Industrialists dumped potent pollutants into
Atlantic bays in the 1950s and 1960s, killing all kinds of fish. Even today, few fish brave those waters. A team of scientists led by Andrew Whitehead of University of California, Davis recently sequenced and analyzed the genomes of almost 400 Atlantic killifish to try to find out how these fish survive the polluted waters while other kinds don’t. They found good, scientific answers but framed them in wildly unscientific terms.
The researchers discovered that killifish survive by using their elaborate array of genes, including some that help them manage poisons. Like having Swiss army knives instead of flint knives,
these fishes’ genetic gizmos enable them to solve more environmental challenges than other fish can handle. UC Davis News gave this finding a strong evolutionary spin:
“While environmental change is outpacing the
rate of evolution for many other species,
Atlantic killifish living in four polluted East
Coast estuaries turn out to be remarkably
resilient.”
“The more genetic diversity, the faster evolution can act.” “Most species we care about preserving probably can’t adapt to these rapid changes because they don’t have the high levels of genetic variation that allow them to evolve quickly.”
“At the genetic level, the tolerant populations
evolved in highly similar ways.”
“This study shows that different populations of
Atlantic killifish exposed to toxic pollution
evolve tolerance to that pollution through
changes in one molecular pathway.”
Finally, the genomes offered clues that suggest
“these fish already carried the genetic variation
that allowed them to adapt before the sites were polluted.”1
But if the fish already possessed, in the
beginning, the genetic variation required for them to cope with toxic pollution, then what does their use of those pre-existing genetic tools have to do with evolution?
An evolution that supposedly transformed fish
into philosophers should cause significant
change.2 But these fish didn’t change. They were killifish before and after encountering pollution.
They didn’t even acquire new or broken genes.
These fish used absolutely no evolution to
pioneer polluted waterways—they simply used
their onboard genes.
If one man can build a stick hut five times faster using a Swiss army knife than another man can using his sharp-edged rock, who in their right mind would say that he “evolved” more quickly?
Evolution had nothing to do with the faster hut— it was all about the tools.
Since killifish genes made the difference, the
originator of those genes deserves the credit.
Where did those genes come from? No scientist witnessed or measured their origins, but the genes reveal enough information for rational thinkers to clearly see that the Creator is the answer. The reasoning goes like this:
1. Killifish genetic information anticipates and
meets future environmental challenges.
2. All information systems that can anticipate
and meet future challenges arise from
intelligent people who can imagine and
anticipate new scenarios.
3. Therefore, killifish genetic information arose from an intelligent, imaginative person.
Evolution’s unthinking natural processes invoke no intelligence and thus fail to meet this minimum requirement for genetic toolkit origins.
The Creator revealed in the Bible, on the other
hand, has an infinite intelligence—He warrants
the most consideration. Jesus, “through whom
also He made the worlds,”3 made these fish and their genes. He who can rescue humanity from spiritual pollution deserves all the credit for providing Atlantic killifish with genetic solutions to physical pollution.


This is Fishes just exposed the gaint Scam called Evolution.

www.icr.org/article/9804

Yall are dumb the post is scattered no proper refrences just dumb neegah links

freakthingz:
Yall are dumb the post is scattered no proper refrences just dumb neegah links

I understand it disappointed your fantasy.

blueAgent:




I understand it disappointed your fantasy.

Lol.
Exactly.

blueAgent:

 Industrialists dumped potent pollutants into
Atlantic bays in the 1950s and 1960s, killing all kinds of fish. Even today, few fish brave those waters. A team of scientists led by Andrew Whitehead of University of California, Davis recently sequenced and analyzed the genomes of almost 400 Atlantic killifish to try to find out how these fish survive the polluted waters while other kinds don’t. They found good, scientific answers but framed them in wildly unscientific terms.
The researchers discovered that killifish survive by using their elaborate array of genes, including some that help them manage poisons. Like having Swiss army knives instead of flint knives,
these fishes’ genetic gizmos enable them to solve more environmental challenges than other fish can handle. UC Davis News gave this finding a strong evolutionary spin:
“While environmental change is outpacing the
rate of evolution for many other species,
Atlantic killifish living in four polluted East
Coast estuaries turn out to be remarkably
resilient.”
“The more genetic diversity, the faster evolution can act.” “Most species we care about preserving probably can’t adapt to these rapid changes because they don’t have the high levels of genetic variation that allow them to evolve quickly.”
“At the genetic level, the tolerant populations
evolved in highly similar ways.”
“This study shows that different populations of
Atlantic killifish exposed to toxic pollution
evolve tolerance to that pollution through
changes in one molecular pathway.”
Finally, the genomes offered clues that suggest
“these fish already carried the genetic variation
that allowed them to adapt before the sites were polluted.”1
But if the fish already possessed, in the
beginning, the genetic variation required for them to cope with toxic pollution, then what does their use of those pre-existing genetic tools have to do with evolution?
An evolution that supposedly transformed fish
into philosophers should cause significant
change.2 But these fish didn’t change. They were killifish before and after encountering pollution.
They didn’t even acquire new or broken genes.
These fish used absolutely no evolution to
pioneer polluted waterways—they simply used
their onboard genes.
If one man can build a stick hut five times faster using a Swiss army knife than another man can using his sharp-edged rock, who in their right mind would say that he “evolved” more quickly?
Evolution had nothing to do with the faster hut— it was all about the tools.
Since killifish genes made the difference, the
originator of those genes deserves the credit.
Where did those genes come from? No scientist witnessed or measured their origins, but the genes reveal enough information for rational thinkers to clearly see that the Creator is the answer. The reasoning goes like this:
1. Killifish genetic information anticipates and
meets future environmental challenges.
2. All information systems that can anticipate
and meet future challenges arise from
intelligent people who can imagine and
anticipate new scenarios.
3. Therefore, killifish genetic information arose from an intelligent, imaginative person.
Evolution’s unthinking natural processes invoke no intelligence and thus fail to meet this minimum requirement for genetic toolkit origins.
The Creator revealed in the Bible, on the other
hand, has an infinite intelligence—He warrants
the most consideration. Jesus, “through whom
also He made the worlds,”3 made these fish and their genes. He who can rescue humanity from spiritual pollution deserves all the credit for providing Atlantic killifish with genetic solutions to physical pollution.


This is Fishes just exposed the gaint Scam called Evolution.

www.icr.org/article/9804

You understood nothing

The fishes did not formerly possess the ability to survive in such polluted waters.
The research states that their high genetic variation, enabled them to adapt quicker to the toxins.
Its basically like this, the more genetic variation possessed by a specie, the more it will be resistant to a host of challenges. If a deadly disease or toxin for that matter affects the fishes, they might not all die seeing as their genes are very diverse and some will be more immune than others, those that are immune will survive and pass their genes on to offsprings and dominate.
That was what the research said happen.
Same way bacteria and weed are hard to kill because they are genetically diverse.
Read before posting

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/news/110301_pcbresistantcod

Lennycool:

You understood nothing

The fishes did not formerly possess the ability to survive in such polluted waters.
The research states that their high genetic variation, enabled them to adapt quicker to the toxins.
Its basically like this, the more genetic variation possessed by a specie, the more it will be resistant to a host of challenges. If a deadly disease or toxin for that matter affects the fishes, they might not all die seeing as their genes are very diverse and some will be more immune than others, those that are immune will survive and pass their genes on to offsprings and dominate.
That was what the research said happen.
Same way bacteria and weed are hard to kill because they are genetically diverse.
Read before posting

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/news/110301_pcbresistantcod

You see why people don't take Atheists serious, simple comprehension is still diffcult for you to understand.

The question is the highly genetic variation of Killfish was it designed into them or it Evolued?

blueAgent:






You see why people don't take Atheists serious, simple comprehension is still diffcult for you to understand.

The question is the highly genetic variation of Killfish was it designed into them or it Evolued?

Genetic variation is simply biological diversity, and yes it can be said to have evolved. Since each of the organisms had to adapt differently to its surrounding.
Just like we have diverse humans today.

Lennycool:

Genetic variation is simply biological diversity, and yes it can be said to have evolved. Since each of the organisms had to adapt differently to its surrounding.
Just like we have diverse humans today.

I guess you don't read this part.

Finally, the genomes offered clues that suggest
“these fish already carried the genetic variation
that allowed them to adapt before the sites were polluted.”But if the fish already possessed, in the beginning, the genetic variation required for them to cope with toxic pollution, then what does their use of those pre-existing genetic tools have to do with evolution?

Secondly why did the killfish not evolue to another organism? it was a killfish before and after the pollution.

blueAgent:





I guess you don't read this part.

Finally, the genomes offered clues that suggest
“these fish already carried the genetic variation
that allowed them to adapt before the sites were polluted.”But if the fish already possessed, in the beginning, the genetic variation required for them to cope with toxic pollution, then what does their use of those pre-existing genetic tools have to do with evolution?

Secondly why did the killfish not evolue to another organism? it was a killfish before and after the pollution.

Your answer is in the bolded.
They were already genetically diverse, hence natural selection chose those most suited to survive.
You're actually supporting evolution.

Lennycool:

Your answer is in the bolded.
They were already genetically diverse, hence natural selection chose those most suited to survive.
You're actually supporting evolution.

You keep shooting yourself on the foot.
They are Diverse by chance or design?

blueAgent:




You keep shooting yourself on the foot.
They are Diverse by chance or design?

Diverse by continuously evolving.
Evolution is the answer.

Lennycool:

Diverse by continuously evolving.
Evolution is the answer.

You are not serious.Scientist discovered that the killfish that has never been in polluted waters was the same as those in polluted waters. so how did they Evolue in the absent of polluted waters and still remained a killfish like others who had never been in polluted waters?

Typical example of Natural Selection - Lennycool i don always argue with folks like this, the problem is not if they agree with evolution but rather if they understand it.

if this bro understood "evolution" he wouldn't have posted this in an attempt to debunk it - cus this is just another typical example of evolution at work, natural selection more so.

blueAgent:




You are not serious.Scientist discovered that the killfish that has never been in polluted waters was the same as those in polluted waters. so how did they Evolue in the absent of polluted waters and still remained a killfish like others who had never been in polluted waters?

In ancient China for example during a war between two chinese dynasties, the battle was bloody and hard but the attacking army won. a little boy of no more than 9 years old was the king, instead of risk being captureed alive, he and his mother drowned in the sea and died.

the remaining people from the conquered kingdom secretly held festivals every year in commemoration of their brave warriors who died defending them and the courageous boy king.

Fishing was their primary occupation being a city with large mass of water body around - in this water, there's a particular species of crab with patterns on their back and this pattern looks like the face of a human twisted and angry like that of a soldier.

these villagers believed that these crabs were the reincarnation of their dead soldiers and that was the reason their faces appeared on it as a pattern and out of respect and reverence to the bravery of these dead soldiers the fishermen didnt eat these crabs.

- whenever they caught such a crab, it was thrown back respectfully into the water
- if they caught a crab with a plain back, it was kept and ultimately eaten.

This led to only one result, crabs with patterns survived and thrived while ones without patterns continually diminished.. this is selection in action, an evolutionary mechanism.

The patterns on this crabs had nothing to do with the dead soldiers or the boy king, these crabs had the pattern for a long time before that event but that one feature aided their survival.

selection in evolutionary terms means that in the course of a given circumstance or condition, organisms or species with the best-suited features for such conditions thrive and survive, the much less fortunate ones die off.

these features are not evolved immediately, there have been accumulated subtly through the diverse evolutionary journey of each species.

so these fishes did not swim past evolution, they rather confirms it, you are seeing a classical clear example of natural selection. . The diversity in their genetic build up was more adapted to toxic water than the rest of those fishes and that is why they survived and thrived while others perished.

in a different condition, some other fish species may have the upper hand in terms of adaptive abilities and thus survive and continue..... This is Natural selection, a tool of evolution.

I implore you to please try read up evolution, try and understand it cus this up there is laughable. you only quickly copied and posted it with the mindset that it refuted evolution because you had not the slightest idea of what evolution is because if you did, you wouldn't have posted this.

I think trying to explain evolution to an ignorant mind who doesnt know he/she is ignorant is a pure waste of time...my opinion though

donnffd:
I think trying to explain evolution to an ignorant mind who doesnt know he/she is ignorant is a pure waste of time...my opinion though

HaHaHa I laugh at you MR Evolution.

Like i said before the killfish did not Evolue or develop the ability to resist the pollutant. rather it had that ability already wheather it encountered polllutants or not.

With all the global warming and pollutants why has all the Birds and man not Evolued?

blueAgent:






HaHaHa I laugh at you MR Evolution.

Like i said before the killfish did not Evolue or develop the ability to resist the pollutant. rather it had that ability already wheather it encountered polllutants or not.

With all the global warming and pollutants why has all the Birds and man not Evolued?

Good question.
Especially considering the fact that DNA of man has remained thesame throughout human History.
By Now our DNA should have been different from that of the earlymen.
And yet they will tell you, you dont need faith to believe in evolution.

Mscheww

johnydon22:
Typical example of Natural Selection - Lennycool i don always argue with folks like this, the problem is not if they agree with evolution but rather if they understand it.

if this bro understood "evolution" he wouldn't have posted this in an attempt to debunk it - cus this is just another typical example of evolution at work, natural selection more so.

This is the definition of Evolution.

Evolution is change in the heritable
characteristics of biological populations over
successive generations. Evolutionary
processes give rise to biodiversity at every level of biological organisation, including the levels of species, individual organisms, and molecules.

The Question is where did the Heritable characteristics come from? where this organisms designed with this traits or they also Evolued to have this traits.

Remember your Evolution is telling us about how the traits in organisms transformed not how the intial triats came into existence.

johnydon22:
Typical example of Natural Selection - Lennycool i don always argue with folks like this, the problem is not if they agree with evolution but rather if they understand it.

if this bro understood "evolution" he wouldn't have posted this in an attempt to debunk it - cus this is just another typical example of evolution at work, natural selection more so.

Sometimes I don't know what makes me even try.
This dude is here arguing with research carried out by one of the most prestigious university in the world and he doesn't even understand what evolution is.

Lennycool:

Sometimes I don't know what makes me even try.
This dude is here arguing with research carried out by one of the most prestigious university in the world and he doesn't even understand what evolution is.

What makes you try is because your conscience knows its a lie.
Simple

blueAgent:





This is the definition of Evolution.

Evolution is change in the heritable
characteristics of biological populations over
successive generations. Evolutionary
processes give rise to biodiversity at every level of biological organisation, including the levels of species, individual organisms, and molecules.

The Question is where did the Heritable characteristics come from? where this organisms designed with this traits or they also Evolued to have this traits.

Remember your Evolution is telling us about how the traits in organisms transformed not how the intial triats came into existence.

felixomor:


Good question.
Especially considering the fact that DNA of man has remained thesame throughout human History.
By Now our DNA should have been different from that of the earlymen.
And yet they will tell you, you dont need faith to believe in evolution.

Mscheww

felixomor:


What makes you try is because your conscience knows its a lie.
Simple

blueAgent:






HaHaHa I laugh at you MR Evolution.

Like i said before the killfish did not Evolue or develop the ability to resist the pollutant. rather it had that ability already wheather it encountered polllutants or not.

With all the global warming and pollutants why has all the Birds and man not Evolued?

smh...k

felixomor:


What makes you try is because your conscience knows its a lie.
Simple

Take it up with UC Berkeley then. I'm sure the scientist there would love to know how their research is fake.

johnydon22:


In ancient China for example during a war between two chinese dynasties, the battle was bloody and hard but the attacking army won. a little boy of no more than 9 years old was the king, instead of risk being captureed alive, he and his mother drowned in the sea and died.

the remaining people from the conquered kingdom secretly held festivals every year in commemoration of their brave warriors who died defending them and the courageous boy king.

Fishing was their primary occupation being a city with large mass of water body around - in this water, there's a particular species of crab with patterns on their back and this pattern looks like the face of a human twisted and angry like that of a soldier.

these villagers believed that these crabs were the reincarnation of their dead soldiers and that was the reason their faces appeared on it as a pattern and out of respect and reverence to the bravery of these dead soldiers the fishermen didnt eat these crabs.

- whenever they caught such a crab, it was thrown back respectfully into the water
- if they caught a crab with a plain back, it was kept and ultimately eaten.

This led to only one result, crabs with patterns survived and thrived while ones without patterns continually diminished.. this is selection in action, an evolutionary mechanism.

The patterns on this crabs had nothing to do with the dead soldiers or the boy king, these crabs had the pattern for a long time before that event but that one feature aided their survival.

selection in evolutionary terms means that in the course of a given circumstance or condition, organisms or species with the best-suited features for such conditions thrive and survive, the much less fortunate ones die off.

these features are not evolved immediately, there have been accumulated subtly through the diverse evolutionary journey of each species.

so these fishes did not swim past evolution, they rather confirms it, you are seeing a classical clear example of natural selection. . The diversity in their genetic build up was more adapted to toxic water than the rest of those fishes and that is why they survived and thrived while others perished.

in a different condition, some other fish species may have the upper hand in terms of adaptive abilities and thus survive and continue..... This is Natural selection, a tool of evolution.

I implore you to please try read up evolution, try and understand it cus this up there is laughable. you only quickly copied and posted it with the mindset that it refuted evolution because you had not the slightest idea of what evolution is because if you did, you wouldn't have posted this.

See as you just suffer yourself finish.
Felixomor will only glance, shrug and then return back to blissful ignorance.

felixomor:


Good question.
Especially considering the fact that DNA of man has remained thesame throughout human History.
By Now our DNA should have been different from that of the earlymen.
And yet they will tell you, you dont need faith to believe in evolution.

Mscheww

Smh
Read my post on archeological findings of ancient human remains.
Read a book human.

Lennycool:

Smh
Read my post on archeological findings of ancient human remains.
Read a book human.

Guy.
Stop this rant.

U already called me ignorant without anawering a simple question.
Yet u want me to go and read your post we have already talked over before.

Lennycool:

Your answer is in the bolded.
They were already genetically diverse, hence natural selection chose those most suited to survive.
You're actually supporting evolution.

lmao
The dude didn't even know
When I tell you these people don't understand what they want to refute

felixomor:


Good question.
Especially considering the fact that DNA of man has remained thesame throughout human History.
By Now our DNA should have been different from that of the earlymen.
And yet they will tell you, you dont need faith to believe in evolution.

Mscheww

On point Bro. Our DNA is like a computer program that determines how a system operates. the question is who installed that program(DNA). that's that ability for this organism to adept?

This dudes think they are talking to a Fool.

Is like someone telling me how a milk in a Jar got Sour without telling me how it got into the Jar in the first place.

johnydon22:


In ancient China for example during a war between two chinese dynasties, the battle was bloody and hard but the attacking army won. a little boy of no more than 9 years old was the king, instead of risk being captureed alive, he and his mother drowned in the sea and died.

the remaining people from the conquered kingdom secretly held festivals every year in commemoration of their brave warriors who died defending them and the courageous boy king.

Fishing was their primary occupation being a city with large mass of water body around - in this water, there's a particular species of crab with patterns on their back and this pattern looks like the face of a human twisted and angry like that of a soldier.

these villagers believed that these crabs were the reincarnation of their dead soldiers and that was the reason their faces appeared on it as a pattern and out of respect and reverence to the bravery of these dead soldiers the fishermen didnt eat these crabs.

- whenever they caught such a crab, it was thrown back respectfully into the water
- if they caught a crab with a plain back, it was kept and ultimately eaten.

This led to only one result, crabs with patterns survived and thrived while ones without patterns continually diminished.. this is selection in action, an evolutionary mechanism.

The patterns on this crabs had nothing to do with the dead soldiers or the boy king, these crabs had the pattern for a long time before that event but that one feature aided their survival.

selection in evolutionary terms means that in the course of a given circumstance or condition, organisms or species with the best-suited features for such conditions thrive and survive, the much less fortunate ones die off.

these features are not evolved immediately, there have been accumulated subtly through the diverse evolutionary journey of each species.

so these fishes did not swim past evolution, they rather confirms it, you are seeing a classical clear example of natural selection. . The diversity in their genetic build up was more adapted to toxic water than the rest of those fishes and that is why they survived and thrived while others perished.

in a different condition, some other fish species may have the upper hand in terms of adaptive abilities and thus survive and continue..... This is Natural selection, a tool of evolution.

I implore you to please try read up evolution, try and understand it cus this up there is laughable. you only quickly copied and posted it with the mindset that it refuted evolution because you had not the slightest idea of what evolution is because if you did, you wouldn't have posted this.

This is mere story. wrong comparism.

Lennycool:

Take it up with UC Berkeley then. I'm sure the scientist there would love to know how their research is fake.

Which came first, proteins or DNA
(Revelation 4:11) ? For evolutionists, the
chicken or egg dilemma goes even deeper.
Chickens consist of proteins. The code for
each protein is contained in the DNA/RNA
system. However, proteins are required in
order to manufacture DNA. So which came
first: proteins or DNA? The ONLY explanation
is that they were created together.

Lennycool:

Sometimes I don't know what makes me even try.
This dude is here arguing with research carried out by one of the most prestigious university in the world and he doesn't even understand what evolution is.

My article was written and posted on a Science post by worldclass Scientists.