the book of John that correlates to the thing that you posted. Give the specific bible verse and chapter. I'm ready to school some in the art of Hermenutics today |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by oaroloye(m): 6:16pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
SHALOM! CatfishBilly: FOR PRAYER TO BE EFFECTIVE, THE PERSONS PRAYING MUST BE HOLY- OR, AT THE VERY LEAST, RIGHTEOUS. FILTHY and UNJUST persons cannot Pray Effectively. That is what you have been seeing. |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by CatfishBilly: 6:29pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
Next case We had to manage a woman with hemorrhagic stroke (A blood vessel ruptured in her brain which just kept on bleeding). Nigeria has a very poor record when it comes to managing patients with this kind of stroke. I lost my aunt to a hemorrhagic stroke. She was in a coma and different cadres of Pastors and Evangelists and brethren all came in to pray for her, it was like a revolving door. As one group was leaving, another group was taking their place. It happened like that till she died. In spite of all the prayers by the different men of God. 1 Like |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by mack111(m): 6:34pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
larrybee2017:you have derailed from my questions. I'd ask again, Baal? Rods turned to snake? Sea dividing? Water to wine? Walking on sea? Few loaves of bread and fish? Does these ring a bell? Are these not shows? I didn't tell you I don't believe, I just asked some questions. The problem I have is that religion is man made and not of the creator, whatever the name of the creator is. The Bible is a stark contrast of how a loving creator should be, from human perspective. At what age were you indoctrinated? 1 Like |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 6:43pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
oaroloye: Otherwise ur God leaves the person to die? |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by akintom(m): 7:08pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
The buy-bull
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Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by BodyKiss(m): 8:09pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
avaa: Legit reason, @emboldened Lol |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by tohpahz(f): 10:26pm On Feb 15, 2017 |
vislabraye:Of course. what y'all say. Illogical!! |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by UyiIredia(m): 12:34am On Feb 16, 2017 |
CatfishBilly: @ bold: True talk. I lost my father to a hemorrhagic stroke too. |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by urheme: 10:37am On Feb 16, 2017 |
CatfishBilly: Dr, you post as if death is a very horrible thing..... i am not expecting this from a doctor at all........this is the environment where you work and death should not be an unusual or strange thing to you........you have practically breach the ethics of your profession if you don,t know.....a doctor like you should be sanctioned if not that you are unknown. two important time in a man's life....the day he is born and the day he dies........something must kill man.....some die before you or after you....and life goes on...... Divine healing or not...everybody must die.......i was healed does not mean.... i will never die again.......my time will come and yours will come too, treatment or no treatment,......from your experience...even you as a doctor do not even possess the power to save those people from the hand of death.......some persons who are not Christians must have died in your hand too while trying to save them...... prayer or no prayer...once your time is up.....you go.......Christians should live prepared at all time......no Christian should be hoping to stay in this world for ever....... Dr, those dead people you talked about are better off than you.....this is what scripture says.....and better still is the one unborn. Every profession has its challenge......there is a duty of secrecy that we owned our clients...dead or alive.......i listen and i hear a lot in my own profession.......i separate it from religion.......the encounter i have with my clients will never be a subject for discussion any where. 1 Like |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by felixomor: 10:41am On Feb 16, 2017 |
urheme: Tell Him. CatfishBilly, please hope u read this. Get wise. |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by CatfishBilly: 10:57am On Feb 16, 2017 |
urheme:Please, show me what rule I broke in the medical ethics handbook and I'll personally go and submit myself to mdcn for sanctions. Death is a horrible thing. I don't know how you view it, but I consider it a failure if my patient dies, some people are just passionate about human lives and I happen to be one of them, so, yea, death is bleeping horrible urheme:It's thinking like this that breeds suicide bombers, really. If we are better of dead, why did God bother raising people from the dead or healing the sick? urheme:This secrecy that you keep on going on and on about, Did I mention any names? Did I give locations? Did I mention what year? If you don't know anything about patient privacy, ask me, I'll be glad to explain. 6 Likes |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by CatfishBilly: 11:00am On Feb 16, 2017 |
felixomor:You've cleared my doubt, you're not a medic. Impersonating a medic is punishable under the Penal code of Nigeria, Prison term inclusive. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by felixomor: 11:10am On Feb 16, 2017 |
CatfishBilly: Dont worry. You are only lucky u r writing under a hidden name. These write ups could have been used against u. Then we would have known who the real medic is. |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by urheme: 11:13am On Feb 16, 2017 |
CatfishBilly: I am not here to argue with you......your clients died and so you have failed . do you have the power to keep alive .. you are thinking yes just because you read medicine.... your patient prayed...had faith and they died..." this death means gain for them" and it means a horrible thing to you. " as if na you die" If you bring religious critisms in to your work you will continue to fail in this profession....what i sense in your thread is blaming God for your client's death and for your failures. my friend go and rethink whether you want to remain in this profession or not. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by urheme: 11:25am On Feb 16, 2017 |
felixomor: No mind am, the guy dey write as if he no use dead body take study medicine.....when he was butchering some during his practicals, he did not know that they were people......perhaps..He blamed God then for their death...and still compassionately diced into it......now he has come to spill stories of the dead . I pray the power of God Locates him soon. 1 Like |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by felixomor: 11:28am On Feb 16, 2017 |
urheme: Most likely he is one of the young doctors still dancing ajasco with his mbbs certificate, intoxicated with small knowledge.... 1 Like |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by frank317: 11:30am On Feb 16, 2017 |
urheme: What's ur point? Why are u here and there with no point. U just accused the op of breaking medical ethics, just because he is trying to show how prayer did not work for his patients. That was a baseless accusation. If u think death is a wonderful thing, u can go and kill urself already and stop preaching that death is a wonderful thing when ur likes are the ones coming to his professional house to pray for life. Death is a terrible thing, that's why he is concerned that even prayer to the almighty creator seems useless to it. The op feels bad when a patient in his care dies, but how does ur God who has promised to much feel. U now want to preach to us that death is a wonderful thing. What kind of skewed thinking is this? Pls if u have nothing to say shut up. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Medical Doctors, Atheism and Daily Evidence of Failed Prayers. by urheme: 11:43am On Feb 16, 2017 |
felixomor: I wanted to say so .....it is well my brother......so much attacks on Christians....this is what Hond was trying to kick against. even catfish has come to to ridicule Christians who died......does it mean that people of other religion don,t die .. make you help me ask am 1 Like |
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